DISQUS

ewwwwww. looking crappy on safari. hmm. (this is from john, but not logged in as me.)

i loooooove Things and like TweetDeck, so will have to go try together....

hey david -- i really, really like this set of posts -- incredibly interesting -- illustrates the digital divide as well as anything i've seen to date.

i do think that it'll be useful to re-run with download numbers once we're finished with the 24 hour period in about 30 minutes -- i think things will look a little more like you expected still.

hi fred -- have you installed any extensions lately that you know of? or have you started using any new javascript-heavy sites that you can think of that coincides with the problem? the most recent firefox update was 2.0.0.6 several weeks ago - was released on July 25 -- but we've not had any reports of particular instability from it.

my *guess* is that it's something to do with an extension -- maybe one updated recently?

(also, i don't believe that the mac-optimized stuff that chris is pointing at will make a difference -- it's likely to be either an issue in your profile (that is, the extensions you're running) or something in the HTML/Javascript of a site you're going to causing problems for the renderer)

(john from mozilla)

great work, dave, as always!

i've been thinking a lot about this today -- obviously everyone here has. what seems (to me) to be happening overall is that our mechanisms for participation in some of the conversations we're having aren't quite scaling in kind. there are places to talk about how firefox gets developed (dev.apps.planning), there are places to talk about governance issues as well -- these are all open & accessible, although we need to keep working on it.

but there's not a very good place to talk together about what mozilla can/should be.

i'm trying very very hard to get everyone to tease apart tone & implication from content. on the content, there's much to reiterate & explain (the stuff about international efforts, college efforts, etc, is just not correct), there's much to talk about to come to better strategies on (what's after the browser, for example). that's stuff we have some ways to talk about in the community -- but we should be clearer. the funny thing is that the conversations are all happening in a highly decentralized way -- that's mozilla DNA -- we could have them in a more centralized way, but it is a tension, for sure.

but i think that much of the conversation so far has been personal in nature -- everyone i know involved with mozilla puts *everything* they have into it. they work incredibly hard, they try to always do the right thing, they take criticism exceptionally personally.

chris, i've found your comments on other peoples' blogs immensely more moderated in *tone* and more productive to talk about. here you're saying it's a plea for answers -- that's great -- the form of your post wasn't that, though. it said more, "they're not doing this, they're not doing that." the campus stuff is an example. just because you don't know about what's happening doesn't mean that it's not, and framed as a question "what's going on with campus stuff?" is a much different framing than we started with. there's a ton of stuff happening in japan that's nothing to do with joi, there's a ton of stuff happening in europe and china and latin america and africa. we should be talking about it more, yes. we're searching for ways to do it always.

we can be more, we should be more. but we should also be proud of where we are. i'd like any discussion of the future (and we're having & should have a lot more) should be grounded in what the situation is today, what we're doing now, what we're not doing now.

anyway, dave, this is a great contribution.

things are moving quickly here, yep. it's an interesting place. every bit as dynamic as the US and rest of the world.

i find johnlilly.com a little too on-the-nose, if you get my drift. sam & kathy are going to have space there, so probably not right.

if only adamnash.com weren't taken -- that'd be cool & super-ironic.

yeah, i came to the same conclusion yesterday -- the gallery experience really, really sucks. how is it possible that nobody has done a "wordpress for pictures?"

the flickr galleries are a little limiting, i'm finding -- i like the FAlbum stuff that rafael has done at rebron.org, but think i want something a little shinier.

maybe i'll have kathy just use iweb to publish to dreamhost, but that sorta sucks, too.

i'm starting to think that it'll make sense to use flickr for day-to-day photo posting, and then use something like i just put up here (http://www.chortling.org/china3/) for special albums (instead of what we have now, which is this: http://johnolilly.typepad.com/photos/17_months/index.html).

it's all a little more manual than i really want it to be, though.

yeah, i haven't tried that out in a while -- i found it pretty painful to use before, but that was with my ppc mac -- but it was more the UI that wasn't working for me than the speed...

it does help, actually. i often forget to turn on IMs lately, and it's helping my ADHD work style, I'm pretty sure...

i haven't read it -- i should take a look. i forgot to mention that iversen mentioned it in the preface -- that this was sort of an homage to crow. thanks for reminding me!