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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL SHAKE-UP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:14:57 -0000

Quigley has been doing Moore's job because she is greedy and she has to be in control of everything. The shelter is jacked up because of her. The shelter is jacked up because Moore was too scared stand up to her. Why put her into the position that she has been doing all along? Put someone into Moore's position that put her in her place.

Re: ‘BREAKDOWNS’ LED TO BRUTAL DEATH OF ANIMAL SHELTER DOG | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:33:28 -0000

I think the number is 3 cc of cotton candy given IDC (intradepartmental cover-up)

Re: ‘BREAKDOWNS’ LED TO BRUTAL DEATH OF ANIMAL SHELTER DOG | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:49:37 -0000

Let’s all go to the Long Beach Post link here to view a cover up by LBAC

http://www.lbreport.com/news/apr08/anicont.htm

The City Manager of Long Beach admitted to the press that the shelter did not have a Veterinary Premise Permit. In this same article, Pat West also said that as of 4/7/08 Loren Eslinger is the Veterinarian for the facility. Why is it that Dr. Karen Halligan-SPCA LA Veterinarian applied last week to be the premise Vet for Long Beach Animal Shelter? Let's now look at 2nd District Weekly article. Pat West stated that Dr. Eslinger is the shelter Vet. Where is she? Has anyone seen her at the shelter? That was almost 2 weeks ago. Dr. Halligan (SPCA LA Veterinarian) apparently applied for a premise the same week that the city hired Dr. Eslinger. Who the hell is the Veterinarian at Long Beach and why are we being lied to? This is the real problem. Either Pat West has been "misquoted" in 2 different articles or someone is trying to pull a fast one. It would be easy to find out by calling the Long Beach Shelter and ask to speak to the Veterinarian. If they tell you she is not in, and then ask to leave a voice mail. I bet they will take a written message. A cover up is good for the beach because it hides what is actually underneath it. This cover up is ripped and this makes it easy to see what is really inside.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:56:37 -0000

They can have the PT, that publication is for corrupt, lying government workers. The articles that they write are fiction and full of BS. "Q" virus is easily eradicated with a can of raid.

Re: ANIMAL CONTROL SHAKE-UP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:14:35 -0000

Wow, someone in #127 did not read the disclamer. If you really wanted your comment to be read and takin seriously (other than by Noah's Ark) you would of refrained from the cuss words. Go back to work because you are being watched very closely. If you do not like this "moderator", go back to the Press Telegram with the other corrupt supervisors and staff at LBAC. Take Noah's Ark with you.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:53:21 -0000

Is Quigleygate the same person who mentioned Lobstergate in the previous article? If it is , You Rock!!!!

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:17:31 -0000

Can't keep her forever, just like the shelter animals. 6 days are up. Call rescue.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:46:50 -0000

4/9/08 LBPost.com printed- “Just days after, protocol was violated again as a euthanized cat when unchecked for 6 hours and was found to still be alive before being properly disposed.”

The title said Euthanasia Mishandling(S) There is another animal to investigate. This issue is being ignored and hidden for a reason. Who is responsible for this act of cruelty and why is it not public like the dog?

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:56:19 -0000

4/10/08 Gazette printed – “Once investigations began, a second case involving a feral cat came to light. An attempt to euthanize the animal apparently failed, and the animal was left in a cage for more than six hours before it was discovered and dealt with.”

There also will be an outside investigator conducting the investigation into the mishandled animal incidents.

INCIDENTS!!!!

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:34:42 -0000

#80 + #81. Ask 7:00am clerk who finally euthanized this cat in the morning.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:07:51 -0000

You need to get over this class action thing. Check with Noah's Ark, they may need your referrals.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:05:50 -0000

Funny.... the city council was actually revoking business licenses tonight at the meeting. I guess LB can get away with questionable business pratices. Do as I say, not as I do. Typical. Shut down your shelter Long Beach.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:12:46 -0000

West said there would be a review of the management system at Animal Control, including an examination of the reason behind six vacancies of animal handlers.

"I'm not sure why we're short," he said.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:30:53 -0000

Neds is for beginners. No time for that. Come back when you get your pro card.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:05:24 -0000

Lets go to Dollar beer night with What up. Kinda like your enemy throwing your going away party. Sounds Fun.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:07:36 -0000

Naahhh, that's a bad idea, scribble my name off

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:10:32 -0000

She can wait for the next verdict on the tax payers

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:16:24 -0000

No scribble, sorry. wrong person.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:17:40 -0000

Scribble might throw your party.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:19:29 -0000

No class action or other law suits, just terminations.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:23:53 -0000

I would do the same thing.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:25:38 -0000

Scribble my name off your party list.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:45:06 -0000

The rest are sent to a farm where they live out the rest of their lives? What a minute, where are the rescue groups?

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:26:10 -0000

MISSION STATEMENT
spcaLA is dedicated to the prevention of cruelty to animals through Education, Law Enforcement and Intervention.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:51:37 -0000

Take a peek at the comments posted about animal control and then look at the other articles on this site. You cannot sit there and think that this is a "few" former employees that are mad. You better believe this issue upsets more than just them. Obvious.

Re: ANIMAL CONTROL SHAKE-UP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:06:02 -0000

why do you keep coming back every night trying to defend yourselves. You got something to defend? Your job? Your lies?

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:10:17 -0000

Patience.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:17:17 -0000

Nothing worth looking at there.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:28:07 -0000

Tell spoiled to posted it here and then we will decide.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:31:42 -0000

No, just news on some action.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:03:43 -0000

I think they made a mistake. Instead on Lt. they should put Dr. It is a simple typo.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:07:40 -0000

I want to see the chain of command. It needs a few revisions.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:32:06 -0000

So are Lt.'s exempt from being suspended without pay for a "botched" euthanasia incident?

Do as I say not as I do.

Re: ‘BREAKDOWNS’ LED TO BRUTAL DEATH OF ANIMAL SHELTER DOG | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:16:53 -0000

Don't play down your postings. You must of been drunk everytime because none of it makes sense. Some examples are:

I have not posted one name also

First I was drunk. I said I have not targeted or said anything about anyone specific and do not put anything down that I have heard about.

my real name is tonya now what do you have to say

ps I am ron

Christine what hole have you been hiding in?

I don't target anyone

I have a major problem with that should shut up because there is so much dirt on them it is not funny and if need I will pull everything out AND BURY THEM.
First if you are talking to me bite me was not me. I am sitting back and watching and waiting you all play nice.

I will stay out and not bend like steel. Shaking things up is not hard with this crew you are all at each others throats and don't know who is saying what.

P.S. I noticed you said I have not posted on this site so you have posted on others then....

what are you put on there if you are not on leave?

Now you are calling names. I am a coward who starts something and the goes in hiding? I think that the rest of the click need to jump off the ship also with the rest.

I am not saving posts

I have a file of a couple of people that are using this as a personal attack on people that have nothing to do with this

I will stay out and not bend like steel.

The City is only interested in the "alleged" brutality and negelct not this gossip and personal hatred you have for each other.

I have stopped as I stated

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:20:11 -0000

Don’t play down your postings. You must of been drunk everytime because none of it makes sense. Some examples are:

I have not posted one name also

First I was drunk. I said I have not targeted or said anything about anyone specific and do not put anything down that I have heard about.

my real name is tonya now what do you have to say

ps I am ron

Christine what hole have you been hiding in?

