DISQUS

Veterans For Peace are really the Vietnam Veterans Against the War from the 60's but they are so despised by other veterans they have to hide under the VFP rock like the cockroaches they are.

Teresa, Byrd was active in the Klan, a recruiter, during the 40's and 50's. And the guy who let loose the dogs and fire hoses on black people was a SUPER DEMOCRAT, Bull Connor.

Bull Connor was a Super Delegate to the Democrat convention and organized the walkoout at the Dem's convention in Philadelphia because someone has tried to even put a civil rights plank in the Dem platform

And Teresa, all of the racist Dixiecrats went back to being racist Democrats except for one wo decades later left the racist Democrat party for the GOP.

Read any book on Dixiecrats and you'll find out that's all true.

raouldeming@hotmail.com

Hey Swaim, read Kerry's Senate testimony. He smeared all the Vietnam Vets on film and in the Congressional record.

And Kerry is a liar. He claimed Nixon sent him to Cambodia on Xmas Day, yet he was never in Vietnam while Nixon was President. Kerry lied. He wasn't smeared.

And Kerry never reported the murder plot. Yeah, I want to vote for a guy who keeps his mouth shut as people plan mass murder. That's something to be proud of Kerry. Again, that's all based on what Kerry said and he lied about Cambodia, so why would he tell the truth about his ties to a murder plot, one he didn't take to the police. That's something an innocent man would do.

LOL Bill, you never claimed to be an expert, yet you pontifcated with such smugness about it. And still do.

Again, Kokesh was thrown out of the Marines and given a General Discharge. For bringing a gun back in violation of regulations.

It was the police on campus that charged Kokesh with three felonies (subsequently plead down to a misdomeaner), as the result of him taking the gun on campus and having it stolen.

The guy's a screw up and the Marines cut him a break by not giving him an Other Than Honorable. Likewise the judge cut him a break too.

But the guy keeps screwing up.

Yeah, you're not googling or calling, but you corrected the college name to Claremont. Psychic powers or just a psychotic liar?

Pat Alviso is working with the IVAW who smear the troops as war criminals, yet her son is exempt from those charges? Yeah right, we'll fix that.

Don’t take my word for any of the information below unless you already know through your experience that it‘s true, or you verify it for yourself.

Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are ESPECIALLY IF YOU READ THEIR OWN WEBSITES.

Iraq Veterans Against the War are mentored by and modeled after the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who smeared their own generation of veterans via a lie called the “Winter Soldier Investigation”. That was 109 “interviews” that were compiled to make a book and a movie documenting wide spread war crimes that they claimed every soldier serving participated in or covered up.

A book called “Stolen Valor” examined the records of those “veterans” and found many were phony soldiers that never served. Others served, but never in Vietnam. Others that served in Vietnam were shown to be liars.

What did they have in common? They lied about their fellow Vietnam veterans and they were members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. They are the primary cause of labeling the veterans of that era “baby killers”.

They are so reviled that they hide their association with VVAW and call themselves “Veterans For Peace”. Elliot Adams, David Cline, etc leading VFP figures are VVAW leaders. Do the math, VFP=VVAW with a few wannabes who missed the 60’s thrown in.

MFSO? What a joke. Their name was cynically and deliberately chosen to steal the goodwill, respect and gratitude the public feels for our troops and use it for their purposes. MFSO’s leaders, radicals Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessin both told a conference of “anti-war” (really anti-America) leaders that the left had no credibility, so they needed to have military families and better yet military members front their cause.

There’s a lot of ways I can prove that MFSO is NOT the kind of military family you think of when someone says, “military” families. But the best example is 100 members of MFSO at Walter Reed Army hospital PROTESTING!

Not only were they protesting at Walter Reed, don’t let them BS you about how they care. Those people put FUNERAL WREATHS in front of the Walter Reed sign and out of the 100 MFSO members, not one carried an America flag or had a American flag pin on.

MFSO and VFP continues to sponsor a two hour protest every Friday night at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Let me tell you what I heard from three wounded Soldiers about what they thought of MFSO and their “Enlist Here and Die For Halliburton” and “Maimed For A Lie” signs as those wounded laid on a stretcher and looked out of the ambulance bus at MFSO. All three, who do not know each other, said the EXACT same thing, “I don’t need this S**T.”

Thank God Long Beach stood up for our veterans and keep these hate groups out of the parade.

