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1 year ago

in McCain Jokes About Beating His Wife on Jack and Jill Politics
It would explain the vacuous look Cindy has when she's in public. She's probably pill-popping Xanax in order to dull her senses.


We'll know for sure when McCain, in an attempt to be "hip" starts sporting "wife-beater" shirts under his suits.



Seriously, has anyone seen Cindy in clothing that bares parts of her body that would indicate McCain's using her as a punching bag? I have yet to see her in something like that purple dress Michelle Obama rocked, and I often wonder, cause the first indication of abuse is the clothing a person wears to cover up bruises and injuries.



McCain did call ole girl the "C" word on the "Straight-Talk Express" Bus earlier this year.

1 year ago

in Who Needs the Clintons? on Jack and Jill Politics
I disagree. His winning the nomination proved effectively that he doesn't need Hillary; only her supporters. And many of them were turning towards him, save for the more rabid ones like Gerry the Klanswoman, when Hillary had to be forced from the stage.


Neither one had any real track record on anything; in fact, before they both decided to run, Obama and Clinton's Senate voting records were identical.



I say the shoe is on the other foot, and I'm not in Obama's camp when I say that, either.

1 year ago

in "I Bit My Tongue" on Jack and Jill Politics
Here's what should have been said in that meeting:


"I have held my tongue, let all of y'all diss me, and haven't said a word. Here's the deal; homegirl needs to mend the fences since she and her man tore them down. Now, either get out of my face before I get in that ass..."

1 year ago

in The Supreme Court Upholds the Second Amendment on Jack and Jill Politics
The ones who don't want the background checks are probably the ones who don't need to have a gun in their hands.

1 year ago

in The Obamas Are NOT Elite - And, That Is Fine With Me on Jack and Jill Politics
I would think being in attendance at the BET awards would disqualify you from entree into the Black Elite.


We can never get anywhere because our race is too internally divided - the Black Elite are where they are because when they got money and status, they GTHO and told the rest of us "No Room For You."

1 year ago

in The Obamas Are NOT Elite - And, That Is Fine With Me on Jack and Jill Politics
A Black Blog about the Social Elite and the fact that Michelle Obama may very well be the nation's first African-American First Lady and the blog owner didn't/hasn't/won't do a post about her because "she doesn't qualify"?


Stop Right There. And the Blog Owner needs to GTHO.

1 year ago

in Limbaugh’s Phobia on Jack and Jill Politics
Mr. Boil on his Butt is scared that if Obama gets in, the first thing he does as POTUS is reinstate regulation of the FCC.


That means his fat ass gets tossed off the air for anymore racist rants, with Michael Savage and O'Reilly to follow.

1 year ago

in Barack & Michelle Obama - AA Run Amok and Ingrate? on Jack and Jill Politics
Like Hillary Clinton and Gerry the Klanswoman didn't benefit from the same concept of Affirmative Action.


Hell, they probably had it handed to them before Michelle did.



Their whiteness is showing and continues to show.

1 year ago

in Bill Clinton’s ‘ Miffed’ At Obama on Jack and Jill Politics
It appears Hillary got the message while Bill is still living off his charisma of the 90s, which is so passe in the 21st Century.


His whiteness is showing as Tim Wise would say.

1 year ago

in Don Imus is Not the Issue. on Jack and Jill Politics
I do like the idea of a cyber Town Hall meeting, B-Serious. We probably should look into that and see how to get one arranged on discussions like this one regarding Imus.


I knew it was only a matter of time before he got caught with his drawers showing - the fact he ran to Al Sharpton after the "nappy-headed hoes" comment demonstrated that whenever a white celebrity screws up, they got Al Sharpton on speed-dial, hope they can give him payola for Al to provide cover and absolution, and everyone's happy.



They didn't expect the sponsors to get hit, though, and in the end, the sponsors slung Imus under the bus and waited for the storm to blow over before digging him back up and putting him back on the air.



Just a matter of time. The fact that despite our protests about O'Reilly, Hannity and Limbaugh have gone ignored, says only one bigot at a time can they afford to sling under a bus in the hopes it shuts us up. We need to keep making noise until the airwaves are cleaned of their asses, and the way we do that is to take back a portion of the airwaves that got stolen from us.

1 year ago

in Is America Addicted to Bigotry and Racism? on Jack and Jill Politics
Well, just like a virus is a symptom of a disease, addiction is the actual disease itself, B-Serious. And just like you treat the disease by administering the antibiotic that kills the source, we may have to identify racism and bigotry in the same manner and kill it the same way.


