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8 months ago
in The Hard Facts About the Second Life® Economy on Gwyn's Home
ummm Ashcroft I'd love to take credit for the ink/car correction but it was not me, I believe it was IYan Writer?
That confused me too I would have thought that Tier and Classifieds were very much the ink...
As well as saturation Gwen, the way the music Industry is set up in here, with the American tipping model,( the main way most average musicians get money, very few musicians get a set fee) and because there is still probably only 20% of people who even know about live music in SL (based on a 2007 survey) and where to find it...second life starts out for musicians as a "look see" venture.
If you are a RL professional musician, with Cd's to sell, and you've already been on myspace, itunes, cd baby ect...you enter SL hoping to to expand your fan base, you hope that you will reach people that you would never get to reach normally, through those other avenues. To start with If you are really talented people will flock to your gigs across the grid when word of mouth gets around about you, and initially you get really good tips, people are encouraging you and they like to tip when you are starting out. But what Ive observed is after about 6 months as an artist you will reach some level of saturation level, the numbers start to drop away and the money in the form of tips and constant work starts to drop away.Saturation is the reason for this.
In RL musicians play their home town with a changing audience, they get paid a fee, and if they are smart will sell their CD's at their gigs, there might be a few regulars that come back every show you do but mostly there are new people seeing you all the time if the venue is popular, and you change nights ect.. You might play 3 different venues or more. The other way to spread your fan base and sell Cd's is to tour meaning a new audience every night. And of course Web.2 applications.
In SL with the small audience we have at only 20% of people knowing about Live Music (that figure may have gone up a little in the last year due to some extra promotion on showcase and Phillip Lindon mentioning it in interviews now.) You don't get the same influx of new listeners, its the same live music fans coming every week, and after while no matter how talented you are, they stop comming...they've seen you they love you but.....also there is the guilt phenomena, the public after a while stop comming to your gig because they are feeling the pinch financially as we are all now, and don't feel right going to see you and not tipping, so they stay away...
As far as money goes, if you work 8 gigs a week to those same old fans with a few new fans every week, you can earn a reasonable living in SL but only as a soloist, the more members of your band join you the less you earn, people have a finite amount for tipping and fees, and the tips and fee then have to be split more ways, audience members don't tip per band member :) I get the same tips for my trio (3 members) as for a duo..I charge more for a larger band if Im getting a fee, as it has to be split 3 ways as I would in Real Life. Some musicians multi stream together and do work together but they know that unless they attract an extra big crowd which some do they will only get half the money. Most venue owners in Second Life have never booked a band in real life and they don't understand that on a certain level you pay more money for a bigger band. Venue owners in second life are financially strapped with many of them paying out of their own pockets and getting little or no income at all for putting on bands, and they find it very hard to come up with the extra money to pay a fee for a larger band. So most soloists get the same money as a duo or trio.
After about 6 months the professional musician has then sold all the Albums he is going to sell in world to his fans, if the audience numbers don't increase he sells less and less each month. Its like playing the same small town night after night living on tips and cd sales. The musician after 6 months is either working like a dog for little tips that reduce over time when the same fans lose their enthusiasm for encouraging you and you become and "old hand". And while there's a steady influx of new musicians comming in and SL attracts more professional musicians, you start to lose your shine and get discouraged by the demand reducing for your services. If a Venue or Mall wants to draw a large crowd they will use whoever is drawing the biggest crowds at the time, if they can, and although you may be absolutely brilliant, because your not getting new audiences and your crowds are getting smaller and smaller, you as a musician have lost your value. So you quit, leave SL, take a break come back. And when you do
there is another Musician starting up, killing the scene for you with his/her fabulousness
The other problem is this while SL is a potentially huge market, you could try to break into new markets, say a foreign market in SL. Most SL gigs are played with Americans in mind, its mostly american musicians who play, and getting gigs in other countries sims isn't easy if you don't know anyone. Also Its only Americans who tip, and now most venues as of this year are tip only venues, and if the foreign venue won't pay you a fee, the problem is that other nationalities don't tip as a rule its not part of their culture, so a Musician might play a new market just to try and sell some mp3's but they certainly won't make nearly as many tips. So there is a huge untapped market out there of non Americans who don't get to see live music unless they stay awake for the American time zone. And most don't and therefor there is not culture for it in foreign markets in SL. Some of the Non American venue owners try to get musicians to play their time zone, but unless they pay a fee, The musicians don't want to do it, because its hard work when you don't speak the language and the audience don't tip. Australians don't tip either, which is why I don't play for Aussies much at all.
