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Re: Vanilla Sky - ETC Movie Review

Mensley — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:00:00 -0000

I liked this movie too! Twists and symbolism are great devices. The whole PTSD thing didn't occur to me, though, which I don't know why it would since I don't know anything about it! But I have learned something today.

Re: Vanilla Sky - ETC Movie Review

Mensley — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:12:01 -0000

Re: DEMOCRAT SENATORS – INACCURACIES IN QUESTIONING ALITO: 1/12/06 Day 4

Mensley — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 02:00:00 -0000

I keep hearing on the radio as the senators (the Devious Dems) repeatedly refer to Roe V. Wade as the "settled law of the land".
Is this their official proclamation that American law is written by the Supreme Court?
It's been a while since poli sci, but, isn't that screwy?

Re: DEMOCRAT SENATORS – INACCURACIES IN QUESTIONING ALITO: 1/12/06 Day 4

Mensley — Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:01:22 -0000

I keep hearing on the radio as the senators (the Devious Dems) repeatedly refer to Roe V. Wade as the "settled law of the land".

Is this their official proclamation that American law is written by the Supreme Court?

It's been a while since poli sci, but, isn't that screwy?

Re: St. Louis Love Won Out Protest Pictures

Mensley — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 02:00:00 -0000

Kyle, you can do it! With God, everything is possible!
Randy, it's so funny how almost all the protestor's signs that I've ever seen demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of what Exodus and Love Won Out are all about.

Re: St. Louis Love Won Out Protest Pictures

Mensley — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:02:17 -0000

Kyle, you can do it! With God, everything is possible!

Randy, it's so funny how almost all the protestor's signs that I've ever seen demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of what Exodus and Love Won Out are all about.

Re: Merry March - Headed to Los Angeles and IN

Mensley — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 02:00:00 -0000

I expect the bloggage to be very high concerning these events.
Take care of Scott!! Sometimes he drinks coffee without checking its temperature and burns his mouth.
Actually, that's not true. I MADE IT UP.

Re: Merry March - Headed to Los Angeles and IN

Mensley — Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:03:12 -0000

I expect the bloggage to be very high concerning these events.

Take care of Scott!! Sometimes he drinks coffee without checking its temperature and burns his mouth.

Actually, that's not true. I MADE IT UP.

Re: Azusa Pacific University Panel Report

Mensley — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:00:00 -0000

Randy, I have seen examples of pro-gay theology similar to Ms. Jakobson's. What it seems to me to come down to is that everything--including Jesus--must bow to homosexuality.
People have written to me, "Jesus would never ask me to give that up." Or, "Jesus would never want me to deny this part of myself." The tragedy is that when they say the name Jesus they have no clue Who they're talking about. Jesus most certainly asks people to give up things which are dear to them and deny themselves in order to follow him. And that's not at all exclusive to people who struggle with same-sex attraction.

Re: Azusa Pacific University Panel Report

Mensley — Tue, 07 Mar 2006 08:03:12 -0000

Randy, I have seen examples of pro-gay theology similar to Ms. Jakobson's. What it seems to me to come down to is that everything--including Jesus--must bow to homosexuality.

People have written to me, "Jesus would never ask me to give that up." Or, "Jesus would never want me to deny this part of myself." The tragedy is that when they say the name Jesus they have no clue Who they're talking about. Jesus most certainly asks people to give up things which are dear to them and deny themselves in order to follow him. And that's not at all exclusive to people who struggle with same-sex attraction.

Re: Does the APA = American Political Association?

Mensley — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 02:00:00 -0000

Maureen, honestly, I think it's because it's just not politically or morally in line with the gay agenda. If you push the issue, they'll probably reluctantly admit that people should have the right to pursue change, but then they really want to make it as hard for people as possible. They just can't stand the fact that we exist.

Re: Does the APA = American Political Association?

Mensley — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 04:08:28 -0000

Re: Gay Male Monogamy

Mensley — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:00:00 -0000

Randy, my experience reflects pretty much the same thing as yours. In 5 years of pursuing homosexuality, I knew many couples who lived together in "committed" relationships, though monogamy was never part of the arrangement.
I only ever present this as what it is--my own personal experience--and not as in-depth research or anything like that. But, I think it's noteworthy.

Re: Gay Male Monogamy

Mensley — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:13:50 -0000

Randy, my experience reflects pretty much the same thing as yours. In 5 years of pursuing homosexuality, I knew many couples who lived together in "committed" relationships, though monogamy was never part of the arrangement.

I only ever present this as what it is--my own personal experience--and not as in-depth research or anything like that. But, I think it's noteworthy.

Re: Gay Male Monogamy

Mensley — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 02:00:00 -0000

The idea that giving legal marital status to gay relationships would cause there to be less promiscuity doesn't fly with me. It certainly never stopped the heterosexual men who've cheated on their wives.
The fact that this argument even exists is evidence to me that promiscuity is as big a problem in the gay male community as I suppose it is.

