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11 months ago
in Latham: Congressional Postville Visit Will Offer Firsthand Glimpse into National Immigration Debate on The Iowa Independent
If we enforce "our" laws, we're bad guys, and breaking up families?
Any time you do something ILLEGAL, and have children, you have to know you may be caught and jailed, and therefore separated from your family.
If a poor family sells crack to make ends meet, should we legalize crack?! No, you will most likely go to jail, and be separated from your family.
How about if I go to a party, have a few drinks, and decide to drive home?! You better believe if I get caught, I will be paying dearly for YEARS to come, and it may separate my family.
I already know the consequences.
That is why I don't break the law, and separate my family.
I don't blame the police, my local government, or my mean country.
I'm glad these laws exist to help protect my family, and everyone else's.
Any time you do something ILLEGAL, and have children, you have to know you may be caught and jailed, and therefore separated from your family.
If a poor family sells crack to make ends meet, should we legalize crack?! No, you will most likely go to jail, and be separated from your family.
How about if I go to a party, have a few drinks, and decide to drive home?! You better believe if I get caught, I will be paying dearly for YEARS to come, and it may separate my family.
I already know the consequences.
That is why I don't break the law, and separate my family.
I don't blame the police, my local government, or my mean country.
I'm glad these laws exist to help protect my family, and everyone else's.
11 months ago
in Photos: Postville Immigration Rally on The Iowa Independent
Great argument Eddy. Did you forget to actually say something?
What numbers are you asking for? You said numbers equal racism.
Your argument doesn't make any sense.
If you seriously would like to debate, there's no need to call people names. Do you have any facts, or just name-calling?
You say people of color. Are you saying all illegals are black?
Your comments are the most racist I've seen posted.
And why would you assume I'm white?!
You're the only one obsessed with race.
You keep talking about skin color.
I used it in reference to culture, country or language of origin.
Social security?
Most illegal immigrants DON'T PAY TAXES!!!
Who are YOU calling stupid?! You really don't have a clue.
AND you don't need an identity to collect welfare, Einstein.
You just need a pseudonym, and to be pregnant & illegal.
Legal citizens need tons of documentation, and even if they need it are usually denied. Illegals get "emergency medical care", no documentation needed. Free healthcare for them and their babies.
The baby then gets citizenship, and they both get welfare for as long as they like because the mother is the caregiver.
I had a job, but no health insurance when my kids were born.
I couldn't even get them immunizations, the same ones that illegals get for free. Maybe you should check your facts. United States citizens are the ones being discriminated against, by definition.
John H. Farr, maybe you should read that again.
The United States of America were formed after the Revolutionary war.
Since many of the French helped win the war, there was much debate about our national language. A vote was taken, and it was decided that English would be the language of our new nation, not French, and all of our founding documents were written in English.
The UNITED States of America thought that it was important to share ONE culture. It didn't matter where you came from, as long as you shed your identity and became American. An American speaks one common language-English, pledges allegiance to one flag, the American flag, and abides by the laws of this nation, set forth by our founding fathers. It has to do with allegiance and pride of this country, and the willingness to fight for it and to protect it.
It has absolutely nothing to do with race.
Maybe you should ask yourself if you are racist,
or maybe just anti-American?
I'm assuming you are neither, probably just not understanding what the real problem is.
You speak of compassion.
You must be wealthy or in some other way removed from the situation.
Many illegals that DO work, are kept as modern day slaves. They live in inhuman conditions (prisoners are generally treated better) held captive by scumbag landlords and employers, and given only what someone feels like giving them. They are used, and sometimes physically abused. They are not on the payroll, they are paid in cash, much like a babysitter, and no taxes are collected.
I've worked with many of them, and spoke to many of them.
The people that I knew were essentially held captive by the restaurant owner, and given slave wages.
They were nice people, but their goal was common: they all needed to find an American girl to impregnant as quickly as possible.
They would talk her into marriage, and would not be deported.
