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Re: Trying to Understand Symbolism

Tim Ogilvy — Sun, 07 Jan 2007 21:10:20 -0000

Well...

if someone took a foto of my mum... just any old foto, and urinated... I would laugh. I have no idea why they would bother. Mum would laugh too.

Reverence is a choice. Choose it because of what you become through it.

But maybe I'm just a crazy existentiallist.

Re: Dismantling the Empire: The Promise of Financial Security

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:08:46 -0000

well i dunno about the empire metaphore discussion...

I was just thinking in my own life about the difference between taking responsibility for financial stability and growth... and being afraid of the world.

Somewhere there's a ballance between trusting God, and not asking God to do for you, what God has asked you to do for him. A ballance I often miss I suspect.

I'm certainly not interested in wealth for the sake of wealthfulness... but i do want to be family guy one day... and that means there's a need for stability and security... and at 25 and with a lot of thoughts running through my head... and no full time career of any kind... thats suddenly a scary proposition. Fear vs responsibility you know. Hard one to ballance.

Tim

Re: The Geoff Weird Six

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:05:06 -0000

Hey Geoff... this isn't a comment at all, its just me doing some shameless self promotion. (but I did enjoy reading wierd things about you)

I posted some more on my disordered thoughts (wanged for short) blog about the way we influence things... http://www.wanordelijkegedacthen.blogspot.com

and my new one is an exploration of holistic living, I'm particularly (but not exclusively) interested in getting a ballanced perspective on what that means for MEN, after I got jealous because of laura's celebration of women bleeding... and we don't bleed... so what should we celeberate instead? I wonder if you can be seduced to comment over there... http://www.peaceisaparadox.blogspot.com.

If you are offended by this utilitarian use of your comment facility I will of course suffer deletion gracefully.

Thanks mate!

Tim

Re: Nothing says bereavement…

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:40:43 -0000

Wow... what a lovely thing,

I might get me one for my dismantlepeice.

Sledge hammer anyone?

You have an eye for eyerony GeoffReporter... I have to say.

lack of sleep is to blame for the wit and clarity of this comment. 5am starts and freekin flowers all day.

By the way... I have to drive dad's car to dry it or it gets dusty while its still wet. Hence the hooligan you encountered on the road today. As if thats some kind of excuse.

mmmmm excuse

Re: Sources of Theology

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 00:07:52 -0000

When through the hymns, and modern songs I wander, I read the words and need to scratch my head.

So what if I need to scratch my head! God made with a thinker, so I might as well use it.

I'm with Laura on the whole seeing it as a metaphor thing... and yeah the bridgy bit backs that up...

But I also can't deny feeling a bit wierd singing it.

Since we all come from slightly different places in our heads, that means we have to understand context and choose to empathise (or not to) with the content of any given song. In big words, our worldview will determine our immediate connection, and our capacity to empathise will determine our secondary understanding.

That is the universal truth of existentialism :P

That should confuse even the most hardened phillosopher. But in simple terms, if we mistakenly assume that everyone misunderstands things in the same way, we risk choosing to follow only one particular brand of metaphor, and in so doing, lose the kind of diversity that might hopefully mean everyone finds at least one song, or one verse perhaps, that they understand and connect with.

So essentially our dislike of certain lyrical arrangements represents a kind of 'my world view is best' bigotry and selfishness. I see this attitude in everyone except myself, due entirely to my incredible ability to be perceptive, and certainly in no part to the internal bias of my own perspective.

I feel dizzy.

Re: Sources of Theology

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:47:45 -0000

Perhaps another valuable question might be, why are we so paranoid?

Clearly we were singing a christian song in a church that contained a metaphor about God. I remember when I was 6 my dad told me I could defeat any evil thing just by saying the words 'jesus is lord' and so I used to run around everywhere saying it under my breath like some kind of fearful mantra. That's sooo not a God thing.

If you don't know who you are worshiping because you got lost in between the bridge and the chorus, you may want to consider booking in for a memory loss prevention program. Why are we christian goldfish?