So while there is publicity about Musicians in SL and more Professional Musicians come into SL to see what its like, and wonder will they sell C'd's like on Cd Baby Myspace? they find when they get here after a while the money isn't sustainable they sell a good number of CD's initially, (but no where near as CD Baby) but there is not enough of an audience and not enough of a new audience to keep going.
Publicity accross all nationalities on the grid is one of the main problems and a different pay structure and some idea of how you might use a popular musician.
Musicians don't advertise in Classifieds which is the main advertising structure in SL. Some music venues are mentioned in Showcase now. But lots of non english speaking nations don't look at events don't know how they work and don't know what and how live music works.
They join their own community groups and will often stay within their own communitys very much like Australians do also, even though we all speak english. There is almost a Getto like structure happening. Also there are some live music venues now using bots to try and make it look as if the venue is really popular, non live music venues have been using bots for a long time, but I think you would find that most musicians if they ever got wind of the fact that the live venue was 1/2 full of bots would refuse to play there on principle, its embarrassing, like playing to a crowd of cardboard cut outs..
Running a SL buisness which uses a venue with LIve musicians to bring in a crowd to sell your product, is a very difficult thing to balance, most mall owners are not good music venue people and vice versa. And if they were, they would have more money to pay musicians a fee, but with the saturation of the market and no new audience.....they are now competing with 30 gigs in the 7pm slt time slot, not 10 as it used to be in 2006.
regards Paisley
That confused me too I would have thought that Tier and Classifieds were very much the ink...
As well as saturation Gwen, the way the music Industry is set up in here, with the American tipping model,( the main way most average musicians get money, very few musicians get a set fee) and because there is still probably only 20% of people who even know about live music in SL (based on a 2007 survey) and where to find it...second life starts out for musicians as a "look see" venture.
If you are a RL professional musician, with Cd's to sell, and you've already been on myspace, itunes, cd baby ect...you enter SL hoping to to expand your fan base, you hope that you will reach people that you would never get to reach normally, through those other avenues. To start with If you are really talented people will flock to your gigs across the grid when word of mouth gets around about you, and initially you get really good tips, people are encouraging you and they like to tip when you are starting out. But what Ive observed is after about 6 months as an artist you will reach some level of saturation level, the numbers start to drop away and the money in the form of tips and constant work starts to drop away.Saturation is the reason for this.
In RL musicians play their home town with a changing audience, they get paid a fee, and if they are smart will sell their CD's at their gigs, there might be a few regulars that come back every show you do but mostly there are new people seeing you all the time if the venue is popular, and you change nights ect.. You might play 3 different venues or more. The other way to spread your fan base and sell Cd's is to tour meaning a new audience every night. And of course Web.2 applications.
In SL with the small audience we have at only 20% of people knowing about Live Music (that figure may have gone up a little in the last year due to some extra promotion on showcase and Phillip Lindon mentioning it in interviews now.) You don't get the same influx of new listeners, its the same live music fans coming every week, and after while no matter how talented you are, they stop comming...they've seen you they love you but.....also there is the guilt phenomena, the public after a while stop comming to your gig because they are feeling the pinch financially as we are all now, and don't feel right going to see you and not tipping, so they stay away...
As far as money goes, if you work 8 gigs a week to those same old fans with a few new fans every week, you can earn a reasonable living in SL but only as a soloist, the more members of your band join you the less you earn, people have a finite amount for tipping and fees, and the tips and fee then have to be split more ways, audience members don't tip per band member :) I get the same tips for my trio (3 members) as for a duo..I charge more for a larger band if Im getting a fee, as it has to be split 3 ways as I would in Real Life. Some musicians multi stream together and do work together but they know that unless they attract an extra big crowd which some do they will only get half the money. Most venue owners in Second Life have never booked a band in real life and they don't understand that on a certain level you pay more money for a bigger band. Venue owners in second life are financially strapped with many of them paying out of their own pockets and getting little or no income at all for putting on bands, and they find it very hard to come up with the extra money to pay a fee for a larger band. So most soloists get the same money as a duo or trio.