Re: Gay Male Monogamy

Mensley — Wed, 07 Mar 2007 03:54:11 -0000

The idea that giving legal marital status to gay relationships would cause there to be less promiscuity doesn't fly with me. It certainly never stopped the heterosexual men who've cheated on their wives.

The fact that this argument even exists is evidence to me that promiscuity is as big a problem in the gay male community as I suppose it is.

Re: Green License Plates Proposed for Sex Offenders

Mensley — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:00:00 -0000

In my own process as well as my volunteer work at a local Exodus Ministry (New Creations of California), I've personally battled for my freedom alongside men who struggled with pedophilia and some who had acted on it. This personalized the issue for me, too, in seeing their genuine pursuit of freedom and restoration. Who am I to look down on them?
This is the first I heard of the license plate thing, and my initial reaction makes me want to oppose it. It does seem like a "scarlet letter" type of thing that would only invite incidents of "vigilante justice." It seems like a punitive measure.
What else are they trying to accomplish? Keep children safe from someone who's dangerous? If an individual poses such a direct threat to children that he needs to be marked this way, then what is he doing walking free?
It was my understanding that we let people out of prison because they had paid out their debt to society and they were no longer a threat. Maybe that's flawed. Maybe it only has to be one (and not necessarily both) of those things. But it seems to me that if their social debt is paid and they're safe enough not to be detained any longer, what's the point?
I would also hate to see the healing process so set back for someone genuinely seeking it.

Re: Green License Plates Proposed for Sex Offenders

Mensley — Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:41:38 -0000

In my own process as well as my volunteer work at a local Exodus Ministry (New Creations of California), I've personally battled for my freedom alongside men who struggled with pedophilia and some who had acted on it. This personalized the issue for me, too, in seeing their genuine pursuit of freedom and restoration. Who am I to look down on them?

This is the first I heard of the license plate thing, and my initial reaction makes me want to oppose it. It does seem like a "scarlet letter" type of thing that would only invite incidents of "vigilante justice." It seems like a punitive measure.

What else are they trying to accomplish? Keep children safe from someone who's dangerous? If an individual poses such a direct threat to children that he needs to be marked this way, then what is he doing walking free?

It was my understanding that we let people out of prison because they had paid out their debt to society and they were no longer a threat. Maybe that's flawed. Maybe it only has to be one (and not necessarily both) of those things. But it seems to me that if their social debt is paid and they're safe enough not to be detained any longer, what's the point?

I would also hate to see the healing process so set back for someone genuinely seeking it.

Re: APA Task Force Response

Mensley — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:00:00 -0000

The response from Koocher is simply amazing. They're obviously approaching this with extreme bias straight from the get-go.
What also strikes me is the blatant arrogance of the response to such a polite and professional letter. There's an attitude of such hostility and elitism going on with some of these people. They can't seriously be trusted with the well-being of hurting people, for whom the truth really matters.

Re: APA Task Force Response

Mensley — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 08:15:03 -0000

The response from Koocher is simply amazing. They're obviously approaching this with extreme bias straight from the get-go.

What also strikes me is the blatant arrogance of the response to such a polite and professional letter. There's an attitude of such hostility and elitism going on with some of these people. They can't seriously be trusted with the well-being of hurting people, for whom the truth really matters.

Re: HRC Finds Religion … really?

Mensley — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:00:00 -0000

Great post, Randy!
I agree with you that the big problem with "Westernized" Christianity--and Spirituality in general--is that we put ourselves in the center, with truth orbiting us.
I also agree that this is not a strictly pro-gay theology problem, but it's surely the soil that pro-gay theology sprouted from.
It astounds me how many self-proclaimed Christians don't have a clue what the Gospel of Christ says. Supposedly it's all about "love" and "accepting people" (in other words, accepting everything, no conflict allowed). Yet, the Gospel is based on the premise that we are ALL in conflict with God, and Jesus had to settle it for us.
I'll shut up since it's not my blog.
Anywho, great post!

Re: Wayne Besen, Richard Cohen on The Daily Show

Mensley — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 05:45:30 -0000

The Daily Show clip was simultaneously sad and hilarious.

I agree with you, Randy, because my experience going through an Exodus ministry was nothing close to what Cohen described on the Daily show (or what Mr. Besen described here).

I was never shamed for my feelings, temptations or even my behavior by those who worked at New Creation Ministries. Rather, I was brought to a deeper understanding about and more mature way of handling feelings and relationships.

Re: HRC Finds Religion … really?

Mensley — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:45:00 -0000

Great post, Randy!

I agree with you that the big problem with "Westernized" Christianity--and Spirituality in general--is that we put ourselves in the center, with truth orbiting us.

I also agree that this is not a strictly pro-gay theology problem, but it's surely the soil that pro-gay theology sprouted from.

It astounds me how many self-proclaimed Christians don't have a clue what the Gospel of Christ says. Supposedly it's all about "love" and "accepting people" (in other words, accepting everything, no conflict allowed). Yet, the Gospel is based on the premise that we are ALL in conflict with God, and Jesus had to settle it for us.

I'll shut up since it's not my blog.

Anywho, great post!

