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5 months ago
in Metadata on Metadata- A Great Idea! on Kyle Brady: A Blog
If your "entire point" was that that it "is not going to end well" then, yep I missed it because no where in your original entry do you ever make that argument and support it so don't blame me for missing your "point" - go back and work on your thesis. The closest you ever get to arguing that this "is not going to end well" is "[this] really makes me sick" and "I hope it ends tomorrow." So this is an introspective piece then i.e. you're not commenting on the large picture? How selfish. Why share that in a blog?
The only point you made is that YOU'RE tired of twitter and the "technorati's" pushing of lifestreaming technologies - and that's entirely the argument that I addressed - you're caught up too close to the firehose and upset that that you feel like you're drowning while standing up. You're not recognizing that all you need to do is step back once in a while from your psuedo-addiction to "bleeding edge technology" and not cast the technorati as the villians because you can't keep up with their 24/7 tech fix. If your argument is about blurring the lines between press releases/self-promotion/marketing/reporting. baby, that ship sailed long ago. Fuhgeddaboudit. It's done.
With regards to your "other point being...opposite of [my] third paragraph" - oh really? I said that the process just has to happen and your frustration is understandable and necessary (so please back away from the firehose once in a while) but your "opposite" is that you're "tired of hearing about [twitter, FF, etc.]"? So the point is... what? What are you going to do about it besides rant?
Because I did validate your rant and said "get it out, boy" but apparently you're suggesting that that's STILL the opposite of your point. So you don't want to get your frustration out but you want to do something about it? Please do tell your plans on avoiding a scenario that "doesn't end well" because you still have not made one proposal on how to remedy this situation that bothers you so much - a Firefox filter plug-in? A NetNanny for Twitter? Congressional legislation? A thinly veiled threat to hack Techcrunch, Twitter, and Friendfeed? Please, to avoid any further misunderstanding on my part, you're going to have to come up with a more specific proposal that the public can get their teeth into.
Honestly, I empathized with you to begin with, but if you want to take my advice as blowback, you're welcome to your feelings, man. I'm not responsible for how you feel - I just gave you advice to put it all in perspective but I can clearly see now that either a) you lack that ability to step back or b) you're some kind of masochist and nothing that I say is going to calm you down - you'll just look at the hooks anyone writes to feel insulted and write another "I'm so sick of this" hack piece.
Oh and by the way, a tool like "a way to filter FriendFeed" does exist. It's called an API and Twitter made one too. It's up to you to either develop KyleFeed yourself or to work with (not against) the developers out there to see that a more appealing view of the firehose can be tuned to your liking. These guys aren't lazy - they gave it away for free - they understand how innovation and discovery works. And it's not because someone called them lazy and peddling crap.
The only point you made is that YOU'RE tired of twitter and the "technorati's" pushing of lifestreaming technologies - and that's entirely the argument that I addressed - you're caught up too close to the firehose and upset that that you feel like you're drowning while standing up. You're not recognizing that all you need to do is step back once in a while from your psuedo-addiction to "bleeding edge technology" and not cast the technorati as the villians because you can't keep up with their 24/7 tech fix. If your argument is about blurring the lines between press releases/self-promotion/marketing/reporting. baby, that ship sailed long ago. Fuhgeddaboudit. It's done.
With regards to your "other point being...opposite of [my] third paragraph" - oh really? I said that the process just has to happen and your frustration is understandable and necessary (so please back away from the firehose once in a while) but your "opposite" is that you're "tired of hearing about [twitter, FF, etc.]"? So the point is... what? What are you going to do about it besides rant?
Because I did validate your rant and said "get it out, boy" but apparently you're suggesting that that's STILL the opposite of your point. So you don't want to get your frustration out but you want to do something about it? Please do tell your plans on avoiding a scenario that "doesn't end well" because you still have not made one proposal on how to remedy this situation that bothers you so much - a Firefox filter plug-in? A NetNanny for Twitter? Congressional legislation? A thinly veiled threat to hack Techcrunch, Twitter, and Friendfeed? Please, to avoid any further misunderstanding on my part, you're going to have to come up with a more specific proposal that the public can get their teeth into.