Self-empowerment is always a good cure, but there are people who don't want to do the work to get there and are comfortable being sick (i. e. Armstrong Williams, et al).



Others, like Imus and crew, are afraid of having to live in a world where they can no longer have bigotry or racism to hide behind as a means of covering up their own deficiencies. It's easier to take everyone else's inventory than to take one's own and learn about those character defects, much less become willing to have them removed.



And yeah, everything did stop at 1968, because Martin got assassinated before he could show the rest of Black America how to link integration with demanding equality in jobs and education. On the last day of his life, he did tell his associates that rather than feeling proud of the accomplishments of the civil rights movement thus far, he felt he'd integrated us right into a burning house, meaning, integration and being allowed to go where white people went, meant nothing if we didn't have the economic wherewithal to get there and stay there.

1 year ago

in When It Comes To Michelle Obama, Where Are The Feminists? on Jack and Jill Politics
Like Tim Wise said, "Their Whitness is Showing."

1 year ago

in FISA and Wiretapping: COINTELPRO Back in Fashion on Jack and Jill Politics
Denise, Hoover did enough damage with COINTELPRO and not to mention he had blackmail files on just about every member of both Houses of Congress as well as the Executive and Judiciary branches.


The Mob, OTOH, had him dead to rights as an in-the-closet homosexual who blackmailed other closeted homosexuals to gain all the power he had. Any other FBI director wouldn't have been working for a powerless Attorney General because the AG would have had his own file on Hoover and kept his closeted behind in check.



D., enjoy your life being in Orwell's "1984" when they can actually televise what you do and when you do it, just like Winston Smith got told when to get up and do his morning exercises before going to work.

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
D, it's only tough to love this country because not enough people are agreeing with your point of view.


You better be careful because your comment like "tough to love this country" could get you flamed like the MSM did Michelle Obama, and you surely don't want that and still consider yourself an American, do you?

1 year ago

in FISA and Wiretapping: COINTELPRO Back in Fashion on Jack and Jill Politics
I say we use this to get another progressive into that seat. His district borders Elijah Cummings - surely there's some progressive money-maker that can take on Hoyer and scare Cummings at the same time?

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
Bruce, you know me better than that, but I will answer your question anyway, LOL.


I find myself in a growing number of people who are saying the same thing, "I will vote for him, but..." because at this point, I don't know how my vote is going to count, but I cannot afford to stay home. Who's to say - I might fool everyone and cast my vote for Cynthia instead - it depends on where I find myself between now and November, and it also depends on how much more we'll find out about Mr. Obama's platform before I really have to leave him Stuck Like Chuck.



He's come dangerously close to it with the situation with his former Pastor. And don't get me started with the FISA mess - I'm hoping MoveOn gets Color of Change to join him in holding him to his promise to filibuster FISA (new). His lame-ass statement sounded like regurgitating Lieberman-ReThug talking points, and they sure have Kos' knickers in a bunch.



We have to be willing to call out this brotha both on the negatives as well as the positives. Excusing them because he's running for office doesn't cut it with me anymore.

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
Belle,
I am safe. My family is safe, and hopefully my son will grow up with the sense of security that was taken from us on 9/11.



Okay, D., how will you feel if you find out your phones are being tapped because the government suddenly decided that despite your heroic and patriotic service to your country, for some strange reason, you're suddenly considered a "threat" and they need to watch you at all costs?



That's what is meant by evisceration of your 4th Amendment rights. And since you asked how many of us have been concerned about the constitution, I join in with PT Cruiser as having been concerned about the constitution since 1976 - when a Civics instructor named Dr. Orville B. Davis, made a class of kids memorize the preamble to it and recite it chapter and verse.



I was one of those junior high kids forced to memorize the thing and got re-introduced to it as a college freshman taking Con Law.



It's not that people had no concern about the constitution - it wasn't until the Supreme Court decided to violate their own commission to uphold, defend, protect and interpret the Constitution in favor of partisanship, and continual destroying of the provisions for the last eight years, woke up everyone with a brain and a conscious.



Senator Obama taught Con Law - therefore to support outright evisceration of the protections he lectured on as a law school professor, should be giving everyone pause.



But, we African-Americans with a critical thought are flamed when we voice such concerns, and if the true progressives not African-American say anything, they're either racist or straight hating.



I fully support MoveOn's campaign to make Obama put up or shut up. How he responds should be viewed how he will lead, and should he respond in a manner that speaks to censorship and whatnot, we will have our answer.



As in, "Meet the New Boss, straight from the Same Bush."

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
D., his real options are to name a platform and stick to it, instead of running this fluid campaign that allows him to be a damned chameleon at will.