Re: A Different Kind of Hijacking

Mensley — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 03:00:00 -0000

I find it telling that people who hate Christians and Christianity can't really address our actual message and beliefs. Instead, they create this dishonest caricature that makes us easy to dismiss. It basically comes down to the fact that people don't want to deal with the Gospel--big surprise.

Re: A Different Kind of Hijacking

Mensley — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 04:49:42 -0000

Re: The Washington Briefing - Pictures

Mensley — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:34:54 -0000

He's cool! I saw some of the thing on C-SPAN while in San Diego...unfortunately, they kept showing the same audience shot...I was looking for you!

Re: The Washington Briefing - Pictures

Mensley — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:34:54 -0000

He's cool! I saw some of the thing on C-SPAN while in San Diego...unfortunately, they kept showing the same audience shot...I was looking for you!

Re: My Interview with a Vampire - A Halloween Post

Mensley — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 10:35:53 -0000

Wow, what a display of tolerance that you were able to converse politely with the undead before doing your civil duty. I wouldn't have been so kind.

Re: My Interview with a Vampire - A Halloween Post

Mensley — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:35:53 -0000

Wow, what a display of tolerance that you were able to converse politely with the undead before doing your civil duty. I wouldn't have been so kind.

Re: False Prophet Fred Phelps Has A New Bill to Pay

Mensley — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:05:46 -0000

First of all, I think it's the least of what the Phelps clan deserves. I don't believe it's their expression being punished--but the blatant harassment of violating a family's private ceremony with their slanderous display. I hope this curtails their future efforts in a big way.

As for bad precedent, I think it's a guarantee that some will try to abuse this verdict in their war against choice. Let's face it, some people are so blinded in their views, they can't or won't recognize the mountainous difference between Westboro and Exodus. I believe those people are in the minority, though.

Re: False Prophet Fred Phelps Has A New Bill to Pay

Mensley — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:05:46 -0000

First of all, I think it's the least of what the Phelps clan deserves. I don't believe it's their expression being punished--but the blatant harassment of violating a family's private ceremony with their slanderous display. I hope this curtails their future efforts in a big way.
As for bad precedent, I think it's a guarantee that some will try to abuse this verdict in their war against choice. Let's face it, some people are so blinded in their views, they can't or won't recognize the mountainous difference between Westboro and Exodus. I believe those people are in the minority, though.

Re: Median Income for Gay Identified Households

Mensley — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:01:22 -0000

Good post, Randy, and responses.

Re: Median Income for Gay Identified Households

Mensley — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:01:22 -0000

Good post, Randy, and responses.

Re: Birds Eye View

Mensley — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:19:34 -0000

My favorite is lightning. There was a bunch on my last flight, but it was really infrequent and I kept catching it only from the corner of my eye.

Re: Gay Initiation Class Seeks to Teach Proper Gayness

Mensley — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:30:53 -0000

Randy,

another good post. The description of this class goes a long way in articulating how consuming a "gay" identity is.

There are so many ways homosexuality--when it's embraced that way--permeates a person's life (and is expected to). One of the things that disillusioned me personally concerning the gay community was all the ideals (political, relational and religious) I was expected to conform to.

People often don't understand family and friends' dismay when a loved one "comes out." The argument's commonly made, "I'm still the same person."

Maybe what those people are (in some way) aware of is how, when the "gay" identity is given free reign, you're not the same person.

Re: Birds Eye View

Mensley — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:19:34 -0000

My favorite is lightning. There was a bunch on my last flight, but it was really infrequent and I kept catching it only from the corner of my eye.

Re: Gay Initiation Class Seeks to Teach Proper Gayness

Mensley — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:30:53 -0000

Randy,
another good post. The description of this class goes a long way in articulating how consuming a "gay" identity is.
There are so many ways homosexuality--when it's embraced that way--permeates a person's life (and is expected to). One of the things that disillusioned me personally concerning the gay community was all the ideals (political, relational and religious) I was expected to conform to.
People often don't understand family and friends' dismay when a loved one "comes out." The argument's commonly made, "I'm still the same person."
Maybe what those people are (in some way) aware of is how, when the "gay" identity is given free reign, you're not the same person.

Re: Huckabee on Colbert

Mensley — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:14:49 -0000

Love it! Thanks, Randy!

Re: Huckabee on Colbert

Mensley — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:14:49 -0000

Love it! Thanks, Randy!

Re: Hutcherson Family Harassed

Mensley — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:11:12 -0000

I think it's telling that those supposedly espousing tolerance are in such short supply themselves. But I agree, it's not surprising.

Re: Hutcherson Family Harassed

Mensley — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:11:12 -0000

I think it's telling that those supposedly espousing tolerance are in such short supply themselves. But I agree, it's not surprising.

Re: Hutcherson Family Harassed

Mensley — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 10:28:21 -0000

Brady-- in regards to my comment here, I was referring to the people in this particular story who were behaving in such a hypocritical manner. I think it's a stretch to infer I was making a generalization about all people who espouse tolerance--after all, I consider myself an advocate of true tolerance.