I don’t target anyone

I have a major problem with that should shut up because there is so much dirt on them it is not funny and if need I will pull everything out AND BURY THEM.
First if you are talking to me bite me was not me. I am sitting back and watching and waiting you all play nice.

I will stay out and not bend like steel. Shaking things up is not hard with this crew you are all at each others throats and don’t know who is saying what.

P.S. I noticed you said I have not posted on this site so you have posted on others then….

what are you put on there if you are not on leave?

Now you are calling names. I am a coward who starts something and the goes in hiding? I think that the rest of the click need to jump off the ship also with the rest.

I am not saving posts

I have a file of a couple of people that are using this as a personal attack on people that have nothing to do with this

I will stay out and not bend like steel.

The City is only interested in the “alleged” brutality and negelct not this gossip and personal hatred you have for each other.

I have stopped as I stated

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Mon, 12 May 2008 00:35:10 -0000

Another one bites the dust.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Tue, 13 May 2008 01:35:35 -0000

lift up the carpet.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:29:42 -0000

Bye Bye Sgt P Lonely Hearts Club Band

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 15 May 2008 10:08:12 -0000

The Manager is gone, the training officer is gone, the staff is still overworked, the new vet has not been seen and the new vet tech will be a nightmare. The animals are still not getting what they need. Out of the loop? Clueless Morons? I don't think so. This ACO gave his notice and it was kept quiet for a very good reason. Hiding things is not the way to go at this point. Long Beach should be ashamed.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:47:23 -0000

No, his resignation had nothing to do with the euthanasia incident. WM's resignation had nothing to do with it either, right? What a crock ! It just so happened that they both resigned at the same time when it went down. Forced or not, guilt is the reason.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 16 May 2008 00:50:28 -0000

This article may be old news. 1 month old news and almost 300 comments later. The truth is simple. Gay couples want to be legal and LBAC does not.
" I do, till death do us part" Keep killing Long Beach.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 16 May 2008 01:12:19 -0000

SPCA is just as guilty. The management and staff are fully aware of the neglect and abuse. They never took action. They may not of have neglected the animals, but they watched it day in and day out and did nothing. A worthless organization just like LBAC. They may not be using tax payers money, but they are using large donations given to them by people to help the animals. Poor little innocent spca can do no wrong. NOT !!!! Guilt by association you cowardly onlookers.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sat, 17 May 2008 02:20:44 -0000

Both will leave if they are not forced out. Monster Truck will not put up with a 5 day work week. Romper Room will no longer run up and down the halls of the shelter. Tim Tim will leave because she is not in control anymore . No power, no joy. Bye Bye.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sat, 17 May 2008 12:00:05 -0000

I understand your frustration. I wish that District would print a pack of lies. You want to read a piece of crap? Go to the PT. They will fluff the stories up for you. One fish to fish red fish blue fish. Don't worry, It is just a job, you can find another one. To 304 - obviously you care about something because you keep coming back to read the comments. It's just a job, you can find another one. 2 down and 2 to go. Others will follow. BYE BYE

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sun, 18 May 2008 22:42:32 -0000

Does she want to get laughed at some more. If she is smart she will run like the others.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Mon, 19 May 2008 15:46:48 -0000

Mr. Moore's name never made it on the Civil Service agenda. SP is already listed on this weeks agenda. Everyone else made it. Where's did he go? Is he still getting paid and might possible come back? Hmmmmmm. According to the Civil Service Commision website, there is no evidence of him resigning or retiring. He was not reassigned, reclassified, dissmissed or transfered. What the Hel* !!! I really don't get it. Proof is here.

http://www.longbeach.gov/civilservice/commissio...

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 21 May 2008 10:19:40 -0000

george, sam whoever, soon you will come to realize that there are laws to protect the animals. The pt writes lies because the city manager tells lies. He is oblivious and should check the laws before he opens his mouth. You should do the same. This is not 1980.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 21 May 2008 10:50:36 -0000

I'm glad you are finally back with us. You are valued as an employee and a co-worker. The animals are in good hands with you. Keep your head high and do what you do best, put the animals first. I know you will. You go girl!!!

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 21 May 2008 11:46:48 -0000

not working there and not NA, just someone who knows. He may not be back officially, but he is lingering,waiting for something.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 23 May 2008 23:07:08 -0000

LBAC may have a piece of paper stating they have a vet, but the fact is they do not. George you can say whatever you want, but the truth is that the fate and health of the shelter animals are still in the hands of upper management. Dr. E helped out at the old facility, that was years ago. Better yet, talk to Christine and find out how many times a vet "visited" the shelter in the past couple of years. She is the one that would know. Hello Christine!!! How many vets came around?

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 29 May 2008 11:38:33 -0000

You keep your eyes and ears open but your mouth shut . A city employee busted this whole thing open. Volunteers and the SPCA should of took action a long time ago. There is no reason to watch if you are not going to do anything about it.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:41:06 -0000

#380, you are sooooo right. Everybody knows this and no-one will open their mouth. SPCA is thought of as god and I don't know why. As for the funding, someone does need to look into it. Long Beach is corrupt and so is the SPCA. I have witnessed SPCA sell large item donations like vehicles to friends. Not sure if that money is pocketed or what.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:52:13 -0000

I'm not sure who you think I am with the "bunion" question.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:55:45 -0000

A no kill shelter would be great but "no kill" has a broad definition. It pretty much means that you can only kill certain animals and then the shelter is labeled as no kill shelter. You can only kill animals that are "suffering" as deemed by a veterinarian or you can kill any animal that a behavioral issue (whatever the shelter decides these issues are) Very broad, especially since this shelter is lacking properly trained professionals that should be making these decisions.This shelter will never be no-kill as long as animal control is in charge of making medical decisions for the animals and SPCA still uses their few untrained supervisors who are embarrassingly in charge of picking the animals to go over to their side. A bigger issue than all the dogs,cats and rabbits dying is the huge amount of wildlife that is killed because Animal Control denys them a chance to go to rescue. Someone at the shelter please hire HSUS. They will whip this shelter into shape. This shelter has great potiential but cannot make their own rules.

Re: ‘LONG LIVE GAY DOGS’ | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:58:26 -0000

He** Yeah !!! Good job Dave. You are on the right track. There is so much more to uncover, but this article should get things rolling. This is the best one yet. Keep digging, you will be surprised.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:17:56 -0000

It's over for you and your one man band. Read the new article and weep. As for the 400 people who kept this topic alive, thank you. Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. The interest and support in this battle has been astonishing. Animal activists are taking over now, so run and hide. These people do not play. If things were handled properly back in March, we wouldn't be here today.

Re: ‘LONG LIVE GAY DOGS’ | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:17:32 -0000

PRESS TELEGRAM

Wednesdays- Letters to the Editor

Rabbits abandoned

I volunteer at Long Beach Animal Control. I wish people would think before they adopt a rabbit. Remember, rabbits don't stay cute little bunnies for long. You need a large cage for them to grow into, and the cage gets cleaned every day, besides exercising them every day.

Too many people get a rabbit because the kids want a cute, little bunny, then the kids lose interest, and the rabbit is abandoned. Don't get a rabbit if you are not going to have it spayed or neutered, care for it, and love it till the day it dies.

