DISQUS

Isn't the point about the E71 that it's pitched as a high-end smartphone, but we all know it'll be pushed down range pretty fast and soon be available on the lower priced contracts... and so really it;s been designed for that price point and therefore comes with compromises?

wonrg thread, Iknow, but has T-Mob UK just upgraded it's portal page? It seems to have all kinds of widgest and stuff now... could've been there a while, since i don't visit the portal often

Isn’t it perhaps better to work off-deck first?
Build-up some track-record (users, experience, statistics, and maybe revenue, etc) and then take it to an operator for a portal deal?
Portals are over-run with content that’s difficult to discover. I thought operators were cutting back on small third-party deals and just going with the mainstream, high volume stuff … ebay, yahoo, etc

Re: Orange... it's organizational failure. The operator became very beaurocractic (sp?). Lots of people who work there, in all divisions, at all levels, realize there's a problem with data tariffs.

But they just got a new chief exec, so things should change pretty soon.

The obvious thing to do is change provider -- you are being mugged.

Shame voice doesn't work for you on T-Mob, cause their package is comeptitive.

3's good as well in my experience.

I use Truphone quite a bit – nearly always for international calls or when I’m abroad and phoning back to the UK. This saves a good bit of money, but you’re restricted to areas of good WiFi signal (a major drawback of any mobile VOIP service)

I like the way it integrates with the Nokias and doesn’t require a specialist client. I don’t mind paying for calls. Rates are competitive enough.

I don’t buy the termination revenue argument, though. Why would you give your Truphone number out instead of your normal number?

Call quality to European mobiles is often appalling… but it can be hard to tell if it’s the WiFi, the termination service, the foreign mobile network, or the receivers’ handset that’s at fault.

What I’d like would a feature that integrates international call bypass with the TruPhone account– so I could make “normal” international mobile calls at lower cost.

I like Truphone, it’s a useful service

I've been using Vodafone for a while... it's phenomenal.

Point taken on the N95… it’s big, hard to use at first, and the browser isn’t great.
But to balance it out some, there is a vast range of apps available. As devices get easier to use and smaller, this ecosystem of apps will influence what phones people buy.
I’m not sure you can say that “normal” people don’t/won’t want third party apps, or that everything will be done in browsers.