Of course I am as guilty as any.

Re: Sources of Theology continued…

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:58:38 -0000

Wow... there are so many frameworks by which to analyse this topic...

Why on earth should worshiping God through song have to have anything directly to do with how we see our neighbour? That seems ridiculously utilitarian, and about as poetic as the anual general meeting of boredom corporation.

Surely focusing on the beauty and wonder of God in worship, and allowing that to soak in, will very directly influence the way we relate to others anyway. Besides which living a life of worship is about treating others well... and only a smidgeon about singing pretty songs.

Gosh I still think we're being a bit insecure about it. Perfection is unatainable, and somewhat boring. If there was a perfect formula for the perfect worhsip song I guess we'd all be standing around like cherubim singing "holy holy holy".

Oddly I think God created us with our quirky idiosyncracies becaues he quite enjoys diversity.

So instead of standing in judgment over one persons idea of poetic and romantic lyricism, perhaps we would do as well to focus on putting our energy into worshiping in the best way we know how. Anyone who wishes to theologise songwriting had better do so with an instrument and a pen in their hands... because its not an easy task.

>>Small section removed to remind Tim to be nice to people<<

(My reason for having strong opions is simple: I'm just opinionated! :o) )

Re: What time is it?

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:01:38 -0000

should be bl@@dy valiumtimes day

Re: Sources of Theology continued…

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:12:49 -0000

I know a song by Ron Kenoly... its called the center of my joy... or something... and it goes a little something like this...

Jesus you're placenta of my Joy.

Joke Joke.

Is God my God, or am I his Tim?

Or are we united? Am I making myself equal with God to say my?

If you feel wierd about, you are beautiful my sweet sweet song... perhaps its because a song is something I create... whereas God is the creator.

So 'my' and 'God' work together like 'my' and 'father' work together.

But to many people 'my' and 'song' work together like 'my' and 'painting'... a created work.

To claim to posses and to have created God would be wierd. The fact that that's clearly not the intended statement... as you say... doesn't change the potential for confusion.

Perhaps we could rate this song PGR (pastoral guidance recommended) and let it go? Or perhaps we could just appreciate the fact that the question it raises probably inspires people to find some new depth in their understanding of worship and theology.

If we spoonfeed the church apple babymush forever, it will never grow teeth.

Re: Sources of Theology continued…

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 20:18:48 -0000

p.s. this particular topic demonstrates the influence of linguistics on meaning. I can't remember who I had a discussion about that with recently... but it matters.

Its why feminists get so fired up about the language of abuse. For hundreds of years the way we have used language has subtly but strongly undermined the status of women. Often what you don't say is as influential.

But at the end of the day... no change of language can replace a change of heart. The change of heart coms first and then the language follows.

To get back to being relevant for a second... the key thing behind this worship song is not the chosen words, but the state of the heart. How responsible is the worship leader for being paranoid about every possible interpretation of words? I hate to be the postmodernist... but everyone will have their own interpretation anyway... as is abundantly apparent here.

Re: Sources of Theology continued…

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:02:05 -0000

gosh thats fair.

Sorry i was in one of those mooods. I should tie my hands behind my back on days like this.

(tries to visualise myself tying my own hands behind my back)

So yeah the vineyard guy didnt have any more work for me hence sitting at home reading blogs and being an irritating smarty pants.

Sorry Geoff

Re: Sources of Theology continued…

Tim Ogilvy — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:56:27 -0000

wow :) I smiled at your nice words... but feel a little intimidated by the way your face is looking at me in that photo hehe.

Re: Recent Developments

Tim Ogilvy — Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:51:49 -0000

gosh I'm glad someone knew what it all meant

I thought maybe geoff had decided to have a big compression session in the chimney.

Or perhaps Gandalf had stopped by.

Re: Just in case you didn’t hear me

Tim Ogilvy — Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:23:44 -0000

am I the first to try the download? has the file moved?

