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Venus DWR,

Thank you for your participation in this discussion. I did not know Garcia was involved in wetlands destruction. Would you please post more information about this, perhaps including a link to a news article, etc.? Thank you very much.

Respectfully,
Venus

Venus DWR thank you for reminding everyone that LBPD Chief Batts was a supporter of Dean's Home Depot plan, and that his then spouse, Laura Richardson, voted in favor the Dean's Home Depot plan.

LB City Girl Awwwwwwww, isn't it cute how we're all getting along?

not leaving a name I third that challenge.

We have heard enough empty promises from twerps who what to be politician supermodels. Stop posing for the cameras and telling us that you are a young minority - we've got one of those already. We want financial statements to back up poetry and promises... in all the city council areas!

James Ditto. Suja's office is complete nonresponsive. Dan Baker's staff were superior by far . Suja's doesn't even stoop to tell you to go away.

Of the entire self-serving Lowenthal clan, she is by far the most transparent. Second district is just a step-upon, step-over, step-around stone to her political ambitions.

John_B DWR: I regularly communicate, both in person and in writing, with many of my elected and appointed officials.

Just ask them and they will confirm this (although some no doubt wish I would not communicate with them quite so often).

I am not a community organizer nor do I pretend to be. I am an individual private citizen who: Always votes; Always votes responsibly; Requires those we elect to be responsive to my requests for information; Closely monitors the actions and activities of our elected and appointed officials and makes my views crystal clear, to anyone who cares to listen, on how I believe our fine City should be operated.

That's who I am and what I do and all I ask is that more of the electorate in this city start doing the same. It is not only their right to do so...it is their responsibility.

Not everyone desires to be a public figure. Not all of us have the talents to organize or to lead groups of civic-minded people. And not everyone has to be.

But if more of us would simply personally participate in all levels of our government in a more constructive and educated fashion, many of the related challenges that people bring forth on DW and elsewhere would never occur in the first place.

You seem to misperceive my questions to Mike as some sort of personal attack. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Mike has my immense respect for being among the few residents in our City who consistently demand a higher standard of representation from our elected and appointed officials. Diana Bosetti is another. There are several others as well. I tip my hat to all of them.

I simply re-phrased Mike's questions and then addressed them to him (just as I did with Juan earlier) because he was the one who originally asked them.

We need to start re-framing these questions and these arguments. We need to remember that the government that so many of us have so many complaints about is, at the end of the day, *our* government. The government we have is *precisely* the government we deserve by virtue of our collectively poor participation in the process that creates it and then maintains it.

We need to remember that and then we need to start behaving as if we believe it.

If we do not do so, nothing will ever change.

John_B DWR: If I'm not mistaken, the various roadblocks erected before the old Disney Sea concept, part of a larger Port Disney project, were actually set up by the Coastal Commission and the Port of Long Beach, not by the Council.

Disney was fully prepared to spend some $2 billion in 1990 dollars to develop Queensway bay but, sadly, the concept never got past the drafting table and the Mouse's temporary operation of the Queen Mary and Spruce Goose.

According to one source, the Coastal Commission didn't like the thought of Disney dredging and then re-filling some 250 acres of the bay to build it's idea of the happiest place in Long Beach and the Port wasn't much interested in seeing its operations disrupted or otherwise encroached upon.

But, as they say, that's polluted Queensway Bay water well under the bridge.

I feel strongly that some of the best answers for Pine are going to come from regular folks in the community…from residents that love Long Beach and don't necessarily have a dime to be made from what eventually happens downtown.

I most certainly could be wrong.

LB City Girl DWR, I guess I don't understand why the two even have become connected. A person like myself believes we should restore the wetlands AND have the Sports Complex.

I also oppose the Home Depot project, though I'll admit, I'd love to have such a conveniently located place to purchase caulk. Lord knows the two Home Depots, the Lowes, and the other assorted hardware stores we already have simply aren't enough.

Dave Wielenga (wink)

Dave Wielenga If that happened, sorry --- although, honestly, you ought to be thanking us. Pretty lame.

John_B And you're welcome to stand steadfastly in any belief you care to hold, DWR. I can't argue against a belief, merely the supposed facts that are used to support it.

But like it or don't, your stance in this case (as well as the issues upon which you are basing it) is, indeed, debatable and for this reason I have made an effort to do so.

Thanks for playing along! See you on the next topic!