Re: Hutcherson Family Harassed

Mensley — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:28:21 -0000

Re: Lenny Kravitz: It Is Time For A Love Revolution

Mensley — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:12:00 -0000

This is awesome. It's a rare thing to have a well-liked celebrity promote healthy, moral choices--especially where sexuality is concerned. I'm definitely thankful for that.

Re: Lenny Kravitz: It Is Time For A Love Revolution

Mensley — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:12:00 -0000

This is awesome. It's a rare thing to have a well-liked celebrity promote healthy, moral choices--especially where sexuality is concerned. I'm definitely thankful for that.

Re: Religous Beliefs of College Faculty

Mensley — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:00:59 -0000

Definitely a sense of moral superiority. The thing that made college the most difficult for me was having Christianity bashed in one way or another in almost all of my classes.

Re: Religous Beliefs of College Faculty

Mensley — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:00:59 -0000

Definitely a sense of moral superiority. The thing that made college the most difficult for me was having Christianity bashed in one way or another in almost all of my classes.

Re: State Lawmaker: Ban “Gay Talk” from Classroom

Mensley — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:01:41 -0000

Brandon, I think I agree with you. To whatever extent schools talk about sexuality (and the extent it should be is a matter for another debate), there's nothing wrong and I agree it would be helpful to acknowledge that people experience all kinds of sexual attractions.

Scott, the bill itself may be out of the picture, but the indoctrination of young people in schools is never a moot point.

Re: State Lawmaker: Ban “Gay Talk” from Classroom

Mensley — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:01:41 -0000

Brandon, I think I agree with you. To whatever extent schools talk about sexuality (and the extent it should be is a matter for another debate), there's nothing wrong and I agree it would be helpful to acknowledge that people experience all kinds of sexual attractions.
Scott, the bill itself may be out of the picture, but the indoctrination of young people in schools is never a moot point.

Re: State Lawmaker: Ban “Gay Talk” from Classroom

Mensley — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:44:13 -0000

Scott, I use the word "indoctrination" because students, when they are instructed according to most of the curriculum out there, are introduced to concepts which are not factual or scientific in nature--but they are presented as though they are.

They're also sometimes subjected to intimidation by the proponents of these concepts. Groups like GLSEN have suggested that teachers use certain games to teach "tolerance," yet the purpose is clearly to isolate and embarrass anyone who has a differing view about sexuality.

I think it earns the word "indoctrination" perfectly.

Re: State Lawmaker: Ban “Gay Talk” from Classroom

Mensley — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:44:13 -0000

Scott, I use the word "indoctrination" because students, when they are instructed according to most of the curriculum out there, are introduced to concepts which are not factual or scientific in nature--but they are presented as though they are.
They're also sometimes subjected to intimidation by the proponents of these concepts. Groups like GLSEN have suggested that teachers use certain games to teach "tolerance," yet the purpose is clearly to isolate and embarrass anyone who has a differing view about sexuality.
I think it earns the word "indoctrination" perfectly.

Re: Christian Couple in UK Declared “Unsuitable” to Foster Kids

Mensley — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:55:50 -0000

Brian, first of all the difference is that these parents are being excluded because of their personal beliefs--not because of their behavior or relationship patterns.

As for gay adoption, sure I'm personally not a supporter of the idea. My position, however, is based upon what I believe is best for a child, not how much I value the adults. A child needs a mother and a father; the question is who can supply that.

I also don't think it can be accurately said that Exodus "aggressively advocate[s] against equality for LGBT families." Other than a handful of blogs that might mention it once in a while, to what are you referring?

And it goes without saying that, in the arena of parenting, heterosexual couples do present an unequal advantage starting from the very nature of it. No LGBT couple (however you'd define that--and some would still probably call you close-minded) can start a family without the contribution of heterosexuality.

Re: Christian Couple in UK Declared “Unsuitable” to Foster Kids

Mensley — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:55:50 -0000

Brian, first of all the difference is that these parents are being excluded because of their personal beliefs--not because of their behavior or relationship patterns.
As for gay adoption, sure I'm personally not a supporter of the idea. My position, however, is based upon what I believe is best for a child, not how much I value the adults. A child needs a mother and a father; the question is who can supply that.
I also don't think it can be accurately said that Exodus "aggressively advocate[s] against equality for LGBT families." Other than a handful of blogs that might mention it once in a while, to what are you referring?
And it goes without saying that, in the arena of parenting, heterosexual couples do present an unequal advantage starting from the very nature of it. No LGBT couple (however you'd define that--and some would still probably call you close-minded) can start a family without the contribution of heterosexuality.

Re: “Star Wars” Summarized by Three Year Old

Mensley — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:11:52 -0000

This is beyond cute.

Re: “Star Wars” Summarized by Three Year Old

Mensley — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:11:52 -0000

This is beyond cute.

Re: Shocking! A Crazy Decision By A California Court

Mensley — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:22:18 -0000

Having been a California resident for more than two decades, and having a mom who has been a public school teacher for most of that time, I am a bit familiar with these issues.

