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Re: Masked Scheduler: FOX fall 2017 schedule needs more showmanship – TV By The Numbers by zap2it.com

Holly — Wed, 17 May 2017 13:05:57 -0000

No they wouldn't have, not even close. Money is made from advertisers, who only pay if they think people will be watching the commercials (IIRC, the C+3 numbers are used to set ad rates). In show advertising earns far less money.

Re: Masked Scheduler: FOX fall 2017 schedule needs more showmanship – TV By The Numbers by zap2it.com

Holly — Wed, 17 May 2017 12:56:56 -0000

Except we aren't seeing that.The number of scripted hours on network TV has remained fairly steady since the 90s. ABC has 13 hours, which is more than they had starting out any season in the 00s. Reality tv replaced TV movies, news magazines, and variety shows, not scripted content.

Edited to include other nets:
CBS with 18 hours (after football) may be the highest since 1977.
FOX is obviously matching a high this year with 12.5
NBC's 11 matches or betters what they've had since they got football in 06

Re: Masked Scheduler: FOX fall 2017 schedule needs more showmanship – TV By The Numbers by zap2it.com

Holly — Wed, 17 May 2017 12:40:51 -0000

Not a fan of reality/competition shows in general, but FOX made truckloads of money on American Idol, several times more than they would ever make from Gotham even if they owned it. Also, those reality/competition shows tend to have more live viewers, which is what actually makes the networks money. People who watch on DVR are obviously significantly less likely to watch the commercials.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: 'Empire' Hits New High, 'Fresh Off The Boat' Debuts Strong, 'Arrow', 'Modern Family' & 'The 100' Up

Holly — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:45:53 -0000

It went up from reruns, that's to be expected. But it's down from the last new episode. That is in no way promising or indicative of a comeback.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: 'Empire' Hits New High, 'Fresh Off The Boat' Debuts Strong, 'Arrow', 'Modern Family' & 'The 100' Up

Holly — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:25:31 -0000

What exactly makes this a cushy spot? It's against Idol (granted a much softer Idol than in previous years) and ABC's solid comedy block.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: 'Empire' Hits New High, 'Fresh Off The Boat' Debuts Strong, 'Arrow', 'Modern Family' & 'The 100' Up

Holly — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:13:54 -0000

A show with a Wednesday with a 1.0 isn't getting renewed on a network that isn't the CW.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: 'Empire' Hits New High, 'Fresh Off The Boat' Debuts Strong, 'Arrow', 'Modern Family' & 'The 100' Up

Holly — Thu, 05 Feb 2015 15:54:20 -0000

Empire is a huge win for FOX. They've had a lot of trouble with their dramas (well, all scripted fare really) for the last few years. It's nice to get a win. Hopefully for them it will hold up next season as opposed to Sleepy Hollow's troubles this year.

Re: CW Predictions: 'Hart Of Dixie' Is Still Certain To Be Canceled

Holly — Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:08:25 -0000

Because the CW is classified as a "mini-net," their minimums for cast and crew are much lower than broadcast. That means that CW shows are substantially cheaper than the average broadcast show. Of course, HOD isn't being compared to broadcast shows, it's being compared to CW shows which have the same lower price structure.

Re: CBS Predictions: At Least One Of 'Hawaii Five-0,' 'Blue Bloods,' & 'The Good Wife' Will Be Canceled

Holly — Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:55:45 -0000

If I recall correctly (I'll have to check to be sure), CBS premiered 3 new dramas nearly every year until they switched to 4 hours of comedies a week. The extra drama this year was to go back to 3 hours of comedy. With 4 comedies already renewed, I'm guessing 2 new comedies and 3 dramas. That means with the effective cancellation of Stalker and probably cancellation of CSI, they still need to open at least one drama spot (more if CSI:Cyber or Battle Creek do well). If they hate their pilots, they might give a veteran show a midseason start. But pilot season would have to be a complete bomb for Stalker to be the only show cancelled.

Re: TV Ratings Friday: 'Constantine' & 'Hart of Dixie' Up, 'Grimm' & 'Glee' Flat, 'Dateline' Beats '20/20'

Holly — Sat, 24 Jan 2015 14:54:48 -0000

They say that every year. Mostly it just means scheduling like what happened to BatB this year.

