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Re: The Morning After - Some Thoughts

Jonzee — Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:49:00 -0000

You and your family are not alone. I will not, under any circumstance, ever vote for HRC. And several of my friends have indicated the same. Now the issue is, that older voters who voted for BO might very well go ahead and vote for her because they believe having a Democrat is better at any cost.

Not me. I may very well vote for the other white meat. At least, for the most part, he is who he says he is.

Re: If Hillary Gets To Claim Michigan And Florida, Denver Will Burn

Jonzee — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:33:00 -0000

Two things...

If it goes down the way I pray that it does not go down, I will be in Denver with you. Wearing my "Acceptably Black T shirt" and protesting like its 1963.

If it goes down the way I pray it does not go down, I will also be changing my party affiliation to Independent immediately. Which is what it was until this election.

Re: She’s Baaaaack. Stephanie Tubbs Jones On Ferraro (video)

Jonzee — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:01:00 -0000

From her District. Sheeit, I'm from her part of town, and I can tell you that she is one of the most regrettably dislikeable politicians I have ever met.

Not to mention she has always been full of sh^$.

Think Clay Davis in horrible lipstick and badly dressed.

Re: Transcript Of Obama Speech: A More Perfect Union (Now With Video) - Update 2

Jonzee — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:26:00 -0000

@ Mac Daddy

I often say about Barack that he has been good at dodging bullets, but I never thought about it in terms of the 3 A.M. phone call rhetoric.

And if the calm and coolness with which he delivered this speech, as though we were having a conversation in our living room like F.D.R's fireside chats is what we can expect when the proverbial sh$% hits the fan, then

clearly he's already ready for anytime of day.

I will be quoting what you said on my blog tomorrow...hope you don't mind.

Re: Hillary " Tonya Harding" Clinton on Wright - ‘ He would not have been my pastor.’

Jonzee — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:58:00 -0000

Perhaps, Senator Clinton should not "throw stones in glass houses" since she not only sat next to Dr. Wright during a prayer breakfast in which he and 11 other men and women of faith were invited during the Monica Lewinsky and impeachment scandal of her husband.

Enough already. I'm more than done. And, as much as some folks have said to me I should support in the general if she is the nominee...

No such a thang Ms. Celie

Re: How White Folks Keep It Real

Jonzee — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:42:00 -0000

@ JJ

Fenty and Booker? The Newest race hustlers? Where did you get that from?

Fenty, well the jury was out on him as far as I was concerened, when he sat on City Council.

But Booker? Have you ever lived in Newark? Do you know the wholesale shennanigans that were used to intimidate government employees during the James administration and both times Booker ran against him? Do you know the fundemental brokeness that he has inherited in a city that is broke, where land has been sold to James cronies at such a steep discount with no due diligence that now the city is mired in a suit to try and recoup the losses.

I'd like to know how folks come to conclusions like that, when the real hustlers are the current mayors of Memphis and Detroit just to name a few.

Re: Gotta Gotta Get Me Some…Economic Stimulus

Jonzee — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 11:03:00 -0000

Um...don't shoot me.

But unfortunately, as someone who has volunteered to help working poor folk file taxes and get the EITC--there are a number of folks--particularly mom's who got pregnant in their teenage years who always seemed to tell me about going to the mall.

Our job was to try to get them to put some money in the bank. Often a hard sell.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:25:00 -0000

Maureen Dowd...I have always read her with a grain of salt. But in recent years, she has traded in her intellectuallism for foolishness.

Here is her latest:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/16/opinion/16dowd.html?em&ex;=1208577600&en;=b72e81dc5cc801fb&ei;=5087%0A

I decided to write to her, and I tried not to be emotional--but so be it:

I stopped reading your column months ago. But every once in awhile I pop in and am usually refreshed by what you write.

But then you write something that clearly shows you are of the belief--whether it is unconscious or not--that Senator Obama is arrogant and cocky--aka an "uppity negro."

I for one, am not interested in whether or not the man can bowl, likes coffee, or eats red meat. I think we have seen what America's years of obsession with "non-intellecutallism." has gotten us. 27 years of decline. Our children are now outperformed in Math and Science amongst industrialized nations. Our public education system is still built on the "manufacturing platform" constructed during the height of the American revolution, during 13 years of economic expansion, most people have actually lost money factoring out inflation, and your concern is why he seems so "law professorish"?

