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Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:21:41 -0000

BDR,

You work in a fantastic environment for expressing your Christo-mysticism. Let that adventure develop gracefully.

Mircea Eliade (now no longer with us, but once the foremost scholar of Middle Asian Shamanism) - who wrote "Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy" called the Shaman a "psychopomp." The connections to Pentecost go on, don't they? ;-)

Thanks bro,
Phil

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:26:11 -0000

Dan,

Perhaps you should move into a yurt, and offer blessings spoken while beating a skin drum. That might help your friends break out of the rational. Okay, kidding aside - I feel as you do. These experiences do not happen often enough. May they increase and bring you both challenge and peace.

Phil

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:29:11 -0000

Mark,

If relating your deepest spirituality with a Buddhist friend is dabbling. Then like Paul with the first century Pagans - by all means dabble.

I identify with your difficult balance of being intellectual and being mystical. Radically be both!

Phil

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:38:33 -0000

Thanks David,

Sounds like you part of a Wiccan ritual. There are many pieces of the early developed Gardnerian and Alexandrian rituals, which have their source in the episcopi vagantes of the 19th century. It looks decidedly like a variation of mystical/liturgical Christianity at times.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:45:33 -0000

Hey Brian,

Dang! I want to prophesy the outcome of battles too! Okay maybe not, but I'm with you about shamanning better.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:52:25 -0000

The strangeness found in some Pentecostalism is what makes me apply Mircea Eliade's term for the shaman "psychopomp" to some Pentecostal leaders as well. There are times it is all show, and no go. Although the shaman is a psychopomp who typically pomps for the benefit of more than himself.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:54:34 -0000

Hey Iggy Quill,

Driven!? Ack! Okay I know that I am overly-sensitive to the Purpose Driven thingy. Your Spirit Driven does seem to be the better option bro.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:25:34 -0000

Kieran,

We will need to hear more about your travels and your experiences, and insights you have gained in the process. I hope you are ready to share with us all.

Re: Pentecost: Peace Carried on a Violent Wind

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:25 -0000

John,

Thanks for the call to carry this peace-fire.

Re: Pentecost: Peace Carried on a Violent Wind

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:47:25 -0000

John,

Thanks for the call to carry this peace-fire.

Re: “…and suddenly a sound…” (first place in aesthetics)

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:51:02 -0000

"we are the ink
a cursive font

a smudged love letter"

That rocks. Thanks.

Re: “…and suddenly a sound…”

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:51:02 -0000

"we are the ink
a cursive font
a smudged love letter"

That rocks. Thanks.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:59:20 -0000

Hey BP,

I am sure that it is only possible for brief moments in extremely open, and seeking places. Then something will happen which will cause someone (maybe me, maybe you, maybe another) to default to their safety positions, and get defensive. When that occurs all we can do is hold on to the ideal we hold in our hearts, and slowly work back toward it.

In heaven when we have a perfect balance we won't need the web, we can just transport places together.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:46:12 -0000

You read the Wittenburg Door?! No wonder you call yourself "he who cuts down." Yeap - they have some great stuff on Televangelists.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:47:59 -0000

Thanks Beth,

Your encouraging words are quite significant to me.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:02:13 -0000

I guess I'm living in a yurt these days. Round houses rule bro. Even better yet - houses with no walls! Church outside the box simply is not as square as church inside the box, but hopefully I can learn to reach out by reach back in the box. Reverse evangelism is needed in these days we journey together.

Re: Change comes on the wind (Or at least that’s how it happens in movies).

Phil Wyman — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:11:20 -0000

Julie,

This feels like a synchroblog event. Cool. As always - you ripped it up. I'm going to think social change and spirit empowerment when I eat chocolate from now on.

Re: Change comes on the wind (Or at least that’s how it happens in movies).

Phil Wyman — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:11:20 -0000

Julie,

This feels like a synchroblog event. Cool. As always - you ripped it up. I'm going to think social change and spirit empowerment when I eat chocolate from now on.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:55:29 -0000

John O Bro,

Thank you. Encouragement is cool when we scrape our knees along the path. ;-)

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman (1st Place Winner: Culture)

Phil Wyman — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:56:32 -0000

Hey Beth,

Wow. I never thought of myself as being all that post-modern, but thanks.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:23:08 -0000

I'm going into the pageant business! Nice.

Re: 38 Injured in “Pentecost Pageant”

Phil Wyman — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:23:08 -0000

I'm going into the pageant business! Nice.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:34:20 -0000

Wow - thank you. A little humbling, because I am impressed with all involved and especially with the Jesus Manifesto at large.

