DISQUS

If I were to walk into the salvage yard church, I think I would probably have the same reaction I have to just about any church like it: "The decorations are different, the structure is the same." That's not an indictment of the people that go there, because I understand there are groups of people in the church that are trying to do something different, and that's fine. I just don't think the level of rethinking present is really high enough to do anything. BTW, painting people with a broad brush might include putting the word friends in quotes and making really blanket statements about commentators on other people's blogs.

If I were to walk into the salvage yard church, I think I would probably have the same reaction I have to just about any church like it: "The decorations are different, the structure is the same." That's not an indictment of the people that go there, because I understand there are groups of people in the church that are trying to do something different, and that's fine. I just don't think the level of rethinking present is really high enough to do anything. BTW, painting people with a broad brush might include putting the word friends in quotes and making really blanket statements about commentators on other people's blogs.

If I were to walk into the salvage yard church, I think I would probably have the same reaction I have to just about any church like it: "The decorations are different, the structure is the same." That's not an indictment of the people that go there, because I understand there are groups of people in the church that are trying to do something different, and that's fine. I just don't think the level of rethinking present is really high enough to do anything. BTW, painting people with a broad brush might include putting the word friends in quotes and making really blanket statements about commentators on other people's blogs.

I think the important thing for me is to understand what we mean by counter-cultural. A counter-culture is a culture that is set up in direct contradistinction to another culture. In that sense, maybe there are lots of cultures that are counter-cultural, or at least started that way. I think that better than saying there are no counter-cultures in America is to say that any counter-culture in America is only a sub-culture and not a fully realized culture.

I think the important thing for me is to understand what we mean by counter-cultural. A counter-culture is a culture that is set up in direct contradistinction to another culture. In that sense, maybe there are lots of cultures that are counter-cultural, or at least started that way. I think that better than saying there are no counter-cultures in America is to say that any counter-culture in America is only a sub-culture and not a fully realized culture.

I think the important thing for me is to understand what we mean by counter-cultural. A counter-culture is a culture that is set up in direct contradistinction to another culture. In that sense, maybe there are lots of cultures that are counter-cultural, or at least started that way. I think that better than saying there are no counter-cultures in America is to say that any counter-culture in America is only a sub-culture and not a fully realized culture.

I think I know what you're trying to say, Steve, but I think you underestimate our power to change meaning in our own language. You are advocating that justice swallow up the definition of righteousness altogether, but I think it would be just as easy to define righteousness apart from its bad connotations (like self-righteousness)

I think I know what you're trying to say, Steve, but I think you underestimate our power to change meaning in our own language. You are advocating that justice swallow up the definition of righteousness altogether, but I think it would be just as easy to define righteousness apart from its bad connotations (like self-righteousness)

I think I know what you're trying to say, Steve, but I think you underestimate our power to change meaning in our own language. You are advocating that justice swallow up the definition of righteousness altogether, but I think it would be just as easy to define righteousness apart from its bad connotations (like self-righteousness)

Mark said in his post that he's using the word righteousness synonymously with justice (as in the Greek they are the same word).

Mark said in his post that he's using the word righteousness synonymously with justice (as in the Greek they are the same word).

Mark said in his post that he's using the word righteousness synonymously with justice (as in the Greek they are the same word).