His $500 million campaign, has by all machinations, been run like a lean mean inclusive machine. A pure demonstration of how he might run a country. Senator Clinton has had lend her campaign money and has vendors across the nation asking when they are going to get paid, and you obsess over his "eggheaded-ness"?

I'm beginning to wonder if the media is scarred of what my happen if someone actually treats the American public like that might actually be smart enough to know better. We've got bigger fish to fry, and whether or not he seems "around the way" enough, to qoute an urban colloquialism, is the least of my, and a lot other American's worries.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:43:00 -0000

Somehow, in copying and pasting my response got garbled. Here it is again.

I stopped reading your column months ago. But every once in awhile I pop in and am usually refreshed by what you write.

But then you write something that clearly shows you are of the belief--whether it is unconscious or not--that Senator Obama is arrogant and cocky--aka an "uppity negro."

I for one, am not interested in whether or not the man can bowl, likes coffee, or eats red meat. I think we have seen what America's years of obsession with "non-intellecutallism." has gotten us. 27 years of decline. Our children are now outperformed in Math and Science amongst industrialized nations. Our public education system is still built on the "manufacturing platform" constructed during the height of the Industrial Revolution, and during 13 years of economic expansion, most people have actually lost money factoring out inflation, yet your concern is why he seems so "law professorish"?

His $500 million campaign, has by all machinations, been run like a lean mean inclusive machine. A pure demonstration of how he might run a country. Senator Clinton has had to lend her campaign money and has vendors across the nation asking when they are going to get paid, and you obsess over his "eggheaded-ness"?

I'm beginning to wonder if the media is scarred of what may happen if someone actually treats the American public like they might actually be smart enough to know better. We've got bigger fish to fry, and whether or not he seems "around the way" enough, to qoute an urban colloquialism, is the least of my, and a lot other American's worries.

Re: Daily Open Thread- Greetings to a New Week

Jonzee — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:06:00 -0000

My new blog on housing and community development goes live today.

Housing and community development activity, which profoundly effects the way largely minority communities grow is void of African-American and other minority professionals in positions of significant influence.

Here , I will discuss, opine, and share ideas on housing and community development issues and hopefully spark greater interest and involvement particularly among African-Americans.

Re: How Does Obama Do It?

Jonzee — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:29:00 -0000

Okay. I think you need to take a break. Seriously.

Lookie, here. The fact is that there was no way he was going to win every state--let alone a state that has nearly the same demographic characteristics of Ohio. Two states that are more like each other than any other state in the union--except for other states in the Appalacia region. And nobody, including the Obama campaign thought that PA would go in the win column. The ideas was to close the gap--which they did reducing it by more than 13 points.

This right here is chess, not checkers and we have to be patient enough to get to the end--whatever it takes.

Lastly, so what he lost two in a row? Are you ready to cash in your sense of hope to trade it in for Hillary? Not me. I have yet to hear a Hillary supporter, as of late, make a fact based rational for supporting her.

12 in a row--she has two in a row.

She has branding and name recognition and whether we like it or not, alot of Americans just don't pay attention to the detail.

But if we supporters of Obama give up, when the going gets tough. Well, Clinton will in fact, be right. Won't she?

Now, go drink some tea, put in a movie and relax. We still got time.

Re: Monday Open Thread - How was the weekend?

Jonzee — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:11:00 -0000

A good friend of mine told me that my attachment to this presidential race is "disturbing and scary.". So, I'm backing away from the politcs talk for a minute.

Thank goodness the dinner discussion this weekend in a room full of black folks, was scintilating about a topic other than the primary politics. Gave me good fodder. It was all about whether or not getting an HBCU education is good enough.

As a grad of an "elite" majority school, I say hell yeah.

If for no other reason then to get the opportunity to simply be a student--and not a "black student".

Re: Monday Open Thread - How was the weekend?

Jonzee — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:06:00 -0000

Heeeey...guess it was more convenient for your argument to leave out all the bullshit we have pulled both covert and not so covert.

