http://disqus.com/people/9bf4645836103080cd0508995c9b1634/enTue, 17 Jul 2007 10:06:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_190/#comment-5289863Hello Mark,<br></br><br>I only discovered your blog through Friends of Missional last week. So far...so good! Acutally, I've just adopted the term missional as a self-description. Seems to fit where I am at and the work God has for me to do.</br><br></br><br>Blessings,</br><br></br><br>Anna in OK.</br>AnnaMon, 08 Jan 2007 08:06:34 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/national_delurking_week/#comment-1296141Hello Mark,<br><br>I only discovered your blog through Friends of Missional last week. So far...so good! Acutally, I've just adopted the term missional as a self-description. Seems to fit where I am at and the work God has for me to do.<br><br>Blessings,<br><br>Anna in OK.AnnaMon, 08 Jan 2007 09:06:34 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_190/#comment-5289847Hello Mark,<br><br>I only discovered your blog through Friends of Missional last week. So far...so good! Acutally, I've just adopted the term missional as a self-description. Seems to fit where I am at and the work God has for me to do.<br><br>Blessings,<br><br>Anna in OK.AnnaMon, 08 Jan 2007 09:06:34 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_881/#comment-5290017Here is a story for ya, Mark:<br></br><br>My parents were a part of an active, quasi-community Catholic Charismatic movement in the early 70's. A small group of nuns moved into a rough neighborhood nearby and quickly won the respect of the folks around them. They had the house donated but didn't have a vehicle. The nuns did what nuns do well~ Prayed.</br><br></br><br>An Italian car dealer, who had rumored connections to the "Family", heard about the nun's plight. He presented them a large new station wagon. When asked why he did it, he threw up his hands and cried, "What could I do? They prayed!"</br><br></br><br>The station wagon was named, "Gloria".</br><br></br><br>Back down to earth, I fought being whinny a few months ago about finances. The Lord turned around the whinniness into what I call, "Active Dreaming". You can share with others the grand dream of God's leading or you can whine about not having it all yet. I picked choice B.</br><br></br><br>Thanks for sharing, makes me feel normal.</br>AnnaTue, 16 Jan 2007 11:01:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/be_forewarned_ministry_rant_ahead/#comment-1297180Here is a story for ya, Mark:<br><br>My parents were a part of an active, quasi-community Catholic Charismatic movement in the early 70's. A small group of nuns moved into a rough neighborhood nearby and quickly won the respect of the folks around them. They had the house donated but didn't have a vehicle. The nuns did what nuns do well~ Prayed.<br><br>An Italian car dealer, who had rumored connections to the "Family", heard about the nun's plight. He presented them a large new station wagon. When asked why he did it, he threw up his hands and cried, "What could I do? They prayed!"<br><br>The station wagon was named, "Gloria".<br><br>Back down to earth, I fought being whinny a few months ago about finances. The Lord turned around the whinniness into what I call, "Active Dreaming". You can share with others the grand dream of God's leading or you can whine about not having it all yet. I picked choice B.<br><br>Thanks for sharing, makes me feel normal.AnnaTue, 16 Jan 2007 12:01:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_881/#comment-5290003Here is a story for ya, Mark:<br><br>My parents were a part of an active, quasi-community Catholic Charismatic movement in the early 70's. A small group of nuns moved into a rough neighborhood nearby and quickly won the respect of the folks around them. They had the house donated but didn't have a vehicle. The nuns did what nuns do well~ Prayed.<br><br>An Italian car dealer, who had rumored connections to the "Family", heard about the nun's plight. He presented them a large new station wagon. When asked why he did it, he threw up his hands and cried, "What could I do? They prayed!"<br><br>The station wagon was named, "Gloria".<br><br>Back down to earth, I fought being whinny a few months ago about finances. The Lord turned around the whinniness into what I call, "Active Dreaming". You can share with others the grand dream of God's leading or you can whine about not having it all yet. I picked choice B.<br><br>Thanks for sharing, makes me feel normal.AnnaTue, 16 Jan 2007 12:01:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_387/#comment-5290251You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar, thats for sure. Then lovingly convert the flies to sheep.<br></br><br>Just keep doing and talking the good news!</br><br></br><br>Anna</br>AnnaWed, 24 Jan 2007 09:45:38 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/a_public_apology/#comment-1297454You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar, thats for sure. Then lovingly convert the flies to sheep.<br><br>Just keep doing and talking the good news!<br><br>AnnaAnnaWed, 24 Jan 2007 10:45:38 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_387/#comment-5290222You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar, thats for sure. Then lovingly convert the flies to sheep.<br><br>Just keep doing and talking the good news!<br><br>AnnaAnnaWed, 24 Jan 2007 10:45:38 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_1505/#comment-5290395The header is a little faint, I'll agree, but not too cheesy.<br></br><br>Your neighborhood seems rather nice, Mark. I was expecting something more edgy or are those the cleanest buildings in the area? And a co-op grocery? *Sigh* I wish I were so blessed.</br><br></br><br>I live behind a McDonalds and next to a poor working class neighborhood in a shabby apartment building with mostly retired folks on Social Security or disability and young army guys. Not necessarily more holy, mind you, but certainly uglier.</br>AnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 06:24:08 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/links_for_your_perusal_00/#comment-1297757The header is a little faint, I'll agree, but not too cheesy.<br><br>Your neighborhood seems rather nice, Mark. I was expecting something more edgy or are those the cleanest buildings in the area? And a co-op grocery? *Sigh* I wish I were so blessed.<br><br>I live behind a McDonalds and next to a poor working class neighborhood in a shabby apartment building with mostly retired folks on Social Security or disability and young army guys. Not necessarily more holy, mind you, but certainly uglier.AnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 07:24:08 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_1505/#comment-5290388The header is a little faint, I'll agree, but not too cheesy.<br><br>Your neighborhood seems rather nice, Mark. I was expecting something more edgy or are those the cleanest buildings in the area? And a co-op grocery? *Sigh* I wish I were so blessed.<br><br>I live behind a McDonalds and next to a poor working class neighborhood in a shabby apartment building with mostly retired folks on Social Security or disability and young army guys. Not necessarily more holy, mind you, but certainly uglier.AnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 07:24:08 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_1505/#comment-5290397Thank you for showing us the better portions of your neighborhood for the right reasons. :) Gives you something to work towards and add even more beauty to your surroundings.