Also, David Cline (VVAW) is the person who brought together these fake patriotic sounding groups, IVAW, VFP and MFSO. When you look at the incestuous leadership of these groups, you’ll see it’s a Potamkin Village.

Again, I recommend that you Google these “peace groups” as they are forming new front groups all the time, but it’s the usual suspects in charge.

However, if you’re looking for a good deal on a Che shirt, go to the biggest peace group, internationalanswer.org. ANSWER is the front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, pslweb.org.

IVAW, VFP and MFSO gladly allow themselves to be used. All have been the lead group in ANSWER marches.

And ANSWER has handed out a flyer that asks the “Anti-war movement” to give the “resistance” in Iraq “unconditional support”. Unconditional is just that “unconditional”. They don’t ask the other side to stop. And when they kill American troops, they you’re supposed to support that too. UNCONDITIONALLY.

Google “Counter-revolution & Resistance In Iraq” and read the last paragraph.

IVAW’s Chairman, Camilo Mejia, was on DemocracyNow.org on August 27th and during the interview revealed that he was born in Nicaragua, that his parents were big shots in the Sandinista revolution and that he’s a Marxist Sandinista too. Don’t believe me on that, hit the library and read Chapter One of his book. And oh yeah, Mejia skipped out on his service and did time in jail for that. This guy is who IVAW elected as their leader.

Number Two at IVAW is a guy who got thrown out of the USMC and told, “Don’t Come Back”. Adam Kokesh bought a Saturday Night Special from an Iraqi policeman. That he was in Civil Affairs and there to teach and establish the rule of law, well….

You’re told what you can and can not bring back from deployment and weapons are a BIG career ending no-no.

So he brings it back and takes it on campus and it’s stolen from his vehicle. Campus Police investigate and he’s facing three felonies, which get plea bargained to disturbing the peace.

Sorry that I don’t have a very reliable source on that, as I’m just reporting what Adam Kokesh told RadarOnLine in an interview.

Again, Google is a great way to raise your consciouness of these groups.

The most important point. Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are all involved in the attempt to smear this generation of military serving, the way their Vietnam Veterans Against the War smeared the 60s veterans.

Like “Winter Soldier”, there is a “documentary” in the works called “Collateral Damage”.

Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are the bulk of the 50 interviews in “Collateral Damage”.

And the fact that the daughter of convicted terrorist supporter Sami al-Arian is involved, well that’s just a bonus.

Another reason to doubt IVAW. Jesse Macbeth was a member of IVAW. MacBeth was a phony Soldier. He never made it past recruit. Yet he marched with IVAW and even carried their banner. MacBeth lied. MacBeth said that his unit laid in wait at a mosque until the worshiperss were in prayers, slaughtered them, burned their bodies and hung the bodies from the rafters. And don’t let IVAW BS that MacBeth wasn’t a member. IVAW staffer Braxton was able to respond to inquiries and provide investigative journalists MacBeth’s discharge form. Jesse MacBeth was given a trial and convicted on his phony soldier claims.

There is another IVAW member who claims war crimes, but believe it ofr not a reporter embedded in the IVAW’s members unit came to the defense of the troops and disputed the IVAW claims.

IVAW and VFP are both endorsers of the World Tribunal on Iraq. Basically the Hate America crowd, here and abroad, held a series of intenational show trials with America and our military in the dock. IVAW’s Tim Goodrich testified to Army war crimes according to their reports. In the end, America was found guilty and they issued a “declaration” which among other things declared that the armed resistance is entitled to “certain acts of desperation” against the brutal occupier and that such acts were legitimate and justified under the UN Charter and international law. If it’s not clear what are “certain acts of desperation” by the “resistance”, search YouTube.com for “Iraq resistance” and “Iraqi resistance” and you see clearly that it is our troops getting killed. What Veterans’ “peace group” endorses such madness in the name of peace?

Bottom line, these people ARE anti-American. They are Vietnam protest re-enactors on a grand scale. And like the Vietnam era protesters who helped form and now guide them, it’s not enough for them that the war is wrong, it’s not enough for them that America is wrong, the troops have to be wrong too.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
raouldeming@hotmail.com

Adam,

Saturday Night Special is not a homemade gun as you state. It's a cheap gun. Typically sold in unregulated transactions.

A homemade gun is called a "zip gun".