Maybe "terroristic" is too strong, but are you going to look me in my "face" and tell me that all we are is "the great liberator"? That we have never done anything to anyone or any other nation that could be construed as "terrorizing"? That would take a seriously misconstrued view of history.

And I think there are several nations full of people would say the same.

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: Hi Everybody

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:44:00 -0000

Um, perhaps I am the only one that feels this way, but I think it is a little ridiculous that everyone is saying Dr. Wright is destroying Obama's campaign.

The media has been obsessed with Dr. Wright for months. The issue never died. While we may not appreciate his timing, he has been on the speaking circuit for 30 years. He is one of the most sought after theologians in the nation and he has every right to keep doing what he has been doing for all of his career.

The media's obsession with Dr. Wright is TRYING to destroy Senator Obama's campaign. The more we lament over the man's right to make a living the more power we give it.

I'm moving on. And think all of us should.

Re: Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright at the National Press Club

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:18:00 -0000

You know. I find it funny that we all scream about what a diverse group we are...but when it comes to politics all the sudden we start talking about how all of us need to get in line and behave.

We are all so on the defense about Dr. Wright at this point that no matter what the man says we are going to nash and weep.

Agree. Don't agree. But this conversations sounds eerily like the great number of folks who told Anita Hill to shut up too--so we could get another black man on the SCOTUS.

His reputation has been destroy, his manhood villified for months. He has recieved death threats and all kinds of lewd and licivious things through the US mail. As far as I am concerened he has every right to defend himself. AND KEEP SAYING WHAT HE HAS BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS.

And at the end of the day, the truth is Barack can throw him under the bus--but a 20 year relationship with someone really tells the truth. And at the end of the day, though I am ardent supporter I am not foolish enough to think that Barack is not a politician--although the best one I have ever seen.

Re: About this ‘Electability’ Memo….

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:31:00 -0000

Rikyrah,

I am not voting for her. Neither are any of the people I know.

By time you subtract out the AA voters who refuse to vote for her and the voters of other hues--she would be in a world of trouble.

The question is how can we be more active? At this point I feel like we are singing to the choir and we need to start shouting louder than the Repugnicans.

Re: Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright at the National Press Club

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:12:00 -0000

I found this interesting blog on Dr. Wright from a faith community perspective.

In reality, Dr. Wright might have just done Barack a favor by forcing him to 'Sista Soulja' him.

But I stand by my belief that the mans legacy and life is much greater then the 4 months we have all-left or right--been obsessed with him. Because whether we like it or not Barack being president is not going to solve the many ills societally. And it is going to be the jobs of those activists and community folks to challenge him.

Re: Reverend Dr. Jeremiah Wright at the National Press Club

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:19:00 -0000

@ Ms. Martin

Right on. We are feeding this ridiculous frenzy.

Dr. Wright might have behaved foolishly but in the larger context this is but a moment in pretty good history.

How bout we talk about The Good Reverend John Hagee--how bout we make some noise about that? Instead of sitting around here trying to figure out the best way to further "Repudiate" Dr. Wright.

Re: Ok, Obama Did His Press Conference. Let’s Call Up Catholics, Clinton and McCain

Jonzee — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:42:00 -0000

Well, my dears. NBC just predicted that Hilary would win 50% to Mcfool's 41% and Barack would only win by 1 point against McFool if he is the nominee.

I imagine they are banking on the "House versus Field" thing working out for them.

Me? I'm staying in the field. Although I will keep working, writing, and giving to the Obama campaign (though I am pretty hot right now), I have to say if Gore couldn't win fair and square, an "Arrogant Uppity Negro" has to be destroyed by the press and "The House".

Re: NYT Editorial On Wright And Hagee

Jonzee — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:47:00 -0000

Yesterday and today all over DailyKos, folks were saying and I quote "The blacks need to go handle [Wright]".

I was livid...but as this article so eloquently put it, its to be expected.