<br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 07:38:59 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/links_for_your_perusal_00/#comment-1297760Thank you for showing us the better portions of your neighborhood for the right reasons. :) Gives you something to work towards and add even more beauty to your surroundings.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 08:38:59 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_1505/#comment-5290390Thank you for showing us the better portions of your neighborhood for the right reasons. :) Gives you something to work towards and add even more beauty to your surroundings.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 30 Jan 2007 08:38:59 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_669/#comment-5290433Small question: Can the regular prayers included for the fixed hours be easily memorized? Then, would the breviary be a reference for special days/prayers/psalm readings?AnnaWed, 31 Jan 2007 06:04:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/missio_dei_book_of_prayer/#comment-1297787Small question: Can the regular prayers included for the fixed hours be easily memorized? Then, would the breviary be a reference for special days/prayers/psalm readings?AnnaWed, 31 Jan 2007 07:04:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_669/#comment-5290425Small question: Can the regular prayers included for the fixed hours be easily memorized? Then, would the breviary be a reference for special days/prayers/psalm readings?AnnaWed, 31 Jan 2007 07:04:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_403/#comment-5290498Those are great questions to ask! I'd like to hear a short summary of the responses, if you have the time.<br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaThu, 08 Feb 2007 06:13:28 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/february_15_twin_cities_emergent_cohort/#comment-1297831Those are great questions to ask! I'd like to hear a short summary of the responses, if you have the time.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaThu, 08 Feb 2007 07:13:28 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_403/#comment-5290496Those are great questions to ask! I'd like to hear a short summary of the responses, if you have the time.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaThu, 08 Feb 2007 07:13:28 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_9305/#comment-5294351Curtain Number 3, please.<br></br><br>Seriously, I think there is major Kingdom work to be done not only in exposing the Consumer Capitalist metanarrative [sooo liberal arts degree---I like] but also in living as a bridge from one side to the other. Youth tend to know they are being sold to something, gripe about it, but then join in for the kicks.</br><br></br><br>The most difficult part is branding Lent. Perhaps we can do a Maker's Diet approach?? "50 days to a new you, inside and out! Celebrate Easter in your new bikini!"</br><br></br><br>Completely tongue in cheek. ~I'll go be theologically silly on my own blog...</br><br>Anna</br>AnnaTue, 13 Feb 2007 11:18:06 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/classic_jm_christian_identity_and_consumer_choice/#comment-1310332Curtain Number 3, please.<br><br>Seriously, I think there is major Kingdom work to be done not only in exposing the Consumer Capitalist metanarrative [sooo liberal arts degree---I like] but also in living as a bridge from one side to the other. Youth tend to know they are being sold to something, gripe about it, but then join in for the kicks.<br><br>The most difficult part is branding Lent. Perhaps we can do a Maker's Diet approach?? "50 days to a new you, inside and out! Celebrate Easter in your new bikini!"<br><br>Completely tongue in cheek. ~I'll go be theologically silly on my own blog...<br>AnnaAnnaTue, 13 Feb 2007 12:18:06 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_9305/#comment-5294334Curtain Number 3, please.<br><br>Seriously, I think there is major Kingdom work to be done not only in exposing the Consumer Capitalist metanarrative [sooo liberal arts degree---I like] but also in living as a bridge from one side to the other. Youth tend to know they are being sold to something, gripe about it, but then join in for the kicks.<br><br>The most difficult part is branding Lent. Perhaps we can do a Maker's Diet approach?? "50 days to a new you, inside and out! Celebrate Easter in your new bikini!"<br><br>Completely tongue in cheek. ~I'll go be theologically silly on my own blog...<br>AnnaAnnaTue, 13 Feb 2007 12:18:06 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_503/#comment-5290541Hi Mark,<br></br><br>I pretty much agree with your above statements, though I haven't articulated them systematically. Here is a nifty story:</br><br></br><br>My husband oversees a ministry training program within a Teen Challenge center, provided by Southwestern AOG University. This semester, the students were taking "Pentecostal Doctrine". When they came to the point on speaking in tongues, everyone disagreed with the traditional AOG stance. They came to the conclusion that tongues are not the first evidence of the in-filling of the Holy Spirit! A changed life is the first evidence, they said. :)</br>AnnaSun, 18 Feb 2007 09:13:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/on_being_charismatic/#comment-1297858Hi Mark,<br><br>I pretty much agree with your above statements, though I haven't articulated them systematically. Here is a nifty story:<br><br>My husband oversees a ministry training program within a Teen Challenge center, provided by Southwestern AOG University. This semester, the students were taking "Pentecostal Doctrine". When they came to the point on speaking in tongues, everyone disagreed with the traditional AOG stance. They came to the conclusion that tongues are not the first evidence of the in-filling of the Holy Spirit! A changed life is the first evidence, they said. :)AnnaSun, 18 Feb 2007 10:13:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_503/#comment-5290529Hi Mark,<br><br>I pretty much agree with your above statements, though I haven't articulated them systematically. Here is a nifty story:<br><br>My husband oversees a ministry training program within a Teen Challenge center, provided by Southwestern AOG University. This semester, the students were taking "Pentecostal Doctrine". When they came to the point on speaking in tongues, everyone disagreed with the traditional AOG stance. They came to the conclusion that tongues are not the first evidence of the in-filling of the Holy Spirit! A changed life is the first evidence, they said. :)AnnaSun, 18 Feb 2007 10:13:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_521/#comment-5290657Somewhat related--<br></br><br>Our church has had a teaching series running for over six months on Old Testament characters. Almost any regularly attending person can preach (given prior approval from the pastor) so the viewpoints have been varied and sometimes interesting. Still, almost all of the preaching/teaching has left out any connection to Jesus. Imagine, six months in a church with nary a mention of why we are actually there!</br><br></br><br>Aaarrghh....I'm ready to preach on the Sermon on the Mount!</br>AnnaTue, 06 Mar 2007 08:20:13 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_gospel_according_to_oprah/#comment-1298539Somewhat related--<br><br>Our church has had a teaching series running for over six months on Old Testament characters. Almost any regularly attending person can preach (given prior approval from the pastor) so the viewpoints have been varied and sometimes interesting. Still, almost all of the preaching/teaching has left out any connection to Jesus. Imagine, six months in a church with nary a mention of why we are actually there!