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9 hours ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
The cover-up for them all being negligent I cant comprehend but to state they covered up a death, murder or otherwise I just find too far fetched, hence my belief they were negligent because they left children alone but to believe Madeleine woke up and wandered off to look for them and was abducted seems the most realistic possibility to me
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John (Uk) Generally speaking isn't a cover up more likely if the thing is more serious? I don't know, I'm no expert in psychology.

1 day ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I too am of that opinion, will always be disgusted by the parents of Madeleine McCann and I will always be saddened by her image and memory.

Lynn x
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John (Uk) I can't think of any reason to doubt Amaral's theory of accident and cover up - but agree that the wondering off snatching is the only other realistic possibility.

2 weeks ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Just wanted to say that it looks like things are winding up all over the place and that the less we hear on the news about Madeleine the less chance there is we shall ever know. I will keep checking this site to see if any updates but tragically as with many missing children I think Madeleine is sadly gone but never forgotten in the hearts of many who hoped for a happy ending by now and definately in the future. I still am disgusted and feel very justified in saying that Kate and ~Gerry stand for everything I detest in negligent parents and that I feel they should be brought to justice, although if they have any decent bone in their body they will somehow have to deal with this being simply their fault. I would never in a million years leave my children alone and unlike the many that apparently do I hope they have learnt a lesson on how precious our children are. In an ideal world I pray for peace and an end to the horrific suffering children who abused go through, this is just one part of crimes against children, trafficking and slavery being other just as prolific crimes. Hopefully one day, before I die we will find out and be able to put this case to rest and lay Madeleine to rest, if indeed as I suspect she has passed away. I thoroughly appreciate all comments and interesting discussions we have all had and I want to thanks Steve for hosting this blog. Peace to all lynn x
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John (Uk) Lynn,

It does seem to have all come to nought - but I am still checking 3As, websleuths and maccannfiles from time to time. Kate's diary was published - the biggest load of rubbish I ever read. A great letter from Amaral's wife - but all the discussion is just going over and over the same ground, even CM seems to have gone away somewhere!

Anyway cheers to you and Stanley if he is still around and also thanks to Steve for creating this thread.

So sad that we never got truth - but sadder still for Madeleine.

Cheers

John

1 month ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Hi

I too am having problems reading it - I cannot view it flat or new it is not giving me a choice - have to search for newest quotes - Spurs are having a bad start - try being a Geordie!!!!
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John_Uk Same here Lynn - I can't make it flat or old/new and I can't work out why!

I keep looking on 3As and websleuths to see if anything is happening - and basically nothing is - although the way in which the PJ files are coming out is rather odd. The Brit press just publish selective bits with slanted headlines and elsewhere the statements of the T9 and so on seem to be coming out one by one.

Clarence Mitchell has a new job and you just get the sense the whole thing is winding down. I think that if anything does come to light it will be around the mysterious goings on with the fund and Brian Kennedy which I still find inexplicable.

Spurs! At least Newcastle hasn't sold its best strikers to top-four teams!!! Grrrrr!

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I think perhaps that the CM spin coming out now is trying to damn the PJ, damned if they did, damned that they didn't. The Dutch sighting is nothing more than spin, yes it may have happened but think logically WHAT 3 year old can say I have been taken from my holiday, my name is Maddie and they are not my parents. Another thing Gerry and Kate both staated its Madeleine not Maddie so why then would the little girl call herself that???

Surely anyone who came across a girl saying that would ring local police not contact the PJ, all seems way to suss for me.

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Looks like everyone has faded into the background like the Madeleine McCann case has. I don't expext any new developments and I am guessing this case shall remain an unsolved mystery. I just hope one day justice does prevail. I shall check in from time to time. Take care lynn x

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
A couple of doctors spent holidays in Mallorca, in 2005, with David Payne, the McCanns and another couple. The lady says she saw Payne with his finger in his mouth, making a movement in and out, while rubbing his nipple with the other hand. And he was talking about Maddie, next to her father. Those statements should have been given a different treatment by the police. It was relevant to access the information, about doctors, who are just as credible as anyone else.

Surely to goodness IF that is true then Gerry wouldn't be friends with anyone like that, I think the problem here is lie after lie after lie that now those who are telling the truth look like liars and those that lie are beginning to believe their own lies!!!!!!!!
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lynn Looks like everyone has faded into the background like the Madeleine McCann case has. I don't expext any new developments and I am guessing this case shall remain an unsolved mystery. I just hope one day justice does prevail. I shall check in from time to time. Take care lynn x

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
One thing still remains a constant - they were negligent, they left their children home alone, I am sad that nothing seems to be done about that especially when there have been several cases of late in the press about parents being prosecuted for doing just that.

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I presume it will be the case that we will know nothing more than we do now, spend the rest of our lives wondering whatever happened to "that little girl" The McCanns will be "those people" for the rest of their lives and CM will go back to some job in a governmental office and poor Madeleines little face will always bring a tear to my eye.