In the post Coumbine, Virginia Tech environment, Kokesh's breaking the law and sheer stupidity resulted a gun in the hands of a criminal on a college campus.

Given Clark McKenna Campus Police a call. Ask what the three felonies were.

And as far as your straw man about it being a supply problem, I seriously doubt Kokesh was authorized a sidearm.

Your lack of basic knowledge on this topic is staggering.

Adam,

http://www.radaronline.com/features/2007/06/ada...

"But in February 2006, two days before he was to be deployed on his second tour, he was told by his commanding officer that he was under investigation for bringing back a pistol he had purchased from an Iraqi policeman. His car had been broken into on campus and the pistol was missing. He was charged with three felonies, but accepted a plea bargain for disturbing the peace—a misdemeanor—and his case was passed along to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. After an eight-month investigation, he was demoted from sergeant to corporal and given an honorary discharge."

If these people want a parade, organize one and stop being a leech.

Why do they get to do all the work and these people waltz in and demand anything?

Because they are socialists with an exaggerated sense of entitlement.

Don’t take my word for any of the information below unless you already know through your experience that it‘s true, or you verify it for yourself.

Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are ESPECIALLY IF YOU READ THEIR OWN WEBSITES.

Iraq Veterans Against the War are mentored by and modeled after the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who smeared their own generation of veterans via a lie called the “Winter Soldier Investigation”. That was 109 “interviews” that were compiled to make a book and a movie documenting wide spread war crimes that they claimed every soldier serving participated in or covered up.

A book called “Stolen Valor” examined the records of those “veterans” and found many were phony soldiers that never served. Others served, but never in Vietnam. Others that served in Vietnam were shown to be liars.

What did they have in common? They lied about their fellow Vietnam veterans and they were members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. They are the primary cause of labeling the veterans of that era “baby killers”.

They are so reviled that they hide their association with VVAW and call themselves “Veterans For Peace”. Elliot Adams, David Cline, etc leading VFP figures are VVAW leaders. Do the math, VFP=VVAW with a few wannabes who missed the 60’s thrown in.

MFSO? What a joke. Their name was cynically and deliberately chosen to steal the goodwill, respect and gratitude the public feels for our troops and use it for their purposes. MFSO’s leaders, radicals Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessin both told a conference of “anti-war” (really anti-America) leaders that the left had no credibility, so they needed to have military families and better yet military members front their cause.

There’s a lot of ways I can prove that MFSO is NOT the kind of military family you think of when someone says, “military” families. But the best example is 100 members of MFSO at Walter Reed Army hospital PROTESTING!

Not only were they protesting at Walter Reed, don’t let them BS you about how they care. Those people put FUNERAL WREATHS in front of the Walter Reed sign and out of the 100 MFSO members, not one carried an America flag or had a American flag pin on.

MFSO and VFP continues to sponsor a two hour protest every Friday night at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Let me tell you what I heard from three wounded Soldiers about what they thought of MFSO and their “Enlist Here and Die For Halliburton” and “Maimed For A Lie” signs as those wounded laid on a stretcher and looked out of the ambulance bus at MFSO. All three, who do not know each other, said the EXACT same thing, “I don’t need this S**T.”

Thank God Long Beach stood up for our veterans and keep these hate groups out of the parade.

Also, David Cline (VVAW) is the person who brought together these fake patriotic sounding groups, IVAW, VFP and MFSO. When you look at the incestuous leadership of these groups, you’ll see it’s a Potamkin Village.

Again, I recommend that you Google these “peace groups” as they are forming new front groups all the time, but it’s the usual suspects in charge.

However, if you’re looking for a good deal on a Che shirt, go to the biggest peace group, internationalanswer.org. ANSWER is the front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, pslweb.org.

IVAW, VFP and MFSO gladly allow themselves to be used. All have been the lead group in ANSWER marches.

And ANSWER has handed out a flyer that asks the “Anti-war movement” to give the “resistance” in Iraq “unconditional support”. Unconditional is just that “unconditional”. They don’t ask the other side to stop. And when they kill American troops, they you’re supposed to support that too. UNCONDITIONALLY.

Google “Counter-revolution & Resistance In Iraq” and read the last paragraph.