<br><br>Aaarrghh....I'm ready to preach on the Sermon on the Mount!AnnaTue, 06 Mar 2007 09:20:13 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_521/#comment-5290648Somewhat related--<br><br>Our church has had a teaching series running for over six months on Old Testament characters. Almost any regularly attending person can preach (given prior approval from the pastor) so the viewpoints have been varied and sometimes interesting. Still, almost all of the preaching/teaching has left out any connection to Jesus. Imagine, six months in a church with nary a mention of why we are actually there!<br><br>Aaarrghh....I'm ready to preach on the Sermon on the Mount!AnnaTue, 06 Mar 2007 09:20:13 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_3932/#comment-5290688One aspect I did not see clearly addressed was communal worship time: where, when, how, etc. Does this fall under, "We will regularly attend Missio Dei’s gatherings."?<br></br><br>Do you worship together or separately in various churches? Are you waiting for approval from MCUSA to declare worship group status?</br>AnnaWed, 07 Mar 2007 08:25:56 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_missio_dei_rule_of_faith/#comment-1298723One aspect I did not see clearly addressed was communal worship time: where, when, how, etc. Does this fall under, "We will regularly attend Missio Dei’s gatherings."?<br><br>Do you worship together or separately in various churches? Are you waiting for approval from MCUSA to declare worship group status?AnnaWed, 07 Mar 2007 09:25:56 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_3932/#comment-5290681One aspect I did not see clearly addressed was communal worship time: where, when, how, etc. Does this fall under, "We will regularly attend Missio Dei’s gatherings."?<br><br>Do you worship together or separately in various churches? Are you waiting for approval from MCUSA to declare worship group status?AnnaWed, 07 Mar 2007 09:25:56 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/on_being_a_neighborhood_church/#comment-1298752You'd enjoy watching a 20 minute video on <a href="http://GodTube.com" rel="nofollow">GodTube.com</a> of an interview of Ergun Caner. He gives some good discussion tools in explaining Christianity to Muslims in contexts they can grapple. [Muslims tend to love verbal grappling!]<br><br><a href="http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=027454a783c841250ba7" rel="nofollow">http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0...</a>AnnaWed, 14 Mar 2007 16:55:16 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_703/#comment-5290704You'd enjoy watching a 20 minute video on <a href="http://GodTube.com" rel="nofollow">GodTube.com</a> of an interview of Ergun Caner. He gives some good discussion tools in explaining Christianity to Muslims in contexts they can grapple. [Muslims tend to love verbal grappling!]<br><br><a href="http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=027454a783c841250ba7" rel="nofollow">http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0...</a>AnnaWed, 14 Mar 2007 16:55:16 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_703/#comment-5290709You'd enjoy watching a 20 minute video on <a href="http://GodTube.com" rel="nofollow">GodTube.com</a> of an interview of Ergun Caner. He gives some good discussion tools in explaining Christianity to Muslims in contexts they can grapple. [Muslims tend to love verbal grappling!]<br></br><br><a href="http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=027454a783c841250ba7" rel="nofollow">http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0...</a></br>AnnaWed, 14 Mar 2007 16:55:16 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/book_of_prayer_bummer/#comment-1298862Hmmmm....how about Wipf &#38;#38; Stock? They published the 12 Marks of New Monasticism.AnnaWed, 21 Mar 2007 11:26:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_738/#comment-5290776Hmmmm....how about Wipf &#38;#38; Stock? They published the 12 Marks of New Monasticism.AnnaWed, 21 Mar 2007 11:26:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_738/#comment-5290785Hmmmm....how about Wipf &#38;#38; Stock? They published the 12 Marks of New Monasticism.AnnaWed, 21 Mar 2007 11:26:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/church_and_state_pt_6_initial_explorations_of_practical_implications/#comment-1298960On paying taxes:<br><br>An easy way to not pay income taxes is to be poor. We got all the money back we payed plus some extra, I think. Yeah, its a little like "free-loading" except we do not use any welfare type services. We just work hard in an economically depressed area and earn the typical wage offered.<br><br>Just a thought.AnnaWed, 28 Mar 2007 18:28:11 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_998/#comment-5290817On paying taxes:<br><br>An easy way to not pay income taxes is to be poor. We got all the money back we payed plus some extra, I think. Yeah, its a little like "free-loading" except we do not use any welfare type services. We just work hard in an economically depressed area and earn the typical wage offered.<br><br>Just a thought.AnnaWed, 28 Mar 2007 18:28:11 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_998/#comment-5290825On paying taxes:<br></br><br>An easy way to not pay income taxes is to be poor. We got all the money back we payed plus some extra, I think. Yeah, its a little like "free-loading" except we do not use any welfare type services. We just work hard in an economically depressed area and earn the typical wage offered.</br><br></br><br>Just a thought.</br>AnnaWed, 28 Mar 2007 18:28:11 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_anarchist_love_train/#comment-1299081This idea sounds like a Food Not Bombs type of thing. They'd have lots of tips on doing the coversions.<br><br>A small camper trailer might work also, if somebody has the truck to tow it. There is a 'Bratwurst Haus' that does brisk business at lunch time in our town on this basis.AnnaThu, 29 Mar 2007 08:49:18 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_241/#comment-5290847This idea sounds like a Food Not Bombs type of thing. They'd have lots of tips on doing the coversions.<br><br>A small camper trailer might work also, if somebody has the truck to tow it. There is a 'Bratwurst Haus' that does brisk business at lunch time in our town on this basis.AnnaThu, 29 Mar 2007 08:49:18 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_241/#comment-5290870This idea sounds like a Food Not Bombs type of thing. They'd have lots of tips on doing the coversions.<br></br><br>A small camper trailer might work also, if somebody has the truck to tow it. There is a 'Bratwurst Haus' that does brisk business at lunch time in our town on this basis.</br>AnnaThu, 29 Mar 2007 08:49:18 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/mistakes_in_narrating_the_gospel/#comment-1299117I like the summary but the last paragraph was a little theologically dense with big words.<br><br>So, to sum up: We get in on doing the Stuff with Jesus, now and later on a better earth n' heaven. Sound good?AnnaFri, 30 Mar 2007 17:10:23 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_762/#comment-5290887I like the summary but the last paragraph was a little theologically dense with big words.