DISQUS

OK, Ray, I think I got your point. Go high, aim top, loose small trick and go for the big boys.

Perfectly agree.

However, what about small bizs or begginers or ones starting with a low & limited assets ? They may want to go high road but can't ...
Which ends to a two possible ways out: a) the "I can justify al my income except first million"; b) get a job.


Or maybe there is a third way too ... ? Like .. low road, for example ... trimed and as open as possible .. ?


Valentin Hornicar
Bucuresti, Romania

Why ?

I mean, why while I read this post twice, both times pops in my mind a certain passage from Henry Thoreau's "Civil disobedience"?

"
..... A very few--as heroes, patriots, martyrs, reformers in the great sense, and men--serve the state with their consciences also, and so necessarily resist it for the most part; and they are commonly treated as enemies by it. A wise man will only be useful as a man, and will not submit to be "clay," and "stop a hole to keep the wind away," but leave that office to his dust at least.
"

And I must ask you, Ray, WHY ?

Is it because you know allready that one of vital keys to make things work is first understand them (how they work, what's the requirements, what can result) then after decide if is to be done or not ?
Is it because you lived at full the 60's - 70's and understand those times "flavour" ?
Is it because you see that the "progress" of -as exemple, but not limited to - internet marketing is videos as opposite to READ/WRITE ? (I'm sure is worldwide phenomenon that youth-but-not-only is less and lesser attracted to books and/or reading and more to audio/video. George Carlin (RIP) have several of his audio books starting with "I'm George Carlin and I gonna read my book for you. You must find somebody else to understand it for you".)


Best regards,

Valentin "wmraul" Hornicar
Bucuresti, Romania

One thing is for sure: even a noob like me who actually never learned english in school or private class can feel and understand that sales letters must be written GOOD.

Maybe that "guru" (it could be only a guru, real internet marketers woulnd't be able to say that) had in mind that notoriuos phraze said by I don't remember who about a tousend momnkies typing random would re-write Shakespeare's work within a given time.

There is the point where I personaly draw a line between a guru and a real internet marketer : "Those people are already your customers".
FALSE !
I hardly can think to something more inaccurate. Is not "your costumer". Is "your costumer FOR NOW", until he click the unsubscribe link.

Vacheron Constantin and Rolls-Royce are probably the best quality watches & cars worldwide. Quality top. All you must do is wear / drive. Still, both need a certain level of maintenance; far far less than average but if you badly want them perfect .. Same (in fact far more) is about your costumer. Give them not enough attention, show them lack of respect and sooner or later you'll loose'em. Period.

Why ? Because there is no perpetuum mobile, does not exist.

My 2 cents.



Valentin Hornicar (aka wmraul)
Bucuresti, Romania

ps: about the recent downloaded interview: ... buah ! That's not an interview, is a "how to" serie of lections ... THANK YOU, Ray !

Vlad :

- I won`t subscribe to feeds. Because I`m about to begin a war to feeds subscribing as being another branch of useless-blog-classifications.

- I won`t remove the link back to this blog.

- I won`t hesitate to keep coming here everyday - directly from my blog main page linkback to this blog. As this will be a potential "trouble" for me keep using a lionk to a not-indexed site - I`m curious how much time google will keep your pages indexed ...

I strongly belive there are deep-waters connections concerning PR, some SEO shit and certain "gurus".

As long as google`s Stansford university graduated square heads will behave as VR world rulers, as long google will proclame they fight against spam but keep sending it, as long as google offer the choice (even if one don`t wanted) to search for a keyword and find porn, as long as I`ll found google adsense paid text links pointing to sex-gambling-cheating-scam-spam sites, as long as Matt Cutts speak in the name of google is better to make main page be inside a directory but google behave somehow against this theory, I`ll not be satisfied.
As soon I`ll have a offer for adsense space in my site - but not later than 31 december, when will be dissmissed anyway - I will cut off adsense forwever by deleting adsense account. It will be intersting if deleting adsense account will affect other google`s accounts (analitics, webmaster tools etc).

Vlad :

- I won`t subscribe to feeds. Because I`m about to begin a war to feeds subscribing as being another branch of useless-blog-classifications.

- I won`t remove the link back to this blog.

- I won`t hesitate to keep coming here everyday - directly from my blog main page linkback to this blog. As this will be a potential "trouble" for me keep using a lionk to a not-indexed site - I`m curious how much time google will keep your pages indexed ...

I strongly belive there are deep-waters connections concerning PR, some SEO shit and certain "gurus".