Judy Griffith

Long Beach

employee
Long Beach, CA Reply »
|Report Abuse |#6 5 min ago

There are no volunteers at Long Beach Animal Control. The SPCA shut that program a long time ago. SPCA volunteers are restricted to caring for the animals on their side only. You are right about one thing Judy, owners need to take care of the animals they adopt. Thank you for your continued dedication. If the SPCA would actually allow Long Beach have a volunteer program then we wouldn't kill 99.9% of the shelter rabbits! Better yet, way to go SPCA for forbidding Animal Control to adopt out animals. I hope this contract between SPCA and Long Beach is available for public view. SPCA is "indirectly" responsible for the senseless deaths of hundreds of thousands of animals. Some things are not all what they appear to be. It sickens me.

Re: ‘LONG LIVE GAY DOGS’ | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:05:24 -0000

To #8 and Dave Wielenga:

Great Questions and I agree that DW is the only publication doing the right thing, printing the juiciest story that this city has been involved with so far. I would like to respond to some of your questions and in turn anyone out there that has answers or knowledge to anything posted by #8, please post it. This is the only way to lead to the true issues at Animal Control. I really mean the true issues at animal control and the SPCA. Things are about to get ugly for them.

VM Question #1 – No charges have been filed for the animal cruelty as of yet because there was no evidence of cruelty. The city appears to have dismissed these charges for now. He is suspended over some other petty issue that the department was cooking up for months. He is still not back at work, still not getting paid and has possibly been terminated over this unrelated issue.

Roger Question#2 – No Roger is not officially in charge of the shelter; John Keisler is Acting Manager right now. We have been told that Roger is there to help with the transition, he is there to help with the internal investigation and we have also been told he will only be there until the new manager gets set in. He does want to be there anyway, it just looks better that he is there.

Live Barrel Question#3 – No charges have been filed because that employee was suspended over Cruelty and possibly terminated already over other bull*** that was planned before the events happened. This employee was obviously targeted before the euthanasia incident. SP watched this struggle, knowing VM was on his way out anyway.

Question #4 – Vet Question –Yes, there is a Part-time Vet at the facility now. She finally appeared at the shelter last week for the first time to do rounds, almost 2 months after she was hired with the city. This Vet was also turned into the Medical Board for supplying the shelter with an illegal Controlled Substance License for the shelter. The Medical Board recently granted the City a premise permit to this Vet that was involved in fraudulent controlled substance activity. Why did she agree to being the premise after saying “no” months earlier. Maybe she thinks it will help her when the Board finally comes to inspect.

Question #5 – Function Question – This is the best question of them all. They “dysfunction” together. What is supposed to be a “joint” effort is actually the opposite. There is constant bickering, back stabbing between the management on both sides. The animals are obviously cared for better on the SPCA side. They have ample donations of bedding, food and other necessities. They also have more people to care for the animals, not to mention the large amount of volunteers on their side every day. Their side of the facility has been modified and is always in working condition. The floor heaters in the dog cottages are always working and their cats are in a building away from the heat and cold. The animals well taken care of and are spoiled if they reach it over there. Animal Control is a different story. Floor heaters are always broken and it is colder because the SPCA decided to cover open air windows on their side only. So, combine a cold winter night with drafty holes in the kennels, lack of bedding, lack of employees to change and wash the bedding and broken floor heaters. Sounds like paradise to me, especially for a nursing mom or a small skinny dog. Their cattery is very functional and humane. Animal Control’s new cattery is very dysfunctional, inhumane and stressful to the cats.
The fate of all the shelter animals initially lies in the hands of Long Beach supervision. They decide if they are “healthy” enough to stay for the hold period. After that, the SPCA selects an animal based on what the medical staff recommends first and then somebody (??????) agrees with them and they take the animal. The rest of animals die with the exception of a handful a month that go to AMRT or one of the other small lists of rescues that Long Beach deals with. The real question is: Where are all the rescues? I have been told by several rescues that they just can’t stand dealing with this shelter. The shelter does not actively contact rescues. The animals just die. Someone enlighten us please.

Question#6 – Wildlife Question – The shelter kills almost all of the wildlife with a few exceptions. Healthy or not they die. Nice work!

Question #7 – Investigation Question – The full report will not be available for a few months. No prelims will be published.

Question#8- Financial Incentive question- I don’t think this is the issue at all. Long Beach kills because adoptions on the SPCA side are few and far between. The SPCA only takes a small chunk of what actually comes into the shelter. The SPCA adoption application is really difficult to be accepted so the animals that they do take stay a long time. Finally, we come to the rescue question. Rescues do not come and get the animals, so Long Beach kills them. Believe it or not, all this is directly related to the SPCA. Rescues do not want to deal with the SPCA for some reason. SPCA forbids adoptions on the animal control side. It is not a financial problem; it is a control freak problem.

Question#9 – Investigation Question – The investigation for the euthanasia incident is over and the report is being written. A private investigator is handling it. I don’t think that their findings will be made public but I pray someone will find a way. The report is going to the city manager. It is not at all a directive; it is findings and recommendations only. It will be the City’s choice if they decide to follow these recommendations. That sums it up. Nothing may happen at all. Exciting!!!

Question #10 – Christine Question- Someone please tell us the status of Christine’s complaint. They have not been out to investigate yet. The Veterinary Medical Board ignored her complaint and decided to grant Long Beach a Premise Permit before looking into things further. Christine just got slapped in the face by the State. That is shocking but typical government behavior. I have personal knowledge that the City of Long Beach has been in contact with the Medical Board Investigator in charge of this case. The investigator was told by them that they don’t know why Christine filed a complaint and that she was mistaken because Animal Control has had a Vet all along. Wow!

Re: ‘LONG LIVE GAY DOGS’ | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:49:20 -0000

See the Press Telegram article 4/6/08 - front page

Anne wrote:
It is surprising to me that the City is claiming that only 57 adoptable animals were euthanized at the shelter last year. I'd like to know what evidence they can offer to support that. First of all, how do they define feral? Any cat that is in a shelter environment, even the most domesticated and placid of cats, will be crazed with fear and appear feral-like. The attitude that produces this kind of spin, which common sense tells us is patently not true, is troubling. Long Beach, and all municipalities that run "Kill" animal shelters need to experience a paradigm shift - the way that animals are treated currently in city animal shelters is not acceptable. Cities need to work to find more creative solutions to the animal overpopulation problem. Kudos to the Coalition for starting this process.

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Long Beach, CA

Anne, those figures need to be redone. Here is why. Most of the healthy wildlife that was euthanized should of been sent to rescue or relocated, most of the injured wildlife should of been sent to rescue where a VETERINARIAN would diagnose them to be suffering. Most the shelter animals that were euthanized for being sick or injured cannot be counted as sick or injured because they were not seen by a VETERINARIAN and diagnosed with a condition or injury. They could of been perfectly healthy for all we know. People that are making these decisions should not of been involved. So count all sick and injured animals as adoptable animals. Neither proper nor legal procedures were not used to determine the life or death. As for the 57 adoptable animals, you guessed it, that number is not correct either. The SPCA marks animals as "unadoptable" all the time for various bullsh** reasons which are medical or behavioral. Diagnoses and behavioral conditions are just some lame persons wild guess, boldface lie or just because they really don't know what the hell they are doing. A lot of time reasons are made up because they have to put something down as for why they are not taking the animal or else they would look bad. The SPCA employs the "Vet" and the "behaviorists" who come up the "reasons" these animals will die. Long Beach's euthanasia statistics are a joke and now they are being blamed for all the killings. You can't blame Long Beach for all the killings because the SPCA refuses 80% of the animals and they will not let Long Beach adopt out the animals that are not selected. Well then rescue should be called right? No, rescue organizations in a whole refuse to come into the shelter, they do not want to deal with the SPCA and Long Beach has trouble soliciting rescues because of this. Has all of this enlightened everyone? I really am sickened by the blame and ridicule that has been put on animal control, SPCA is the reason all of these shelter animals are killed. The proof is here. I you do not believe me, just wait and see. SPCA is not what they appear to be. This new activist group that is coming in to "revamp" Long Beach Animal Control really should go to the other side of the building were the real problem lies.