<br><br>So, to sum up: We get in on doing the Stuff with Jesus, now and later on a better earth n' heaven. Sound good?AnnaFri, 30 Mar 2007 17:10:23 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_762/#comment-5290889I like the summary but the last paragraph was a little theologically dense with big words.<br></br><br>So, to sum up: We get in on doing the Stuff with Jesus, now and later on a better earth n' heaven. Sound good?</br>AnnaFri, 30 Mar 2007 17:10:23 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_34influencers34/#comment-1299993That durn Churchinfo blog popped in the comment before me....<br><br>How do I get rid of that rascally thing?<br><br>Anyhow, I posted a contribution to the list.AnnaFri, 06 Apr 2007 09:21:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_986/#comment-5290997That durn Churchinfo blog popped in the comment before me....<br><br>How do I get rid of that rascally thing?<br><br>Anyhow, I posted a contribution to the list.AnnaFri, 06 Apr 2007 09:21:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_986/#comment-5291015That durn Churchinfo blog popped in the comment before me....<br></br><br>How do I get rid of that rascally thing?</br><br></br><br>Anyhow, I posted a contribution to the list.</br>AnnaFri, 06 Apr 2007 09:21:30 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/thoughts_on_psychological_tests_being_smug_and_failing_to_be_a_writer/#comment-1300104Let me guess: Thee is an INFJ? Or close to it?AnnaWed, 11 Apr 2007 10:52:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_081/#comment-5291062Let me guess: Thee is an INFJ? Or close to it?AnnaWed, 11 Apr 2007 10:52:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_081/#comment-5291072Let me guess: Thee is an INFJ? Or close to it?AnnaWed, 11 Apr 2007 10:52:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/thoughts_on_psychological_tests_being_smug_and_failing_to_be_a_writer/#comment-1300120Yep, I'm an INFJ now, though I tested in at an INFP when I first took the test 9 years ago. Odd, how personality can migrate a little as you get older. At least we are in the same camp. ;)<br><br>BTW, I was pretty much a slacker through my undergrad, too. I could have done a sparkling thesis, etc., but was satisfied with squeeking through. I've been struggling with what to publish on my blog, if I should have a blog at all, or just hermitized myself until I think I have something important to contribute.AnnaThu, 12 Apr 2007 08:57:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_081/#comment-5291069Yep, I'm an INFJ now, though I tested in at an INFP when I first took the test 9 years ago. Odd, how personality can migrate a little as you get older. At least we are in the same camp. ;)<br><br>BTW, I was pretty much a slacker through my undergrad, too. I could have done a sparkling thesis, etc., but was satisfied with squeeking through. I've been struggling with what to publish on my blog, if I should have a blog at all, or just hermitized myself until I think I have something important to contribute.AnnaThu, 12 Apr 2007 08:57:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_081/#comment-5291079Yep, I'm an INFJ now, though I tested in at an INFP when I first took the test 9 years ago. Odd, how personality can migrate a little as you get older. At least we are in the same camp. ;)<br></br><br>BTW, I was pretty much a slacker through my undergrad, too. I could have done a sparkling thesis, etc., but was satisfied with squeeking through. I've been struggling with what to publish on my blog, if I should have a blog at all, or just hermitized myself until I think I have something important to contribute.</br>AnnaThu, 12 Apr 2007 08:57:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/loving_your_enemies_in_a_time_of_war/#comment-1300142Mark, thanks for sharing this story. Check out what Joe said at The Evangelical Outpost this morning about this subject. Made my skin crawl.<br><br><a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/003581.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/0035...</a><br><br>I couldn't help but pounce on this one.AnnaFri, 13 Apr 2007 10:27:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_9313/#comment-5291114Mark, thanks for sharing this story. Check out what Joe said at The Evangelical Outpost this morning about this subject. Made my skin crawl.<br><br><a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/003581.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/0035...</a><br><br>I couldn't help but pounce on this one.AnnaFri, 13 Apr 2007 10:27:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_9313/#comment-5291115Mark, thanks for sharing this story. Check out what Joe said at The Evangelical Outpost this morning about this subject. Made my skin crawl.<br></br><br><a href="http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/003581.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evangelicaloutpost.com/archives/0035...</a></br><br></br><br>I couldn't help but pounce on this one.</br>AnnaFri, 13 Apr 2007 10:27:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/a_new_pneumatology_must_resist_de_personalizing_the_spirit/#comment-1300493Ok, I'm not theologically fluent one bit but I'll toss in my theory on why identifying the Holy Spirit as an equal to the Father and Son is difficult for many.<br><br>'Spirit' is not tangible in the way Jesus was (is) and the way we can conceptualize the Father. For our scientifically-enlightened minds to fully envelope the personhood of the Holy Spirit is to...well...really live this stuff. And that just messes up our neat little envelopes of predictability and who wants that?<br><br>I especially like G.K Chesterton's arguments for the existence of miracles. To not allow for what we cannot explain is to be a materialist. The Holy Spirit frees us from becoming materialists because He is active in the affairs of men.<br><br>Now, if we de-personalize the Holy Spirit, what happens? If He is just an "attitude" or part of the Good Ether, then the <b>Will</b> to act is removed. We can go along like ignorant materialists because sometimes the Good Ether is there and sometimes not and our lives are affected in little difference between the two.<br><br>That's the best I can add to the soup pot. Stir well and simmer!AnnaFri, 20 Apr 2007 14:56:48 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_340/#comment-5291177Ok, I'm not theologically fluent one bit but I'll toss in my theory on why identifying the Holy Spirit as an equal to the Father and Son is difficult for many.<br><br>'Spirit' is not tangible in the way Jesus was (is) and the way we can conceptualize the Father. For our scientifically-enlightened minds to fully envelope the personhood of the Holy Spirit is to...well...really live this stuff. And that just messes up our neat little envelopes of predictability and who wants that?<br><br>I especially like G.K Chesterton's arguments for the existence of miracles. To not allow for what we cannot explain is to be a materialist. The Holy Spirit frees us from becoming materialists because He is active in the affairs of men.<br><br>Now, if we de-personalize the Holy Spirit, what happens? If He is just an "attitude" or part of the Good Ether, then the <b>Will</b> to act is removed. We can go along like ignorant materialists because sometimes the Good Ether is there and sometimes not and our lives are affected in little difference between the two.<br><br>That's the best I can add to the soup pot. Stir well and simmer!AnnaFri, 20 Apr 2007 14:56:48 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_340/#comment-5291201Ok, I'm not theologically fluent one bit but I'll toss in my theory on why identifying the Holy Spirit as an equal to the Father and Son is difficult for many.