As long as google`s Stansford university graduated square heads will behave as VR world rulers, as long google will proclame they fight against spam but keep sending it, as long as google offer the choice (even if one don`t wanted) to search for a keyword and find porn, as long as I`ll found google adsense paid text links pointing to sex-gambling-cheating-scam-spam sites, as long as Matt Cutts speak in the name of google is better to make main page be inside a directory but google behave somehow against this theory, I`ll not be satisfied.
As soon I`ll have a offer for adsense space in my site - but not later than 31 december, when will be dissmissed anyway - I will cut off adsense forwever by deleting adsense account. It will be intersting if deleting adsense account will affect other google`s accounts (analitics, webmaster tools etc).

ops .. wrong link c/p in my clipboard .. sorry, Vlad.

http://www.bluejar.com/technorati-vs-google-blo...

ops .. wrong link c/p in my clipboard .. sorry, Vlad.

http://www.bluejar.com/technorati-vs-google-blo...

There is allready a wave to change a couple of line in a certain page on wp core to keep technorati on dashboard. There is also a plugin for that for those not quite familiar with scripts changings ...

Despite maybe technorati is not allways best choice, use of google-serch instead of technorati proved to be not a good choice at all, for some people now ..

There is allready a wave to change a couple of line in a certain page on wp core to keep technorati on dashboard. There is also a plugin for that for those not quite familiar with scripts changings ...

Despite maybe technorati is not allways best choice, use of google-serch instead of technorati proved to be not a good choice at all, for some people now ..

Vlad, there`s another tiny aspect of this issue which - on purpose or caused by careless - is allmost missed to be mentioned, specialy by some of so called "more experienced guys".

Side note : here in Romania, we have a word : "shirt is closer than coat". Which is true technicaly point of view, yet coat is one protecting from cold ...

I accept I didn`t pass thru many "gurus" articles related to subject, yet I know most of them - if not all - have a lack of pointing clear who are the ones who are realy affected by latest google actions.

First, let`s remember who started this shit google fight back now.

Yes, right answer, Vlad, google started this issue and same google is now (one of the) "victims".
In them fight to "take the market", google`s guys started to extend themself in areas not so related to a search engine. PR which they invented was, is and (in this form) will stay as a goal.

Goal to be reached in many ways, all related to ... number of link-backs.

What is google PR ? A math calculation of number and quality of popularity. Build on linkbacks.

Bla bla bla .. you know the shit.

Problem now is that they are so concern about them loosing money while they fall in the trap they set, so worried to take control, that they now running on a route where they`ll be forced to have "collateral damages" in the mass of small to low-average peoples.

They stick equaly against all ?

Sure, PR maybe droped 1-3 units to everybody. Yet to fall from 1 to 0 is not equal to to fall from 6 to 4.

Whorst : on long terms, high-average and up marketers would resist to this threat, they won`t be affected more than some limited time.
Because google will NOT want to loose them adwords costumers.

Small guys ?
Well, as any TRUST, MONOPOLY, google have very very NO care about.

Have you read this (http://iamned.com/blog/2007/10/04/are-the-most-...) ?

Fact is that all wrongs comes out, on this level, not from google`s latest action, but from third parties unability to have made researches to find real reliable ways to "rank" a site.

A simple solution is "boycott `till colapse" systems based on google PR to pay for advertisment. Valid for any third party system based on ranking and automation to categorise sellers or buyers.

Vlad, there`s another tiny aspect of this issue which - on purpose or caused by careless - is allmost missed to be mentioned, specialy by some of so called "more experienced guys".

Side note : here in Romania, we have a word : "shirt is closer than coat". Which is true technicaly point of view, yet coat is one protecting from cold ...

I accept I didn`t pass thru many "gurus" articles related to subject, yet I know most of them - if not all - have a lack of pointing clear who are the ones who are realy affected by latest google actions.

First, let`s remember who started this shit google fight back now.

Yes, right answer, Vlad, google started this issue and same google is now (one of the) "victims".
In them fight to "take the market", google`s guys started to extend themself in areas not so related to a search engine. PR which they invented was, is and (in this form) will stay as a goal.

Goal to be reached in many ways, all related to ... number of link-backs.

What is google PR ? A math calculation of number and quality of popularity. Build on linkbacks.

Bla bla bla .. you know the shit.

Problem now is that they are so concern about them loosing money while they fall in the trap they set, so worried to take control, that they now running on a route where they`ll be forced to have "collateral damages" in the mass of small to low-average peoples.

They stick equaly against all ?

Sure, PR maybe droped 1-3 units to everybody. Yet to fall from 1 to 0 is not equal to to fall from 6 to 4.

Whorst : on long terms, high-average and up marketers would resist to this threat, they won`t be affected more than some limited time.
Because google will NOT want to loose them adwords costumers.

Small guys ?
Well, as any TRUST, MONOPOLY, google have very very NO care about.

Have you read this (http://iamned.com/blog/2007/10/04/are-the-most-...) ?