Re: ‘LONG LIVE GAY DOGS’ | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:55:51 -0000

Why should people trust you Ms. Kwast? Give us some good reasons. I think people are afraid that you will give up their identity. I think you might have some trouble getting people to come to you. You have a lot of good information posted on these blogs and you just need to find out who is being truthful.

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:38:56 -0000

You obviously are close to WM because you keep mentioning how he was treated. Too bad! He was weak and he let them treat him like that. What comes around goes around. The staff went to him for help and he was not interested and everyone knew that he would not take care of things. That is why everyone went to MQ. She pretty much did all of his dirty work while he was off at parades, meetings and surfing the web. He would actually pass things down to her if she didn't already take care of it.

The only miss-truths in this article are your postings.

Long Beach may call the few rescue groups they deal with but the fact is the rescues do not come in to the shelter or take animals from the shelter. I find that very odd. I am sure rescuers are being called more than ever the last 2 months. Too late.

Long Beach has no right to decide if a rescue group is "responsible" at this point. "Do as I say, not as I do"

How can you say that a "Vet" was consulted when the 70 cats were killed? The shelter did not have a Vet at that time. Please tell us who diagnosed these 70 cats with this contagious diesase? The RVT? Last time I check an RVT was not a Vet. Someone should look at the medical records.

Sincerely,
initial source

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:43:50 -0000

#399 was directed to "george"

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:00:31 -0000

To #401

Thank you for your words. You mentioned "isolation". You can ask the SPCA why Long Beach no longer has adequate cat isolation. The long beach cat population was prematurely kicked out of the main building that housed the cats and moved into a building that was not finished. The SPCA stated that they needed the inside rooms and the cats would have to go. Ask them how long the main cat room remain locked and empty before they made use of it. Months and months went by before they turned it into a "meet and greet" room. I am guessing around 6 months or longer. Meanwhile, the cats are being house in a building that has no protection from the elements. Cats were subjected to extreme temperatures in the summer and were seen panting from the heat and later were forced to spend the night shivering in metal cages. SPCA ran out of funding and decided to finish and put the rest of the money into the Grooming and Boarding area instead of using the funds to make a humane Cat Cottage. The building also was a nightmare for the employees. No counters, cabinets, storage or work areas were put into the building. The public is not allowed into the building (per the SPCA), so the cats have to be arranged to be viewed from the outside. This leaves less room for cages and more shelter deaths. Here comes the isolation part. The isolation room could only house 4-6 cats because it was so small. Several complaints were made to Long Beach and SPCA and no-one seemed to care about the situation. At one point the SPCA Vet was so upset about the temperature in the building, that she complained that it was inhumane. That was almost a year ago. Recently, large fans were installed in the rooms. Not only is george a complete idiot, but the SPCA is right along with him/her.

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:16:18 -0000

Can Mario crunch some more numbers with the revised information below?

7,965 animals total

88 percent cannot be right beause "unsuitable" does not mean "it barks at me". You cannot count most of the animals that were deemed " irremediable" because they were not diagnosed by a Veterinarian. You cannot count most of the wildlife because they should of been seen by a Veterinarain, released to a rescue or relocated. I think this 88% fiqure is more on the lines of 40%-50%. So let's go in the middle at 45%.

What is the "revised" total?

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:58:31 -0000

Sorry Wag, I have know idea why this how this "relationship" happened. I was hoping that others can enlighten me. The marriage "appears" to be wonderful, but like most marriages, it has failed because of poor communication, lack of understanding and listening skills. Most of the behavior between each other is down right selfish. I have not been around long enough to know the history, but there is one thing I do know, the SPCA should be in the included in the blame of the very many neglective conditions and killings of the Long Beach Shelter animals. I am currently searching for the contract between the 2 entities and I would love it if someone could find it for me. Better yet, cut and paste that sucker right on this blogsite. The truth is right in that contract. The public has the right to know the real issue.

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moorescoop — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:30:54 -0000

The same? Bullsh**! The animals do not get treated the same at all. Proof is in the first article. Animals are euthanized differently. SPCA euthanizes humanely and Animal Control euthanizes inhumanely. the SPCA cats are treated with dignity and respect and the Long Beach cats are neglected, mistreated and forced into stressful conditions. I am still trying to find that contract.

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moorescoop — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:40:30 -0000

To Wag: I think you are very right, but here is the sad truth. No one (including the Times) would touch this story with a 10 foot pole. You really don't know how frustrating this has been. The PT was offered a chance well before the DW and it was not until after the DW article, PT printed another version of the story. This was only because the City of Long Beach invited them over for a media briefing. Everyone was offered and no one seemed to want this very huge and newsworthy story. I think you just hit the nail on the head. The public has a fluffy view of this animal shelter, mainly because the SPCA is involved. It is like trying to convince the world that the Brady Bunch raped and killed someone. People would think you were frickin nuts. I am still shocked that this has not been on the news. The City of Long Beach pretty much admitted that they have a problem. A big problem. A killing a lot of animals problem. They have admitted to staffing shortages, animal neglect, inhumane euthanasia and they admitted they have denied the animals of proper vet care.

Everyone should forget the fact that a government shelter is involved in this, because it happens all the time. Open your eyes and realize that the SPCA has had knowledge of everything that has been going on for years. This is the real kicker. It's not like there is a wall separating the 2 sides down the middle.

Pairing up with Christine is a good idea, but I think she has been through enough. The City initially decided to throw the blame her way in the PT. Certain individuals have been attacking her on these blogs to try to save their a**. We can all take a big guess who they are at this point.

Now that the City has been caught with their pants down, time to work on the party driving the get away car (SPCA). Are they exempt from being in trouble because of their name? Can they do no wrong? Brady Bunch Syndrome.

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moorescoop — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:56:13 -0000

Wag: Thank you for your support. As for poster #12, I don't need to read it because I have been living it. Thanks DW : )

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moorescoop — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:17:46 -0000

Isolation is too small for all of us. There is only room for 6 writers. I can't wait until you turn out the closet light and forget to feed and clean us. I think 70 of us would fit inside the isolation room into one of the 6 cages.

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moorescoop — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:54:30 -0000

You are right #29; this crap does happen at shelters across the USA. How many of those shelters have the title with SPCA in them? You are wrong about why the other papers have not picked up this story. If SPCA was not involved in this problem and it was just a government shelter, then this would be all over multiple papers. Look at the LA City and County shelter’s, their stories are plastered everywhere, even on the news. SPCA's Animal Companion Village is accused of things others are in trouble for.