Re: NYT Editorial On Wright And Hagee

Jonzee — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:14:00 -0000

This was posted in the comments on Field. I, too, feel this way:

The problem with many whites and particularly those bullshit media pundits like Tweety Matthews, paleo-racist Buchannan, Limpballs, O’lielly, Sean Handjob and that lil bitch Tucker Carlson…and even some racist liberal pundits; they don’t have to offer a insightful or critical review of all facts and aspects in their “privileged” perspective. White privilege maintains a certain and peculiar pattern of assumptions. Father Phleger, the white Catholic priest that Faux News interviewed and didn’t air nationally said something quite disturbing but true. “If a black man speaks against the wrongs of this country, he is considered unpatriotic, anti-american…when a white man speaks out about the wrongs of this country, he’s being critical..” I read the blogs, liberal and conservative, and there is a peculiar line of thinking about any comments made by Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and now Rev. Jeremiah Wright. They media portrays them as nothing more than unwarranted complaints from old leftist black radicals who are somehow looking for fame, media exposure or opportunity to get on their soapbox and stir up shit. Rev. Wright spoke truth to power in his sermons and to characterize him as some kind of racist, America-hating black man is a useful deception to maintain that peculiar divisiveness within the body politic. In context, Rev. Wright had every right to defend himself against those hateful and deceitful characterizations by a media that has become nothing more than a tool for corporate/state-sponsored propaganda. Those blacks (Cynthia McKinney, Harry Belafonte, Rev Wright, Louis Farrakhan, etc.) who still have the balls to speak out against injustice and inequality in this country are ALWAYS label as outside the “mainstream” and anti-American. Because symbolism plays such a subtle but profound role in shaping the American mindset, Obama’s denunciation of Wright was necessary in proving himself worthy of white America’s vote. And even after they played the tried and true willie lynch type, self-hating mindfuck...Barry won't get the brass ring.

This nation has become a caricature much more profane than anything Pastor Wright could ever said…

Re: NYT Editorial On Wright And Hagee

Jonzee — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:26:00 -0000

Square Peg,

That is exactly where I am. At some point, I think you have to show that you will not bend. He has been---for the most part--like a thin reed in a strong wind swaying but never breaking.

Its like his speech on race was that "enough is enough" moment. But now it seems to be tipping from "Drive and Gumption to Win" to "Desperation to be accepted and win"

As he turns up his voice ever louder to "denounce, renounce, repudiate" any and everything, I am concerened about when and what will make him have another "enough is enough" moment or if he finally break to the traditional politics to win.

At the end of the day, if he does succeed what has it cost him and will it be worth it.

The same stands--but with much more gravity if he doesn't.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Holla at us!!

Jonzee — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:36:00 -0000

How 'bout a little laughter via 'Kos?

Re: Michelle Obama & Caroline Kennedy On CNN

Jonzee — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:34:00 -0000

I really enjoyed how she took Malveaux to task. That is what really needs to start happening.

Michelle reminds me so much of the women in my family who have become mentors to me in my moves up the professional ladder.

Such a dynamic women she is!

Re: Thursday Open Thread- One more day til the weekend

Jonzee — Thu, 01 May 2008 15:46:00 -0000

B

Not only should his face be everywhere, he should do like Michelle did on CNN last night and if asked with questions about J. Wright--" I've said all I can about that, lets move forward." and let it be. Its done. Friendship done. Game over. Next!

Also, all us supporters should go to my.barackobama.com and use the phone calling tool to call as many people as we can stand in NC and Indiana this weekend. I have promised myself I will call at least 75 people in NC and In. combined.

Re: Clinton Makes Case For WHITE Appeal

Jonzee — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:00:00 -0000

And if you still think, black folks should hold their nose and vote for her...
Try this on for size

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Jonzee — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:10:00 -0000

Straight from the NY Times--an op ed about how a President Obama would cause issues in negotiating peace in the Middle East because of his Muslim lineage.>

Its an interesting argument--but for some reason, I don't buy it in this case. Seems lots of folks lose all kinds of religious law when it is in their best interest.

Besides that, this all the politcal pundits on Faux News need to push the "Obama is a Muslim" bit again. Thank Goodness lots of folks who believe this don't do the Times

Re: Tuesday Open Thread: What’s Up, People?

Jonzee — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:12:00 -0000

Tubbs-Jones makes my stomach and the stomach of my family members turn...

