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2 years ago
in Why I Hate Mailing Lists on dmiessler.com | grep understanding
I've found that most of the lists I'm on -- which are mostly deeply technical lists hosted by the w3.org, sourceforge, perl.org, python.org, and so on -- tend to not have this problem. I don't know what kinds of lists you're on, of course, but I think the symptoms you are describing are symptoms of amateurism (not on your part; I mean the people who are setting up the autoresponders), and not inherent in the medium. For many lists, something like Google/Yahoo groups are probably the most appropriate -- I think that those systems do a good job at filtering out this kind of thing, while mailman and majordomo don't even attempt it.
@Marcin: I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums. The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn't translate well to an interactive conversation. I've yet to see a forums system that doesn't repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.
@Marcin: I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums. The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn't translate well to an interactive conversation. I've yet to see a forums system that doesn't repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.
2 years ago
in Why I Hate Mailing Lists on danielmiessler.com | grep understanding
I've found that most of the lists I'm on -- which are mostly deeply technical lists hosted by the w3.org, sourceforge, perl.org, python.org, and so on -- tend to not have this problem. I don't know what kinds of lists you're on, of course, but I think the symptoms you are describing are symptoms of amateurism (not on your part; I mean the people who are setting up the autoresponders), and not inherent in the medium. For many lists, something like Google/Yahoo groups are probably the most appropriate -- I think that those systems do a good job at filtering out this kind of thing, while mailman and majordomo don't even attempt it.
@Marcin: I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums. The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn't translate well to an interactive conversation. I've yet to see a forums system that doesn't repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.
@Marcin: I have never been able to get into web-based message boards and forums. The batch-based nature of the web simply doesn't translate well to an interactive conversation. I've yet to see a forums system that doesn't repeat all of the problems of usenet, without any of the solutions or optimizations that arose around usenet, like intelligent, protocol-specific clients and redistribution/local caching.
3 years ago
in Why Don’t We Clean Up The PGP Key Servers? on danielmiessler.com | grep understanding
+1
I think the operators of the keyservers disagree, though. In the past, I spent some time on the gnupg-users list, and every once in a while someone would ask how to delete their old unusable keys, and the keyserver operators would chime in with reasons about why it was a bad idea. I don't remember most of the reasons, but I was never quite convinced.
I think the operators of the keyservers disagree, though. In the past, I spent some time on the gnupg-users list, and every once in a while someone would ask how to delete their old unusable keys, and the keyserver operators would chime in with reasons about why it was a bad idea. I don't remember most of the reasons, but I was never quite convinced.
3 years ago
in Why Don’t We Clean Up The PGP Key Servers? on dmiessler.com | grep understanding
+1
I think the operators of the keyservers disagree, though. In the past, I spent some time on the gnupg-users list, and every once in a while someone would ask how to delete their old unusable keys, and the keyserver operators would chime in with reasons about why it was a bad idea. I don't remember most of the reasons, but I was never quite convinced.
I think the operators of the keyservers disagree, though. In the past, I spent some time on the gnupg-users list, and every once in a while someone would ask how to delete their old unusable keys, and the keyserver operators would chime in with reasons about why it was a bad idea. I don't remember most of the reasons, but I was never quite convinced.
