DISQUS

The investigators report is done and it is in the city's hands now.

#559 describes the stressful and busy job of an ACO. These people have a hard job and rarely get the respect that they deserve. LB Animal Control covers a large area, the ACO's are overworked and have to rush through their calls because there are not enough of them.

The Answer:
* Increase the number of qualified ACO's at the shelter
* Train them properly
* Treat them with respect so they stay

How can someone with a mental illness make a sane decision?

This would be the same as giving an alcoholic a bottle of booze for Christmas.

The cats were not properly diagnosed AND they were considered "suffering" by some people that are not legally permitted to make that decision.

The cats were said to be "suffering" by the insane owners and MQ.

Who is the only one qualified to make that decision?

A Vet would be the answer and the shelter did not have one. Don't think for a minute that AC sent all those cats to the vet for evaluation and diagnoses before they killed them.

It has got to be a sick joke???????? If not, how can he not know. It was all over the papers.


Seventy-three cats had already been euthanized already because the Hills had told Animal Control that they knew the cats were ill and didn't want them to suffer.

"They wanted to see them humanely put down," Quigley said.

The cats were thin and dehydrated, with various stages of respiratory diseases and skin diseases that would have required extensive medical care.

With your help Wag, thanks go out to you too.

It may appear that I am the only one standing, but there are plenty of others reading this. They are afraid to post or help out, I really don't blame them. That is is the one of the real issues right now.

Stay here with me and you may get the "soild" info that you want. I can tell you that management will not give it to you. The DW is your only hope.

Please continue harrassing and demanding information from Long Beach. It will help the animals and the cause, even if you are not given the answers that you want. The answers that we all want.

I want ":solid" info from the SPCA. You think I'll get it?

Wag, you are not going to be able to read the report, you will only get the City Managers report of that report. You can only imagine how that will be written.

Now...... if the city does not take the investigators recommendations seriously, you better believe that will piss the investigator off.

Sorry to burst your bubble but this is not the "full" investigation. They have not even done that yet. Are you surprised?

JK's " I Dunno's" are probably because he dunno yet. What he will get is filtered information anyway, kinda like the google orders. Sound like someone you know? The government is not the only one that pulls fraudulent crap like that.

........and walk out of the movie halfway into it ?

The rest of the story might not be important to you, so shut your hole so others can enjoy.

I'm curious to see what NA has up their sleeve. A role not originally planned in all this, but it sure will be fun to watch.

P.S - Missed you!

Someone else was terminated....

Nicole... this is why the staff will not talk to you.

I know who will throw the party! Monster trucks can do it.

The fact is that there has to be a place for homeless, unwanted, sick, injured and abused animals to go. You can promote spay and neuter until your blue, but a shelter will always needed. There has to be a safe place for these animals to go. This is the fact and it will not change for a very long time. An animal shelter is suppose to help, not hurt. Take care of the animals we have and implement a free spay and neuter program in conjunction. There's your answer..... There's just one hitch, organization and understanding plays a big role. This shelter lack these 2 key things.

Don't worry Wag, Long Beach will not ignore the conditions. The only reason they have been able to get away with this is because the SPCA. LB's own governement refused to look into it because of them. There's some more slime to get rid of and as long as they are there, the animals have no chance.

To all the Crack Flies and Sh*tflies:
I have a new habitat for you to check out. I has great amenities and it's all inclusive.


Fly and Maggot Habitat

* The refrigeration room that stores the dead animals was not working for almost a month.

* The temperature outside the room was cooler than inside the room.

* The mechanism was actually blowing out hot air instead of cold air and was heating the room and the carcasses to a perfect temperature. These are perfect conditions to help assist and speed up the rotting time. These are also perfect conditions for flies, maggots and bacteria.

*Several members of management were routinely informed of this horrible condition. SPCA is responsible for facility maintenance and they were “calling” someone for a month.

*Employees were so grossed out, that they had to hold their breath when they entered the cooler to be able to put an animal inside.

*The normal behavior while exiting the room was to run really fast and as far as you can while choking and gagging.

*Already decomposing and pungent animals were put in the room after being scraped and shoveled off the road from the Animal Control Officers.

*Flies were attracted to the decomposing, foul smelling animal carcasses. Flies were constantly inside and around the euthanasia room. Most of the flies would land on employees after snacking on the maggot ridden, rotting flesh.

*Maggots were inside the refrigerator crawling all over the dead animals. They were crawling on the floor and climbing up the walls throughout the whole walk in cooler.

*The Maggots were constantly escaping the unit from a gap underneath the heavy metal doors. They would make their way inside the euthanasia room and then crawl up the walls and cabinets.