I guess it would be acceptable if we neglect, abuse and kill animals in this one shelter. They don’t matter anyway. We will let this one slide because SPCA is involved.

You have your agenda and so do we. We want to humanely care for the animals that are on this earth now. You want to prevent them from being born so they are not abused, neglected and then killed. Can't we work together with our different causes and understand and support each other? Open your mind and realize that your cause is not the only important issue on this planet. You are promoting something that is going to reduce the animal population in the future. You will always be respected for what you do and should be proud to be behind such an important issue. On the other hand, we cannot abuse, neglect or forget about the shelter animals that are here today. This story was not put out there so we can prove that one issue is more important than another. This is why the partnership at this facility failed. 2 folks with different views could not come together and work towards helping the animals. Both organizations involved closed their minds to each other and animals suffered because of it.

Please understand and respect what is being done here, in turn you will get the respect that you deserve.

Initial source

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moorescoop — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:32:15 -0000

Good point Ellen, the cats didn't deserve to be put into the conditions they were subjected to. They didn't deserve to die because of it either.

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moorescoop — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:39:09 -0000

Thanks for listening and giving some information that is positive. I believe that the partnership is moving into the right direction. The separate isolation/hospital area is important and people like yourself can help make them aware of it. Long Beach has not has a voice in the building and I hope that will change. Every attempt has been made and has been shut down and ignored. I think things will be different now that there is someone else to voice concerns for the animals. I don't think that was a "sermon" at all. You share some valuable information and that is greatly appreciated.

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:01:31 -0000

Wow! Now this is something to discuss. Where you guys months ago?

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:21:38 -0000

No extra funds needed for a hosptial, they can use the beautiful boarding and grooming facility that is usually empty. It would be perfect.

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:50:33 -0000

He has not officially resigned yet so maybe they are going to bring him back. Help is always needed in the kennels and in the euthanasia room.

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:41:55 -0000

Are you guys in a "unique partnership" like the folks in the Animal Companion Village ?

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:16:36 -0000

I would really like to know why the SPCA has "google orders". Very few negative search results end up on the search page. This is fraud and an indirect way to keep information away from the general public.

Brady Bunch Syndrome lives on !

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:08:54 -0000

The euthanasia stats say that 88% of the animals were "unsuitable for placement" and she makes $120,000 per year. Were they using the same calculator?

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moorescoop — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:36:12 -0000

To "Steven"

Talented ACO's are hard to keep, not hard to find. They are everywhere throughout shelter systems around the world, LB just can't keep them. Civil Service has nothing to do with keeping a talented ACO. If we are " wasting your time" then quit reading this blog. This nameless person will waste all kinds of your time. Let it go and move on. He is gone, quit crying.

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moorescoop — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:14:43 -0000

If there is anyone interested in filing a complaint for a potential Grand jury investigation, you should get it in soon. The deadline is coming up in a few weeks for 2007-2008. This shelter has managed to remain out of the reports for some odd reason. They had a small entry in the 2000-2001 report, before the "partnership". This would be another way to make sure this shelter is doing what it is suppose to do. Not to mention that they could bring criminal charges up on certain people involved, including the SPCA. Public/ private partnerships are investigated by the Grand Jury.

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/jury/complaint.htm

2000-2001
LOS ANGELES COUNTY
GRAND JURY

Long Beach Animal Shelter:
The facility was built in 1952 and their operating funds come from the City of Long
Beach. They have contracts with various Veterinarians. On average they have 250
animals a day but in the spring months they usually have more. On the day of the
committee’s visit they had an animal population of 208. They euthanize 20 dogs a day.
The Inter-Peritoneal lethal injection takes approximately 15 minutes to put an animal
down.

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moorescoop — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:15:44 -0000

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moorescoop — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:23:00 -0000

Great idea about the papers Wag, this is something that will happen when it is safe. All I can say is that there will be a story told and it will not be from an anonymous source. It will be right from my big mouth. I know all about papers protecting the identity of a person, the DW had done a great job so far.

As for the Civil Grand Jury, anyone can file a complaint. The Grand Jury will decide if they want to investigate it or not. If they do, then they will publish their findings and recommendations in a yearly public report. Citizen complaints help the Civil Grand Jury decide what to investigate. They do not guarantee an investigation because I am sure they get loads of complaints and can't get to them all. The Criminal Grand Jury is different and I don't know much about how it works, but I am sure that it comes after the Civil Grand Jury for some.

I hope the coalition is planning legal action. It is very important that this does not happen to anyone or any animal again. No one should ever be allowed to get away with this for so long, not even the SPCA. I know this type of stuff goes on in shelters everywhere, but this is a different situation. Understanding how and why this "partnership" failed will be shocking to many. It only takes a few people at the top of each organization to set the whole place up for failure. What a shame! Selfish isn't it?

Please continue posting your interesting and enlightening information for myself and the public to learn from. After all, that’s why we are here today.

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moorescoop — Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:05:10 -0000

White Power in the village! There is an unusual clustering of some Southern California Caucasian’s to inform you about. The SCC’s have very little skin pigment and they are hard to come by in Los Angeles County. They are not usually allowed to cluster in packs this size, but they have swarmed and taken over a small area inside El Dorado Park. We call it “The Village”. The majority of “The Village” is filled with people who had 2 white parents; supervision will most likely have 2 white parents. This rare large pack of SCC’s have been protected and preserved by 2 different clustering behavioral patterns;

1) Limited Minority Hiring System, LMHS for short.

LMHS is always successful if “The Village” uses 1 basic hiring equation;

1 white applicant + 1 minority applicant = 1 white employee

2) Minority-Minority Hiring System, MMHS for short.

MMHS does not involve a mathematical equation. It is the waste product of LMHS. Here is how it works.

The rejected applicant from the LMHS applies somewhere else and is hired by a minority, who actually was a reject of the LMHS at one time.

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moorescoop — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:47:11 -0000

Maybe the same losers would not be on the list if the City or the Shelter would take an active role in recruiting officers. They can give them some other reasons to choose to work at LB, besides the friendly working environment and the wonderful reputation of the facility. Perhaps you didn't read the posts in the new article?
Here is an interesting fact - I only saw 1 job bulletin for Long Beach in many years of working at a shelter in the area. I was stupid enough to respond to it. I should have looked at the obvious and realized that this city was not actively recruiting for a reason.

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moorescoop — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 01:14:59 -0000

The old RVT left in June 2005. Civil Service did not get notified that this position needed to be filled until April 06. Almost 1 year later. They went for over a year without an RVT . Do you think they were holding the position for someone or did someone just forget to notify Civil Service?

Sometimes, I forget to do the dishes for a year.

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moorescoop — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:03:57 -0000

I am confident that the issues regarding the animals at the shelter will change for the better. All the comments posted to this blog have been the key to exposing what is really going on. I mean all of them, even the cruel and slanderous posts. It really is a shame exposing this led to a few "resignations". Some do not get that option and are fired over malicious, false accusations that are damaging. Standing up against the system can uncover some other things.

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moorescoop — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 01:09:32 -0000

"The facts", that a good one. Let's blame everything on civil service. The fact is that no one wants to work for LB animal control. The fact is that "the list" is crappy because the "qualified" people out there are unaware LB is even in that building. The fact is that most of the LB officers hired within the past few years have never worked for a shelter before. The fact is that there were only a few applicants for the RVT position in 2006. The fact is that LB was operating illegally and inhumanely and they have publically admitted to it. The fact is that SPCA allowed this to occur in their building and no one cares.The fact is that #432 is full of non-factual drama. I can go on with the facts, but they are public knowledge now.