<br></br><br>'Spirit' is not tangible in the way Jesus was (is) and the way we can conceptualize the Father. For our scientifically-enlightened minds to fully envelope the personhood of the Holy Spirit is to...well...really live this stuff. And that just messes up our neat little envelopes of predictability and who wants that?</br><br></br><br>I especially like G.K Chesterton's arguments for the existence of miracles. To not allow for what we cannot explain is to be a materialist. The Holy Spirit frees us from becoming materialists because He is active in the affairs of men.</br><br></br><br>Now, if we de-personalize the Holy Spirit, what happens? If He is just an "attitude" or part of the Good Ether, then the <b>Will</b> to act is removed. We can go along like ignorant materialists because sometimes the Good Ether is there and sometimes not and our lives are affected in little difference between the two.</br><br></br><br>That's the best I can add to the soup pot. Stir well and simmer!</br>AnnaFri, 20 Apr 2007 14:56:48 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/unsustainability_a_lament/#comment-1300939Read this when you think your lamenting in nearly through or you can't bear to wait any longer...<br><br><blockquote>This morning, I’m plagued by the recognition–and the temptation–that it still isn’t too late to scrap everything and do church in the urban-hipster, gather-the-upwardly-mobile-urbanites, let’s-draw-a-crowd-of-cultural-creative-savvy-people, sort of way. That isn’t to say that such an approach is EASY. It is just EASIER. And I have no doubt in my mind that I could pull that sort of thing off…if only. If only my heart were in it. </blockquote><br><br>My naive question would be, Why can't you plant a church/community which is both creative-urban-upwardly mobile and down-and-outsiders? Perhaps I do not see the demographic topography well enough to see the impossibility. Maybe Missio Dei could be a bridge between the two groups? Would this be a Jesus-way to accomplish His kingdom building in the West Bank?AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 17:11:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6593/#comment-5291235Read this when you think your lamenting in nearly through or you can't bear to wait any longer...<br><br><blockquote>This morning, I’m plagued by the recognition–and the temptation–that it still isn’t too late to scrap everything and do church in the urban-hipster, gather-the-upwardly-mobile-urbanites, let’s-draw-a-crowd-of-cultural-creative-savvy-people, sort of way. That isn’t to say that such an approach is EASY. It is just EASIER. And I have no doubt in my mind that I could pull that sort of thing off…if only. If only my heart were in it. </blockquote><br><br>My naive question would be, Why can't you plant a church/community which is both creative-urban-upwardly mobile and down-and-outsiders? Perhaps I do not see the demographic topography well enough to see the impossibility. Maybe Missio Dei could be a bridge between the two groups? Would this be a Jesus-way to accomplish His kingdom building in the West Bank?AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 17:11:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6593/#comment-5291251Read this when you think your lamenting in nearly through or you can't bear to wait any longer...<br></br><br><blockquote>This morning, I’m plagued by the recognition–and the temptation–that it still isn’t too late to scrap everything and do church in the urban-hipster, gather-the-upwardly-mobile-urbanites, let’s-draw-a-crowd-of-cultural-creative-savvy-people, sort of way. That isn’t to say that such an approach is EASY. It is just EASIER. And I have no doubt in my mind that I could pull that sort of thing off…if only. If only my heart were in it. </blockquote></br><br></br><br>My naive question would be, Why can't you plant a church/community which is both creative-urban-upwardly mobile and down-and-outsiders? Perhaps I do not see the demographic topography well enough to see the impossibility. Maybe Missio Dei could be a bridge between the two groups? Would this be a Jesus-way to accomplish His kingdom building in the West Bank?</br>AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 17:11:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/unsustainability_a_lament/#comment-1300942Other related thought:<br><br>Your financial woes and otherwise are a way of joining your mission field. Believe me, I KNOW how you feel. Been there, have barely broken even this last year. I'm even starting graduate school in a discipline I don't care for to get out of loan payments. *Wince*<br><br>Maybe you need to recognize that you ARE one of those urban-hipsters (though not in the financial column), coming in from the outside to the West Bank. Now you really really know how it is to be flat broke and make painful choices, just like your new neighbors.<br><br>I'm part of a rare church that has both types of folk, and somehow it works. Now, it isn't growing all too fast because of other factors, but the core group is really tight. They are still friendly and diverse. It is possible.AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 22:24:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6593/#comment-5291239Other related thought:<br><br>Your financial woes and otherwise are a way of joining your mission field. Believe me, I KNOW how you feel. Been there, have barely broken even this last year. I'm even starting graduate school in a discipline I don't care for to get out of loan payments. *Wince*<br><br>Maybe you need to recognize that you ARE one of those urban-hipsters (though not in the financial column), coming in from the outside to the West Bank. Now you really really know how it is to be flat broke and make painful choices, just like your new neighbors.<br><br>I'm part of a rare church that has both types of folk, and somehow it works. Now, it isn't growing all too fast because of other factors, but the core group is really tight. They are still friendly and diverse. It is possible.AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 22:24:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6593/#comment-5291254Other related thought:<br></br><br>Your financial woes and otherwise are a way of joining your mission field. Believe me, I KNOW how you feel. Been there, have barely broken even this last year. I'm even starting graduate school in a discipline I don't care for to get out of loan payments. *Wince*</br><br></br><br>Maybe you need to recognize that you ARE one of those urban-hipsters (though not in the financial column), coming in from the outside to the West Bank. Now you really really know how it is to be flat broke and make painful choices, just like your new neighbors.</br><br></br><br>I'm part of a rare church that has both types of folk, and somehow it works. Now, it isn't growing all too fast because of other factors, but the core group is really tight. They are still friendly and diverse. It is possible.</br>AnnaMon, 23 Apr 2007 22:24:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_subversive_spirit_2/#comment-1352284Subvert may also gain an agrarian meaning. Mold-board plows were revolutionary because they can both slice the earth and flip over the top layer to reveal the soft stuff below. This was helpful when plowing a fallow (resting) field that had weeds growing up.<br><br>I have a harder time accepting "deconstruct" because it sounds too much like the chaos we are trying to fight as we live on earth. Maybe you could unpack that?