Teachers unions in California are out of control. From the time I was in grade school, I know that despite that my mother disagreed with a lot of the union's politics they were still able to dip into her wages without her consent. That's just one example, but I think it paints a pretty heinous picture all on its own.

The more that the government gets involved with parenting, the worse off kids will be. Requiring parents to have state-mandated (and probably union-controlled) certifications in order to teach their own children is wrong--and it's not about what's best for the children. It's about putting butts in the seats, which as Paul explained, translates into cash.

Re: Shocking! A Crazy Decision By A California Court

Mensley — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:22:18 -0000

Having been a California resident for more than two decades, and having a mom who has been a public school teacher for most of that time, I am a bit familiar with these issues.
Teachers unions in California are out of control. From the time I was in grade school, I know that despite that my mother disagreed with a lot of the union's politics they were still able to dip into her wages without her consent. That's just one example, but I think it paints a pretty heinous picture all on its own.
The more that the government gets involved with parenting, the worse off kids will be. Requiring parents to have state-mandated (and probably union-controlled) certifications in order to teach their own children is wrong--and it's not about what's best for the children. It's about putting butts in the seats, which as Paul explained, translates into cash.

Re: Disqus Comments

Mensley — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:03:37 -0000

Wow. Who would have thought this would be one of your more controversial threads, Randy? In any case, way to go doing what it takes to defeat spam. Spam is the Jar-Jar Binks of the internet.

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Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:10:48 -0000

...if another photographer in the future decides that his or her (fill in the blank) faith does not allow them to do business with somebody of another (fill in the blank) faith, it’ll be legal for them to do it.

What would be wrong with that?

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:14:38 -0000

I don't see why someone who felt uncomfortable shooting gay weddings would need to also turn down all non-Christian weddings. The issue is not doing business with non-believers or people with different values--the issue is the event itself.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:49:49 -0000

Who knows if they would? But people shouldn't be forced to do business in a way that conflicts with their faith. I would go with your other half and say, look, this person doesn't want to do business with Christians (or specifically Baptists). That's their choice and their loss.

Chik-fil-a is owned by Christians who felt compelled by their convictions to close restaurant doors on Sundays. I'd say the vast majority of Americans don't personally observe the Sabbath in this way, but you don't see them banging on the doors of Chik-fil-a and filing suit because they can't get a Sunday afternoon sandwich. They just go somewhere else, and the owners deal with whatever financial ramifications come from closing on that day.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:40:04 -0000

A gay wedding is different than those other cases. While unsaved, the other people are not participating in something that Biblically is inherently sinful (save for the drunken wedding party--at which point I personally would excuse myself).

The problems here really stem from a belief system that turns homosexuality into a core aspect of a person's identity.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:42:49 -0000

Well, kicking someone out of a shop or restaurant is a little different than politely declining to be personally hired to work at an event. If GLSEN wanted me to be their Youth Analyst, I'd refuse.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:43:59 -0000

Well, not everyone thinks being gay is quite the same as being black, but that's a whole other post.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:10:48 -0000

...if another photographer in the future decides that his or her (fill in the blank) faith does not allow them to do business with somebody of another (fill in the blank) faith, itâ€™ll be legal for them to do it.
What would be wrong with that?

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 00:14:38 -0000

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:49:49 -0000

Who knows if they would? But people shouldn't be forced to do business in a way that conflicts with their faith. I would go with your other half and say, look, this person doesn't want to do business with Christians (or specifically Baptists). That's their choice and their loss.
Chik-fil-a is owned by Christians who felt compelled by their convictions to close restaurant doors on Sundays. I'd say the vast majority of Americans don't personally observe the Sabbath in this way, but you don't see them banging on the doors of Chik-fil-a and filing suit because they can't get a Sunday afternoon sandwich. They just go somewhere else, and the owners deal with whatever financial ramifications come from closing on that day.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:40:04 -0000

A gay wedding is different than those other cases. While unsaved, the other people are not participating in something that Biblically is inherently sinful (save for the drunken wedding party--at which point I personally would excuse myself).
The problems here really stem from a belief system that turns homosexuality into a core aspect of a person's identity.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:42:49 -0000

Well, kicking someone out of a shop or restaurant is a little different than politely declining to be personally hired to work at an event. If GLSEN wanted me to be their Youth Analyst, I'd refuse.

Re: Christian Photographer Fined for Refusing Gay Wedding

Mensley — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 06:43:59 -0000

Well, not everyone thinks being gay is quite the same as being black, but that's a whole other post.

Re: Not What You Normally See in a Locker Room

Mensley — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:33:04 -0000

It's amazing what gross things some guys will do. All the time at the movie theater, I see guys come into the restroom and set their drink and/or bag of popcorn or candy on top of the urinal while they're relieving themselves. Then they take it up again and resume snacking. Maybe it's just me, but the sight makes me nauseous.

Re: Not What You Normally See in a Locker Room

Mensley — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 07:33:04 -0000

Re: Is Palin Just an Opportunistic Woman? … No

Mensley — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:26:11 -0000

I'm with you all the way on her speech... it was fantastic. And honestly, I'm enjoying watching the Left choke on their own hypocrisy as they attempt to attack her with sexist rhetoric and cracks about her "inexperience," when anybody and everybody can tell she has more than Obama.