After about 6 months the professional musician has then sold all the Albums he is going to sell in world to his fans, if the audience numbers don't increase he sells less and less each month. Its like playing the same small town night after night living on tips and cd sales. The musician after 6 months is either working like a dog for little tips that reduce over time when the same fans lose their enthusiasm for encouraging you and you become and "old hand". And while there's a steady influx of new musicians comming in and SL attracts more professional musicians, you start to lose your shine and get discouraged by the demand reducing for your services. If a Venue or Mall wants to draw a large crowd they will use whoever is drawing the biggest crowds at the time, if they can, and although you may be absolutely brilliant, because your not getting new audiences and your crowds are getting smaller and smaller, you as a musician have lost your value. So you quit, leave SL, take a break come back. And when you do
there is another Musician starting up, killing the scene for you with his/her fabulousness
The other problem is this while SL is a potentially huge market, you could try to break into new markets, say a foreign market in SL. Most SL gigs are played with Americans in mind, its mostly american musicians who play, and getting gigs in other countries sims isn't easy if you don't know anyone. Also Its only Americans who tip, and now most venues as of this year are tip only venues, and if the foreign venue won't pay you a fee, the problem is that other nationalities don't tip as a rule its not part of their culture, so a Musician might play a new market just to try and sell some mp3's but they certainly won't make nearly as many tips. So there is a huge untapped market out there of non Americans who don't get to see live music unless they stay awake for the American time zone. And most don't and therefor there is not culture for it in foreign markets in SL. Some of the Non American venue owners try to get musicians to play their time zone, but unless they pay a fee, The musicians don't want to do it, because its hard work when you don't speak the language and the audience don't tip. Australians don't tip either, which is why I don't play for Aussies much at all.
So while there is publicity about Musicians in SL and more Professional Musicians come into SL to see what its like, and wonder will they sell C'd's like on Cd Baby Myspace? they find when they get here after a while the money isn't sustainable they sell a good number of CD's initially, (but no where near as CD Baby) but there is not enough of an audience and not enough of a new audience to keep going.
Publicity accross all nationalities on the grid is one of the main problems and a different pay structure and some idea of how you might use a popular musician.
Musicians don't advertise in Classifieds which is the main advertising structure in SL. Some music venues are mentioned in Showcase now. But lots of non english speaking nations don't look at events don't know how they work and don't know what and how live music works.
They join their own community groups and will often stay within their own communitys very much like Australians do also, even though we all speak english. There is almost a Getto like structure happening. Also there are some live music venues now using bots to try and make it look as if the venue is really popular, non live music venues have been using bots for a long time, but I think you would find that most musicians if they ever got wind of the fact that the live venue was 1/2 full of bots would refuse to play there on principle, its embarrassing, like playing to a crowd of cardboard cut outs..
Running a SL buisness which uses a venue with LIve musicians to bring in a crowd to sell your product, is a very difficult thing to balance, most mall owners are not good music venue people and vice versa. And if they were, they would have more money to pay musicians a fee, but with the saturation of the market and no new audience.....they are now competing with 30 gigs in the 7pm slt time slot, not 10 as it used to be in 2006.
regards Paisley
8 months ago
in The Hard Facts About the Second Life® Economy on Gwyn's Home
Gwen... took me a few hours on and off to get through it all, but your overall idea is what I've been saying about the Live Music scene in SL on my blog, and what Ive noticed even in the relatively short time I've been here, nearly 2 years..The amount of gigs being played in Prime time has gone through the roof! the influx of musicians both non professional and professional has gone up, the market is saturated! but the Audience numbers has not increased by comparison. So not only are the audience numbers not rising, the Tips for Musicians are going down accross the board, with a few Musicians still getting good tips but they are playing a lot less ....I see that the usual top earning Musicians that used to play 8 times a week or more are playing a lot less!
Mass media is also picking up with new magazines coming on the scene everyday trying to get a share of the advertising dollar and the readers, but how many people are reading them or the blogs....And these are the places that your content providors will be looking to advertise...but the numbers of people reading those mags and blogs is no where near what the Lindens can provide with Classifieds.
Have a look at Classifieds the competition to get on that front page is so big the cost of the advertising on Classifieds is ridiculous if you want top ranking.
Don't forget the lIndens get money for Classies as well and the competition for top ranking serves them well.
Paisley
Mass media is also picking up with new magazines coming on the scene everyday trying to get a share of the advertising dollar and the readers, but how many people are reading them or the blogs....And these are the places that your content providors will be looking to advertise...but the numbers of people reading those mags and blogs is no where near what the Lindens can provide with Classifieds.