<br><br>Spirit=She....hmmm....I like it and it might be Christian-like. Hagia Sophia means Holy Wisdom. Sophia became a girl's name....You could make the connection.AnnaMon, 30 Apr 2007 11:51:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_640/#comment-5291346Subvert may also gain an agrarian meaning. Mold-board plows were revolutionary because they can both slice the earth and flip over the top layer to reveal the soft stuff below. This was helpful when plowing a fallow (resting) field that had weeds growing up.<br><br>I have a harder time accepting "deconstruct" because it sounds too much like the chaos we are trying to fight as we live on earth. Maybe you could unpack that?<br><br>Spirit=She....hmmm....I like it and it might be Christian-like. Hagia Sophia means Holy Wisdom. Sophia became a girl's name....You could make the connection.AnnaMon, 30 Apr 2007 11:51:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_640/#comment-5291348Subvert may also gain an agrarian meaning. Mold-board plows were revolutionary because they can both slice the earth and flip over the top layer to reveal the soft stuff below. This was helpful when plowing a fallow (resting) field that had weeds growing up.<br></br><br>I have a harder time accepting "deconstruct" because it sounds too much like the chaos we are trying to fight as we live on earth. Maybe you could unpack that?</br><br></br><br>Spirit=She....hmmm....I like it and it might be Christian-like. Hagia Sophia means Holy Wisdom. Sophia became a girl's name....You could make the connection.</br>AnnaMon, 30 Apr 2007 11:51:12 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_atonement_and_the_embrace_of_god/#comment-1304322Amen, Hallelujah, Bravo and Chocolate Cake, too!<br><br>You might also want to touch on the emphasis of Heaven as our final resting place instead of a new Earth <i>and</i> Heaven as would befit the distinctions you have made here about the Cross. I seem to notice those who use the penal substitutionary view also tend to emphasize going to Heaven and that's it. They ignore, of course, the last couple chapters of Revelations where we get the whole kit all sparkling clean again.<br><br>AnnaAnnaWed, 02 May 2007 16:50:14 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_793/#comment-5291352Amen, Hallelujah, Bravo and Chocolate Cake, too!<br><br>You might also want to touch on the emphasis of Heaven as our final resting place instead of a new Earth <i>and</i> Heaven as would befit the distinctions you have made here about the Cross. I seem to notice those who use the penal substitutionary view also tend to emphasize going to Heaven and that's it. They ignore, of course, the last couple chapters of Revelations where we get the whole kit all sparkling clean again.<br><br>AnnaAnnaWed, 02 May 2007 16:50:14 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_793/#comment-5291362Amen, Hallelujah, Bravo and Chocolate Cake, too!<br></br><br>You might also want to touch on the emphasis of Heaven as our final resting place instead of a new Earth <i>and</i> Heaven as would befit the distinctions you have made here about the Cross. I seem to notice those who use the penal substitutionary view also tend to emphasize going to Heaven and that's it. They ignore, of course, the last couple chapters of Revelations where we get the whole kit all sparkling clean again.</br><br></br><br>Anna</br>AnnaWed, 02 May 2007 16:50:14 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/alternative_economics/#comment-1304371Just before we left a pentecostal mega-church in our town last year, I sat down with the assistant pastor and his wife to discuss my ideas/concerns about poverty and the church's involvement in the community. You can probably guess how well that went. They strongly defended the church, saying that occasional outreaches like single moms' auto-care clinics and a children's roving music trailer where "very involved" in the needs of the community.<br><br>The pastor noted, however, that the folks on the other side of town never seemed to be comfortable attending their church. His attitude was, if the outreaches didn't bring in the people to the church (posh nice side of town) then it wasn't really worth it. The poor are better with "their own kind."<br><br>I had a screaming, kicking, and clothing-rending fit after that (at home), felt much better, and found the quirky urban church we attend now.<br><br>Those are great starting points. I would love to join an accounting/ability group!AnnaFri, 04 May 2007 09:44:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_547/#comment-5291404Just before we left a pentecostal mega-church in our town last year, I sat down with the assistant pastor and his wife to discuss my ideas/concerns about poverty and the church's involvement in the community. You can probably guess how well that went. They strongly defended the church, saying that occasional outreaches like single moms' auto-care clinics and a children's roving music trailer where "very involved" in the needs of the community.<br><br>The pastor noted, however, that the folks on the other side of town never seemed to be comfortable attending their church. His attitude was, if the outreaches didn't bring in the people to the church (posh nice side of town) then it wasn't really worth it. The poor are better with "their own kind."<br><br>I had a screaming, kicking, and clothing-rending fit after that (at home), felt much better, and found the quirky urban church we attend now.<br><br>Those are great starting points. I would love to join an accounting/ability group!AnnaFri, 04 May 2007 09:44:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_547/#comment-5291420Just before we left a pentecostal mega-church in our town last year, I sat down with the assistant pastor and his wife to discuss my ideas/concerns about poverty and the church's involvement in the community. You can probably guess how well that went. They strongly defended the church, saying that occasional outreaches like single moms' auto-care clinics and a children's roving music trailer where "very involved" in the needs of the community.<br></br><br>The pastor noted, however, that the folks on the other side of town never seemed to be comfortable attending their church. His attitude was, if the outreaches didn't bring in the people to the church (posh nice side of town) then it wasn't really worth it. The poor are better with "their own kind."</br><br></br><br>I had a screaming, kicking, and clothing-rending fit after that (at home), felt much better, and found the quirky urban church we attend now.</br><br></br><br>Those are great starting points. I would love to join an accounting/ability group!</br>AnnaFri, 04 May 2007 09:44:42 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/facebook/#comment-1304813Ah, dang-it, I guess I'll break down and join! *kicking at the grass*<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 15 May 2007 14:09:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_5706/#comment-5291479Ah, dang-it, I guess I'll break down and join! *kicking at the grass*<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 15 May 2007 14:09:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_5706/#comment-5291487Ah, dang-it, I guess I'll break down and join! *kicking at the grass*<br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaTue, 15 May 2007 14:09:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/on_sex_slaves_in_minnesota_and_an_accompanying_rant/#comment-1305065Thank you for speaking up and offering no-fluff Christianity!