Thank you everyone: readers, commentors (which has been lively and intelligent), judges, and especially you Mark.

Phil

Re: And the Grand Prize Winner Is…

Phil Wyman — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:34:20 -0000

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:38:09 -0000

Beth and Rose,

Thank you. Beth - No not tired - in fact I have found the interaction lively and intelligent. Rose - If anyone would get some cynghanedd in there it would be you.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman

Phil Wyman — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:38:09 -0000

Beth and Rose,

Thank you. Beth - No not tired - in fact I have found the interaction lively and intelligent. Rose - If anyone would get some cynghanedd in there it would be you.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:29:04 -0000

Hey Naliah,

Good to see you here. Bless you.

Re: Pentecost and the Way of the Shaman

Phil Wyman — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:29:04 -0000

Hey Naliah,

Good to see you here. Bless you.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:34:44 -0000

Preaching is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing without listening - there is a place for it. Dialoguing is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing in the context of listening - it comes with adaptation, learning, and reciprocal acknowledgments of the others' value - whether we agree with them or not.

So it is no wonder that people are willing to listen to the same information in the context of dialogue, when they might have scoffed in the context of being preached at.

It is amazing how much of an adventure dialogue truly becomes, and these places we are afraid to go become the places we love most. So - go for it!

Re: A Christian Presenter at Pagan Pride!?

Phil Wyman — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:34:44 -0000

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:40:05 -0000

Hey destroyer,

I've never understood how visiting some place, or hanging out with certain people places one's views at an equivalence with another religious view. I know that it is a commonly held position, and fosters the "come out from among them" approach to Christian spiritual disciplines, but it does not seem to mirror Christ's identification with humanity.

I'm with you in the connecting to politics - although that seems far more dangerous to me. ;-)

Re: A Christian Presenter at Pagan Pride!?

Phil Wyman — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 07:40:05 -0000

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:14:06 -0000

Thanks Shayna. It was a great experience to be a part of as well.

Re: A Christian Presenter at Pagan Pride!?

Phil Wyman — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:14:06 -0000

Thanks Shayna. It was a great experience to be a part of as well.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:00:59 -0000

Hey Ben!

That's my city your writing about! Pagan Rights Watch - nice, although it's actually called the Witches' League for Public Awareness, and that's no joke. Fun post.

Re: Pagan Thinktank Releases Annual Sol Invictus-Friendly Shopping Guide

Phil Wyman — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:00:59 -0000

Hey Ben!

That's my city your writing about! Pagan Rights Watch - nice, although it's actually called the Witches' League for Public Awareness, and that's no joke. Fun post.

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:40:20 -0000

Oh Yeah!

Matt you are seriously on the track of missional thinking, which drives the direction of where this is all headed! I could not more heartily say, "Yes!"

Re: the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode

Phil Wyman — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:45:08 -0000

Hey Casey,

If you follow the link to the word Shaman in the article above it will take you to the Wikipedia page. That is a pretty decent, but complex definition. Unfortunately, a complex definition is what you will get here.As you read it, do not think that I am saying Jesus is a Shaman, but remember that I am only saying that I think He appears to fulfill many of the roles of a Shaman, and in some way does it more perfectly than any Shamans who have since lived.

Re: Jesus as the Archetype Shaman

Phil Wyman — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:40:20 -0000

Oh Yeah!

Matt you are seriously on the track of missional thinking, which drives the direction of where this is all headed! I could not more heartily say, "Yes!"

Re: Jesus as the Archetype Shaman

Phil Wyman — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:45:08 -0000

Re: Salem forum: Witches more popular, less scary

Phil Wyman — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:22:22 -0000

I want to apologize for some of those who say they are of my tribe - the Christians. It appears that disagreement, and disagreeableness too often run together when they should not.
It should be the model for all peace makers (which Christians should be learning to become) to learn to become unconditionally loving, and to prove it by our words and actions.

I appreciated the evening, and was quite glad to meet Margot for the first time.

We will always be there to help out, and desire to help break the miscarriage of understanding.

Peace Be Yours,
Pastor Phil - The Gathering

Re: The Political Fray

Phil Wyman — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:03:17 -0000

Jonathan,

We held our Pub Theology Night tonight, and considered what you ponder here. What is our part in this political environment? What is God asking me (not the other) to be and do. Thanks for framing this in that manner.