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Re: Wire Tap Bill: Reactions

Hans — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:07:55 -0000

What I think is we are holding the cop more responsible for the crime than the criminal. Why this bill was moved through is beyond me, but it was the Bush Admin that performed the crime, not Obama, so why is he being held more accountable for it than Bush & Co.?

To be honest, what can 1 of 535 do to stop this? Had he fillibustered this, Bush would be all over him saying he is weak on Terrorism and as we saw with Bush praising McCain on the GIBill, although he is not popular, he has an enormous sway over those people who are not news junkies from his bully pulpit.

Yes Obama said he would fillibuster it, but some like yourself seem to selectively remember what Obama ran on and have mistaken invented what is message was. Obama has never run on a far Left platform or called himself a Liberal, however others have labeled him as one. He ran as someone who wants to bring everyone together and even though I am far Left, I picked up on that message from the very beginning and that is what drew me in.

Far Left people it appears seem to be in their frustration with Bush, which I am as well, appear to be blinded by anything "not Bush", however if they want another 4 years of frustration, they better open their eyes and recognize Obama is not a Liberal and never labeled himself as one.

Democrats, who always eat their young, better wake up!

Re: Wire Tap Bill: Reactions

Hans — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:42:21 -0000

Let them wiretap because they have great dataminers, but not enough people to go through it all, so I hope this gets swept up as well to bogg them down further. I would add a "F*** Bush" just to make sure, but don't want to offend anyone ;)

I'm not concerned about this to make us safer, I just don't think throwing Obama in the fire at this time is worth the risk of getting McCain as President. He was one of 535 members of Congress, so he had no real power to change the vote and what I was saying about the cop/criminal was not about you or me, but rather Bush is the criminal, why are we holding Obama to a higher degree of responsibility for the actions of Bush.

Sow discontent, vote for Nader or Barr, but don't be pissed when McCain becomes President and things get worse than they already are.

Re: Wire Tap Bill: Reactions

Hans — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:13:35 -0000

Don't get me wrong, I am not about giving up our rights nor am I blind to what is happening, but I do have to tempter my anger to gain (or more importantly lose less) overall. If I rise, incite riot and anger in middle of the road Americans (those that are not news junkies) then they go vote for McCain based on his "Maverick" label & military experience and I cannot allow that to happen as I've suffered enough mentally over the past 7.5 years. I can't take another 4 years of this BS, this country cannot take another 4 years as there will no longer be a viable economy existing in this country.

If you have not yet, you should read John Dean's Conservatives without Conscious and put this together with typical "conservative" mantra of subservience & sheep-like action.

I'll give you an example (and I've always hated the Counting Crows which is not important ;) )...

there are two "climbers" representing the left and the right. the Left person is climbing an ice slope while the person on the Right is climbing a sand dune. They are both tethered together. The both expend an enormous amount of energy to get to the top, however the climber on the left will always slide back slightly more than they move up, while the person on the sand dune will always gain a small amount as they slide back less than they gain. It is how it has always worked and it is how it continues to work today.

why this happens is because the left has more critical "thinkers" that fragment into groups which want slightly different things with a general overall same plan, while those on the right have a large block that are not critical "thinkers" and often take "orders" and do whatever that is without question, so overall they through unquestioning unity gain, while those on the left through slight infighting lose.

so if I grill Obama on this, although I may not be happy about it, overall if it fragments the left & the unity they are trying to gain with moderates & true fiscal conservatives (read:Ron Paul types) then myself and everyone else that is striving towards economic responsibility will all fail when McCain gets elected.

McCain will get no flack on his connection to Phil Gramm, his 25 year friend & economic policy adviser, who is responsible for allowing the Enron Loophole & the mortgage rules laxing that we are now falling under to (I don't excuse the people who took out loans they could not afford, but banks F***ing know better) so Obama will get chewed a new a**hole for the FISA bill which will not cost us anything, while McCain will get away scott free even though we all will be paying for it in even more debt through this socialized risk coverage for privatized profit to the corporations.

anyways, that's about that.

btw I'm from the farm country outside of lockport, not to many miles away from you (that is if it is rochester, ny where you are) yet moved as far west as I could from there long ago ;)

Re: Wire Tap Bill: Reactions

Hans — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:21:10 -0000

oh yeah, not scared at all by the government. never fell into the whole hysteria of color coded fear mongering and was actually supposed to fly out of Denver early September 11th. Although I did not predict 9-11 or Afghanistan happening, I knew in January of 01 we would be going to war with Iraq courtesy of Bush.

Learned to look through the news to who they are sponsored/owned by back during the first Gulf War when I was 16ish, and even find it disturbing that NPR & PBS get a lot of their funding from ADM and other large argo-businesses.

Re: Wire Tap Bill: Reactions

Hans — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:21:53 -0000

I think we are far from the situation we were in back in 2004, where my vote was nothing more than party line instead of true interest in Kerry or Edwards for that matter. (don't take offense, but) it was an east coast battle played out by east coast idiots with Ohio-ians taking the prize for stupidity.

I just hope we keep the infighting to a minimum as the Right will be in lockstep with each other and will win with McCain if we pick fights without considering the ramifications of doing so.

I am not certain what you heard or whether you supported Obama in the primaries, I was for Richardson to begin with, but I never heard him say "he was taking us off the diving board to the far left" but rather was trying to bring EVERYONE (Left, right, middle, etc) together to work towards achieving common goals and aspirations, so I am not upset by his movement to the center (fast or slow). The more I learn about Bill Clinton, the more I find he was closer to the Right than I mistakenly believed he was far to the left.

btw, whether i like Dennis K or not, simple reality is that a leprechaun cannot be President of the USA ;)

Re: Gays and Lesbians for Ron Paul

Hans — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:46:08 -0000

Wow! what a great idea, get rid of all government and then when there is no protection of your rights, then you can expect more tragedies like the poor young gay man that was dragged behind a truck in Wyoming.
Reality is not gender orientation neutral, laws administered by rational people can be. Irrational people require laws to keep them in check. Forethought of consequences to your choices is always prudent.

Re: Gays and Lesbians for Ron Paul

Hans — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:17:42 -0000

I don't disagree with the tragedy and conviction of the above mentioned event, however caution is advised when one wishes for equality through limited government, when government & rule of law is most often the only thing that insures "equality" when reality is taken into account.

where do you suppose a Libertarian government would stop deciding which "services" it would provide? Would it stop once it got rid of an imperialistic government controlled military? Would it stop once it got rid of social and humanitarian services? would it stop once it got rid of a national transportation system? would it stop once it got rid of fire & police protection? would it stop once it got rid of the judicial system? when would it stop getting rid of government departments that are necessary for rule of law and operation of civil society? That is the question I allude to, hence the need for prudence in what one asks for, lest one gets more than one ever wished for whether it be good or bad.