She reps my parents district, she went to school with my uncles--and she has been a jerk all her life.

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Speak your mind

Jonzee — Wed, 14 May 2008 16:27:00 -0000

Is President Bill Clinton channeling former Alabama Governor George Wallace...

I have always wondered, but after reading this analysis, it's hard to doubt it.

Re: O Hell Nawl Comic On Black Hillary Supporters - Traitors

Jonzee — Wed, 21 May 2008 10:17:00 -0000

I don't think they are traitors...I think just wilfully ignore the facts including my own mother.

See her comments here .

I love my mama, but she is real close to me not admitting we are related.

I also wrote a post in response to all the folks not of color (Clinton and Obama supporters alike) as to my choice to support him.

Re: Al Jazeera In Ohio

Jonzee — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:53:00 -0000

Unfortunately, I from Ohio. GM and Ford were how working class folks made it to the middle class.

Though I grew up in NY, I have been hearing for 20 years this story. Ohio was doing quite well from 87 to 2000. What a difference 8 years of GW makes. The events after 911 have had a significant impact to the near Midwest.

It would have been interesting to see this story talk about Ohio's (and Michigan and Indiana) push to develop Green Collar jobs--something that all of the candidates (not so sure about Republican candidates) have talked about.

Re: Monday Open Thread - It’s a New Week!

Jonzee — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:48:00 -0000

While my own jury is still out on Mr. Ford. I do look at his run for Congress as an interesting case study in the "beating the street" that Obama will need to do going forward to win this thing.

Here is an op-ed in Newsweek discussing strategy for taking the states in the south.>

Re: Wednesday Open Thread - Holla at us!!

Jonzee — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:35:00 -0000

Personally? I'm trying to take a moment to savor the flavor of history made and in the making for five minutes."

I'll be ready to kick some tail in the name of change tomorrow.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:17:00 -0000

Mom's and I kinda fell out over this Democratic primary a couple of months ago--and our conversations have been strained ever since.

Any one have suggestions on how to extend the olive branch to a Hillary supporter who happens to be your mother???

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:40:00 -0000

Ms. Irish

I understand your support for your candidate. But I think some of your reasons for not supporting Obama are based in lack of historical fact. Your assertion that he wants to "get rid of" the foriegn policy directives that "umpteen presidents" has employed is simply not accurate. Tough, reasoned diplomacy by certain presidents has long been regarded as some of the greatest moments in presidential politics. I can point to a few on both sides of the aisle. Harry Truman, FDR, Richard Nixon with China, Ronald Reagan with Russia.

It might be worth your while to go to Senator Obama's website so that you can fully understand his positions. And you can cross reference many of his stands with detailed analysis in the Economist or the Wall Street Journal--both pro and con.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:00:00 -0000

Rikyah,

I know all of the foolishness--alot of what has happened to her campaign has to do with her allowing a bunch of type A men dictate the direction of her campaign. Ms. Solis Doyle and others on staff implored her to recognize that change was what should have been her core message--not all the negative foolishness her one polster, Mr. Penn was all about.

Mismanagment and misreading of the public. I broke it down against my mom on my blog.

But what I think has also happened is that many Hillary supporters became unwilling to listen to what Obama has to say. All the see is the images of the rallys, and all they feel is the pain that they have been waiting for her to run all this time and now it is gone. Rational objectivity for her most rabid supporters has gone out the door.

Just look at the arguments put forth by so many who say they "just don't trust him." Their arguments are mostly based on "I heard..." b.s like Bonita Batrell is knows everything. The independents are the most likely to be objective, look at the issues, and play close attention to what both sides say.

And in my opinion, us Obama supporters, have had some hand in pushing some Hillary supporters that were only minorly vitrolic into the fully raving lunatic column. At this point, even seasoned reasoning won't work with them.

Now, I don't even bother to debate with them. I do engage folks who are interested in the issues and are only slightly leaning or on the fence.

S,

I think your assertion that he has not "asked for" Hillary supporters vote is based in not seeing him lately or in not noting the very big step he took after his speech in Saint Paul.

Perhaps, he was even being respectful by allowing your candidate to decide what she was going to do first. Perhaps, y'all would have cried foul if didn't wait for you guys to "go to [her] website, www.hillaryclinton.com," and tell [her] what you think she should do next.]