Another thing that just struck me about the [Worship] Us magazine photo you posted... the headline for Palin: "Babies, Lies & Scandal." It's like they think the word "babies" somehow fits into the same category as the other two. Is it another manifestation of the Death Culture mentality?

Re: Is Palin Just an Opportunistic Woman? … No

Mensley — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:27:07 -0000

That's "more experience than Obama"

Re: Is Palin Just an Opportunistic Woman? … No

Mensley — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:26:11 -0000

Re: Is Palin Just an Opportunistic Woman? … No

Mensley — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:27:07 -0000

That's "more experience than Obama"

Re: Of Pigs & Lipstick

Mensley — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:23:36 -0000

Ellie, I was wondering the same thing. I mean, even if either candidate did intentionally make a stupid remark like that, I don't think it would affect who I was voting for. After all, I'm basing my vote on the policies and values that the candidate promises to fight for... not whether they offend certain people with idle comments.

I agree it's stupid that the media makes it seem like the election is about this kind of garbage far more than it is about the state of our nation.

Re: Of Pigs & Lipstick

Mensley — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:23:36 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz “Coming Out”

Mensley — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:53:06 -0000

What strikes me most about this was how Ray Boltz felt he had to struggle in silence for so long. He knew he couldn't minister, couldn't be a Christian singer and follow his calling--and still be a struggling human being at the same time.

This is part of a resounding wake-up call to the Church--it's time for transparency and grace!

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz “Coming Out”

Mensley — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:53:06 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz “Coming Out”

Mensley — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:54:23 -0000

More like this:

1) Thinking, relating and living beyond labels like "straight" and "gay" and seeking the mystery of what it means to be alive in Christ.

2) Being at peace with the fact that our feelings are sometimes in conflict with who God wants us to be, and knowing there's grace to struggle and room to grow.

And by the way change does happen...

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz “Coming Out”

Mensley — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:37:04 -0000

I think I can relate to why Mr. Boltz felt ashamed and etc. throughout his life. He doesn't need to necessarily not believe in Scriptural promises. Shame comes from secrets we feel forced to keep because they are unsafe to share. A struggle with same-sex attraction could certainly fall into that category for someone who runs in Conservative Christian circles--more so for someone in ministry--even more so for someone in very public ministry.

This, I believe, is part of a wake-up call to the Body of Christ. We need to be living in radical transparency with one another, so that these struggles do not fester over the years, growing stronger until they overcome us.

"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective." James 5:16

Re: Ninja Cat Is Going to Get You

Mensley — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:33:10 -0000

I found this the other day and thought it was hilarious! Excellent post material!!

Re: The Hulk Has A Bad Body Image and I Think He Might Sell Drugs

Mensley — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:50:02 -0000

You go, Randy.

I have currently not quite fallen off the fitness wagon, but I am being dragged behind it. My new apartment, however, has a MUCH nicer exercise room with state-of-the-art equipment, and about this I am considerably excited. 9 days and counting...

Re: The Screaming Neenies Fear Palin Power

Mensley — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:22:39 -0000

I wish I was world-wise enough to tell whether the Hard Left was entering its final death-throes--or on the verge of a violent oppressive takeover. Maybe it's still a toss-up between the two and the decision has yet to be made by some act of fate.

In any case, if we are not going to be sheep and we are not going to be strangled out of Democracy forever, we need to make a resolute stand against the Celebrity Elite who have staked their claim on the American mind. They, like the government, get all of their power from us and they want us not to realize that. We can take it away, and we must.

Re: The Screaming Neenies Fear Palin Power

Mensley — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:54:35 -0000

Well, I've never been big on boycotts, but what else is there? I've been thinking of starting a Facebook/Myspace group for people who are fed up with all this stuff. I'd call it "The Great American Un-Plug" or something like that. Not only would I encourage people to stop watching the network news shows, but to actively write letters to network executives AND the shows' sponsors, letting them know I'm not watching the show anymore, why I'm not watching it, and what might change my mind--namely some serious apologies from their head honchos and some reporters-turned-liberal-commentators filing for unemployment.

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz “Coming Out”

Mensley — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:03:14 -0000

Somebody in here somewhere asked me a question--but that was like 30 comments ago and now I can't remember anything. It's Friday!

Re: The Economic Meltdown Timeline That Leading Democrats Don’t Want You to See

Mensley — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:08:34 -0000

Ignorance is the Big Oil of the Left. Keep getting the info out there!

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 18:14:55 -0000

Marriage actually isn't a right for all humans. Children don't have the right to marry, and people who are already married don't have the right to marry again should their eye wander (unless they dissolve their current marriage--which frankly, our legal system makes far too easy).

If we take your logic to its ultimate conclusion--that marriage ought to be directed by personal proclivities--then polygamy will be the result. That our the abolition of marriage altogether. Lifelong, monogamous heterosexual marriage isn't a gay person's automatic orientation--but it isn't anyone else's, either.