IVAW’s Chairman, Camilo Mejia, was on DemocracyNow.org on August 27th and during the interview revealed that he was born in Nicaragua, that his parents were big shots in the Sandinista revolution and that he’s a Marxist Sandinista too. Don’t believe me on that, hit the library and read Chapter One of his book. And oh yeah, Mejia skipped out on his service and did time in jail for that. This guy is who IVAW elected as their leader.

Number Two at IVAW is a guy who got thrown out of the USMC and told, “Don’t Come Back”. Adam Kokesh bought a Saturday Night Special from an Iraqi policeman. That he was in Civil Affairs and there to teach and establish the rule of law, well….

You’re told what you can and can not bring back from deployment and weapons are a BIG career ending no-no.

So he brings it back and takes it on campus and it’s stolen from his vehicle. Campus Police investigate and he’s facing three felonies, which get plea bargained to disturbing the peace.

Sorry that I don’t have a very reliable source on that, as I’m just reporting what Adam Kokesh told RadarOnLine in an interview.

Again, Google is a great way to raise your consciouness of these groups.

The most important point. Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are all involved in the attempt to smear this generation of military serving, the way their Vietnam Veterans Against the War smeared the 60s veterans.

Like “Winter Soldier”, there is a “documentary” in the works called “Collateral Damage”.

Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are the bulk of the 50 interviews in “Collateral Damage”.

And the fact that the daughter of convicted terrorist supporter Sami al-Arian is involved, well that’s just a bonus.

Another reason to doubt IVAW. Jesse Macbeth was a member of IVAW. MacBeth was a phony Soldier. He never made it past recruit. Yet he marched with IVAW and even carried their banner. MacBeth lied. MacBeth said that his unit laid in wait at a mosque until the worshiperss were in prayers, slaughtered them, burned their bodies and hung the bodies from the rafters. And don’t let IVAW BS that MacBeth wasn’t a member. IVAW staffer Braxton was able to respond to inquiries and provide investigative journalists MacBeth’s discharge form. Jesse MacBeth was given a trial and convicted on his phony soldier claims.

There is another IVAW member who claims war crimes, but believe it ofr not a reporter embedded in the IVAW’s members unit came to the defense of the troops and disputed the IVAW claims.

IVAW and VFP are both endorsers of the World Tribunal on Iraq. Basically the Hate America crowd, here and abroad, held a series of intenational show trials with America and our military in the dock. IVAW’s Tim Goodrich testified to Army war crimes according to their reports. In the end, America was found guilty and they issued a “declaration” which among other things declared that the armed resistance is entitled to “certain acts of desperation” against the brutal occupier and that such acts were legitimate and justified under the UN Charter and international law. If it’s not clear what are “certain acts of desperation” by the “resistance”, search YouTube.com for “Iraq resistance” and “Iraqi resistance” and you see clearly that it is our troops getting killed. What Veterans’ “peace group” endorses such madness in the name of peace?

Bottom line, these people ARE anti-American. They are Vietnam protest re-enactors on a grand scale. And like the Vietnam era protesters who helped form and now guide them, it’s not enough for them that the war is wrong, it’s not enough for them that America is wrong, the troops have to be wrong too.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
raouldeming@hotmail.com

Don’t take my word for any of the information below unless you already know through your experience that it‘s true, or you verify it for yourself.

Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are ESPECIALLY IF YOU READ THEIR OWN WEBSITES.

Iraq Veterans Against the War are mentored by and modeled after the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who smeared their own generation of veterans via a lie called the “Winter Soldier Investigation”. That was 109 “interviews” that were compiled to make a book and a movie documenting wide spread war crimes that they claimed every soldier serving participated in or covered up.

A book called “Stolen Valor” examined the records of those “veterans” and found many were phony soldiers that never served. Others served, but never in Vietnam. Others that served in Vietnam were shown to be liars.

What did they have in common? They lied about their fellow Vietnam veterans and they were members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. They are the primary cause of labeling the veterans of that era “baby killers”.

They are so reviled that they hide their association with VVAW and call themselves “Veterans For Peace”. Elliot Adams, David Cline, etc leading VFP figures are VVAW leaders. Do the math, VFP=VVAW with a few wannabes who missed the 60’s thrown in.

MFSO? What a joke. Their name was cynically and deliberately chosen to steal the goodwill, respect and gratitude the public feels for our troops and use it for their purposes. MFSO’s leaders, radicals Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessin both told a conference of “anti-war” (really anti-America) leaders that the left had no credibility, so they needed to have military families and better yet military members front their cause.