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moorescoop — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:00:00 -0000

I know many wanted to come to be a Vet at AC but lacked the degree. Where is that bulletin? Out of the 9 ACO's hired the past few years, 8 ACO's had no previous ACO experience: VM, BM, CM, HP, EG, BR, Curtis and Bobbi. LD was the only ACO was hired with experience. Of course there have been more hired the past few months. How many of the 8 worked in a shelter before? 1 of them? 3 or 4 of them had never worked with animals before, so I don't know how they got in. Call it negative; stirring the pot or whatever you want, it took this to "have some working together". Everyone is sick of bullsh** excuses for why the shelter is a mess. Issues are being resolved because of standing up to people like you with lame excuses and outdated Midol.

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moorescoop — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 04:13:54 -0000

Proper recruitment for openings with AC obviously has been a long time problem. Job bulletins have not been distributed outside the LB area, including animal shelters. Maybe CS was not informed by AC to send job bulletins to other animal shelters. The manager at the LB shelter did not actively get involved in recruiting at the most important and most commonly recruited places to find qualified applicants. Most animal shelters in the area are prompt to send job bulletins to all area shelters. After all, recruiting means going to them.

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moorescoop — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:44:57 -0000

No David, AC job bulletins were not mailed to EVERY shelter. I can tell you that for many years, they were not mailed to the biggest AC agencies in the area. The LA County and LA City Shelters were left out in the recruitment. Sloppy and selective recruitment procedures are obvious to everyone who is familiar with AC's past hiring history. They have a long history of a high turnover and are always short staffed. AC is also known for employing unqualified personnel due to desperation.

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moorescoop — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:20:22 -0000

You must of had access to private personnel files. As for that cute little saying, it is better left on myspace.

It is well known that the words from management are not to be trusted.

*********** And what is your name? are you unemployed? Depressed?**********

initial source
(employed and happy all the time)

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moorescoop — Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:07:23 -0000

You have no clue Judy. I realize that job "bullitins" are not kept in private files. I don't think job bulletins are kept there either. This "non productive banner" will result in saving many animals from neglect and unnecessary euthanasia. If you think all this is non productive, then concentrate on spreading the word on spay and neuter somewhere else. There is no such thing as the "LA shelter". If you work for one of the LA city shelters, then you must be close friends with the person that has received and posted the job bulletins for many years. Well, I happen to be.
Sorry, don't know a "Judy".

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moorescoop — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:29:48 -0000

#449, you are definitely my daddy now!!! I’m not sure if the others involved will embrace your “Daddy Status” like I have.

This “Lease Agreement” can now be viewed on the Sheltertrak website. The “Partnership Agreement” has been excluded or is missing. It was public record a year or so ago, but it has miraculously disappeared. I have found most of the other SPCA partnership agreements/contracts on their very own website with very little effort.

I will try and fill in the blanks as you have requested:

1. Soooooo, my question to initial source is: when was LBAC notified by the SpcaLA that they were not their Vet and LBAC needed a premis license? OCTOBER 3th 2007
2. Mr. Moore put LBAC in Default for Breach of contract with SpcaLA. How about some dates to fill in the blanks, then let’s figure out how long it took the City to correct it after media caught wind?

Ok, the first story came out April 3rd 2008, but you should also know that there were several other individuals notified before the media, including the SPCA.

The 3 strikes were gone before the media was involved, but here you go:

October 3rd 2007 - April 3rd 2008 – 6 months from the first notification until the media caught wind.

The Premise was effective on 4/8/08 for some odd reason. The official premise license was not posted until the end of May. The premise vet was absent, not involved or invisible for about 6 weeks after the premise was “issued”. – Morally, ethically and legally – no vet for over a month after the media caught wind.

I can ask Mario to crunch some more numbers, but 7 ½ months is about 6 ½ months too long. Besides, the Medical Board issued a premise for a facility before they even processed the application or even received it for that matter. I am pretty sure the premise license is only valid if the premise vet is on the premise.

But wait, why should Long Beach have to Vacate? Didn’t SPCA breach the contract on October 3rd 2007?

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moorescoop — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:46:33 -0000

This lease has been violated so many times by the SPCA. They have knowingly breached several sections of this agreement and I am sure they know it. There is only one way to get action on a potential violation in this agreement and both parties have blatantly decided to ignore it. According to the agreement, any notice/claim/violation has to be given in writing at the time it occurred in order for anything in this document to be executed. LB would never attempt to initiate something like that due to retaliation by the SPCA. The SPCA would never do it because they are in major violation of this lease and want to continue to do so. Here is an obvious example of several violations in this lease regarding the newly constructed Cat Cottage. The construction was managed and designed by the SPCA, they refused to finish it and they still haven’t improved it. The stray cats have been subjected to inhumane conditions for over a year.

Project approval letter

“The SPCA-LA will manage the design and construction phases of the project”

Improvements

SPCA LA shall construct improvements to the property……

Liens

SPCLA shall keep the property free of any mechanic’s or material man’s liens for any work done, labor performed or material furnished by or for SPCALA relating to the property.

Maintenance

SPCALA shall, at its cost and satisfaction of the city, maintain the property (including the common areas) in good condition, substantial repair in a safe, clean sanitary condition and in compliance with applicable laws.

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moorescoop — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:39:48 -0000

This story is on the house because the reward is far greater than a few bucks. I would never want to do it again, but if I had to, I would not take money to tell it.

Question of the Day:

If you witness a man choking at a restaurant and you did nothing to help, would you feel guilty? What if you were the only qualified person to help him and you didn't, would you be guilty?

Here is a strange description of the village:

City of Long Beach Website:

In 2001, the Bureau of Animal Control relocated to a new state-of-the-art companion animal care and control village. Thanks to a unique partnership agreement between the City of Long Beach and the spcaLA

SpcaLA Website:

Built in 2001, spcaLA's P.D. Pitchford Companion Animal Village and Education Center is the result of a unique collaborative effort between a public and private entity.

"A unique partnership agreement" and "a unique collaborative effort"

What is the difference? I think the answer to this will help us understand the problem. SpcaLA has this agreement/effort and the public has not been able to view it. Secrets are kept to hide the truth.

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moorescoop — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:02:20 -0000

I think you meant “the real issues of Spca LA’s Pitchford Animal Companion Village”? Right? Animal neglect and abuse stories are newsworthy and will always attract readers. Take a look at how this story was presented. I think it would be hard to write an article and attract readers. This task would be like KFC having a booth at a vegetarian conference.

Question of the Day:

Who did it?

Your 5 year old son told you that one of the neighbors touched him inappropriately. You only have 2 neighbors, Michael Jackson and a paralyzed man in a bubble with no arms. Which neighbor would you initially think did it? Now, which neighbor would the vast majority of the world think did it?

Bubble Boy is protected and never investigated.

Michael has every news station out in front of his house. The cameras remain in front of his house even after he provided a valid alibi. He was in a coma.