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:47:54 -0000

Well, you referred to marriage as a "human right," which I assumed meant all people. Children are people, not property. But I will concede on the binding consent argument in that case.

Gay adults can give consent, but again, following your logic to its ultimate end, so can polygamists, "swingers", etc. Marriage must have definite boundaries, or it doesn't exist.

And yes, I believe every person (including me) needs God to help them know and do what is right. If that sickens you, so be it.

Re: BarackBook

Mensley — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:08:33 -0000

Heck, FB runs almost nothing but Obama ads from what I've seen. They probably thought this up.

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:23:11 -0000

The definition of marriage has not been changed before. True, interracial marriages were once frowned upon, and women have been regarded as "less than" men in pretty much all cultures to some degree. But these were more transcendent issues of prejudice that, while they affected marriage deeply, did not change what it is at its root.

The justification for gay marriage is that we ought to be allowed to marry according to our personal desires, regardless of sex, and if that offends others' standards of morality or propriety, so what?

But then if the gay community may challenge (and repeal) those standards which exclude the desires they find most natural, how can they impose their own set of standards upon others with different desires?

Re: Conservative Prude & Mr. 900

Mensley — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:49:54 -0000

I know a few characters from my gym who resemble Mr. 900. They can usually be found having obnoxiously loud conversations on borderline-inappropriate topics at times.

As for the butt-branding, I don't like it either. But did you ever hear Dane Cook's spiel about it? How his dad borrowed his sister's pants that said "Juicy" and he wore them backwards on Christmas morning? Good stuff...

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:07:12 -0000

You really didn't give a different justification for gay marriage than I did. But even if it was different, how could someone of another sexual persuasion not make the same argument? How could you say your definition of love justifies changing marriage and theirs doesn't? It would be hypocritical of you.

And yes, I believe gay marriage is wrong all on its own, whether it leads to those other things or not. We could argue on and on about the why's but I'm sure you we can each keep thinking up answers for each other. The bottom line is, the standard is set by Scripture--not me. For Heaven's sake, if it was about my personal preference we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:02:12 -0000

Could you explain how you've described exactly what marriage is and how I've "stripped it down"?

Also, I'd like to know how you differentiate "sexual orientation" and "sexual persuasion" and why my take on them makes you sad.

Re: Exodus Launches New Website for a New Generation

Mensley — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:41:18 -0000

Woot!

Re: Google “Officially” Against California’s Prop 8

Mensley — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:42:25 -0000

Are we there yet?

Re: Mr. 900 Needs Help and Baby Butt Branding

Mensley — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:56:13 -0000

She and I agreed that she should tell you that to make you feel better.

Re: Stunning Defeat for Anti-Marriage Resolution in Ft. Lauderdale

Mensley — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:49:04 -0000

I agree... seems odd that no one showed up to support the pro-gay side.

Re: McCain vs. Obama - LIVE Blogging the Second Presidential Debate!

Mensley — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 18:06:29 -0000

I had a great time Randy! Although, as expected, the MSM is giving the night to Obama. I guess 'cause he didn't burp or anything. One lib-o-blog called him "flawless," which to me just reeks of the desperate holy-speak that Obama's media cohorts have been lavishing on him all along. Psh!

Thanks again!

Re: The Only Reason to Watch CNN Just Left The Studio

Mensley — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:32:44 -0000

Yeah... I caught some broadcasts on both CNN and MSNBC while I was in California, and I found them incredibly biased.

Re: The Only Reason to Watch CNN Just Left The Studio

Mensley — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:50:14 -0000

I believe it about AC. Though, I think we should petition the major Networks to re-classify their news shows and anchors as talk shows and hosts, because they sure as heck aren't journalists.

Re: Florida International University Replaces Proper Debate with Hateful Infotainment

Mensley — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:23:03 -0000

Did they invite the Sisters of perpetual indulgence to represent the pro-gay side? Or perhaps the planning committee for the Folsom street fair? Probably not.

Re: Seven Days And Counting - Election ‘08 Needs to Be Over

Mensley — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:38:31 -0000

I know how you feel, Randy. The last couple of days I have really been thinking about how I need to check my emotions about some of this stuff. Not that I have been freaking out--but some of the anxiety, frustration and anger has potential to go overboard.

It's sad because the media is playing into those things on both sides, trying to find the most offensive extremes and make them news.

You're right; it's so tiring and yet so important. It's nice that we can trust in God and know that one day, even the government will belong to Jesus.

Re: Letter From A Christian in 2012 - Focus Action Letter

Mensley — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:45:49 -0000

Honestly, I think this letter depicts pretty accurately where the ideology of the Left will take this country. However, I think they will have to do it incrimentally and that most of it probably couldn't happen in the span of an Obama presidency. But I could be wrong.

In that case, though, God will use the hardships of the Body of Christ (as He always has) to show who the true Believers are. It's sad to see how many are falling away from truth simply because they will not stand to be held in contempt by the court of Public Opinion. That's not even real persecution.

