DISQUS

Hey Casey,

If you follow the link to the word Shaman in the article above it will take you to the Wikipedia page. That is a pretty decent, but complex definition. Unfortunately, a complex definition is what you will get here.As you read it, do not think that I am saying Jesus is a Shaman, but remember that I am only saying that I think He appears to fulfill many of the roles of a Shaman, and in some way does it more perfectly than any Shamans who have since lived.

Oh Yeah!

Matt you are seriously on the track of missional thinking, which drives the direction of where this is all headed! I could not more heartily say, "Yes!"

Hey Casey,


If you follow the link to the word Shaman in the article above it will take you to the Wikipedia page. That is a pretty decent, but complex definition. Unfortunately, a complex definition is what you will get here.As you read it, do not think that I am saying Jesus is a Shaman, but remember that I am only saying that I think He appears to fulfill many of the roles of a Shaman, and in some way does it more perfectly than any Shamans who have since lived.

Oh Yeah!


Matt you are seriously on the track of missional thinking, which drives the direction of where this is all headed! I could not more heartily say, "Yes!"

Hey Ben!

That's my city your writing about! Pagan Rights Watch - nice, although it's actually called the Witches' League for Public Awareness, and that's no joke. Fun post.

Hey Ben!


That's my city your writing about! Pagan Rights Watch - nice, although it's actually called the Witches' League for Public Awareness, and that's no joke. Fun post.

Thanks Shayna. It was a great experience to be a part of as well.

Thanks Shayna. It was a great experience to be a part of as well.

Hey destroyer,

I've never understood how visiting some place, or hanging out with certain people places one's views at an equivalence with another religious view. I know that it is a commonly held position, and fosters the "come out from among them" approach to Christian spiritual disciplines, but it does not seem to mirror Christ's identification with humanity.

I'm with you in the connecting to politics - although that seems far more dangerous to me. ;-)

Hey destroyer,


I've never understood how visiting some place, or hanging out with certain people places one's views at an equivalence with another religious view. I know that it is a commonly held position, and fosters the "come out from among them" approach to Christian spiritual disciplines, but it does not seem to mirror Christ's identification with humanity.



I'm with you in the connecting to politics - although that seems far more dangerous to me. ;-)

Preaching is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing without listening - there is a place for it. Dialoguing is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing in the context of listening - it comes with adaptation, learning, and reciprocal acknowledgments of the others' value - whether we agree with them or not.

So it is no wonder that people are willing to listen to the same information in the context of dialogue, when they might have scoffed in the context of being preached at.

It is amazing how much of an adventure dialogue truly becomes, and these places we are afraid to go become the places we love most. So - go for it!

Preaching is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing without listening - there is a place for it. Dialoguing is teaching, encouraging, and admonishing in the context of listening - it comes with adaptation, learning, and reciprocal acknowledgments of the others' value - whether we agree with them or not.


So it is no wonder that people are willing to listen to the same information in the context of dialogue, when they might have scoffed in the context of being preached at.



It is amazing how much of an adventure dialogue truly becomes, and these places we are afraid to go become the places we love most. So - go for it!

Jonathan,

We held our Pub Theology Night tonight, and considered what you ponder here. What is our part in this political environment? What is God asking me (not the other) to be and do. Thanks for framing this in that manner.

Hey Naliah,

Good to see you here. Bless you.

Hey Naliah,


Good to see you here. Bless you.

Beth and Rose,

Thank you. Beth - No not tired - in fact I have found the interaction lively and intelligent. Rose - If anyone would get some cynghanedd in there it would be you.

Beth and Rose,


Thank you. Beth - No not tired - in fact I have found the interaction lively and intelligent. Rose - If anyone would get some cynghanedd in there it would be you.

Wow - thank you. A little humbling, because I am impressed with all involved and especially with the Jesus Manifesto at large.

Thank you everyone: readers, commentors (which has been lively and intelligent), judges, and especially you Mark.

Phil

Wow - thank you. A little humbling, because I am impressed with all involved and especially with the Jesus Manifesto at large.


Thank you everyone: readers, commentors (which has been lively and intelligent), judges, and especially you Mark.



Phil

I'm going into the pageant business! Nice.

I'm going into the pageant business! Nice.

Hey Beth,

Wow. I never thought of myself as being all that post-modern, but thanks.

John O Bro,

Thank you. Encouragement is cool when we scrape our knees along the path. ;-)

Julie,

This feels like a synchroblog event. Cool. As always - you ripped it up. I'm going to think social change and spirit empowerment when I eat chocolate from now on.

Julie,


This feels like a synchroblog event. Cool. As always - you ripped it up. I'm going to think social change and spirit empowerment when I eat chocolate from now on.