Re: TV Ratings Monday: 'Dancing With the Stars' & 'Castle' Up, 'The Originals' & 'Sleepy Hollow' Down as Football & News Scramble All Numbers

Holly — Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:22:28 -0000

So is winning the timeslot...

Re: 'Members Only' Canceled by ABC Before Its Premiere

Holly — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 23:41:18 -0000

Maybe this will temper the "straight to series" trend we were seeing. I'm not sure about Mission Control, but the other three were ordered without pilots. Apparently pilot season isn't as dead as they wanted us to believe.

Re: How many people are in the Nielsen TV ratings panel?

Holly — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:37:45 -0000

I'm sorry to see you go. You'll be missed.

Re: Wednesday Final Ratings: 'Big Brother' Adjusted Up; 'Taxi Brooklyn' Adjusted Down

Holly — Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:05:15 -0000

Maybe for summer it could work...

Re: Tuesday Final Ratings: 'Extreme Weight Loss' & 'Celebrity Wife Swap' Adjusted Up; 'The Night Shift' Adjusted Down + Final MLB All Star Ratings

Holly — Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:10:41 -0000

The case of Southland proves that a network can cancel a show after they've renewed it... It is exceptionally unlikely, but not impossible.

Re: FOX Announces Fall Premiere Dates for the 2014-2015 Season

Holly — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:19:41 -0000

If I recall correctly, previous attempts to launch shows early have not really helped. It might do well for an episode or two, but drops faster after that.

Re: FOX Announces Fall Premiere Dates for the 2014-2015 Season

Holly — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:15:26 -0000

A built in following of all the people who love the Batman universe but think all the Batman stuff ruins it? ;)

Re: Predict the Ratings for the Premieres of 'Welcome to Sweden' & 'Working the Engels' (Poll)

Holly — Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:09:11 -0000

AGT and Ninja aside, it isn't that UTD and Extant are getting horrible ratings, it's that they are getting disappointing ratings. If Reckless had premiered to a 1.6, everyone would be shocked and talking about how great that is. But Extant is likely far more expensive and was expected to do much better. Under the Dome premiered to a huge 3.3 last summer, so a 1.7 his season is not good. It's all about expectations.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: Middling Start for 'Extant', 'Big Brother' Up, 'So You Think You Can Dance' Down, 'Taxi Brooklyn' & 'Motive' Steady

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:32:59 -0000

It was produced by Steven Spielberg, stars Halle Berry, and was promoted incessantly... Yes, I absolutely think they were expecting it to do much better.

Re: Wednesday Final Ratings: 'Extant' & 'Brooklyn Taxi' Adjusted Down

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:55:41 -0000

They don't come to TVBN in the same report and adding them usually isn't worth the extra work.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: Middling Start for 'Extant', 'Big Brother' Up, 'So You Think You Can Dance' Down, 'Taxi Brooklyn' & 'Motive' Steady

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:03:57 -0000

That depends on how much Berry costs.

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: Middling Start for 'Extant', 'Big Brother' Up, 'So You Think You Can Dance' Down, 'Taxi Brooklyn' & 'Motive' Steady

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:03:30 -0000

Extant was supposed to be CBS's big summer hit this year. It's not silly at all to compare it to last year's big summer show.

Re: FOX Trims Final Season of 'Glee' to Thirteen Episodes

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 15:27:15 -0000

Heroes

Re: TV Ratings Wednesday: Middling Start for 'Extant', 'Big Brother' Up, 'So You Think You Can Dance' Down, 'Taxi Brooklyn' & 'Motive' Steady

Holly — Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:13:05 -0000

Disappointing for Extant. A 1.7 isn't horrible as a general rule (c.f. Motive and Taxi Brooklyn), but with Berry and all the promotion of the show, I'm sure CBS was expecting more....

Re: Monday Final TV Ratings: 'MasterChef' Adjusted Up; '24: Live Another Day' & 'American Ninja Warrior' Adjusted Down

Holly — Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:42:32 -0000

Aah, I'm glad we got to the right question. If you want to learn about how ratings work, check out the FAQ link at the bottom of the page. If you have any more questions, come back and I'll see if I can answer them.