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Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

twitter-878441 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:20:07 -0000

I love you.

Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

JustinWise — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:27:33 -0000

Yes. Exactly. Are we disagreeing? :)

I am 100% okay with hierarchies in the church being flattened.

Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

twitter-878441 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:09:47 -0000

Yeah, yeah. I don't think de-institutionalization = no leaders. Instead, de-institutionalization means a significant giving-away of power -- and therefore a flattening of the hierarchy which fuels itself with power -- that leads to a recovery of leadership among the (formerly) powerless. "Leaders" does not equal "bad". "Leader who monopolizes power" DOES equal "bad".

Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

JustinWise — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:57:53 -0000

1. Babylonian Captivity of the Church
2. I see your line of reasoning. Maybe we should be asking the question, "Is/should the church be an 'institution' at all?" In other words, did Jesus ever intend for his Body to be an institution?

I don't think the answer is no leadership at all. That's chaos. And impossible. (The dirty little secret with "no leadership" is that there actually is leadership. Someone had to lead the decision to have no leadership.)

It's clear from Scripture that God intends to have leaders for his people. What I think Yoder is saying, and I agree with, is that the community of believers has a deeper role in leading the local church than they currently possess. I don't think having leaders is tantamount to being institutionalized.

Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

twitter-878441 — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:42:02 -0000

Two things: 1) From whence is that Luther quote?; and 2) I agree that it's definitely a call for de-centralization of power... but it's my belief that de-centralization would/will/should inevitably and necessarily lead to de-institutionalization. Institutions draw their strength from centralization of power... without it, they crumble, you dig?

Re: Why Everyone Should Wear a Priest’s Collar

JustinWise — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:07:49 -0000

Prod. In a word, yes. That's where Yoder's conclusion would eventually end up. It would be a logistical nightmare for where we find ourselves now in the West, but I think that's where Yoder would go.

Look at the emphasis of our beloved Luther: "“All of us who have been baptized are priests without distinction…the sacrament of ordination, therefore, can be nothing other than…choosing a preacher…”

I wouldn't go so far as to say it is a de-institutionalization as much as I would say it's a de-centralization of the power structure in the church.

Re: Work Like a Young Entrepreneur

twitter-24908796 — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:16:34 -0000

I feel like it would change how directors hold their staff accountable for their work. Instead of keeping track of a particular employee's hours, the director and employee would create some goals for work/projects and keep track of those.

It definitely would not be traditional, but I feel like it would be more effective, especially for our generation.

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

Susie — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:30:08 -0000

I just calls 'em like I sees 'em

Re: Work Like a Young Entrepreneur

JustinWise — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:23:47 -0000

You bet, bud. Now how do we bring this to the church? What would that look like?

Re: Work Like a Young Entrepreneur

JustinWise — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:00:06 -0000

Can't wait to read it!

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

twitter-14070570 — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:11:19 -0000

He we could argue about that all day, but in the interest of us both getting some actual work done, let's just stick with "you're a good writer" and leave it at that. :)

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

Bill Bolte — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:30:36 -0000

yeah. I actually like the word. I read a lot of 19th century historical fiction and love the language used.

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:23:03 -0000

Ha! I'd like to think it's because somehow, some way, the God who you hope exists actually does, in fact, exist.

But I could be wrong... :)

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:22:17 -0000

This might be the most gracious, kind comment anyone has ever left on the site. Thank you :)

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

Susie — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:33:59 -0000

LOL! Sweatervests are the last great form of 80's prep self-expression. Who can hate sweatervests! Everyone looks good in them and they're the best of both worlds. The warmth of a sweater with no sleeves.
What do we disagree on? At the risk of revealing too much at once, I'm a liberal Catholic lesbian. *shrug* There it is. Let the flaming begin.
Why do I read? Because you are open-minded and kind. You write your perspective without beating people over the head with it. You challenge people to think and ask questions. Mostly, I read because you "get it".
I read because I'm a Catholic Christian, born and raised. A believer. And what you write interests me. Yes, I am gay, but I don't believe the two are mutually exclusive.
My church may have turned its back on me, but I refuse to give up on them... yet...

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:06:47 -0000

Hooray! What did he say? You have good taste in translations? ;)

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:48:25 -0000

You bet... Here's a good summary of all the ... well .... summaries: http://www.catalystspace.com/catablog/full/cult...

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:47:17 -0000

Thanks Sammy... Rock that join!

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:47:06 -0000

Just flexin' the ol' vocab muscles, if you know what I'm sayin'!

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:46:46 -0000

Susie ... Thanks for the kind words. Although, I'm curious as to what we do not agree on. Just admit it, it's my love of sweater vests, isn't it? ;)

Thanks for reading even though we disagree. Awesome.

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:52:02 -0000

I wish I could use this as my real email. I would. I totally would.

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:32:31 -0000

I know, right? Like, "yousuck@hotmail.com"? That's pure genius.

Re: My First Piece of Hate Mail

JustinWise — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:20:15 -0000

If it helps somebody out, right?

Re: Story Chicago 09 | Ron Martoia

JustinWise — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:36:00 -0000

Jeffrey

This comment makes no sense at all. If you can unpack your thoughts a little more, I'll be happy to keep your comment up. Otherwise I'll delete it.

Thanks

Re: Story Chicago 09 | Donald Miller

JustinWise — Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:56:58 -0000

My pleasure, Kyle. I'll be doing the same thing tomorrow... Stop on by again!