There’s a lot of ways I can prove that MFSO is NOT the kind of military family you think of when someone says, “military” families. But the best example is 100 members of MFSO at Walter Reed Army hospital PROTESTING!

Not only were they protesting at Walter Reed, don’t let them BS you about how they care. Those people put FUNERAL WREATHS in front of the Walter Reed sign and out of the 100 MFSO members, not one carried an America flag or had a American flag pin on.

MFSO and VFP continues to sponsor a two hour protest every Friday night at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Let me tell you what I heard from three wounded Soldiers about what they thought of MFSO and their “Enlist Here and Die For Halliburton” and “Maimed For A Lie” signs as those wounded laid on a stretcher and looked out of the ambulance bus at MFSO. All three, who do not know each other, said the EXACT same thing, “I don’t need this S**T.”

Thank God Long Beach stood up for our veterans and keep these hate groups out of the parade.

Also, David Cline (VVAW) is the person who brought together these fake patriotic sounding groups, IVAW, VFP and MFSO. When you look at the incestuous leadership of these groups, you’ll see it’s a Potamkin Village.

Again, I recommend that you Google these “peace groups” as they are forming new front groups all the time, but it’s the usual suspects in charge.

However, if you’re looking for a good deal on a Che shirt, go to the biggest peace group, internationalanswer.org. ANSWER is the front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, pslweb.org.

IVAW, VFP and MFSO gladly allow themselves to be used. All have been the lead group in ANSWER marches.

And ANSWER has handed out a flyer that asks the “Anti-war movement” to give the “resistance” in Iraq “unconditional support”. Unconditional is just that “unconditional”. They don’t ask the other side to stop. And when they kill American troops, they you’re supposed to support that too. UNCONDITIONALLY.

Google “Counter-revolution & Resistance In Iraq” and read the last paragraph.

IVAW’s Chairman, Camilo Mejia, was on DemocracyNow.org on August 27th and during the interview revealed that he was born in Nicaragua, that his parents were big shots in the Sandinista revolution and that he’s a Marxist Sandinista too. Don’t believe me on that, hit the library and read Chapter One of his book. And oh yeah, Mejia skipped out on his service and did time in jail for that. This guy is who IVAW elected as their leader.

Number Two at IVAW is a guy who got thrown out of the USMC and told, “Don’t Come Back”. Adam Kokesh bought a Saturday Night Special from an Iraqi policeman. That he was in Civil Affairs and there to teach and establish the rule of law, well….

You’re told what you can and can not bring back from deployment and weapons are a BIG career ending no-no.

So he brings it back and takes it on campus and it’s stolen from his vehicle. Campus Police investigate and he’s facing three felonies, which get plea bargained to disturbing the peace.

Sorry that I don’t have a very reliable source on that, as I’m just reporting what Adam Kokesh told RadarOnLine in an interview.

Again, Google is a great way to raise your consciouness of these groups.

The most important point. Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are all involved in the attempt to smear this generation of military serving, the way their Vietnam Veterans Against the War smeared the 60s veterans.

Like “Winter Soldier”, there is a “documentary” in the works called “Collateral Damage”.

Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are the bulk of the 50 interviews in “Collateral Damage”.

And the fact that the daughter of convicted terrorist supporter Sami al-Arian is involved, well that’s just a bonus.

Another reason to doubt IVAW. Jesse Macbeth was a member of IVAW. MacBeth was a phony Soldier. He never made it past recruit. Yet he marched with IVAW and even carried their banner. MacBeth lied. MacBeth said that his unit laid in wait at a mosque until the worshiperss were in prayers, slaughtered them, burned their bodies and hung the bodies from the rafters. And don’t let IVAW BS that MacBeth wasn’t a member. IVAW staffer Braxton was able to respond to inquiries and provide investigative journalists MacBeth’s discharge form. Jesse MacBeth was given a trial and convicted on his phony soldier claims.

There is another IVAW member who claims war crimes, but believe it ofr not a reporter embedded in the IVAW’s members unit came to the defense of the troops and disputed the IVAW claims.