The baby would be paid for, and she would have to support him through welfare. When he got bored, he could return to his country of origin. Many already had families in other countries, that were abandoned for "a better life".
What numbers are you asking for? You said numbers equal racism.
Your argument doesn't make any sense.
If you seriously would like to debate, there's no need to call people names. Do you have any facts, or just name-calling?
You say people of color. Are you saying all illegals are black?
Your comments are the most racist I've seen posted.
And why would you assume I'm white?!
You're the only one obsessed with race.
You keep talking about skin color.
I used it in reference to culture, country or language of origin.
Social security?
Most illegal immigrants DON'T PAY TAXES!!!
Who are YOU calling stupid?! You really don't have a clue.
AND you don't need an identity to collect welfare, Einstein.
You just need a pseudonym, and to be pregnant & illegal.
Legal citizens need tons of documentation, and even if they need it are usually denied. Illegals get "emergency medical care", no documentation needed. Free healthcare for them and their babies.
The baby then gets citizenship, and they both get welfare for as long as they like because the mother is the caregiver.
I had a job, but no health insurance when my kids were born.
I couldn't even get them immunizations, the same ones that illegals get for free. Maybe you should check your facts. United States citizens are the ones being discriminated against, by definition.
John H. Farr, maybe you should read that again.
The United States of America were formed after the Revolutionary war.
Since many of the French helped win the war, there was much debate about our national language. A vote was taken, and it was decided that English would be the language of our new nation, not French, and all of our founding documents were written in English.
The UNITED States of America thought that it was important to share ONE culture. It didn't matter where you came from, as long as you shed your identity and became American. An American speaks one common language-English, pledges allegiance to one flag, the American flag, and abides by the laws of this nation, set forth by our founding fathers. It has to do with allegiance and pride of this country, and the willingness to fight for it and to protect it.
It has absolutely nothing to do with race.
Maybe you should ask yourself if you are racist,
or maybe just anti-American?
I'm assuming you are neither, probably just not understanding what the real problem is.
You speak of compassion.
You must be wealthy or in some other way removed from the situation.
Many illegals that DO work, are kept as modern day slaves. They live in inhuman conditions (prisoners are generally treated better) held captive by scumbag landlords and employers, and given only what someone feels like giving them. They are used, and sometimes physically abused. They are not on the payroll, they are paid in cash, much like a babysitter, and no taxes are collected.
I've worked with many of them, and spoke to many of them.
The people that I knew were essentially held captive by the restaurant owner, and given slave wages.
They were nice people, but their goal was common: they all needed to find an American girl to impregnant as quickly as possible.
They would talk her into marriage, and would not be deported.
The baby would be paid for, and she would have to support him through welfare. When he got bored, he could return to his country of origin. Many already had families in other countries, that were abandoned for "a better life".
11 months ago
in Both sides of immigration debate agree: employers should be held accountable on The Iowa Independent
I agree completely.
Employers should have to pay HUGE fines, and be charged criminally.
The same goes for those who rent to illegals. It's ILLEGAL!
Is it a crime to be poor, or from a different country? NO!
Is it wrong to steal from hardworking LEGAL United States citizens? YES! And it should be punishable.
Now that they've all been arrested, who pays for it?
United States citizens.
Who pays all of the court fees?
United States citizens.
Any jail time?
U.S. citizens.
Deportation, if any?
United States citizens.
How about when they don't take care of their kids, the ones that U.S.citizens paid for?
They wind up in child protective services, that we pay for.
Yes, these are the very same children that we see on the news.
The ones that we are accused of separating from their illegal parents and tearing apart families in the name of illegal immigration.
Last I checked, you're free to take your kids home with you.
Many get taken away from their illegal parents because they rape them, molest them, physically abuse them, force them to become prostitutes, and sell drugs for them!
Then WE pay for all of those court fees, jail time, if any (they never show up for court, they disappear. Good luck finding an illegal immigrant named Jose Gonzales...then they commit the same crimes again) foster care, counseling for the child, social services, schooling, healthcare, etc.