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:25:00 -0000

Well, S. I apologize. You are right about your assertion. I think that for women who feel that way, it comes from a long time of "sweetie" on the street and "bitch" in the boardroom. But I don't necessarily think it is a correct assumption in this instance. But I understand my Mama's point of view now.

I think this time, it has been more about generational difference than anything. I think the fact that so many young people have become in some ways "post-racial" and "post gender" is different than what many older folks have lived with all their lives--and instead of seeing how far we have come (and for that matter how far we have to go), they still don't see that what they struggled for is in some ways on our doorstep.

What I think is most interesting is that the mis-trustfulness demonstrated by some of Dr. Wrights statements--just like Obama said--are too rooted in the race and gender issues that have long been prevelant, just like a number of Hillary supporters who feel Obama is stepping on Hillary as a "man" on the back of a more experienced woman.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:22:00 -0000

Ms. Irish,

I respectfully disagree with you about your notion that Senator Obama has not demonstrated the ability to "roll up his sleeves" and get things done. First, if you ever done community organizing, rolling up you sleeve is an understatement. Second, it is widely known, that what your city councilman, your local community development agency, your mayoral adminstration do is much more directly related to your everyday life than anything that occurs on the hill. To that end, Senator Obama's work as a successful organizer at the local level has carried over to his ability to motivate folks on the national level. If the fact that millions of folks have been mobilized by this campaign and his message is not for you, then I feel like I can rightly assume that you prefer that your politicians do all the work not 'we' but them.

Second. Just because the media has only played catchy sound bites, doesn't mean that there is not more meat on the bone. I have watched all of the debates, and I don't see any candidate getting into the wonkish play-by-play necessaery when debating policy--it is TV after all. But if you go look at speeches to policy groups. You might find your answer. And as simple as you want it to be, most policy doc are pages and pages long.

Third. If you want to debate records on the hill--you can compare apples to apples. More bi-partisan authored bills with Senator Obama than Clinton. And at some point, if we are going to move forward as a nation, the partisanship that started going haywire with Nixon and went full steam with Regan has to end.

In the end, I respectfully disagree with you, simply because there are too many issues on the table to allow McCain to schmaltz his way into the White House. But, if 8 years of Bush didn't bother you, then I guess we can only expect that you will choose to pull the lever for McCain.

Though I know I hope and pray not.

Re: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out

Jonzee — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:36:00 -0000

I know I don't have to but...

I'm defending S in this instance. I think S is bringing up some interesting debate points--points based in rational fact based thinking, and I think some of us are getting just as "kool-aid drinky" about Obama as many of the Clintonistas.

It is a fact that Senator Obama said he would meet with Iran without precondition. S is right to express some concern over whether the statement that he would meet with Iranian leaders "if it is in the best interst" of the US is slightly to the left of what he originally said and could be seen as waffling if he is not careful. Personally, I disagree that it is all that different than what senator obama first said. One can meet someone "without precondition" and as long as its in one's interest.

Also, S's premises about how older women feel about Obama's meteoric rise is probably accurate. And it is in someways no different who are fiercely protective of attacks against Barack that are racist or are percieved as such.

Re: Rep. James Clyburn Gets Nasty Racist Calls from Clinton Supporter

Jonzee — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:19:00 -0000

Rhondacoca,

Let me guess? Those dumb heifers are from Staten Island too? There is a special breed of idiocacy amongst those fools. I had the pleasure of living there for awile, and what I learned is if it aint in the post or on the cover of the Enquirer they don't get it. You saw Jungle Fever I'm sure...doesn't Annabella character remind you of most of those unedumacated ( yeah they went to a school but not to learn) NYc Italian American women?

They are just so ignorant that unless we are just drinking together or something, I avoid any and all subjects of substance. Intellectualism is not what alot of those women get exposed to. So sad...

Re: The "Whitey" Video

Jonzee — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 03:30:00 -0000

You jacked me up so bad, that I skipped right to the comments to see how bad it was first. Only if the comments weren't too bad, would I have gone back to watch it.