IVAW and VFP are both endorsers of the World Tribunal on Iraq. Basically the Hate America crowd, here and abroad, held a series of intenational show trials with America and our military in the dock. IVAW’s Tim Goodrich testified to Army war crimes according to their reports. In the end, America was found guilty and they issued a “declaration” which among other things declared that the armed resistance is entitled to “certain acts of desperation” against the brutal occupier and that such acts were legitimate and justified under the UN Charter and international law. If it’s not clear what are “certain acts of desperation” by the “resistance”, search YouTube.com for “Iraq resistance” and “Iraqi resistance” and you see clearly that it is our troops getting killed. What Veterans’ “peace group” endorses such madness in the name of peace?

Bottom line, these people ARE anti-American. They are Vietnam protest re-enactors on a grand scale. And like the Vietnam era protesters who helped form and now guide them, it’s not enough for them that the war is wrong, it’s not enough for them that America is wrong, the troops have to be wrong too.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
RaoulDeming@hotmail.com

Theo,

Benedict Arnold was a veteran.

His birthday is January 14th. I'm sure you honor him by flying the flag.

My question is, "What flag?"

The man representing Military Patriots spoke at Tuesday night’s Long Beach City Council meeting was offered a ride in the Councilman's car, but not with the protest T-shirt.

The offer was refused. That's because it's all about them, the liberal left. They can't zip it for even one day to honor veterans these self-rightous clowns.

If you want a parade to showcase you cause, run your own, don't be a leech.

These groups are always at the head of the Party For Socialism and Liberation's march, the ones organized under the phony name of ANSWER.

I think next anti-war march these clowns throw, I'll sue to let all the other veterans. TGhe veterans who don't trash America, who don't trash our troops while they are in harm's way march in their and want our people in SWA to know that these types are a distinct minority.

Don’t take my word for any of the information below unless you already know through your experience that it‘s true, or you verify it for yourself.

Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are ESPECIALLY IF YOU READ THEIR OWN WEBSITES.

Iraq Veterans Against the War are mentored by and modeled after the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who smeared their own generation of veterans via a lie called the “Winter Soldier Investigation”. That was 109 “interviews” that were compiled to make a book and a movie documenting wide spread war crimes that they claimed every soldier serving participated in or covered up.

A book called “Stolen Valor” examined the records of those “veterans” and found many were phony soldiers that never served. Others served, but never in Vietnam. Others that served in Vietnam were shown to be liars.

What did they have in common? They lied about their fellow Vietnam veterans and they were members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. They are the primary cause of labeling the veterans of that era “baby killers”.

They are so reviled that they hide their association with VVAW and call themselves “Veterans For Peace”. Elliot Adams, David Cline, etc leading VFP figures are VVAW leaders. Do the math, VFP=VVAW with a few wannabes who missed the 60’s thrown in.

MFSO? What a joke. Their name was cynically and deliberately chosen to steal the goodwill, respect and gratitude the public feels for our troops and use it for their purposes. MFSO’s leaders, radicals Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessin both told a conference of “anti-war” (really anti-America) leaders that the left had no credibility, so they needed to have military families and better yet military members front their cause.

There’s a lot of ways I can prove that MFSO is NOT the kind of military family you think of when someone says, “military” families. But the best example is 100 members of MFSO at Walter Reed Army hospital PROTESTING!

Not only were they protesting at Walter Reed, don’t let them BS you about how they care. Those people put FUNERAL WREATHS in front of the Walter Reed sign and out of the 100 MFSO members, not one carried an America flag or had a American flag pin on.

MFSO and VFP continues to sponsor a two hour protest every Friday night at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Let me tell you what I heard from three wounded Soldiers about what they thought of MFSO and their “Enlist Here and Die For Halliburton” and “Maimed For A Lie” signs as those wounded laid on a stretcher and looked out of the ambulance bus at MFSO. All three, who do not know each other, said the EXACT same thing, “I don’t need this S**T.”

Thank God Long Beach stood up for our veterans and keep these hate groups out of the parade.

Also, David Cline (VVAW) is the person who brought together these fake patriotic sounding groups, IVAW, VFP and MFSO. When you look at the incestuous leadership of these groups, you’ll see it’s a Potamkin Village.

Again, I recommend that you Google these “peace groups” as they are forming new front groups all the time, but it’s the usual suspects in charge.

However, if you’re looking for a good deal on a Che shirt, go to the biggest peace group, internationalanswer.org. ANSWER is the front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, pslweb.org.

IVAW, VFP and MFSO gladly allow themselves to be used. All have been the lead group in ANSWER marches.