<br><br>I just learned that our town has the highest gang population per capita in our state, ahead of the two major cities. Why? Drugs and trafficking of heaven-knows-what across the border from Texas and further south. Desperate people in a desperate place...Come Lord Jesus!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaWed, 23 May 2007 15:36:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_2898/#comment-5291614Thank you for speaking up and offering no-fluff Christianity!<br><br>I just learned that our town has the highest gang population per capita in our state, ahead of the two major cities. Why? Drugs and trafficking of heaven-knows-what across the border from Texas and further south. Desperate people in a desperate place...Come Lord Jesus!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaWed, 23 May 2007 15:36:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_2898/#comment-5291630Thank you for speaking up and offering no-fluff Christianity!<br></br><br>I just learned that our town has the highest gang population per capita in our state, ahead of the two major cities. Why? Drugs and trafficking of heaven-knows-what across the border from Texas and further south. Desperate people in a desperate place...Come Lord Jesus!</br><br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaWed, 23 May 2007 15:36:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/smoke_smoke_smoke_that_cigarette/#comment-1305085Excellent point. Maybe smoking crosses the boundary of private into public, whereas sex is suppose to be "consensual" between two(or more!) people in private. The libertarian stance undergirding this is, "If you aren't hurting anyone, its okay." Second hand smoke is proven to hurt others, so NOT cool. Of course, there is the whole STD and Irresponsible Reproduction side to sexual immorality...<br><br>I empathize with your family situation and your mother. My mom has stage 4 lung cancer, not due to smoking. We are always quick to say that. The type she has is most likely caused by a combination of genetics, pollution and life-time exposure to industrial chemicals in laundry detergents and household cleaners. Hazards of being a housewife!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaFri, 25 May 2007 13:13:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_170/#comment-5291654Excellent point. Maybe smoking crosses the boundary of private into public, whereas sex is suppose to be "consensual" between two(or more!) people in private. The libertarian stance undergirding this is, "If you aren't hurting anyone, its okay." Second hand smoke is proven to hurt others, so NOT cool. Of course, there is the whole STD and Irresponsible Reproduction side to sexual immorality...<br><br>I empathize with your family situation and your mother. My mom has stage 4 lung cancer, not due to smoking. We are always quick to say that. The type she has is most likely caused by a combination of genetics, pollution and life-time exposure to industrial chemicals in laundry detergents and household cleaners. Hazards of being a housewife!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaFri, 25 May 2007 13:13:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_170/#comment-5291666Excellent point. Maybe smoking crosses the boundary of private into public, whereas sex is suppose to be "consensual" between two(or more!) people in private. The libertarian stance undergirding this is, "If you aren't hurting anyone, its okay." Second hand smoke is proven to hurt others, so NOT cool. Of course, there is the whole STD and Irresponsible Reproduction side to sexual immorality...<br></br><br>I empathize with your family situation and your mother. My mom has stage 4 lung cancer, not due to smoking. We are always quick to say that. The type she has is most likely caused by a combination of genetics, pollution and life-time exposure to industrial chemicals in laundry detergents and household cleaners. Hazards of being a housewife!</br><br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaFri, 25 May 2007 13:13:04 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/i8217m_seeing_a_spiritual_director8230/#comment-1305420Prepare for doing so many push-ups that you will cry on the floor like a baby... oh, wait...spiritual director. Pshaw, you'll be fine. Your ego will take a kicking, but that is what you signed up for, right?AnnaThu, 31 May 2007 10:53:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_0124/#comment-5291685Prepare for doing so many push-ups that you will cry on the floor like a baby... oh, wait...spiritual director. Pshaw, you'll be fine. Your ego will take a kicking, but that is what you signed up for, right?AnnaThu, 31 May 2007 10:53:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_0124/#comment-5291694Prepare for doing so many push-ups that you will cry on the floor like a baby... oh, wait...spiritual director. Pshaw, you'll be fine. Your ego will take a kicking, but that is what you signed up for, right?AnnaThu, 31 May 2007 10:53:01 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/divine_hours_pocket_edition/#comment-1305905Thank you for sharing, Mark, even in your pissy attitude. :)<br><br>When I read the post yesterday, I immediately thought of Dorothy Day, whom I know you hold as one of your role models. She was abstract in a very concrete way in her writing. Catch my drift? I love reading her articles online because it feels like I am stepping into her world and see the application of her ideals, however feeble and weak. I know I've suggested it before, but I think you should take a little more from life (bad and good) and add it to your writing. People love stories and since we are living The Story, it makes sense to share it.<br><br>I empathize with you on being a "grand idea" person and having no means or platform with which to accomplish it.AnnaWed, 06 Jun 2007 09:14:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_267/#comment-5291718Thank you for sharing, Mark, even in your pissy attitude. :)<br><br>When I read the post yesterday, I immediately thought of Dorothy Day, whom I know you hold as one of your role models. She was abstract in a very concrete way in her writing. Catch my drift? I love reading her articles online because it feels like I am stepping into her world and see the application of her ideals, however feeble and weak. I know I've suggested it before, but I think you should take a little more from life (bad and good) and add it to your writing. People love stories and since we are living The Story, it makes sense to share it.<br><br>I empathize with you on being a "grand idea" person and having no means or platform with which to accomplish it.AnnaWed, 06 Jun 2007 09:14:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_267/#comment-5291727Thank you for sharing, Mark, even in your pissy attitude. :)<br></br><br>When I read the post yesterday, I immediately thought of Dorothy Day, whom I know you hold as one of your role models. She was abstract in a very concrete way in her writing. Catch my drift? I love reading her articles online because it feels like I am stepping into her world and see the application of her ideals, however feeble and weak. I know I've suggested it before, but I think you should take a little more from life (bad and good) and add it to your writing. People love stories and since we are living The Story, it makes sense to share it.</br><br></br><br>I empathize with you on being a "grand idea" person and having no means or platform with which to accomplish it.