I'd like to hear it if you can email me a fresh link or i'll check back in a day or two.

Tim

Re: Just in case you didn’t hear me

Tim Ogilvy — Fri, 02 Mar 2007 20:04:52 -0000

sooo um

can I EQ it for you next time before you publish? Not that I'm quite sure how yet, but you need to pull back the low mid and bass and boost the high mid/high.

apart from that... its really good :)

Re: Clean Up Australia Day

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:38:48 -0000

Hey Geoff!!

I'm not one to boast or anything buuuuuut.... (I'm going to anyway)

I pulled another two trollies out of the creek and filled them both with rubbish, after everyone else had gone home!

There... now I'm not storing up treasures in heaven, I'm just being a glib exhibitionist on earth. I'm proud of my trollies!

MMmmm Trollies.

Tim

Re: Clean Up Australia Day

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 06 Mar 2007 22:26:12 -0000

but... seriously can I question something...

" And it’s got to be a good thing to be out there and making a difference to the environment. Especially if it’s not just a jump-on-the-bandwagon thing."

How effective do you think we really were?

What were our aims, and how well did we fulfill them?

Re: Rotating Headerish Goodness

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:38:36 -0000

haha i thought this was going to be all about silence of the lambs...

Geoff with a rotating head...

Looks good mate

Re: I just want to fix it!

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:52:27 -0000

Haha

I read this, and I thought of a few things I was hoping it related to. Geoff... can i fix you? pweeeeeeaaaaaaase?

not that i'm ever guilty of the same thing or anything.

Even Chris Martin has trouble with it... (and I will try-ei-ei to fix you)

I think the Taoists have a remarkable knack for figuring this stuff out... and if you are brave Geoff, and unaffraid that you may become an instant heretic, I recommend you look up their stuff. Actually they're a bunch of pretty wise chinese dudes who sat around and figured out some basic things about life and wrote it down.

What will be, will be.

God grant me the courage to change the things I can,
the grace to accept the things I can't,
and the wisdom to know the difference.
(the AA prayer)

Its tough when as christians we try to take responsibility for our influence over everything... and not just for the things we are specifically responsible for.

Often we get so focused on trying to MAKE things happen when we should only be saying "this is what I believe is best, and this is how I will support that" and then walking away. I'm really struggling with that with Young Adults at the moment. There are so many things we've set as goals that have fallen by the wayside, so many great ideas and things we could be, do, and acheive... and I want to MAKE that happen... but its neither my responsibility, nor my place to do that.

Re: Round 14 - Starting To Believe

Tim Ogilvy — Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:11:55 -0000

well geoff, it appears that that askimet gizmo is not everything its cracked up to be.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

:o)

Tim

Re: Google Ethics™

Tim Ogilvy — Wed, 16 May 2007 01:52:07 -0000

Its an interesting question Geoff..

How dependant is google indexing on random database processes, and how much of it is deliberately priotised or interventionally ranked?

If its a databasing monster then effectively goolge can't be blamed for the fact that the s#!t floats to the top... whether they want to decide to have an ethics committee who look for and adress such bais is another question.

I was thinking about that in relation to a christian publishing company that published a book out of context that had some pretty damaging ramifications for australian young people as compared to what it meant in america where it was written.

Are they responsible?

They certainly have the opportunity to respond... but are they obliged to? I guess it depends on how you construct your ethics!

Re: Slice of Silliness | TheGeoffRe(y)port

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:47:10 -0000

I have to admit, and to coin a mickism, I have been "delvaging" into the debate and reading my own slice of slice. There's some interesting and heated dialogue out there!

Its nice to see some diverse views even amongst the SBC, I've been reading a blog i found through a link to a link from your blog... http://mcelroycounseling.com/notes/ which got me reading slice, and some other stuff as well.