Fact is that all wrongs comes out, on this level, not from google`s latest action, but from third parties unability to have made researches to find real reliable ways to "rank" a site.

A simple solution is "boycott `till colapse" systems based on google PR to pay for advertisment. Valid for any third party system based on ranking and automation to categorise sellers or buyers.

- the concept of blogrush is wrong as is born to be mlm-kinda.
- is a traffic exchange disguised as a mini-dinamic-link-farm.
- the only sure results of BR- which was espected and I suspect were purposes - were linkbacks to blogrush dot com (raising pr for later use or sell ?) and free publicity for certain promoters.

My personal opinion is similar with one of Shakespeare`s writtings .. :-P

- the concept of blogrush is wrong as is born to be mlm-kinda.
- is a traffic exchange disguised as a mini-dinamic-link-farm.
- the only sure results of BR- which was espected and I suspect were purposes - were linkbacks to blogrush dot com (raising pr for later use or sell ?) and free publicity for certain promoters.

My personal opinion is similar with one of Shakespeare`s writtings .. :-P

Mainly nice post, yet :
- small bloggers, as well big guys want traffic.
- the idea of this post is that blogrush doesn`t worth the try, yet somebody told me you may have it on left side bar .. is true ? I haven`t check ...

Maybe will bring some traffic, maybe will work, maybe is not against adsense TOS, maybe ... Two yet are sure : 1- is a mlm scheme, is vertical scheme, while anything else (marketing, communication, spreading informations, teaching-learning, whatever) is or should be horizontal. 2- is getting a huge amount of linkbacks to blogrush. After all, this is what any widget-badge do, isn`t it ? :-P

Maybe will bring some traffic, maybe will work, maybe is not against adsense TOS, maybe ... Two yet are sure : 1- is a mlm scheme, is vertical scheme, while anything else (marketing, communication, spreading informations, teaching-learning, whatever) is or should be horizontal. 2- is getting a huge amount of linkbacks to blogrush. After all, this is what any widget-badge do, isn`t it ? :-P

Hehe, Vlad, you`ll give up to also others, just wait to see 5-6 payment terms coming and going without changes in your paypal account. :-)

Intersting idea, Vlad, implementing "up side down" comments on sites where you actualy do not want conversations ..
Comments will actually look more like some testimonials or simply feedback, so one may assume comments actually play the similar rolle like answers to a quiz or survey ..

For sure, as i`m a fan of open dialogue, hard to belive I`l want to implement .. :-)

Intersting idea, Vlad, implementing "up side down" comments on sites where you actualy do not want conversations ..
Comments will actually look more like some testimonials or simply feedback, so one may assume comments actually play the similar rolle like answers to a quiz or survey ..

For sure, as i`m a fan of open dialogue, hard to belive I`l want to implement .. :-)

Nobody more agree to let comments in "normal" order. first first and latest last.

Is also easy to follow eventual discussions apeared there between commenters. Even near at hand to "stir" it up - the discussion - if going on good / wrong direction ...

;-)

Nobody more agree to let comments in "normal" order. first first and latest last.

Is also easy to follow eventual discussions apeared there between commenters. Even near at hand to "stir" it up - the discussion - if going on good / wrong direction ...

;-)

Sorry, man, I don`t understand russian language. :-) As about paypal account, sorry .. My country is in "Send Money to Anyone in the Growing PayPal Network" list (yet, fortunately, not Russia) - link = https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_disp... -. This mean my paypal account can not receive money .. even if I use or not CC or DC .. So. all I can hope is I`ll not be the winner :-P

Sorry, man, I don`t understand russian language. :-) As about paypal account, sorry .. My country is in "Send Money to Anyone in the Growing PayPal Network" list (yet, fortunately, not Russia) - link = https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_disp... -. This mean my paypal account can not receive money .. even if I use or not CC or DC .. So. all I can hope is I`ll not be the winner :-P

Yo, Vlad.

Well, I`ll let to you the pleasure to find out where I`m from :-P

What i`ll do with 200 bucks ?

1- if those are exactly ones on picture, I`ll frame them and send to paypal`s big boss ..
2- if those are real USD, I`ll probably upgrade my IBM 400Mhz pc :-) (made in 1998, all original inside)

As I also run a (new) contest on my blog, I have in my plans to request you to be part of jury on one (or more) of next editions ..

Yo, Vlad.

Well, I`ll let to you the pleasure to find out where I`m from :-P

What i`ll do with 200 bucks ?

1- if those are exactly ones on picture, I`ll frame them and send to paypal`s big boss ..
2- if those are real USD, I`ll probably upgrade my IBM 400Mhz pc :-) (made in 1998, all original inside)

As I also run a (new) contest on my blog, I have in my plans to request you to be part of jury on one (or more) of next editions ..