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2 years ago
in SchMOe – I Tagged Myself on MyBlogLog on Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion
Andy --
Totally agree with you on skipping the theatrics. You've raised some really good issues and I'd like to respond:
Why use Del.icio.us formatting?
You listed a bunch of different examples for "blogging tips" tags, but you left off the one that many expert taggers use: "bloggingtips". Since we're aggregating tags from multiple sources (and what you see now is just the tip of the iceberg) we need to store them in the format that has the best chance of a future match. It's easy to remove spaces and special characters but adding them, not so much.
Why use Technorati?
Why not? They're a great service and we dig the people there. They provide a great service to their members and have an awesome API. What am I missing?
Use data from feeds
That's a really interesting idea. Right now we're not actually capturing any of the data in the feed so it would require some extra work, but the idea has been added to the "future development" list.
Totally agree with you on skipping the theatrics. You've raised some really good issues and I'd like to respond:
Why use Del.icio.us formatting?
You listed a bunch of different examples for "blogging tips" tags, but you left off the one that many expert taggers use: "bloggingtips". Since we're aggregating tags from multiple sources (and what you see now is just the tip of the iceberg) we need to store them in the format that has the best chance of a future match. It's easy to remove spaces and special characters but adding them, not so much.
Why use Technorati?
Why not? They're a great service and we dig the people there. They provide a great service to their members and have an awesome API. What am I missing?
Use data from feeds
That's a really interesting idea. Right now we're not actually capturing any of the data in the feed so it would require some extra work, but the idea has been added to the "future development" list.
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Andy Beard
Eric sorry for the delay in responding to comments, but I needed to get my Facebook article finished.
One way of demonstrating why that method of tagging is bad is to give some domain name examples which I am going to steal from Bonnie (I am sure she will appreciate the link), though it is not in the content at least it will be worth something.
The reverse is going to happen on MyBlogLog, and a blog tagged with expertsexchange is going to have their content listed with unrelated content.
Google treats "blogging tips" and "bloggingtips" differently - with a space you get relevant results, and without the space you get links to bloggingtips.com
I know it is only the URL for the tag page, and there can be a benefit in having additional variations of using the same tag with and without spacing. That is why I often use lots of different versions of the same tags where there is likely to be different usage. Recently "Stompernet" and "Stomper Net" or "Portal Feeder" and "Portalfeeder"
Tags which have a divider between words should keep it in some way.
One way of demonstrating why that method of tagging is bad is to give some domain name examples which I am going to steal from Bonnie (I am sure she will appreciate the link), though it is not in the content at least it will be worth something.
Many people think using hyphens in domain names is a mistake. (I’m not one of them.) Perhaps the creators of these domain names should’ve considered using hyphens:
whorepresents.com (would’ve become who-represents.com)
expertsexchange.com (would’ve become experts-exchange.com)
penisisland.com (would’ve become pen-island.com)
therapistfinder.com (would’ve become therapist-finder.com)
viagrafix.com (would’ve become via-grafix.com)
Ihavegas.com (would’ve become iha-vegas.com)
The reverse is going to happen on MyBlogLog, and a blog tagged with expertsexchange is going to have their content listed with unrelated content.
Google treats "blogging tips" and "bloggingtips" differently - with a space you get relevant results, and without the space you get links to bloggingtips.com
I know it is only the URL for the tag page, and there can be a benefit in having additional variations of using the same tag with and without spacing. That is why I often use lots of different versions of the same tags where there is likely to be different usage. Recently "Stompernet" and "Stomper Net" or "Portal Feeder" and "Portalfeeder"
Tags which have a divider between words should keep it in some way.
2 years ago
in SchMOe – I Tagged Myself on MyBlogLog on Andy Beard - Internet Business Systems Discussion
Andy --
Totally agree with you on skipping the theatrics. You've raised some really good issues and I'd like to respond:
Why use Del.icio.us formatting?
You listed a bunch of different examples for "blogging tips" tags, but you left off the one that many expert taggers use: "bloggingtips". Since we're aggregating tags from multiple sources (and what you see now is just the tip of the iceberg) we need to store them in the format that has the best chance of a future match. It's easy to remove spaces and special characters but adding them, not so much.
Why use Technorati?