Re: If I Had A Nickel …

Mensley — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:01:16 -0000

Get better, Randy!

Re: The Morning After The Election - Initial Thoughts

Mensley — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:21:07 -0000

I agree that we shouldn't question people's patriotism simply because they oppose a president and/or his policies. Still, there are those on the Left who genuinely despise America's identity and values. Their patriotism isn't in question, really. They have none.

Re: The Morning After The Election - Initial Thoughts

Mensley — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:31:55 -0000

Wow. Really good concession speech. I probably would've cried if I'd watched it last night.

Re: Congratulations President Obama

Mensley — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:18:59 -0000

Hm... you think those with anti-faith bigotry issues are much different from those who genuinely hate gays?

Re: “Stop It” Therapy for The Masses - A Day Dream

Mensley — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:51:18 -0000

Formerly-homosexual-neo-conservative-reformed-evangelical-prophetic progressive-sushi-eating-emergent-iced-venti-skinny-vanilla-latte.

Re: One of The Most Oddly Inspired Posts You Will Ever Be Asked To Participate In

Mensley — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:27:14 -0000

There are plenty of places where this would be safe to try... are the moving sidewalks at Universal close enough together? I can't remember. In any case, I must do this.

As for this one-time, one-way, 6-hour flight, what is my speed limit? Can I drive somewhere else and start from there? I'd probably want to fly around some dramatic mountains somewhere and then safely land in a little town where I could hitch a ride home.

Re: One of The Most Oddly Inspired Posts You Will Ever Be Asked To Participate In

Mensley — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:42:40 -0000

Oh it's on...

Re: Witnessing Unconditional Love And Conviction - Ask It Basket

Mensley — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:58:37 -0000

Hey Randy, want to post this at ExodusYouth.net ? I think it's perfect for it...

Re: H8 Against Prop 8

Mensley — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:59:42 -0000

Hey, maybe that's just how Randy was raised to say it. ;-p

Re: Two Moments at Macy’s

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:58:00 -0000

Note to self: at ANY protest, be on La Shawn's side.

Re: Two Moments at Macy’s

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:08:17 -0000

Thank you for your email! I am currently attending the National Youth Workers' Convention through Monday, November 24th. I will have very limited access to email until I return on Tuesday, so please be patient with any delay I have getting back with you.

Re: One of The Most Oddly Inspired Posts You Will Ever Be Asked To Participate In

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:27:37 -0000

See and believe, my friends!

Re: One of The Most Oddly Inspired Posts You Will Ever Be Asked To Participate In

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:01:08 -0000

Re: Bad Mensley … Bad Bad Mensley …

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:49:28 -0000

Thank you, thank you very much.

Re: Bad Mensley … Bad Bad Mensley …

Mensley — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:32:27 -0000

Re: The Village Voice Quotes Yours Truly

Mensley — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:00:00 -0000

You go, Randy. The Infamous Rascal Thomas strikes again!

Re: Jon Stewart vs. Mike Huckabee on Gay Marriage

Mensley — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:00:00 -0000

Hey Mep, maybe one day you'll join the ranks of people willing to personally own their pubic comments. Till then, calling someone else a failure might be above your pay grade.

Re: Sarah Palin Explains Church’s Role in “Ex-Gay” Conference

Mensley — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:00:00 -0000

She did alright... still she should do a few rounds with you and Julie just to be on the safe side.

Re: Rick Warren in a Whirlwind by Mohler and Cool Christians

Mensley — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:00:00 -0000

I second that "wow". It's sad but true: when it comes to the "cool" church, if you don't tow the line on certain issues (mainly this one), you're out.

We have to be willing to weather their childish response to the truth, though, because the cool church is not The Church.

Philippians 3:18-19 (NLT)

For I have told you often before, and I say it again with tears in my eyes, that there are many whose conduct shows they are really enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 They are headed for destruction. Their god is their appetite, they brag about shameful things, and they think only about this life...

Re: Congratulations President Obama

Mensley — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:18:59 -0000

Hm... you think those with anti-faith bigotry issues are much different from those who genuinely hate gays?

Re: Congratulations President Obama

Mensley — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:18:59 -0000

Hm... you think those with anti-faith bigotry issues are much different from those who genuinely hate gays?

Re: The Morning After The Election – Initial Thoughts

Mensley — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:21:07 -0000

Re: The Morning After The Election – Initial Thoughts

Mensley — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:31:55 -0000

Wow. Really good concession speech. I probably would've cried if I'd watched it last night.

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:53:06 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:54:23 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:37:04 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:03:14 -0000

Somebody in here somewhere asked me a question--but that was like 30 comments ago and now I can't remember anything. It's Friday!

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:53:06 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:54:23 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:37:04 -0000

Re: On Chris Fabry Live Concerning Ray Boltz "Coming Out"

Mensley — Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:03:14 -0000

Somebody in here somewhere asked me a question--but that was like 30 comments ago and now I can't remember anything. It's Friday!

Re: The Hulk Has A Bad Body Image and I Think He Might Sell Drugs

Mensley — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:50:02 -0000