And if he's pandering to factions that are not going to vote for him anyway, that's saying far more about his ability to lead than I need to know.



Even Bill Clinton accepted that there were factions of the country that weren't going to vote for him and he concentrated his efforts on the ones were most likely to vote for him. While that strategy worked for him, I like Howard Dean's 50-state strategy better, but really, while Obama needs to contend for votes in all 50-states, sometimes, he should know when and where to pack it in.

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
Obama's pandering so as not to be seen as soft on terrorism. That's expected.


I call BS on this one, d. He doesn't have to pander to anyone - he needs to find his platform and either stick to it or get off. He's flip flopping more than Kerry to the point he's making Kerry look stable. Additionally, when he said he liked Ronnie Raygun, that should have given us all PAUSE.



Instead, we spent time defending him and parsing his statements praising Reagan. People of color got annihilated during the Reagan administration to the point we actually was happy to see Bush, Sr.



I will probably vote for Obama, but it will qualified with a "But", because there's probably more I'm going to have to call BS on before this is over.



At least I won't be expecting him to take people of color to the Promised Land if he wins. I won't be disappointed in his policies, either.



Let's be honest; the Bush Administration has amassed totalitarian power and no succeeding POTUS, be it Clinton, Obama or McCain, is going to willingly hand back the concept of checks and balances back to Congress, since Congress GAVE THEM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.



Yes, I'm shouting, because in the face of evidence, there will still be some who will not "GET IT" and it will be to their own detriment.

1 year ago

in Find the CBC Member… on Jack and Jill Politics
I hope I qualify as a heroine, Belle, because I spent most of the weekend debating whether or not objective criticism of Obama and his policies were off limits.


Did I not post a thread linking to articles calling him out on his preaching on last Sunday, and got my happy ass flamed until well done?



What say those of you who flamed and engaged in name calling of me last week for pointing out examples like this? And that was mild, compared to the fact that Obama, if we pay attention, is actually TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXACTLY WHAT HE IS GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT.



Pay attention to how he adjusts his message to the audiences he addresses, and it is no excuse that he has to tailor his message to certain constituencies. Most of us have universal goals and policies we want addressed and none to exclusion.



AIPAC - Israel will be protected at all costs. Sounds like he's cosigning one of the Senators who's busy pandering to the GOP and slandering him, Joe Lieberman.



UCC - Quit when the heat got turned up. I don't care how distracting Jeremiah Wright was perceived to be; you are not going to tell me he sat under Wright's pastorage for over 20 years and never once heard one of those "controversial" sermons.



I'll give him a pass on refusal to accept public financing because if he does and McCain doesn't, he gets handcuffed and can't finance protection against being swift boated.



Obama is a shrewd politico, but the day we can't call him out on his shyt before he enters the White House, we've already descended into a police state...amongst ourselves. Never mind what the GOP will do; hell, they won't really have to do anything to us except sit back and watch us destroy ourselves because we want a Black Face in the White House to the extent we excuse, pander and give a pass to the brotha who has told us "there is no Black America".

1 year ago

in NAACP Spends Half of Jena 6 Money on NAACP on Jack and Jill Politics
I already posted that blog post highlighting the selection of Ben Jealous, and Julian Bond threw a hissy fit in the comments section.


Now this.



I say we hit him with both barrels and ask them to answer my question about relevancy, since he cited dubious poll results to justify what they do.



And, remember, there are 63 Negroes sitting on that Board. Stop Right There.

1 year ago

in Black People Just Don’t Say Whitey…Ever on Jack and Jill Politics
Shoot, the last time I heard "whitey" was by my grandfather back in 1969.


1969, y'all. And I wasn't quite eight years old, but, then again, I didn't need to be old enough to know who he meant - then he got admonished by my grandmother for using the term in front of me, LOL.



I call BS on the whole "Whiteygate" scandal. It only means the ReThugs have no real dog to hunt in this race, and they're mad as hell about it.



The more we point out and challenge their attacks; the more we call BS on attacking Michelle Obama because they can't get to Barack - we flush them out of hiding and like roaches, we STOMP them into oblivion.

1 year ago

in Obama Opts Out of Public Financing System on Jack and Jill Politics
Craig, Obama forces the CBC members to play offense, as opposed to crying "foul" all the doggone time. What's good for Obama is good for McCain.


Let them either both play by the rules or stop crying "foul" when the other party does it.



As for you Constructive Feedback, I do believe I can report you for stalking and you've left enough evidence, including the invoking of a "CPL" watch to get you banned from most blogs because you're stalking me and you hijack threads.