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moorescoop — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:09:30 -0000

It makes no sense at all for the LB staff to volunteer off time to help the shelter animals. They feel guilty if they don’t, because the animal may die. They are already overworked, this will just add to the stress. It's a shame that they have to do this when there are plenty of other alternatives. The village is obligated to transport the wildlife to where they need to go, PERIOD!! The SPCA should take over the transport of the wildlife; they have the volunteers and the resources. If that is out of the question, then maybe they should consider modifying the information about the village.

Thanks to a unique partnership agreement between the City of Long Beach and the spcaLA, the two agencies now jointly deliver innovative and revolutionary care to the animals that enter the Village.Residents of Long Beach and contract cities also benefit from more efficient animal control services.

If the ducks were healthy mallards, they’re federally protected and it is against the law to kill them. On the other hand, it is cruel keep them at the shelter for a long period of time while awaiting transport.

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moorescoop — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 20:41:34 -0000

Wag, Wag, Wag.... you crack up. I guess I owe you a laugh.

The accounting for rehabilitated wildlife can easily be done on your fingers. The armless bubble boy can raise his hands and give you an accurate count for the records....... Ok, I just laughed, now you owe me. Honestly, the numbers are probably too embarrassing that the "secret and hide the truth" maneuver was the better choice. OK, LB does 1 protocol in common with the SPCA, I was wrong.

The statistics are limited and inaccurate for 3 reasons:

1) A computer program that was donated by The Flintstones
2) No one has ever asked for detailed or accurate statistics
3) SpcaLA force field (Bubble Boy) - why no one has asked

Where did you read that "engaged in saving wildlife" crap? Was that on a SPCA donation form or something? You must of been mistaken Wag, put on your glasses and read it again. It actually says, “LBAC is engaged in killing wildlife and the SpcaLA is engaged in watching".

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moorescoop — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:29:54 -0000

Wag, you’re a smart dog and I want to make you smarter. As far as I know, I am the only one using this name. Sorry for the confusion, but did not say that the wildlife was actually cared for and transported safely, I said that the village is obligated to do it, but they didn't. I was completely serious when I wrote that post. That was a serious, factual and an important post.

Now #467 is a comical, factual and directly related #465 post. Ok Wag, since I confused you, I'm going to give you a treat. Yes, the majority of the wildlife did not make it out alive. If I had to guess, 1 out of 50 remained wildlife. Just a guess Wag, but I estimated kind of low. High estimate would be 1 out of 75-100 remained wildlife. Both are bad so I guess it does not matter. You don't actually think they are killing everything now, do you? I seriously doubt SPCA is helping out with the transport. Maybe they will offer to help when they find out they can get donations for it.

I'm going start a list of unanswered questions also. I will start it with this:

Why was the LB manager the only one held responsible for all of this?

Both sides were working together at the same shelter and both sides were aware of everything. The public did not worry about this shelter because they were confident that Spca would step in and take care of any issues if they came up. But they didn't. I wonder if this the reason they did not step in and do the right thing for the wildlife?

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moorescoop — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:41:26 -0000

To: @@@@@@@@@

Does that mean "Judy" is falsey accusing the innocent?

No worries, what comes around goes around.

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moorescoop — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:47:41 -0000

Does this sound like an organization that would ignore or dismiss what happens in their own building? You be the judge.

* SPCA-LA President Madeline Bernstein said:

"It's so important how we treat our animals, and this village......... You see a philosophy that ever animal deserve respect and food and medical care regardless of why they're here in the first place. You will also see that stray animals that are not yet ready for adoption are given the same creature comforts as animals that are in the adoption areas. There are no second class citizens at this facility..."

* Mission Statement
spcaLA is dedicated to the prevention of cruelty to animals through Education, Law Enforcement and Intervention.

* spcaLA believes that animals, as living creatures, have value beyond economic measurement, and are entitled to legal, moral and ethical consideration and protection.

7 years is a long time to ignore this. When will the intervention take place? A few months ago would of been the obvious time, but you didn't.

Did you offer legal, moral or ethical consideration and protection to the wildlife that have died in your shelter? Maybe they are the second class citizens at the facility. That would make the unselected adoptable animals third class citizens, Right? We also need to classify the stray cats.

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moorescoop — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:50:34 -0000

I have volunteered to help all the animals in a bigger way than anybody will ever have the balls to do. This is the only way to make sure policies are adopted at the shelter to protect the animals for a long time. You may think it is petty and bitchey, I don’t blame you. This is so much more productive for the cause right now than doing a load of laundry or cleaning a cage. I agree with Judy, there have been several baby ducks released in El Dorado Park. Policies need to be set so these little ducks do not sit for a long time in the shelter waiting to be released. Some of these babies have died or had to be euthanized because they were not released in time.

Ok, now that we all know that less than 1% of the wildlife was released in El Dorado Park, we can all go to the shelter a wash a load of laundry. The majority of the other baby birds that come into the shelter will have a clean towel to lie on before they die. If pigeons were legally protected like the mallards then they would be released too. I have respect for all foster parents because it is hard work. Change needs to be made for the rest of the animals that come through that facility because they deserve the same chance that you have given to your fosters. Animals should not have to die because they are brought into the shelter; we are there to protect them. That is so wrong!!

Wonderful changes have already been made but we can't stop until all the wildlife is taken care of. You don’t realize right now, but we are working together. There should be more people like you involved and you can thank the few of us for making that happen.

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moorescoop — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:20:06 -0000

The Bubble Boy has been in control.

The Bubble Boy is the dumb-ass.

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moorescoop — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:38:40 -0000

Sorry, the power is in the bubble. He is faithful to her. Wm was not so lucky. I do know that he can't stand the other one. Believe it or not, this is a direct result of the lack of diversity in the workplace. If you have narrow minded, selfish and bitchy crackers working together, problems will arise.

I guarantee there will be more problems as long as the bubble is present. Someone should get a hold of the partnership agreement and see what the hell it says.

The private investigator's report should be out soon. That would be good reading material, too bad we can't read it. If the City Manager does his job, you might get your wish.

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moorescoop — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:06:38 -0000

#485 - My neighbors beat their kids, why can't I do it"?

#465 - Don't get your hopes up, remember the “secret and hide the truth” maneuver.

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moorescoop — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:04:55 -0000

We can all speculate and accuse in order to make changes. That is usually the only way to get action.

So far, LB has publically taken the blame and they are making changes.

So far, SpcaLA is not involved and they have been quiet in the media.

I think:

The partnership agreement will hold the SpcaLA responsible in some way shape or form and here's why:

• It ‘s not made public anymore
• It ‘s not posted at the shelter or offered to the employees
• The SpcaLA describes the relationship as an “effort”.
• Most other public/private agreements are posted online

We can enter in phase 50 million, but it will be worthless without this document. I realize that very few people will agree or attempt to look into it. I hope the right person will look outside the bubble and help. LB can make all the changes in world, but without structure and accountability it’s a waste of time.

SpcaLA, prove me wrong and post this agreement. It should be public knowledge and the employees have the right to know the structure of the shelter. I am coming to the conclusion that LB is not the only one responsible for the confusion and mismanagement of the shelter.

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moorescoop — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:42:28 -0000

Correction #490, the comments were written by 1 person.

I don't care what you think or write, it proves that you are ignorant

My comments are for individuals that matter and you are not one of them.

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:24:41 -0000

Well put Wag, thanks for the support.