Honestly, I empathized with you to begin with, but if you want to take my advice as blowback, you're welcome to your feelings, man. I'm not responsible for how you feel - I just gave you advice to put it all in perspective but I can clearly see now that either a) you lack that ability to step back or b) you're some kind of masochist and nothing that I say is going to calm you down - you'll just look at the hooks anyone writes to feel insulted and write another "I'm so sick of this" hack piece.
Oh and by the way, a tool like "a way to filter FriendFeed" does exist. It's called an API and Twitter made one too. It's up to you to either develop KyleFeed yourself or to work with (not against) the developers out there to see that a more appealing view of the firehose can be tuned to your liking. These guys aren't lazy - they gave it away for free - they understand how innovation and discovery works. And it's not because someone called them lazy and peddling crap.
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6 months ago
in Metadata on Metadata- A Great Idea! on Kyle Brady: A Blog
Kyle, I hears ya. And all I can say is that, it's beta man, just beta. The pieces will fall out somewhere and only the good interfaces and tools that matter will prevail. Leave it to the alpha geeks who figured out how to get paid to geek out like scoble and arrington to hash it out.
I've been begging... begging to find a good meta/content/pipe ever since my eyes glazed over on FriendFeed. This morning I played with swurl, switchabit, and am about to give moopz a shot. Last weekend it was tweetdeck. All these have inherent weaknesses and are destined down a design path already started by their creators. The field is all wide open on this and it's clear that no one really has a true edge.
So, sorry pal, it won't end tomorrow. This is just a process that has to happen. But you have every good reason to vent as the rest of us do when a) twitter goes down b) all that's being covered is iPhone release hype c) you realize you've wasted plenty more time on another beta tool for metacontent that you know won't go anywhere. Just hey, get it out and then go find your zen. Mine's hitting the off switch and hanging out with the dog. The same craziness will be back again Monday morning when they come back from their foocamp.
I've been begging... begging to find a good meta/content/pipe ever since my eyes glazed over on FriendFeed. This morning I played with swurl, switchabit, and am about to give moopz a shot. Last weekend it was tweetdeck. All these have inherent weaknesses and are destined down a design path already started by their creators. The field is all wide open on this and it's clear that no one really has a true edge.
So, sorry pal, it won't end tomorrow. This is just a process that has to happen. But you have every good reason to vent as the rest of us do when a) twitter goes down b) all that's being covered is iPhone release hype c) you realize you've wasted plenty more time on another beta tool for metacontent that you know won't go anywhere. Just hey, get it out and then go find your zen. Mine's hitting the off switch and hanging out with the dog. The same craziness will be back again Monday morning when they come back from their foocamp.
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Kyle Brady
Pete, I think you missed my entire point. The fact that people like Scoble or Arrington push these things like they're dealing coke is part of the problem... and leaving them to "hash it out" is not going to end well.
My other point was the opposite of your third paragraph. I'm tired of hearing about Twitter. The iPhone. And everything else like that. Which is more or less all you see on FriendFeed (along with other Web 2.0 nonsense), and it needs to go away.
Finally, if a tool like this needs to exist (a way to filter FriendFeed), then it should be internally. The "someone else will do it" model that Twitter loves so much is being lazy, and admitting you're just peddling crap.
--Kyle
My other point was the opposite of your third paragraph. I'm tired of hearing about Twitter. The iPhone. And everything else like that. Which is more or less all you see on FriendFeed (along with other Web 2.0 nonsense), and it needs to go away.
Finally, if a tool like this needs to exist (a way to filter FriendFeed), then it should be internally. The "someone else will do it" model that Twitter loves so much is being lazy, and admitting you're just peddling crap.
--Kyle
Wrong.
But thanks for trying anyways.
--Kyle