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11 months ago
in 2008/08/05/government-2-an-insiders-perspective/ on Mashable - The Social Media Guide
Now Mark... I certainly did not say the Govt. is
"all-knowing, all-seeing entity that is on top of every question, every answer, every option, every solution, and every new technology."
For you to attempt to turn my statement into something is clearly wasn't is *exactly* where the problem is. Of course, anyone can twist words. Why would "we" want to assist Governments so that they can turn around and attempt to manipulate us.
Again, my statement was: I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one."
Mark, please do not perpetuate the perception (and reality) of the Government BS through SN/SM.
"all-knowing, all-seeing entity that is on top of every question, every answer, every option, every solution, and every new technology."
For you to attempt to turn my statement into something is clearly wasn't is *exactly* where the problem is. Of course, anyone can twist words. Why would "we" want to assist Governments so that they can turn around and attempt to manipulate us.
Again, my statement was: I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one."
Mark, please do not perpetuate the perception (and reality) of the Government BS through SN/SM.
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11 months ago
in 2008/08/05/government-2-an-insiders-perspective/ on Mashable - The Social Media Guide
Well written post Mark.
Call me naive but, I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one. For some reason it is really hard for me to believe that this is not the case.
Basically, the idea I am getting from you is that the Govt. is kind of relying on public companies to *learn* and *implement* SN/SM strategies/tactics for Govt. military use. Yes, I understand it makes sense to leverage other peoples time/money/tech/R&D for the benefit of your objectives.
To be honest it's kinda like this: The Govt. wants "us" to show them how to use the tools/methods of communication. Which is fine but, I feel like the Govt. "whisperers" will use the channels to attempt to manipulate our thoughts. Now, of course, this is not the only way the Govt. will utilize SN/SM but, is must be a concern for us regular folks. This would be *GovernmentSpam* and it could be the worst SPAM we have experienced. But, hell, it's already part of mainstream media & Hollywood.
Mark, I think you are a GREAT guy. My response is not personal whatsoever.
Call me naive but, I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one. For some reason it is really hard for me to believe that this is not the case.
Basically, the idea I am getting from you is that the Govt. is kind of relying on public companies to *learn* and *implement* SN/SM strategies/tactics for Govt. military use. Yes, I understand it makes sense to leverage other peoples time/money/tech/R&D for the benefit of your objectives.
To be honest it's kinda like this: The Govt. wants "us" to show them how to use the tools/methods of communication. Which is fine but, I feel like the Govt. "whisperers" will use the channels to attempt to manipulate our thoughts. Now, of course, this is not the only way the Govt. will utilize SN/SM but, is must be a concern for us regular folks. This would be *GovernmentSpam* and it could be the worst SPAM we have experienced. But, hell, it's already part of mainstream media & Hollywood.
Mark, I think you are a GREAT guy. My response is not personal whatsoever.
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Aronado
Now Mark... I certainly did not say the Govt. is
"all-knowing, all-seeing entity that is on top of every question, every answer, every option, every solution, and every new technology."
For you to attempt to turn my statement into something is clearly wasn't is *exactly* where the problem is. Of course, anyone can twist words. Why would "we" want to assist Governments so that they can turn around and attempt to manipulate us.
Again, my statement was: I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one."
Mark, please do not perpetuate the perception (and reality) of the Government BS through SN/SM.
"all-knowing, all-seeing entity that is on top of every question, every answer, every option, every solution, and every new technology."
For you to attempt to turn my statement into something is clearly wasn't is *exactly* where the problem is. Of course, anyone can twist words. Why would "we" want to assist Governments so that they can turn around and attempt to manipulate us.
Again, my statement was: I assumed that the Govt. had it's *hand* in SN & SM since day one."
Mark, please do not perpetuate the perception (and reality) of the Government BS through SN/SM.
Mark Drapeau
Thanks for your comments. I mean this in a nice way, but it is somewhat naive to assume that government is an all-knowing, all-seeing entity that is on top of every question, every answer, every option, every solution, and every new technology.
The government in reality is a very large and complex system of institutions that often have self-interests and do not necessarily coordinate with each other. How often do the FDA, the Federal Reserve, NASA, and the Senate get in the same room together? Never. That's just the way it is - it's NOT like a corporation. And also, many decisions are directly or indirectly related to "politics" in the broadest sense.
Not everyone is in the dark on social tools. The intelligence community has made amazing inroads with Intellipedia and other tools. Some of the blogs from the TSA, USPS and other places are great. I talk about that more in my next post. But largely, we could be using the tools a lot more and a lot better, in many areas, and I hope that some of my work brings the secotr more attention.
The government in reality is a very large and complex system of institutions that often have self-interests and do not necessarily coordinate with each other. How often do the FDA, the Federal Reserve, NASA, and the Senate get in the same room together? Never. That's just the way it is - it's NOT like a corporation. And also, many decisions are directly or indirectly related to "politics" in the broadest sense.
Not everyone is in the dark on social tools. The intelligence community has made amazing inroads with Intellipedia and other tools. Some of the blogs from the TSA, USPS and other places are great. I talk about that more in my next post. But largely, we could be using the tools a lot more and a lot better, in many areas, and I hope that some of my work brings the secotr more attention.
Trust me, it is not all over social media today. There are some people and institutions (say, NASA's presence on Twitter) that are trying it out, and in some cases doing it right, but largely there is not a Web 2.0 way of thinking in the government, and there is little across-agency coordination of Web 2.0 efforts and technologies.
I hope that my research and writing raises awareness of these important issues both within government - where more people should be using these tools - and outside of governmnet, where tech companies of various stripes can participate in Web 2.0 for public service.