Now I know why you have 50 million blogs with different names and no one's reading them, so you come on blogs that I frequent and stalk me.



Even internet stalking is a crime and you continue to hand me enough evidence to get you banned from blogs if not convicted in a court of law. Keep it up...

1 year ago

in Why We Must Challenge Fake Noise on Jack and Jill Politics
Anon 1:03


Are you a Christian? Then who are you to judge me? Even if you are a Christian, the Bible is really clear "Judge not, lest ye be judged."



If I've offended you with my saltiness, and it gets you off track as a Christian, I do apologize, because that I take very seriously.



However, you are dealing with an individual who has been highly abused by leaders and whatnot in the Church, in Jesus' name and right now, I'm finding my way back to Jesus in a way that works for me. Comments like yours, judging me on whether or not I'm a Christian, sent me out of the church.



And "bigoted pansies"? Honestly, there's no one on this board more gay-friendly than me, because when the "Christians" were tearing down a sista, kicking her out of jobs, setting her up for failure, in Jesus' name, it was gays and lesbians who gave me a second chance. The pansies remark is referencing "cowards" although in hindsight, I guess it could be conveyed towards gay people, so I apologize if anyone took it as such.



Now, as Martin Lawrence would say, "RUNTELLDAT."

1 year ago

in Why We Must Challenge Fake Noise on Jack and Jill Politics
While I appreciate the wide range of comments, and I'm not backing down from the post, I do take exception to those of you who want to be addressed with respect, have your comments heard with respect, and yet, engage in name calling of the author of the post.


I save my name calling for Fox Noise, and other "pundits" who use whatever words we say to place them in context of where they can lie about African-Americans AS A WHOLE.



So, Carribean Lionness, there probably will never be a time when I write something you don't agree with and I'm okay with it. But, you have engaged in the very disrespect that you denounce elsewhere. But if you don't like what I have to say, you are always free not to respond.



And if you think you didn't engage in name-calling, recheck your first few posts. Unlike you, I fully support freedom of speech, even when I disagree with it, but I will always draw the line at slander, innuendo and flat out lies. All I pointed out was that Obama needs to quit handing the enemy ammunition to use against us. Let me recap:



DAP/Fist Bump - "Terrorist Handshake"



My Wife - "Baby Mama"



Michelle, his wife (an articulate, educated, beautiful, chocolate sista NOT playing MAMMY) - "Angry Black Woman".



We're going to see this from now until after the brotha gets sworn in, and it probably won't stop until his last day in office. While we'd like to believe we should be past racism, the fact remains that there are votes he's not going to get because he's a Brotha, and that's the real. Which is why we need to call out any media outlet engaging in this punditry, and that also includes not handing the enemy any more ammunition that they can use.



It's easy to say "If they weren't talking about you, then it doesn't matter". How many times have you heard something that you knew didn't apply to you, and yet, you felt insulted, whatever? The brothas who responded to Obama's remarks (and yes, not only did I watch the speech, its' been reposted here on this very thread) were interpreting his remarks as if he slung ALL BROTHAS, including the ones holding it down as fathers, under the bus, whether it applied to them or not.



I support Barack Obama, and yet, my training as a political scientist taught me to evaluate and analyze very carefully what's coming out of his mouth, so in the end, if he gets the White House, and he starts engaging in policies that starts giving people heartburn, I, for one, will not be caught off guard, because, if we analyze his speeches, and sift through rhetoric and code words, we will know exactly what the man is telling us he's going to do as POTUS.



No one is asking him to pay attention only to the concerns of African-Americans; yet, his reluctance to discuss issues pertaining to African-American communities, like the issue of Black Fathers (or their absence) is making me very nervous in the sense that once he's sworn in, and nothing changes in the African-American community like it was supposed to do in the movie "Rufus Jones for President" a good deal of his Black supporters are going to be highly disappointed, even though they say they won't be.



I need to remind you that once he's elected (and I believe he will beat the shyt out of McCain in the Fall), Obama will have very little room for error and very little time to make an impact (usually, POTUS don't get to do things to make significant impacts until their second term, if they see one) - so from Day One, he's already campaigning for the second term by making sure he lays a foundation for re-election. That means not pissing off the real benefactors that got him there.



I like the political discussions here on this blog, but I have never engaged in calling any commenter on here names, even if I disagree with them. The fact that CL prefers to call me names as opposed to engaging in real discussion, well, who's really the whiney, immature one on this board?



Oh, and CL - long posts like yours suggests you should get your own blog because it appears you have a lot to say. Think about it.
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