It strikes me that the emergent movement is just a percentile thing... people have been saying similar things for many decades, but its only in recent times that communication and technology have allowed the dissillusioned minority to discover that they are more normal, perhaps even, dare I say it, more common, than they previously felt. What disturbs me, parrelel with the recent trend of punk outfits being sold in department stores, is the idea of counter-culture becoming pop-culture.

I had to read about sola-scriptura to make head or tail of the allegations being made against Rob Bell in some of those posts, and I came to the conclusion I dont believe in sola-scriptura either... and I don't think its a scandal. Whose intepretation is it that is so self evident? Which translation? Why do they always seem to tell me that its the old king james bible that the reformation belief (named in latin) of sola-scriptura defines as the self evident word of God?

Why did the Americans declare it to be self evident that all men are created equal, and have to be divided over unrelated politics before abolishing the slavery that, naked, and blissfuly ignored, mocked the foundation of their independance?

If it was self evident, why did so many of the founding fathers have slaves, and not think to free them when they penned and claimed beif in the statement "all men are created equal".

Which is a roundabout way of giving another example of how ideas change. Its irrisistable to ask why 'sola-scriptura', which as I understand it, was mostly about breaking the power of the interprative institution of the catholic church, rather than blocking the interpretaive freedom of the individual, came about during the reformation. How many hundreds of years after christ? You'd think if it was utterly foundational, He might have mentioned it Himself at some stage. No, it seems to be (if wiki can be trusted) traced back to Luther, who was in fact, an unpopular reformer (and probably called a liberal) in his day.

Liberalism and liberty tend to become nonsense words, and perhaps do begin to represent moral decline, when we stop remebering to ask the important questions "what are we being liberated from?" and "What are we being liberated for?"

Wow what a rant. Feel free to edit me or ditch it... just that you got my brain ticking over and it bubbled out. So thanks... :o)

Re: Slice of Silliness | TheGeoffRe(y)port

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:19:22 -0000

Oh in case that all seems a little left field... one of the websites had a more in-depth critique of Rob and accused him of "rejecting the foundational doctrine of sola-scriptura."

Perhaps I am just a lunatic existentialist. I'm probably going to hell, since the writings of gay french atheist existstentialist, post-structuralist, communist (and then not-communist) friend of simone de Bouviour and other miscelaneous evils, Micheal Foucault, make a lot of sense to me. Or maybe I'm a feminist. It gets confusing.

Anyway there's a name for dogged dedication to a long departed way of knowing: naive-realism: the belief that the way "I" see the world IS the world. That's why God is frequently stuck speaking King James English. Clearly no English teachers have made it to heaven since the day they departed from teaching the Kings English. And its no wonder Jesus sweat drops of blood the night before his crucifiction... in order to understand the Father's will, he had to translate Olde Englishe into Aramaic without a dictionary.

Any dogged unbending dedication to the Reformation, or the Nicean council or any other post-ascention update on Christian Ideology, is a dead theology (although all of those theologies live on in dialogue). A century from now, if we dont scorch our own planet, Rob Bell and Brian McLaren will be remembered as the prolific writers, and voices of a changing era, and people will cling to their teaching doggedly, shunning the voices of whatever shake-up is renewing life in that century.

Today's trend will be tomorrows Tradition.

I'm pretty sure anyone who can be bothered will shoot 12 guage holes in everything I've just said... but hey... thats okay (if its okay with Geoff that is) hope I haven't lost the topic too much Geoff. Anyway a few holes are good... nice view of the sky and trees and so forth.

Re: What should submission to leadership look like?

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 05:15:19 -0000

Hmmm this topic intrigues me Geoff!

I think its a very very significantly misunderstood, and abused concept.

I'd like to hear someone analyse the historical and social construct that surrounds these two bible verses!

How do we explain this in relation to Jesus saying "I have come to turn the sons against the fathers" etc. (anyone pedantic enough to tell me i've misquoted is welcome to post the correct quote)?

What do we make of Bonhoffer? Evil criminal, or insightful servant of God?

Where does submission end? What sorts of things are we free not to submit to? What sort of things do we have a moral imperritive not to submit to?