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Actually I can see a resemblance BUT is this because i want to see it i dont know but it does look similar to Gerry but what does that matter ??? God I cringe at some people I am related too lol and surely Robert would be more gutted at being related to Gerry than the other way round!!

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Thanks Stanley - I don't think I would ever hear my parents say that!!! especially as my husband and two kids are also living with them!


I am not sure what the answer/solution is to stop child trafficking etc, to me the amber alert is a small step in the right direction (probably more useless inter-Europe than UK) but still not the answer. Kate and Gerry somehow manage to flounce around and shoot off on holiday - which to me would be the last thing on my mind - somehow think they will never ever be able to do right for doing wrong BUT they did do wrong!!!

2 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
All said its nice to see that the MEPs have finally voted towards doing something to try to stop children being taken too far away from the place of abduction!!

It seems that all 11000 pieces of evidence collected still couldn't prove the McCanns neglectful!!!!

What I found frightening the other day was after having a conversation with some friends about this sad situation they still did not see that the McCanns were neglectful and they said well we have done it (interestingly they are both health professionals (doctor and dentist)). I must say many of my friends are doctors and they are much mroe blaze about bringing up their children than i am about mine.

And hello sorry not been here much living with parents arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh whilst my house is being refurbished!!!

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I agree this is a huge step for the broadsheets, interesting now that this is coming especially after the express retraction etc. I do think that as liz stated if the McCanns had been more humble and admitted their neglect and fault wholeheartedly a lot more people would have been much more sympathetic but as it stands I think many think simply poor Madeleine for that is the case that she has been missing, presumed dead by the PJ for a year now. More and more I wonder about the McCanns guilt over this and wonder if the PJ have always known more than they are letting on - that is part of the course with the secrecy of course!

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I think i would feel almost relief is the mccanns turned around and said yes it was a tragic accident we got carried away with our lies etc etc then at least i would know madeleine was not in the hands of some vile monster - and i know the money etc but to me its simply about where is that poor little girl

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Thanks John, was just not sure what to say, a year has flown by, so sad, i just hope one day the truth will out, alive or dead it will be nice to get closure to know what really happened, i fear we never will but i truly hope we can learn that Madeleine is now at peace. I too pity Kate and Gerry, I blame them whole heartedly but if 1. they were neglegent and she was abducted etc they have to live with that guilt forever (something i couldnt do) and 2. even if they accidentally killed her they have to deal with that too and keep that secret (again something i couldnt do). Whichever way we look at it, their internal pain is something more than anything we say on these blogs would do to harm them. I still do not know what happened, i still find it ridiculous to think they did it, again i just do not know.

All I do know is that my babies are safe and tucked up in bed and as my little girl is about to turn 3 I just cannot comprehend what the McCanns are going through and as negligent as they were i wouldnt wish that pain on anyone.

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I wanted to say that although we speculate what has happened and who was involved, one thing we do know is that a sweet little 3 year old is missing, irrespective of circumstance, regardless of what happened, for a 3 year old to be missing is a sad sad thing, for Madeleine it is tragic and I just want to take a moment to say that Kate and Gerry have lost their child, Madeleine is who knows where and all are suffering somehow, even though KAte and Gerry left Madeleine they still have lost their daughter, innocent or guilty of her disappearance they still are grieving their child and she still is missing. I will light a candle and pray for Madeleine and all missing children and I hope somehow somewhere the worlds lost children and neglected and abused children somehow see the light at the end of their dark tunnel.

I do not have sympathy with the McCanns for their actions (but guilty of killing Madeleine or of her neglect they still have been without their daughter for a year and it must kill them inside, they live with a burden so huge I cannot comprehend it.)

I pray one day the truth will out and Madeleine will be able to rest in peace or live in peace. Good night and god bless x

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Regardless John with respect I disagree, they left 3 babies alone in a room and went out, that is neglectful and yes other families who do that are neglectful too. To take a calculated risk with children is not something one should ever do. I would never ever do that, they are simply too precious and bad things happen, Madeleine is a sad example of this.

To think that a baby listening service is an acceptable service to me, simply means that the hotel or resort also irresponsible to offer such a service, what part of this seems to be unreal is that people seem accepting in the fact that these children were safe cos someone listened in on them - what a load of tosh - my children are both under 3 and are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too precious to leave in a room alone in a foreign country whilst someone listens in on them - wtf????????? no way at all would i ever allow that. They come with me and if its too late and bedtime then we go to the room, sit on the balcony, play cards etc whilst they sleep sweetly in the room. Those who compare "it was like sitting in our garden" or who say "well people do it all the time and its ok" are full of it, no child should be left alone those parents who do that are down right neglectful and should practice better parenting and the resorts who operate this drop in service should rethink their policies.