*The disgusting accumulation of maggots would have to be hosed out of the euthanasia room on a daily basis.

*Anyone that was inside the euthanasia room or near the unit would have a lingering nauseating smell on their clothes and hair. This smell stayed with this person all day long.

*Everyone, including management, would comment on the unbearable smell of an employee that was fortunate enough to work near that place.

*The doors to the euthanasia room had to be propped open all day to prevent the staff from throwing up. This would bring a constant supply of flies buzzing around inside the euthanasia room.

*The animal carcasses were still being picked up weekly but the juices that had drained everywhere were still present. There were animals that were not picked up for the whole month because they were on hold for some reason.

*On last week of this nightmare, the cooler doors would be left open to release the heat and smell from inside the cooler. The air was cooler outside anyway. This would invite more flies and was a hazard to the wildlife on and around the facility.

*SPCA was taking so long because of the cost of repairing the unit, so they told us that they were “calling around”. Long Beach finally took action and took care of it in 2 days, almost 1 month after it went out.

*SPCA and Long Beach staff members refused to come inside the euthanasia room because of the smell.

*The poor man that came out to repair the unit was horrified and disgusted by the inexcusable conditions he had to work in. That will probably be the worse job he will every do in his life.

*The animals that were in the cooler for the whole month were no longer in any condition to do anything with, so they were disposed of. Most of them had begun to liquefy into this nasty gelatinous goo inside the bag.

*The purpose of the freezer is to slow down the decomposition and in turn, reduce the smell and minimize unsanitary conditions of the carcasses until pick up. It was also used as a Fly and Maggot Habitat.

And ruin everything that has been done and trying to be done? Sorry, the shelter animals are not protected if I give it up now. I am sure some know who I am and some think they know. Ask around or just ask yourself one question, "Out of all the shelter employees, which one would everyone want to talk to?"

One small part of the big problem has been addressed, now comes the hard part. The influential spouse in a bubble. The quiet innocent one that has been the biggest problem for the shelter animals. Believe it or not, more animals were killed because of them than animal control. I can prove it.

Well put Wag, thanks for the support.

This could not have been done without the DW and the following:

* The slanderous comments from shelter management
* The help from a select few (you know who you are)
* The involvement of a group of people that have had it in for the shelter for awhile

Correction #490, the comments were written by 1 person.

I don't care what you think or write, it proves that you are ignorant

My comments are for individuals that matter and you are not one of them.

We can all speculate and accuse in order to make changes. That is usually the only way to get action.

So far, LB has publically taken the blame and they are making changes.

So far, SpcaLA is not involved and they have been quiet in the media.

I think:

The partnership agreement will hold the SpcaLA responsible in some way shape or form and here's why:

• It ‘s not made public anymore
• It ‘s not posted at the shelter or offered to the employees
• The SpcaLA describes the relationship as an “effort”.
• Most other public/private agreements are posted online

We can enter in phase 50 million, but it will be worthless without this document. I realize that very few people will agree or attempt to look into it. I hope the right person will look outside the bubble and help. LB can make all the changes in world, but without structure and accountability it’s a waste of time.

SpcaLA, prove me wrong and post this agreement. It should be public knowledge and the employees have the right to know the structure of the shelter. I am coming to the conclusion that LB is not the only one responsible for the confusion and mismanagement of the shelter.

#485 - My neighbors beat their kids, why can't I do it"?

#465 - Don't get your hopes up, remember the “secret and hide the truth” maneuver.

Sorry, the power is in the bubble. He is faithful to her. Wm was not so lucky. I do know that he can't stand the other one. Believe it or not, this is a direct result of the lack of diversity in the workplace. If you have narrow minded, selfish and bitchy crackers working together, problems will arise.

I guarantee there will be more problems as long as the bubble is present. Someone should get a hold of the partnership agreement and see what the hell it says.

The private investigator's report should be out soon. That would be good reading material, too bad we can't read it. If the City Manager does his job, you might get your wish.

The Bubble Boy has been in control.

The Bubble Boy is the dumb-ass.

I have volunteered to help all the animals in a bigger way than anybody will ever have the balls to do. This is the only way to make sure policies are adopted at the shelter to protect the animals for a long time. You may think it is petty and bitchey, I don’t blame you. This is so much more productive for the cause right now than doing a load of laundry or cleaning a cage. I agree with Judy, there have been several baby ducks released in El Dorado Park. Policies need to be set so these little ducks do not sit for a long time in the shelter waiting to be released. Some of these babies have died or had to be euthanized because they were not released in time.