So many more Q's but I have to go down to SES.

All I can say in closing, is that I'm a Hawthorn supporter :P HAR HAR HAR HAR

well anyway I'm paying attention to my team for the first time in 10 years, but right now you're pobably trying to forget yours exists ;)

Re: What should submission to leadership look like?

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:31:03 -0000

Hmm so yeah...

Another bible verse to think about "He that would be greatest amongst you, let him be the servant of all.

How many religious leaders do you know? How many of them come to you and ask how they can better serve you?

Is the church member the servant of the pastor, or the pastor the servant of the churches members?

Tim

Re: Forty Feet Gopher

Tim Ogilvy — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:08:22 -0000

On the hall of fame:

Evangelist = Evil's Agent

wow!

Re: Forty Feet Gopher

Tim Ogilvy — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:37:47 -0000

Yarra valley vineyard = Ally rev arrive any day

Re: Theology of Contraception

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:38:57 -0000

haha :) argh! Its quite disconscerting trying to write a reply to this post with that sentance just ^^ there looking down at me, and all the implications of it echoing in my head while I try to think clinically and rationally about whatever it was I logged back on to your site to try and add to this conversation.

I think all I really wanted to do is point out how difficult it is to use any derivative, relative, or friend of the word 'liberal' to describe anything you might wish to believe about sexuality, without feeling as though people will immediately assume you've joined a swingers club, and are planning to run naked through the streets of jerusalem with a burning upsidedown crucafix painted on your right buttock.

And yet surely a Christian theology of contraception, fitting as a part, into a Christian theology of sexuality should ultimately be a liberating thing!

Things it might be nice to be liberated from:
> Cultural Expectations
> Social (where they differ) Expectations
> Religious Traditions (cultural expectations that claim spiritual authority)
> Spiritual Obligations (well now there's a paradox... but things can be spiritual without necessarily being Godly...)

Its a juicy topic Geoff, and its certainly got a lot of people thinking and writing which is nice to see! You have a knack for drawing these things out which I really admire.

Fortunately, since you don't appear to be planning on being liberal in any of the non-endorsed senses of the word, you will have many happy years of marriage to play with all of these ideas (although I don't necessarily recommend trying the spirit lead birth control after visiting uncle chop-chop... the results might be predictable)((but then I almost definitely don't recommend it before visiting uncle chop-chop either... which renders my advice somewhat tortological and useless)).

And now I remind myself of the stupid clever guy from the princess bride... which might be the only thing I can say to justify the double perenthisis I indulged in above.

As a reader of your blog Geoff, I am really greatful to you, and to the others who have shared so openly, and in some cases really movingly, (is that even a word?) for giving my brain another good reason to clunk and whirr back into action, however briefly... regardless of the fact that I have no likely use for any of what I have learned here in the easily forseable future. (In otherwords I'm just an opinionated git :) )

Re: What a dreamer!

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:31:37 -0000

Heya GeoffGeoff,

I'm gonna go check that one in a minute... and if I like it I'll tell you what I am... but if it says mean things about me then it was a bad test anway ;o)... in the mean time... here are my personal dna results as promised, and here, and here, because I know we all like to be lazy, are links to what I'm hoping (if my links work), are yours and Bec's results, as posted by each of you, for your, (and unfortunately everyone elses... but they could always have looked it up anyway) multi-tab browser comparisson and enjoyment ;)

You might especially enjoy noticing my authoritarian score. I'm still not sure whether to interpret it as good or bad. I like it a lot... and I'm pretty sure thats evidence on the side of why its... bad. In my defence: Greenday and the Living End. Yep... that's my defence.

(because I'm a brat, and I know everything and I talk back, and I'm not gonna be another prisoner of society, society, society... Oi, Oi, Oi).

I like me, but I'm pretty sure if we were all me, the world would be really really messy... or... serenely still and beautiful except for the smell of rotting me carcasess that all the other me's had killed because when it came down to it, me found me so irritating that me had to kill me.