Re: Tim Wise Stirring the Pot

Jonzee — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:56:00 -0000

@ Town;

Absolutely agreed. I, for one, am not interested in trying to convince a vocal minority of Hillary supporters who would like to throw their rights to the wind because Senator Clinton is not the nominee. They are so emotionally wrapped around her that they cannot see the forest for the trees.

I'm finished with them. I'll keep concerning my self with Independents and on the fence Republicans (like the two on my team at work who have always voted Rethug--and are all about the O man) I think that is where we should be concentrating. The rest of them can get on the bus or stay at the stop in the rain.

Re: Friday Open Thread…..yeah, it’s Friday

Jonzee — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:47:00 -0000

Here is the best commentary on Faux News foolishness with the babymama commentary.

ABB breaks it down.

http://angryblackbitch.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-fox-baby-mama-fucktuptitude.html

Re: Group Of White Folks On Fox Define Michelle As "Angry Black Woman?"

Jonzee — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:25:00 -0000

Well, to defend Mr. Thomas (Hold your rotten tomatos until I am finished please), I watched the thing and what I took from it was that he was saying there are no images via the media that do not show us angry black women. He is right about that. Other than Oprah, every time you see a black woman on the news, or in some political light, the image is of black woman "to fit to be tied".

Everytime they show Congresswoman Waters, she is waiving a piece of paper in one hand and powerfully making a point. Is she always angry? No. But the visuals always make it seem so.

He is right about that.

Re: Group Of White Folks On Fox Define Michelle As "Angry Black Woman?"

Jonzee — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:14:00 -0000

My point was, only, that many MSM visuals work to portray black women as "angry." I did not say it was right, nor do I think it is. My comment was purely about the pictoral display. The soundbites, the pictures in the paper often seem to portray many strong sisters as scowling. While we may not see it that way, the purportment of the visual stereotype plays into the psyche of many "uncolored" folks.

I will say that the media has tried on a number of occasions to portray Donna Brazille as angry...the image is perpetuated often. And of course it is perpetuated to scare folks.

Re: "I Bit My Tongue"

Jonzee — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:00:00 -0000

Greatest quoute ever in the Tuesday's NY Times from Obama. " Yeah. I don't do cowering." I think some of those folks in the CBC think he should humbly kiss the ring...and I think he probably said "I'm not kissing your a$$ get on the bus or get out the way...I'm tired of biting my toungue with y'all."

Yup, I think he cussed said y'all and wished he could have a Newport. I wonder if that would be 'black enough' for Nader? *snark*

Re: Friday Open Thread…..yeah, it’s Friday

Jonzee — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:35:00 -0000

Ah...feels so good to be involved in political activism.

FISA is on hold! But we still have work to do. Here is a list of Senator Office Phones numbers.

I plan to call at least 2.

Bayh (202) 224-5623

Carper (202) 224-2441

Obama (202) 224-2854

Inouye (202) 224-3934

Johnson (202) 224-5842

Landrieu (202)224-5824

McCaskill (202) 224-6154

Mikulski (202) 224-4654

Nelson (FL) (202) 224-5274

Clinton (202) 224-4451

Nelson (NE) (202) 224-6551

Pryor (202) 224-2353

Salazar (202) 224-5852

Specter (202) 224-4254

Feinstein (202) 224-3841

Webb (202) 224-4024

Warner (202) 224-2023

Snowe (202) 224-5344

Collins (202) 224-2523

Sununu (202) 224-2841

Stevens (202) 224-3004

Byrd (202) 224-3954

Lincoln (202)224-4843

Reid (202) 224-3542

Coleman (202) 224-5641

Durbin (202) 224-2152

Smith (202) 224-

Stabenow (202) 224-4822

Kohl (202) 224-5653

Leahy (202) 224-4242

Schumer (202) 224-6542

Re: http://reachblack.blogspot.com/2008/04/preach-rev-jeremiah-wright-defends.html

Jonzee — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:29:00 -0000

I saw your very insightful and humorous comments on Jack and Jill's Monday thread. Favorite part? "Be uncomfortable. Let it burn."

I thought I'd come check it out. I'll be adding you to my reader list.

And my inner-Malcolm is definetly ready to roll!