And ANSWER has handed out a flyer that asks the “Anti-war movement” to give the “resistance” in Iraq “unconditional support”. Unconditional is just that “unconditional”. They don’t ask the other side to stop. And when they kill American troops, they you’re supposed to support that too. UNCONDITIONALLY.

Google “Counter-revolution & Resistance In Iraq” and read the last paragraph.

IVAW’s Chairman, Camilo Mejia, was on DemocracyNow.org on August 27th and during the interview revealed that he was born in Nicaragua, that his parents were big shots in the Sandinista revolution and that he’s a Marxist Sandinista too. Don’t believe me on that, hit the library and read Chapter One of his book. And oh yeah, Mejia skipped out on his service and did time in jail for that. This guy is who IVAW elected as their leader.

Number Two at IVAW is a guy who got thrown out of the USMC and told, “Don’t Come Back”. Adam Kokesh bought a Saturday Night Special from an Iraqi policeman. That he was in Civil Affairs and there to teach and establish the rule of law, well….

You’re told what you can and can not bring back from deployment and weapons are a BIG career ending no-no.

So he brings it back and takes it on campus and it’s stolen from his vehicle. Campus Police investigate and he’s facing three felonies, which get plea bargained to disturbing the peace.

Sorry that I don’t have a very reliable source on that, as I’m just reporting what Adam Kokesh told RadarOnLine in an interview.

Again, Google is a great way to raise your consciouness of these groups.

The most important point. Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are all involved in the attempt to smear this generation of military serving, the way their Vietnam Veterans Against the War smeared the 60s veterans.

Like “Winter Soldier”, there is a “documentary” in the works called “Collateral Damage”.

Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are the bulk of the 50 interviews in “Collateral Damage”.

And the fact that the daughter of convicted terrorist supporter Sami al-Arian is involved, well that’s just a bonus.

Another reason to doubt IVAW. Jesse Macbeth was a member of IVAW. MacBeth was a phony Soldier. He never made it past recruit. Yet he marched with IVAW and even carried their banner. MacBeth lied. MacBeth said that his unit laid in wait at a mosque until the worshiperss were in prayers, slaughtered them, burned their bodies and hung the bodies from the rafters. And don’t let IVAW BS that MacBeth wasn’t a member. IVAW staffer Braxton was able to respond to inquiries and provide investigative journalists MacBeth’s discharge form. Jesse MacBeth was given a trial and convicted on his phony soldier claims.

There is another IVAW member who claims war crimes, but believe it ofr not a reporter embedded in the IVAW’s members unit came to the defense of the troops and disputed the IVAW claims.

IVAW and VFP are both endorsers of the World Tribunal on Iraq. Basically the Hate America crowd, here and abroad, held a series of intenational show trials with America and our military in the dock. IVAW’s Tim Goodrich testified to Army war crimes according to their reports. In the end, America was found guilty and they issued a “declaration” which among other things declared that the armed resistance is entitled to “certain acts of desperation” against the brutal occupier and that such acts were legitimate and justified under the UN Charter and international law. If it’s not clear what are “certain acts of desperation” by the “resistance”, search YouTube.com for “Iraq resistance” and “Iraqi resistance” and you see clearly that it is our troops getting killed. What Veterans’ “peace group” endorses such madness in the name of peace?

Bottom line, these people ARE anti-American. They are Vietnam protest re-enactors on a grand scale. And like the Vietnam era protesters who helped form and now guide them, it’s not enough for them that the war is wrong, it’s not enough for them that America is wrong, the troops have to be wrong too.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

raouldeming@hotmail.com

A question for Pat Alviso of Military Families Speak Out. When Tim Goodrich of IVAW went to Istanbul and testified at the World Tribunal on Iraq about the US miliatry committing widespread war crimes, how is it that your son is not a war criminal too?

Any questions, raouldeming@hotmail.com

I almost forgot the most important point. Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are all involved in the attempt to smear this generation of military serving, the way their Vietnam Veterans Against the War smeared the 60s veterans.

Like "Winter Soldier", there is a "documentary" in the works called "Collateral Damage". Military Families Speak Out, Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against the War are the bulk of the 50 interviews in "Collateral Damage".

And the fact that the daughter of a convicted terrorist supporter Sami al-Arian is involved, well that's just a bonus.

