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Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:54:42 -0000

Can't let that one pass ...
"Iowa Independent doesn't like AFF because of what they stand for and because they're beating them at their own game. Other than that, there's really no meat to this story."
Really? So what in God's own name have you and your little scurrying buddies been blathering about for the last five days?
And you can bet your sweet patoot that I at least (can't speak for the Independent) don't like what the AFF and its congeners stand for - they're a stench in the nose of civilization.

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Peggy2 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:02:52 -0000

You know, I didn't even post that much on this particular thread so WHERE are you getting all this stuff about bashing and name-calling?

You are the one who's overly sensitive.

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:54:26 -0000

You know, Peggy, it's becoming obvious that the one thing you DON'T want to talk about is the content of the article, and the AFF itself.
As a result, you're starting to bore me - and I'm sure we're both boring a lot of other people who have much better things to do than listen to the rattle of a closed mind (Yours? or mine? - who cares. We're talking past each other...). So -
Have a nice day, and always remember - today is the very next day of the rest of your past.

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:39:10 -0000

"I call you gutless because you don't use your real name to post, so this is quality is not limited to you but everyone who posts here who does the same."
Including you, Peggy2.
" What's to stop me from posting under several different face names?"
The fact that we've registered with the site.
"It's compromises the debate and it's dishonest."
Only you could have called the name-calling and smears a debate.
"That points you listed from Chase's AFF article were never disputed by me, were they?"
Gee gosh, no - you were too busy bashing to ever address them.
"AFF is obviously working to further Republican ideals"
God help us, those are "ideals?" Horton? Swift Boats? I think the term I'm looking for is "morally and ethically bankrupt"
"- so it's not going to be an earth-shattering scandal to point out to people that they're....Republicans."
No, Peggy (or should I call you by your last name - 2?), it's not an earth-shattering scandal. So why are you so disturbed by it? For the rest of us, it's just more of the same old same old.
By the way Ms 2, the four principles of propaganda that got under your skin weren't, in the beginning, intended as a comment on you, but rather on the AFF, that great idealistic Republican Truth Machine.
A little sensitive, aren't we?
Sincerely,
Ms 32

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:17:03 -0000

Peggy -
Just to make it nice and easy for you, in case your logical faculties have been drained by your own propaganda:
Chase says AFF exists. True or False?
He says it's sponsoring advocacy ads in several races across the nation. True or False?
He says that its roster of luminaries includes Schlinger, Albrecht, Kochel, Ginsberg, McCarthy, et al, some of whom have roots in the Iowa Republican establishment. True or False?
He said there's a pending ethics complaint against the IFF and the Minnesota DFLP has filed an FEC complaint against the AFF. True or False?
This could go on forever, but you get my drift, don't you, Pegeen? Put up or shut up - these questions aren't very hard, you know.
What's bugging you really? What was it that Chase said that you REALLY didn't want anybody to know?

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:50:42 -0000

Oh Please!!!
All I need is your latest to make my case
"Gutless Guardian" - sounds to me like an ad hominem attack - no debate here, just call her names and smear,smear,smear

"Is everyone who skunks you in a debate a Nazi?" - Nobody said that, but if you use their "argumentative" techniques, and if the shoe fits ... Oh, and how do you read "skunked" into anything so far?

"Re #4...what lie are you referring to?" Well, we have conniving Chambers of Commerce (prove it, or shut up), behind-the-scenes corrupt and immoral liberals (prove it, or shut up), "purposefully misleading" disclosures of funding (show me where, or shut up) and a whole series of verbal shotgun blasts (who knows, maybe something will stick...), just because you don't like what a blog (whether independent or dependent, doesn't matter) says about a group that seems near and dear to your shriveled little heart. YOU tell me, WHERE precisely did Chase lie? Stop smearing, and start dealing with facts, if you still have any memory of what one looks like.

"There is a total disconnect in your arguments. Produce the lie in your opposition's remarks on this thread." - And THAT is my challenge to you.

You have now succeeded in using every single one of the techniques I mentioned, in a very purposeful attempt to distract from the statements in the article.

Q.E.D. sweet Peggy, Q.E.D.

Re: Secrets of the American Future Fund

Guardian32 — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 10:37:35 -0000

Standard Republican thuggery - techniques dating back to Nixon, and before him, to Goebbels.
1) If you can't deny the facts, attack the source
2) If you shout loudly enough, people might believe you
3) If I say it ten times, and you only say it once, I win.
4) "A lie can stride across the world, before Truth has put on its boots"
Good to see there are some Iowa Republicans with a true sense of history, who are able to exercise their God-given right to malignant idiocy.