</br>AnnaWed, 06 Jun 2007 09:14:51 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/fair_trade_wednesday_the_phone_call/#comment-1305936I'm so glad some doors are opening for you, Mark! Looking forward to the unwrapping future.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaFri, 08 Jun 2007 11:04:39 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_341/#comment-5291740I'm so glad some doors are opening for you, Mark! Looking forward to the unwrapping future.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaFri, 08 Jun 2007 11:04:39 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_341/#comment-5291744I'm so glad some doors are opening for you, Mark! Looking forward to the unwrapping future.<br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaFri, 08 Jun 2007 11:04:39 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/beware_the_subtle_shade_of_oligarchy/#comment-1306155Mark, I've been tasting the same flavor from the groups you mentioned over the past several months. In the conversations I've had with certain leaders, the issue of the leaders being very humble and time-tested sorts was put forth as a defense of their being the spokesmen. I felt like my head was patted and told to run off and play in the forum.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 12 Jun 2007 09:22:17 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6927/#comment-5291762Mark, I've been tasting the same flavor from the groups you mentioned over the past several months. In the conversations I've had with certain leaders, the issue of the leaders being very humble and time-tested sorts was put forth as a defense of their being the spokesmen. I felt like my head was patted and told to run off and play in the forum.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 12 Jun 2007 09:22:17 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_6927/#comment-5291780Mark, I've been tasting the same flavor from the groups you mentioned over the past several months. In the conversations I've had with certain leaders, the issue of the leaders being very humble and time-tested sorts was put forth as a defense of their being the spokesmen. I felt like my head was patted and told to run off and play in the forum.<br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaTue, 12 Jun 2007 09:22:17 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/quick_question_from_the_road/#comment-1306243I'll second what Matt said about C.S. Lewis...who is really a revamp of G.K. Chesterton. The whole scene from the Narnia movie where the Professor makes the case for Lucy "Lying, Insane or Truth-teller" is straight Chesterton.<br><br>His "Ethics of Elfland" chapter in <i>Orthodoxy</i> is the best case for Pagan turned Theist turned Christian.<br><br>Can you tell I had the Chronicles of Narnia as bedtime stories for three years as a child?<br><br>Your fellow Pagan Jesus-Follower ~AnnaAnnaTue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_232/#comment-5291853I'll second what Matt said about C.S. Lewis...who is really a revamp of G.K. Chesterton. The whole scene from the Narnia movie where the Professor makes the case for Lucy "Lying, Insane or Truth-teller" is straight Chesterton.<br><br>His "Ethics of Elfland" chapter in <i>Orthodoxy</i> is the best case for Pagan turned Theist turned Christian.<br><br>Can you tell I had the Chronicles of Narnia as bedtime stories for three years as a child?<br><br>Your fellow Pagan Jesus-Follower ~AnnaAnnaTue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_232/#comment-5291888I'll second what Matt said about C.S. Lewis...who is really a revamp of G.K. Chesterton. The whole scene from the Narnia movie where the Professor makes the case for Lucy "Lying, Insane or Truth-teller" is straight Chesterton.<br></br><br>His "Ethics of Elfland" chapter in <i>Orthodoxy</i> is the best case for Pagan turned Theist turned Christian.</br><br></br><br>Can you tell I had the Chronicles of Narnia as bedtime stories for three years as a child?</br><br></br><br>Your fellow Pagan Jesus-Follower ~Anna</br>AnnaTue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:24 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/what_would_jesus_wear/#comment-1306429I take option C a little further by purchasing fabric (sometimes made in the USA or otherwise somewhat fair trade) and sewing a portion of my clothing. That cuts out a few of the oppressive steps. The patterns I create myself or buy from small designers, usually families or mothers.<br><br>Buttons or other fiddley bits are more troublesome...they almost always come from China.<br><br>Sewing fills in the gaps around Thrifting.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaMon, 16 Jul 2007 10:08:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_910/#comment-5291967I take option C a little further by purchasing fabric (sometimes made in the USA or otherwise somewhat fair trade) and sewing a portion of my clothing. That cuts out a few of the oppressive steps. The patterns I create myself or buy from small designers, usually families or mothers.<br><br>Buttons or other fiddley bits are more troublesome...they almost always come from China.<br><br>Sewing fills in the gaps around Thrifting.<br><br>~AnnaAnnaMon, 16 Jul 2007 10:08:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_910/#comment-5291980I take option C a little further by purchasing fabric (sometimes made in the USA or otherwise somewhat fair trade) and sewing a portion of my clothing. That cuts out a few of the oppressive steps. The patterns I create myself or buy from small designers, usually families or mothers.<br></br><br>Buttons or other fiddley bits are more troublesome...they almost always come from China.</br><br></br><br>Sewing fills in the gaps around Thrifting.</br><br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaMon, 16 Jul 2007 10:08:58 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/what_would_jesus_wear/#comment-1306434Geoff,<br><br>Exploitation, Hah! Try telling that to my radical egalitarian mother who sews quilts and baby clothes! I inherited my sewing machine and serger from her. ;)<br><br>I strongly suggest reading The Midwife's Tale by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich who illustrates the "Alternative Feminine Economy" of the late 18th and early 19th centuries in rural America. That'll shatter a few narratives for ya!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 17 Jul 2007 10:06:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_910/#comment-5291970Geoff,<br><br>Exploitation, Hah! Try telling that to my radical egalitarian mother who sews quilts and baby clothes! I inherited my sewing machine and serger from her. ;)<br><br>I strongly suggest reading The Midwife's Tale by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich who illustrates the "Alternative Feminine Economy" of the late 18th and early 19th centuries in rural America. That'll shatter a few narratives for ya!<br><br>~AnnaAnnaTue, 17 Jul 2007 10:06:46 -0000http://jesusmanifesto.disqus.com/the_jesus_manifesto_raquo_maintenance_mode_910/#comment-5291983Geoff,<br></br><br>Exploitation, Hah! Try telling that to my radical egalitarian mother who sews quilts and baby clothes! I inherited my sewing machine and serger from her. ;)</br><br></br><br>I strongly suggest reading The Midwife's Tale by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich who illustrates the "Alternative Feminine Economy" of the late 18th and early 19th centuries in rural America. That'll shatter a few narratives for ya!</br><br></br><br>~Anna</br>AnnaTue, 17 Jul 2007 10:06:46 -0000