There can be only one. (did I just hear a relieved sigh?)

(unfortunately most of your readers haven't seen highlander so none of them know why that was a funny quote and not (just) a stupid thing to say)

I have indulged myself enough for one comment. I'll try and keep my next comment as breif as... four letters.

Re: What a dreamer!

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:51:15 -0000

I seem to have a knack for loosing perfectly good comments and emails at the moment... and I have invented a new cuss word to describe my consternation at this fact... that I hope is not too offensive for your blog. It is this: "PEWFISH".

There now I said it. (and I sound like a complete idiot)

So in reference to the reference to an earlier reference to an earlier referee:

My personalDNA Report

I did actually put together a cute little comment that had links to yours and becs results also so that you could easily jiggy them up side by side and unleash your curiousity... but coding html stops being fun ooh about the second time around.

You may notice my authoritarian score, which I find amusing and quite like about myself, which has to be a bad thing. I blame Greenday. Now most of your other readers probably want to kill me... but such is life I guess.

I think you may also notice that I am higher in femininity than either you or Bec, which I think is fantastic, because I really like girls. Anyway I know what the test measures for that statistic and I think the traits 'traditionally assosciated with men' are a good measure of "stuck in the 1800'sness" which is now officially the century before last (has been for 7 years!), and that makes me feel even more progressive, even tho I only thought of it just then.

I'm NOT making excuses. Its just that (sniff) sometimes I just feel like men don't really understand me at all (sniff).... oh, I mean other men! Oops.

Its just a pity they didnt have a measure for opinionatedness... or writingtoomuchonotherpeoplesblogsness... I would be the king of those categories.
I'm gonna go do the test you quoted above, and if its nice to me, I promise you I'll make my next comment very very short. Four letters short.

Tim

Re: What a dreamer!

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:00:27 -0000

ENFP

Re: What a dreamer!

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 11:04:09 -0000

bugger... thats very very irritating and embarassing... it turns out they worked but my first one took about oooh 20 minutes to appear. Please please mr Editor can you delete something and make me look better!? I'm not so worried about your blog, as I am about my illustrious reputation. keh, who am I fooling.

Tim

Re: Politics, Christians and Homosexuality

Tim Ogilvy — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:27:46 -0000

Heya Geoff!

Didn't realise you hadn't heard these people in action in this way before. Don't know if I've bitched to you personally about it... but this is why the ACL get absolutely no support from me... in fact personally I think they have their hand in their pants.

I had the opportunity just before the last election to hear Jim Wallace speak, and he constantly used metaphor about Gays being "the enemy" in some kind of mortal battle. Because he's apparently some big important political figure, the church I was attending couldnt do enough to bend over for him. Do we want these people to be the face of christianity? Are any of us angry enough to start a different christian lobby group?

I rather enjoyed pointing out to him that while rhetoric about defeating an 'enemy' in battle might work for the baby boomer generation, if the ACL wanted to actually gain the support of my generation they were going to need to be a little more creative. I then questioned what the ACL was doin to show christ's love to the homosexual community. He responded like a politician who knows he's been outmanouvered. He started talking before he knew what he was going to say... he flushed... he looked embarassed... admitted they were doing very little and that it needed to change... and then tried to argue that any money given to support gay aids victims etc was getting used as ammunition in the war against family values.

The guy isn't stupid... he's very smart, but he's fighting for the fear and prejudice of the conservative bible belt baby boomers. His intellegence and advocacy would have been better used educating the same people about how UNCHRISTIAN their prejudice really is.

Unfortunately the major churches continue to bend over and take it from organisations like the ACL because they are so giggly and excited about having a face in politics... and they think these people are God's annointed ones sent to deliver them. In our lust for power we have forgotten to reflect critically on our morals and on our stance, and the Australian church as it is voiced and seen in our community is now a Pariah and a mindless neo-conservative mass putting its weight behind something which is so insignificant to the key values of Christianity... it has some significants, but it's minescule compared to the massive, and frequently ignored issues that plague this country of Aboriginal rights and welfare, and the increasingly intellectual and business orientated economy that favours the elite, and makes it increasingly difficult for those in the poverty trap to break free.