Why not? They're a great service and we dig the people there. They provide a great service to their members and have an awesome API. What am I missing?
Use data from feeds
That's a really interesting idea. Right now we're not actually capturing any of the data in the feed so it would require some extra work, but the idea has been added to the "future development" list.
Totally agree with you on skipping the theatrics. You've raised some really good issues and I'd like to respond:
Why use Del.icio.us formatting?
You listed a bunch of different examples for "blogging tips" tags, but you left off the one that many expert taggers use: "bloggingtips". Since we're aggregating tags from multiple sources (and what you see now is just the tip of the iceberg) we need to store them in the format that has the best chance of a future match. It's easy to remove spaces and special characters but adding them, not so much.
Why use Technorati?
Why not? They're a great service and we dig the people there. They provide a great service to their members and have an awesome API. What am I missing?
Use data from feeds
That's a really interesting idea. Right now we're not actually capturing any of the data in the feed so it would require some extra work, but the idea has been added to the "future development" list.
2 replies
Andy Beard
Eric sorry for the delay in responding to comments, but I needed to get my Facebook article finished.
One way of demonstrating why that method of tagging is bad is to give some domain name examples which I am going to steal from Bonnie (I am sure she will appreciate the link), though it is not in the content at least it will be worth something.
The reverse is going to happen on MyBlogLog, and a blog tagged with expertsexchange is going to have their content listed with unrelated content.
Google treats "blogging tips" and "bloggingtips" differently - with a space you get relevant results, and without the space you get links to bloggingtips.com
I know it is only the URL for the tag page, and there can be a benefit in having additional variations of using the same tag with and without spacing. That is why I often use lots of different versions of the same tags where there is likely to be different usage. Recently "Stompernet" and "Stomper Net" or "Portal Feeder" and "Portalfeeder"
Tags which have a divider between words should keep it in some way.
One way of demonstrating why that method of tagging is bad is to give some domain name examples which I am going to steal from Bonnie (I am sure she will appreciate the link), though it is not in the content at least it will be worth something.
Many people think using hyphens in domain names is a mistake. (I’m not one of them.) Perhaps the creators of these domain names should’ve considered using hyphens:
whorepresents.com (would’ve become who-represents.com)
expertsexchange.com (would’ve become experts-exchange.com)
penisisland.com (would’ve become pen-island.com)
therapistfinder.com (would’ve become therapist-finder.com)
viagrafix.com (would’ve become via-grafix.com)
Ihavegas.com (would’ve become iha-vegas.com)
The reverse is going to happen on MyBlogLog, and a blog tagged with expertsexchange is going to have their content listed with unrelated content.
Google treats "blogging tips" and "bloggingtips" differently - with a space you get relevant results, and without the space you get links to bloggingtips.com
I know it is only the URL for the tag page, and there can be a benefit in having additional variations of using the same tag with and without spacing. That is why I often use lots of different versions of the same tags where there is likely to be different usage. Recently "Stompernet" and "Stomper Net" or "Portal Feeder" and "Portalfeeder"
Tags which have a divider between words should keep it in some way.
Andy Beard
I also should point out that this wasn't the first time I have suggested using tagging from the feeds, I have mentioned it in multiple articles and you have even responded in the comments.
From when I suggested it to Bumpzee, it only took a matter of 2 days to implement automatic tagging.
Blogcatalog have implemented it partially, though I think it was placed on the backburner for a few weeks as they certainly have a few other things to fix.
I should point out both of those communities don't have loads of spam filters, but but they don't need them because they have great ways for the community to police things, and sites are vetted before inclusion.
From when I suggested it to Bumpzee, it only took a matter of 2 days to implement automatic tagging.
Blogcatalog have implemented it partially, though I think it was placed on the backburner for a few weeks as they certainly have a few other things to fix.
I should point out both of those communities don't have loads of spam filters, but but they don't need them because they have great ways for the community to police things, and sites are vetted before inclusion.
From when I suggested it to Bumpzee, it only took a matter of 2 days to implement automatic tagging.
Blogcatalog have implemented it partially, though I think it was placed on the backburner for a few weeks as they certainly have a few other things to fix.
I should point out both of those communities don't have loads of spam filters, but but they don't need them because they have great ways for the community to police things, and sites are vetted before inclusion.