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
Stanley said "I loved the way they shrugged off suggestions of neglect. "We have been persecuted enough" said Kate. Piss off dear"

I think this is why they have the negativity they do because they say things like that and we think just that. All along i have said and feel strongly that instead of saying its old hat to say we made a mistake they should just keep saying it, after all not because i think they should be made to feel in the wrong but because it is going over old ground as gerry puts it but it is all old ground so part of the story and part of the fact, when dealing with cases that remain unsolved the basic of facts is often the key to solving it. TO keep hearing Gerry and Kate say we have been persecuted enough sort of makes me think they feel they have served their time and they have paid the price for their neglect whereas to me that is an injustice in itself i would expect or hoped that they were charged with neglect!

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
That doesn't mean anything, like Kate did say in one interview, we did our job, composed ourselves and did what was needed, behind the scenes we crumbled - i guess just because we dont see it doesnt mean it doesnt happen and at the end of the day none of us have been in this situation to know how we would be - perhaps the internal guilt they have to feel about leaving madeleine and siblings along stops them from falling apart perhaps on some psychological level they feel they cant do that for they dont deserve to

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I see another witness has been requestioned, she apparently saw a man hovering suspiciously at the time Madeleine disappeared.

I wanted to ask if anyone has any knowledge of the Freemasons, it is just I hear a rumour Gerry is a member, any ideas???????

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I agree its the lack of remorse that really makes them look guilty, i just saw a broken family but they are too arrogant to bare their souls if you like in public, seeing kate almost half human for some of the program did make me feel for her, more than i ever have but i sobbed through most of it - too soft i know - but i thought how can they be so composed but in saying that she did say she crumbled in the toilet then got on with it and did her job of pleaing for madeleines return. Also i did notice that the idea of the amber alert is overshadowed and almost marred by the mccanns involvement YET it is an excellent idea and should be introduced - this is the problem they are trying to do right but their wrong doings overshadown everything

on breakfast tv this morning i noticed that they simply cannot admit their wrong doing they strategically word answers (?CM) so carefully they admit nothing - its almost like if they tell us they have to kill us

perhaps though even though it is almost a year since this tragic event they see no point in saying yes it was our fault - can kind of understand that and also when you live a situation daily - which none of us do - you become more used to it and more eased at coping with it than those who are, like ourselves, mere spectators and distant of the true emotions. i say this because i lost a family friend who lives in canada, it still devastates me to think of him, it has been over 2 years now and his family are ok and ocmposed about the situation because they live in canada and deal with it daily, for me i just see the situation from a distance and dont get closure as its diffcult to do so when im not living it 24/7 - one thing the mccanns said did ring true their publicity - self inflicted - takes away from madeleine so then i wonder why they dont hush and be shushed.

good link on sky by former criminologist on the case and his theory http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13...

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I know you will be dying to comment on the documentary tonight so i will give my opinion on it...

up unti the point when kate told of Madeleines tears for the night before when she asked why didnt you come i felt pity for the McCanns but then again they angered me with the comments "why didnt we ask what she meant about crying and why we didnt come" when the true answer, any respectable parent would have stated is "wow, i cant believe we left them and they cried, we will never leave our babies again"

the next point i would like to make, as i do think Kate and Gerry may read this, from comments she has made about bloggers etc is that I, we on here are not nasty nor do we say nasty things, we state a fact, a truth that you and Gerry were neglectful in your actions and as a result Madeleine, more than anyone has suffered. I watch the documentary with tears running down my face, i always have, probably always will find this upsetting. What I cannot understand is how any parent can blame the PJ etc and anyone else but themselves, not one admittance of guilt.

Funny how the camera never lies!!!!!!!!!! starts as pity ends as disgust!!!!!!

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
I also hear that Kate stated they thought about staying in as they didn't have a buggy, had they had one they would have taken them........wow how many parents go on holiday without buggy's.......how many parents would take their children to a restaurant regardless as its a "family" holiday. This sort of statement makes things worse - Madeleine loses her life - dead or alive her life is gone as she knew it because oops we didnt have a buggy!!!
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stanley Even worse Lynn they have twins. Friends of ours had twins and an older child, they would no more think of crossing their own threshold without the twins buggy as they would without clothing. How do you transport 3 children under 4 on holiday without a buggy? Impossible. So why did they not take the buggy? Simple because they never intended for the children to go anywhere on this "family" holiday. I have long believed that the only way that the public will understand what a selfish nasty pair of people these are is out of their own mouths. The more they tell us the more loathsome they become. Thank god they are so arrogant they are going to hang themselves. Just imagine if they had kept a dignified silence after expressing regret at leaving their children. We would all be mourning with them on Saturday. I also wonder why Kate's mum is only telling us now that the first thing she said to her daughter was "Where were you?" Maybe that was one of the 40 questions she did not care to answer.

5 months ago

in A New Open Thread For Madeleine McCann: Six Months Later on True Crime Talk
But Stanley its the way they say it!!!!
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