Have a look at Classifieds the competition to get on that front page is so big the cost of the advertising on Classifieds is ridiculous if you want top ranking.
Don't forget the lIndens get money for Classies as well and the competition for top ranking serves them well.
Paisley
9 months ago
in The growing secrecy on The Metaverse Journal
Lowel, also add to that list that list, they set up a press group in SL called the "Second Life Media consortium" which Im still a member, hoping desperately every day for ONE little notice or even an IM!!! from it?? ........there was one press call on that group, that I remember and that was probably well over 6 months ago and then .......nothing...also now you have to go through the PR dept to request an interview with a Linden, Torley is probably the only exception...so its really hard for the "press" to get any access either.
Paisley Beebe
Host of Tonight Live
www.slcn.tv
Paisley Beebe
Host of Tonight Live
www.slcn.tv
1 year ago
in The Sound of Music on Gwyn's Home
An interesting blog Gwyneth, I've been trying to get a SL sponsor actually haven't tried very hard..but its an idea Ive been toying with , as it costs me more money to play live music in SL than I get paid as I pay my band RL money..I play music in SL primarily to get a hearing as I usually come out in the Red...
However its not really as rosy as you paint yet on SL, speaking as a performer. yes my mp3 sales have increased... as opposed to very little, its more than that, (just a little) as it has for a lot of SL musicians, but its still a struggle for most of us in these early days, I think it will improve somewhat as the general population of SL finds out that there is some really cool live music to be had here on SL, the numbers at most concerts in SL have been dropping, as the general population of SL doesn't know about live music, but the influx of musicians grows, the problem is lack of publicity about Live music in SL, still only such a small population knows about live music in SL and with so many different countries logging into SL and most live acts booked in an U.S friendly time zone...(as they are the biggest population of users)...its hard to get to the other 80% of the SL population that don't come to concerts. Also there is much debate over free concerts verses paid ones... Music is still one of the only services that the consumer does not have to pay for in SL most concerts are free for the audience the Venue either pay the Musician or the musician basically busks and hopes for tips...we have a long way to go before SL becomes a haven for underpaid and under-appreciated musicians. Don't forget you may get paid 500 Euro's for a gig but that might be only once a month.....its not comparable to a sucessfull buisness in SL yet....In my field of Jazz in Australia most musicians make most of their money from Live appearances in RL, their Albums are a way of getting publicity and gaining fans... not money...the live gigs pay their rent, if they are lucky, the Albums cost more to make usually than they make back...and I believe that this is the case for many musicians not just jazz musos these days. Thanks for giving us the history lesson :) I think you are damn right, problem is that the skill to make incredible music is sooo undervalued these days that many people won't pay for it...one wonders why its not valued as much as other great art is? its not because everyone can make music...every one can sorta, but then everyone can paint...but not all can paint pictures that sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars...
If one is to act as a Patron of a Musician one must get something for it, weather its Kudos, prestige or advertising, but like many other things, unless the population is there to see that advertising its not worth it...and the live music population is small, even if there are hundreds of gigs on a day, they are most likely the same 500 avis cruising around the grid to the same concerts...not a big population to advertise too...get more people to know about live music on SL and a lot of problems would be solved, the usual avenues to advertise live music are lacking in SL, RL advertising and publicity is still much more effective than SL publicity and Advertising. It will change but slowly.
Paisley
However its not really as rosy as you paint yet on SL, speaking as a performer. yes my mp3 sales have increased... as opposed to very little, its more than that, (just a little) as it has for a lot of SL musicians, but its still a struggle for most of us in these early days, I think it will improve somewhat as the general population of SL finds out that there is some really cool live music to be had here on SL, the numbers at most concerts in SL have been dropping, as the general population of SL doesn't know about live music, but the influx of musicians grows, the problem is lack of publicity about Live music in SL, still only such a small population knows about live music in SL and with so many different countries logging into SL and most live acts booked in an U.S friendly time zone...(as they are the biggest population of users)...its hard to get to the other 80% of the SL population that don't come to concerts. Also there is much debate over free concerts verses paid ones... Music is still one of the only services that the consumer does not have to pay for in SL most concerts are free for the audience the Venue either pay the Musician or the musician basically busks and hopes for tips...we have a long way to go before SL becomes a haven for underpaid and under-appreciated musicians. Don't forget you may get paid 500 Euro's for a gig but that might be only once a month.....its not comparable to a sucessfull buisness in SL yet....In my field of Jazz in Australia most musicians make most of their money from Live appearances in RL, their Albums are a way of getting publicity and gaining fans... not money...the live gigs pay their rent, if they are lucky, the Albums cost more to make usually than they make back...and I believe that this is the case for many musicians not just jazz musos these days. Thanks for giving us the history lesson :) I think you are damn right, problem is that the skill to make incredible music is sooo undervalued these days that many people won't pay for it...one wonders why its not valued as much as other great art is? its not because everyone can make music...every one can sorta, but then everyone can paint...but not all can paint pictures that sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars...