Ok, now that we all know that less than 1% of the wildlife was released in El Dorado Park, we can all go to the shelter a wash a load of laundry. The majority of the other baby birds that come into the shelter will have a clean towel to lie on before they die. If pigeons were legally protected like the mallards then they would be released too. I have respect for all foster parents because it is hard work. Change needs to be made for the rest of the animals that come through that facility because they deserve the same chance that you have given to your fosters. Animals should not have to die because they are brought into the shelter; we are there to protect them. That is so wrong!!

Wonderful changes have already been made but we can't stop until all the wildlife is taken care of. You don’t realize right now, but we are working together. There should be more people like you involved and you can thank the few of us for making that happen.

Does this sound like an organization that would ignore or dismiss what happens in their own building? You be the judge.


* SPCA-LA President Madeline Bernstein said:

"It's so important how we treat our animals, and this village......... You see a philosophy that ever animal deserve respect and food and medical care regardless of why they're here in the first place. You will also see that stray animals that are not yet ready for adoption are given the same creature comforts as animals that are in the adoption areas. There are no second class citizens at this facility..."

* Mission Statement
spcaLA is dedicated to the prevention of cruelty to animals through Education, Law Enforcement and Intervention.

* spcaLA believes that animals, as living creatures, have value beyond economic measurement, and are entitled to legal, moral and ethical consideration and protection.



7 years is a long time to ignore this. When will the intervention take place? A few months ago would of been the obvious time, but you didn't.

Did you offer legal, moral or ethical consideration and protection to the wildlife that have died in your shelter? Maybe they are the second class citizens at the facility. That would make the unselected adoptable animals third class citizens, Right? We also need to classify the stray cats.

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Does that mean "Judy" is falsey accusing the innocent?

No worries, what comes around goes around.

Wag, you’re a smart dog and I want to make you smarter. As far as I know, I am the only one using this name. Sorry for the confusion, but did not say that the wildlife was actually cared for and transported safely, I said that the village is obligated to do it, but they didn't. I was completely serious when I wrote that post. That was a serious, factual and an important post.

Now #467 is a comical, factual and directly related #465 post. Ok Wag, since I confused you, I'm going to give you a treat. Yes, the majority of the wildlife did not make it out alive. If I had to guess, 1 out of 50 remained wildlife. Just a guess Wag, but I estimated kind of low. High estimate would be 1 out of 75-100 remained wildlife. Both are bad so I guess it does not matter. You don't actually think they are killing everything now, do you? I seriously doubt SPCA is helping out with the transport. Maybe they will offer to help when they find out they can get donations for it.

I'm going start a list of unanswered questions also. I will start it with this:

Why was the LB manager the only one held responsible for all of this?

Both sides were working together at the same shelter and both sides were aware of everything. The public did not worry about this shelter because they were confident that Spca would step in and take care of any issues if they came up. But they didn't. I wonder if this the reason they did not step in and do the right thing for the wildlife?

Wag, Wag, Wag.... you crack up. I guess I owe you a laugh.

The accounting for rehabilitated wildlife can easily be done on your fingers. The armless bubble boy can raise his hands and give you an accurate count for the records....... Ok, I just laughed, now you owe me. Honestly, the numbers are probably too embarrassing that the "secret and hide the truth" maneuver was the better choice. OK, LB does 1 protocol in common with the SPCA, I was wrong.

The statistics are limited and inaccurate for 3 reasons:

1) A computer program that was donated by The Flintstones
2) No one has ever asked for detailed or accurate statistics
3) SpcaLA force field (Bubble Boy) - why no one has asked

Where did you read that "engaged in saving wildlife" crap? Was that on a SPCA donation form or something? You must of been mistaken Wag, put on your glasses and read it again. It actually says, “LBAC is engaged in killing wildlife and the SpcaLA is engaged in watching".

It makes no sense at all for the LB staff to volunteer off time to help the shelter animals. They feel guilty if they don’t, because the animal may die. They are already overworked, this will just add to the stress. It's a shame that they have to do this when there are plenty of other alternatives. The village is obligated to transport the wildlife to where they need to go, PERIOD!! The SPCA should take over the transport of the wildlife; they have the volunteers and the resources. If that is out of the question, then maybe they should consider modifying the information about the village.

Thanks to a unique partnership agreement between the City of Long Beach and the spcaLA, the two agencies now jointly deliver innovative and revolutionary care to the animals that enter the Village.Residents of Long Beach and contract cities also benefit from more efficient animal control services.

If the ducks were healthy mallards, they’re federally protected and it is against the law to kill them. On the other hand, it is cruel keep them at the shelter for a long period of time while awaiting transport.