All this, while hard-working United States citizens across the country are losing their jobs and their homes. And THEIR families.
The companies should be paying for it all.
Any legal expenses incurred by their illegal employees, and ALL healthcare.
Then they should be boycotted for being Anti-American, and put out of business.
But most of all, I blame our useless, greedy, sick government.
It does not serve the people of the United States, it is enslaving all of us.
There need to be changes, there is a modern-day revolution brewing. It's only a matter of time before citizens start taking things into their own hands. Citizens need to become more educated about their government and the atrocities being committed. We are losing our country and we need to fight for it through government legislation, and getting involved. It's only a matter of time before it escalates into violence, out of sheer frustration of the American people.
Citizens need to get involved NOW.
Employers should have to pay HUGE fines, and be charged criminally.
The same goes for those who rent to illegals. It's ILLEGAL!
Is it a crime to be poor, or from a different country? NO!
Is it wrong to steal from hardworking LEGAL United States citizens? YES! And it should be punishable.
Now that they've all been arrested, who pays for it?
United States citizens.
Who pays all of the court fees?
United States citizens.
Any jail time?
U.S. citizens.
Deportation, if any?
United States citizens.
How about when they don't take care of their kids, the ones that U.S.citizens paid for?
They wind up in child protective services, that we pay for.
Yes, these are the very same children that we see on the news.
The ones that we are accused of separating from their illegal parents and tearing apart families in the name of illegal immigration.
Last I checked, you're free to take your kids home with you.
Many get taken away from their illegal parents because they rape them, molest them, physically abuse them, force them to become prostitutes, and sell drugs for them!
Then WE pay for all of those court fees, jail time, if any (they never show up for court, they disappear. Good luck finding an illegal immigrant named Jose Gonzales...then they commit the same crimes again) foster care, counseling for the child, social services, schooling, healthcare, etc.
All this, while hard-working United States citizens across the country are losing their jobs and their homes. And THEIR families.
The companies should be paying for it all.
Any legal expenses incurred by their illegal employees, and ALL healthcare.
Then they should be boycotted for being Anti-American, and put out of business.
But most of all, I blame our useless, greedy, sick government.
It does not serve the people of the United States, it is enslaving all of us.
There need to be changes, there is a modern-day revolution brewing. It's only a matter of time before citizens start taking things into their own hands. Citizens need to become more educated about their government and the atrocities being committed. We are losing our country and we need to fight for it through government legislation, and getting involved. It's only a matter of time before it escalates into violence, out of sheer frustration of the American people.
Citizens need to get involved NOW.
11 months ago
in Photos: Postville Immigration Rally on The Iowa Independent
Why do people keep saying it's about RACE?!! It's NOT!
That's completely ignorant, and just shows that you don't have a clue.
Educate yourself! I don't care if we're being invaded by Swedish supermodels! South America is at least 3 times bigger than the United States of America. Can we FIT everyone?! How about every other poor country in the world? Can we bring all of them here too? People from most parts of South America have babies much faster, younger, and in greater numbers than the rest of us, and I'm tired of paying for them! It's simple math! Did the government ASK me if I would like to pay for them all?
Over $6000 a year of my housing taxes (yes, that's correct! It's just a portion of what we have to pay!) goes JUST to pay for medicaid for illegal immigrants. Only illegal immigrants can actually qualify, without any proof of wages (U.S. citizens need tons of paperwork, and can almost never qualify) and I'm sick of being descriminated against for being a LEGAL citizen of the UNITED States of America. I've worked full time since I was 15. I lost my job, like many Americans, because of cheaper wages. It's hard to find another because I'm not currently bilingual-I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE!!!
United means ONE language, one nationality, one people! I'm proud to be American. If I were French, Italian or Mexican, I would live in that country.
Anyone that truly wants to be American, welcome! Do it LEGALLY.