If one is to act as a Patron of a Musician one must get something for it, weather its Kudos, prestige or advertising, but like many other things, unless the population is there to see that advertising its not worth it...and the live music population is small, even if there are hundreds of gigs on a day, they are most likely the same 500 avis cruising around the grid to the same concerts...not a big population to advertise too...get more people to know about live music on SL and a lot of problems would be solved, the usual avenues to advertise live music are lacking in SL, RL advertising and publicity is still much more effective than SL publicity and Advertising. It will change but slowly.
Paisley
1 year ago
in The ABC in Second Life: are the monkeys running the zoo? on The Metaverse Journal
Hi Wolfie thanks for that, I know you don't work for the ABC but you work with them I think....My point got a bit lost, yes its all pioneering ect..but there are many many people in SL involved in media now, that the ABC could actually learn from and I don't mean, just SLCN.TV staff ect..The ABC do not have to come in and reinvent the wheel..And I was not reffering to the professional presenters that I thought were bad, the presenter I was reffering to had newbie hair skin and clothes, and spoke to the audience on camera with all sort of instructions ect like a school marm..she just wasn't professional at all or even a good amature...you can't go on SL in any sort of representative capacity like that, and talk to the audience like a school assembly on camera...(I won't mention any names )....As a Presenter you also should know about SL etiquette and standards ... A lot of other companies in SL they use a consultant when they come in so they don't have to start from scratch...and sound issues are the bane of our SL broadcasting life! beleive me..anyhow its all mute as they aren't doing those shows anymore the idea was great! but they should have got some advice there's plenty around...
Paisley
Paisley
1 year ago
in The ABC in Second Life: are the monkeys running the zoo? on The Metaverse Journal
Question...Wolfie, why are ABC in SL? Toe in the water? some excess funding came through to use on a wacky idea?
One day when the aussie population in SL is comparable to perhaps a local radio station reach..perhaps its worth marketing to them...right now with only 14,000 aussies many of whom are alts, and not regular users...its not going to work all that well.
I was told by Lise in my interview with her, it was toe in the water, test it out, and yes they wanted to extend their reach internationally, problem is, due to their restrictions and legal boundaries, they can't use any of the things allready set up in SL to bring the population to the island, ie allready established acts ect..or bring their content to the international population through streaming...
I saw the footage of the talks that were held on the island with CSIRO ect..., and the presentation was woeful....for a National Broadcaster to present a show like like that, either use professional presenters who are in SL allready who know how to present in SL, or use your professional ABC presenters to do it, and get them trained up in how to present in SL, don't to it half arsed...it really was very amateur.. I love the ABC, Im an ABC fan but I nearly curled up under my chair watching those presentations, so embarrassing....the guests were fine, but SL residents, at least long term ones, have certain standards they expect from people who put themselves up in the public eye, on SL, they can spot a newbie part time SL avi a mile away, who doesn't know the lingo, doesn't know how SL culture works. It seems to me that ABC arn't really immersing themselves enough, I know they have a great resource in Wolfie and some others that are fully immersed, are they actually listening? Its a waste of our Tax dollars not to do it properly and do your homework. You cannot come into a small town and plonk yourself down put up a shingle and say we are here for you, we don't speak your language and we don't care, now why arn't you flocking to our business we know what you want!
Seems like someone threw some money at the Dept that Lise is running and its all a bit of a lark...ABC do your homework know the Law, and do some training, SL is not RL!
Paisley
www.slcn.tv/tonight-live-paisley-beebe
One day when the aussie population in SL is comparable to perhaps a local radio station reach..perhaps its worth marketing to them...right now with only 14,000 aussies many of whom are alts, and not regular users...its not going to work all that well.