Bottom line, these people ARE anti-American. They are Vietnam protest re-enactors on a grand scale. And like the Vietnam era protesters who helped form and now guide them, it's not enough for them that the war is wrong, it's not enough for them that America is wrong, the troops have to be wrong too.

IVAW's Chairman, Camilo Mejia, was on DemocracyNow.org on August 27th and during the interview revealed that he was born in Nicaragua, that his parents were big shots in the Sandinista revolution and that he's a Marxist Sandinista too. Don't believe me on that, hit the library and read Chapter One of his book. And oh yeah, Mejia skipped out on his service and did time in jail for that. This guy is who IVAW elected as their leader.

Number Two at IVAW is a guy who got thrown out of the USMC and told, "Don't Come Back". Adam Kokesh bought a Saturday Night Special from an Iraqi policeman. That he was in Civil Affairs and there to teach and establish the rule of law, well....

You're told what you can and can not bring back from deployment and weapons are a BIG career ending no-no.

So he brings it back and takes it on campus and it's stolen from his vehicle. Campus Police investigate and he's facing three felonies, which get plea bargained to disturbing the peace.

Sorry that I don't have a very reliable source on that. I'm just reporting what Adam Kokesh told the website RadarOnLine in an interview.

Again, Google a little folks and raise your consciouness.

And don't take my word for any of the above. Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are.

Also, David Cline (VVAW) is the person who brought together these fake patriotic sounding groups, IVAW, VFP and MFSO. When you look at the incestuous leadership of these groups, you'll see it's a Potamkin Village.

Again, I recommend that you Google these "peace groups" and do some homework. They're forming new front groups all the time, but it's the usual suspects.

However, if you're looking for a good deal on a Che shirt, go to the biggest peace group, internationalanswer.org. ANSWER is the front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, pslweb.org.

IVAW, VFP and MFSO gladly allow themselves to be used. All have been the lead group in ANSWER marches.

And ANSWER has handed out a flyer that asks the "Anti-war movement" to give the "resistance" in Iraq "unconditional support". Unconditional is just that "unconditional". They don't ask the other side to stop. And when they kill American troops, they you're supposed to support that too. UNCONDITIONAL.

Google "Counter-revolution & Resistance In Iraq" and read the last paragraph.

Iraq Veterans Against the War are mentored by and modeled after the Vietnam Veterans Against the War who smeared their own generation of veterans via a lie called the "Winter Soldier Investigation". That was 109 "interviews" that were compiled to make a book and a movie documenting wide spread war crimes that they claimed every soldier serving participated in or covered up.

A book called "Stolen Valor" examined the records of those "veterans" and found many were phony soldiers that never served. Others served, but never in Vietnam. Others that served in Vietnam were shown to be liars. What did they have in common, they lied about their fellow Vietnam veterans and they were members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

They are so reviled that they have to hide their association with VVAW and call themselves "Veterans For Peace". Elliot Adams, David Cline, etc leading VFP are VVAW leaders. Do the math, VFP=VVAW with a few wannabes who missed the 60's thrown in.

MFSO? What a joke. Their name was cynically and deliberately chosen to steal the goodwill, respect and gratitude the public feels for our troops and use it for their purposes. MFSO's leaders, Charlie Richardson and Nancy Lessin both told a conference of "anti-war" (really anti-America) leaders that the left had no credibility, so they needed to have military families and better yet military members front their cause.

There’s a lot of ways I can prove that MFSO is NOT the kind of military family you think of when someone says, “military” families. But the best example is 100 members of MFSO at Walter Reed Army hospital PROTESTING!

Not only were they protesting at Walter Reed, don’t let them BS you about how they care. Those people put FUNERAL WREATHS in front of the Walter Reed sign and out of the 100 MFSO members, not one carried an America flag or had a American flag pin on.

MFSO continues to sponsor a two hour protest every Friday night at Walter Reed Army Hospital. Let me tell you what I heard from three wounded Soldiers about what they thought of MFSO and their “Enlist Here and Die For Halliburton” and “Maimed For A Lie” signs as those wounded laid on a stretcher and looked out of the ambulance bus at MFSO. All three, who do not know each other, said the EXACT same thing, “I don’t need this S**T.”

Thank God Long Beach stood up for our veterans and keep these hate groups out of the parade.

And don't take my word for any of the above. Google is a wonderful tools to educate yourself as to who these groups really are.