This could not have been done without the DW and the following:

* The slanderous comments from shelter management
* The help from a select few (you know who you are)
* The involvement of a group of people that have had it in for the shelter for awhile

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moorescoop — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:18:00 -0000

And ruin everything that has been done and trying to be done? Sorry, the shelter animals are not protected if I give it up now. I am sure some know who I am and some think they know. Ask around or just ask yourself one question, "Out of all the shelter employees, which one would everyone want to talk to?"

One small part of the big problem has been addressed, now comes the hard part. The influential spouse in a bubble. The quiet innocent one that has been the biggest problem for the shelter animals. Believe it or not, more animals were killed because of them than animal control. I can prove it.

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moorescoop — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:57:55 -0000

To all the Crack Flies and Sh*tflies:
I have a new habitat for you to check out. I has great amenities and it's all inclusive.

Fly and Maggot Habitat

* The refrigeration room that stores the dead animals was not working for almost a month.

* The temperature outside the room was cooler than inside the room.

* The mechanism was actually blowing out hot air instead of cold air and was heating the room and the carcasses to a perfect temperature. These are perfect conditions to help assist and speed up the rotting time. These are also perfect conditions for flies, maggots and bacteria.

*Several members of management were routinely informed of this horrible condition. SPCA is responsible for facility maintenance and they were “calling” someone for a month.

*Employees were so grossed out, that they had to hold their breath when they entered the cooler to be able to put an animal inside.

*The normal behavior while exiting the room was to run really fast and as far as you can while choking and gagging.

*Already decomposing and pungent animals were put in the room after being scraped and shoveled off the road from the Animal Control Officers.

*Flies were attracted to the decomposing, foul smelling animal carcasses. Flies were constantly inside and around the euthanasia room. Most of the flies would land on employees after snacking on the maggot ridden, rotting flesh.

*Maggots were inside the refrigerator crawling all over the dead animals. They were crawling on the floor and climbing up the walls throughout the whole walk in cooler.

*The Maggots were constantly escaping the unit from a gap underneath the heavy metal doors. They would make their way inside the euthanasia room and then crawl up the walls and cabinets.

*The disgusting accumulation of maggots would have to be hosed out of the euthanasia room on a daily basis.

*Anyone that was inside the euthanasia room or near the unit would have a lingering nauseating smell on their clothes and hair. This smell stayed with this person all day long.

*Everyone, including management, would comment on the unbearable smell of an employee that was fortunate enough to work near that place.

*The doors to the euthanasia room had to be propped open all day to prevent the staff from throwing up. This would bring a constant supply of flies buzzing around inside the euthanasia room.

*The animal carcasses were still being picked up weekly but the juices that had drained everywhere were still present. There were animals that were not picked up for the whole month because they were on hold for some reason.

*On last week of this nightmare, the cooler doors would be left open to release the heat and smell from inside the cooler. The air was cooler outside anyway. This would invite more flies and was a hazard to the wildlife on and around the facility.

*SPCA was taking so long because of the cost of repairing the unit, so they told us that they were “calling around”. Long Beach finally took action and took care of it in 2 days, almost 1 month after it went out.

*SPCA and Long Beach staff members refused to come inside the euthanasia room because of the smell.

*The poor man that came out to repair the unit was horrified and disgusted by the inexcusable conditions he had to work in. That will probably be the worse job he will every do in his life.

*The animals that were in the cooler for the whole month were no longer in any condition to do anything with, so they were disposed of. Most of them had begun to liquefy into this nasty gelatinous goo inside the bag.

*The purpose of the freezer is to slow down the decomposition and in turn, reduce the smell and minimize unsanitary conditions of the carcasses until pick up. It was also used as a Fly and Maggot Habitat.

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moorescoop — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:33:12 -0000

Don't worry Wag, Long Beach will not ignore the conditions. The only reason they have been able to get away with this is because the SPCA. LB's own governement refused to look into it because of them. There's some more slime to get rid of and as long as they are there, the animals have no chance.

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moorescoop — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:39:43 -0000

The fact is that there has to be a place for homeless, unwanted, sick, injured and abused animals to go. You can promote spay and neuter until your blue, but a shelter will always needed. There has to be a safe place for these animals to go. This is the fact and it will not change for a very long time. An animal shelter is suppose to help, not hurt. Take care of the animals we have and implement a free spay and neuter program in conjunction. There's your answer..... There's just one hitch, organization and understanding plays a big role. This shelter lack these 2 key things.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:43:33 -0000

I know who will throw the party! Monster trucks can do it.

Re: WHY I LEFT LONG BEACH ANIMAL CONTROL

moorescoop — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:46:21 -0000

Nicole... this is why the staff will not talk to you.

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moorescoop — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:43:28 -0000

Someone else was terminated....

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:22:14 -0000

........and walk out of the movie halfway into it ?

The rest of the story might not be important to you, so shut your hole so others can enjoy.

I'm curious to see what NA has up their sleeve. A role not originally planned in all this, but it sure will be fun to watch.

P.S - Missed you!

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moorescoop — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:46:06 -0000

Wag, you are not going to be able to read the report, you will only get the City Managers report of that report. You can only imagine how that will be written.

Now...... if the city does not take the investigators recommendations seriously, you better believe that will piss the investigator off.

Sorry to burst your bubble but this is not the "full" investigation. They have not even done that yet. Are you surprised?

JK's " I Dunno's" are probably because he dunno yet. What he will get is filtered information anyway, kinda like the google orders. Sound like someone you know? The government is not the only one that pulls fraudulent crap like that.

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moorescoop — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:16:29 -0000

With your help Wag, thanks go out to you too.

It may appear that I am the only one standing, but there are plenty of others reading this. They are afraid to post or help out, I really don't blame them. That is is the one of the real issues right now.

Stay here with me and you may get the "soild" info that you want. I can tell you that management will not give it to you. The DW is your only hope.

Please continue harrassing and demanding information from Long Beach. It will help the animals and the cause, even if you are not given the answers that you want. The answers that we all want.

I want ":solid" info from the SPCA. You think I'll get it?

Re: POOP SCOOP | The District Weekly

moorescoop — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:46:44 -0000

It has got to be a sick joke???????? If not, how can he not know. It was all over the papers.

Seventy-three cats had already been euthanized already because the Hills had told Animal Control that they knew the cats were ill and didn't want them to suffer.

"They wanted to see them humanely put down," Quigley said.

The cats were thin and dehydrated, with various stages of respiratory diseases and skin diseases that would have required extensive medical care.

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moorescoop — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:23:10 -0000

How can someone with a mental illness make a sane decision?

This would be the same as giving an alcoholic a bottle of booze for Christmas.

The cats were not properly diagnosed AND they were considered "suffering" by some people that are not legally permitted to make that decision.

The cats were said to be "suffering" by the insane owners and MQ.

Who is the only one qualified to make that decision?

A Vet would be the answer and the shelter did not have one. Don't think for a minute that AC sent all those cats to the vet for evaluation and diagnoses before they killed them.

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moorescoop — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:37:04 -0000

The investigators report is done and it is in the city's hands now.

#559 describes the stressful and busy job of an ACO. These people have a hard job and rarely get the respect that they deserve. LB Animal Control covers a large area, the ACO's are overworked and have to rush through their calls because there are not enough of them.

The Answer:
* Increase the number of qualified ACO's at the shelter
* Train them properly
* Treat them with respect so they stay