I was told by Lise in my interview with her, it was toe in the water, test it out, and yes they wanted to extend their reach internationally, problem is, due to their restrictions and legal boundaries, they can't use any of the things allready set up in SL to bring the population to the island, ie allready established acts ect..or bring their content to the international population through streaming...
I saw the footage of the talks that were held on the island with CSIRO ect..., and the presentation was woeful....for a National Broadcaster to present a show like like that, either use professional presenters who are in SL allready who know how to present in SL, or use your professional ABC presenters to do it, and get them trained up in how to present in SL, don't to it half arsed...it really was very amateur.. I love the ABC, Im an ABC fan but I nearly curled up under my chair watching those presentations, so embarrassing....the guests were fine, but SL residents, at least long term ones, have certain standards they expect from people who put themselves up in the public eye, on SL, they can spot a newbie part time SL avi a mile away, who doesn't know the lingo, doesn't know how SL culture works. It seems to me that ABC arn't really immersing themselves enough, I know they have a great resource in Wolfie and some others that are fully immersed, are they actually listening? Its a waste of our Tax dollars not to do it properly and do your homework. You cannot come into a small town and plonk yourself down put up a shingle and say we are here for you, we don't speak your language and we don't care, now why arn't you flocking to our business we know what you want!
Seems like someone threw some money at the Dept that Lise is running and its all a bit of a lark...ABC do your homework know the Law, and do some training, SL is not RL!
Paisley
www.slcn.tv/tonight-live-paisley-beebe
1 year ago
in Torley visits the Apple Store on Torley Lives
Wow Torley I can't believe you own a Mac Book Pro and never been in a store well either thats probably that youve allways bought online or you've never had to get a repair which is great. Do you use your Mac Book Pro for your windlight pics? and how does it all run for you on Mac? In Australia we have verrrry slow internet by comparison and the Govt, (our shiney new Govt) promise we will be getting super fast internet sooon, Im hoping that it will improve my experience on SL with my Mac book Pro. I love the MBP keyboard too, I had a bluetooth apple keyboard but it Clacks too much :) (too noisy) and as I don't want a clacky keyboard when Im recording my show, I find the MBP keyboard nice a quiet? is the new keyboard you bought a similer experience :)
oh and ...one more question, is your monitor conected to your MBP or is that a seperate system, I want to get a larger monitor for my MBP...not sure if its worth it :)
regards Paisley
oh and ...one more question, is your monitor conected to your MBP or is that a seperate system, I want to get a larger monitor for my MBP...not sure if its worth it :)
regards Paisley
1 year ago
in Australians in Second Life Update - stagnant as she goes on The Metaverse Journal
wow thats even less than I thought...I thought it was around 15K at one stage..I interviewed a musician from Portugal yesterday on my show and he stated that there was around 30 thousand Portuguese on SL which is a very small country..
I did her a rumor once that Telstra were going to do a deal with the Lindens and put a server here. I really don't think it lagg so much...as lack of awareness and population of people who use the web and gammers ect...perhaps we as a nation don't use these things as much. There has been a bit of information and press about SL but its usually the same old same old, cyper sex ect...not a lot of intelligent well informed press about how you can use SL other than that..SL is just not on the Australian map so to speak...the aussies will be left behind as usuall with these things, the only sucessfull early adopters here in SL are Bigpond and the Virtual TV industry which we have cracked.
We have some great people in Australia using SL for educational purposes and a few very sucessfull musicians. Is there a list anywhere of Australian Buisnesses in SL? love to see it
Paisley Beebe host of Toninght Live on www.slcn.tv
I did her a rumor once that Telstra were going to do a deal with the Lindens and put a server here. I really don't think it lagg so much...as lack of awareness and population of people who use the web and gammers ect...perhaps we as a nation don't use these things as much. There has been a bit of information and press about SL but its usually the same old same old, cyper sex ect...not a lot of intelligent well informed press about how you can use SL other than that..SL is just not on the Australian map so to speak...the aussies will be left behind as usuall with these things, the only sucessfull early adopters here in SL are Bigpond and the Virtual TV industry which we have cracked.
We have some great people in Australia using SL for educational purposes and a few very sucessfull musicians. Is there a list anywhere of Australian Buisnesses in SL? love to see it
Paisley Beebe host of Toninght Live on www.slcn.tv