Its another giant exercise in missing the point.

Re: Now you can look after me

Tim Ogilvy — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:39:37 -0000

lol wow

If introverts ran the world, we extroverts would go mad and start a revolution just for something to do to make up for the complete lack of mental stimulation.

Maybe introvers should all just plug into the matrix and eat imaginary steak while the rest of us go about the business of living! ;o)

There's evidence to suggest that the Myers Briggs and Big Five measurements of Introversion are not prescriptive personality Traits, but are in fact an external expression of the function of a persons intrinsic motivation. Some people's motivation functions in a way that means they always want to avoid social situations, but in others it is entirely context dependant. This is why some apparent introverts appear to go bipolar in midlife and suddenly turn into party animals.

Sometimes it is all about intrinsic motivation, and sometimes its about social/environmental paradigm.... so a person in the second category who suddenly experiences a paradigm shift, is subsequently empowered to live out their true inspiration and engage with people.

Strangely, some extroverts might actually be introverts who are so far out of their comfort zone they are pathologically driven to socialise as a survival mechanism.

As they like to say in scholarly circles... when people assume, they make a small grey beast of burden out of self and other.

Re: An Open Letter To The Geelong Football Club

Tim Ogilvy — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:59:56 -0000

ah well its just nice to see some victorian teams up there.

My old little league socks are crying in the sock draw. They're brown and gold, and they thought they might have had a reason to come out and be worn (yes they still fit after many years of stretching and washing!).

Why oh why Hawthorn, did you have to take your eyes off the ball?

But apart from that, GO GEELONG!!! it is good to see one of the old great teams of the game in the running again!

Its something that victorian's know deep down. AFL is our game. We just let other people play it out of national spirit. But they shouldn't win.

Go Footesgray!!! ah the good old days.

Re: And God Chose The Foolish Things…

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:13:56 -0000

I love the quote Geoff, but it amuses me as well...

It's a bit like the temptation to quote the verse that says Christ came to help the sick not the healthy... and in so doing imply that gays, blacks, metalheads, women, and other minority groups are 'sick' for being what they are.

To the mainstream, it feels like an expression of tolerance, but I think perhaps minority groups might feel a tad differently about it.

But I guess not excluding them from our lives and conversations is probably the first step towards letting their voices be heard so we can understand how much work will need to be done to make the journey from avoidance, through tolerance, to acceptance.

Re: And God Chose The Foolish Things…

Tim Ogilvy — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:20:23 -0000

Oh I should have read the whole article first, it comes across a lot stronger!

Onya Tony Campolo!

The Rich Mullins quote was just funny to me, but I guess it was target at WASPy christians so it made sense in context.

Re: Yearning For Summer Heights

Tim Ogilvy — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:26:09 -0000

Amen to that Pauly. Geoff, you should take up my career I never pursued and do outdoor education... become a fearless outdoor leader. Hehe.

You have the 'child of teachers' bug I think.

Still... a dip-ed with teaching methods in theology and IT would be a feasabile thing for you.

What I like about the idea is that I'd be able to have serious conversations with you about educational outcomes and discipline strategies and you wouldn't look at me like I was some kind of freak. Now that would be an exciting day.

Re: Sex and Politics

Tim Ogilvy — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:47:51 -0000

is that left as in UK left or American left, which is our right, making the leftists right and the rightists left.

When it comes to understanding political systems I feel like I've been left right out.

Re: Mr and Mrs

Tim Ogilvy — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:03:55 -0000

Wow I really really really hope for your sake you had full comp insurance, cos thats gonna hurt otherwise.

On the bright side... if you did, you get to start married life with a brand new car!?

Remind me if I ever get married and drive my car to take out full comp!

Not that either of those things seems likely or practical any time soon.