Then follow our laws, stop sucking off of government programs that the rest of us are forced to pay for, and PAY TAXES. Pay for your own babies, food, housing, utilities, healthcare & CAR INSURANCE.
AND learn ENGLISH. People from every other country in the world can do it, I find it hard to believe that everyone else is just smarter.
BECOME AMERICAN. Stop forcing your culture down everyone else's throat.
My kindergartener is forced to learn Spanish in school.
In kindergarten! My other daughter has a learning disability. She's starting 3rd grade and can hardly read, but she's forced to learn Spanish.
I'm tired of buying groceries and no one speaks my language.
I'm tired of people being annoyed/nasty with me because I don't speak Spanish!
I would boycott those stores, but it's the same for most other stores. This is not America, this is an invasion, and it's destroying our American quality of life. I'm tired of dirty, drunken Hispanic men leering at my little girls. And I know many people involved in car accidents, from cars driven by illegals with no insurance, and no real identity. And there's plenty of people across the nation being killed by illegal aliens.
They litter all over my yard and our park, throwing cigarette butts & empty packs and broken beer bottles for my kids to play with.
I go to CVS, and I'm forced to hear Spanish commercials over the loudspeaker. They're destroying our economy by running up credit cards and never paying them, by taking our jobs, and sending our money to THEIR country, for starters. I haven't even touched on what illegal immigration doing to our schools, hospitals and legal systems--all paid for by American CITIZENS!
Outsourcing all of our goods is a completely separate issue, that makes ALL of us slaves, and destroys ALL of our economies.
Illegal immigration just makes it worse.
You want illegals here? ADOPT a family!
I can't afford to buy school lunch for MY kids, but I'm FORCED to buy it for them.
I have nothing against people wanting a better way of life, but I can't support them all.
I know many people against illegal immigration, but I don't know a single person against it because of race.
It's just a convenient excuse when you want to win an arguement.
That's completely ignorant, and just shows that you don't have a clue.
Educate yourself! I don't care if we're being invaded by Swedish supermodels! South America is at least 3 times bigger than the United States of America. Can we FIT everyone?! How about every other poor country in the world? Can we bring all of them here too? People from most parts of South America have babies much faster, younger, and in greater numbers than the rest of us, and I'm tired of paying for them! It's simple math! Did the government ASK me if I would like to pay for them all?
Over $6000 a year of my housing taxes (yes, that's correct! It's just a portion of what we have to pay!) goes JUST to pay for medicaid for illegal immigrants. Only illegal immigrants can actually qualify, without any proof of wages (U.S. citizens need tons of paperwork, and can almost never qualify) and I'm sick of being descriminated against for being a LEGAL citizen of the UNITED States of America. I've worked full time since I was 15. I lost my job, like many Americans, because of cheaper wages. It's hard to find another because I'm not currently bilingual-I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE!!!
United means ONE language, one nationality, one people! I'm proud to be American. If I were French, Italian or Mexican, I would live in that country.
Anyone that truly wants to be American, welcome! Do it LEGALLY.
Then follow our laws, stop sucking off of government programs that the rest of us are forced to pay for, and PAY TAXES. Pay for your own babies, food, housing, utilities, healthcare & CAR INSURANCE.
AND learn ENGLISH. People from every other country in the world can do it, I find it hard to believe that everyone else is just smarter.
BECOME AMERICAN. Stop forcing your culture down everyone else's throat.
My kindergartener is forced to learn Spanish in school.
In kindergarten! My other daughter has a learning disability. She's starting 3rd grade and can hardly read, but she's forced to learn Spanish.
I'm tired of buying groceries and no one speaks my language.
I'm tired of people being annoyed/nasty with me because I don't speak Spanish!
I would boycott those stores, but it's the same for most other stores. This is not America, this is an invasion, and it's destroying our American quality of life. I'm tired of dirty, drunken Hispanic men leering at my little girls. And I know many people involved in car accidents, from cars driven by illegals with no insurance, and no real identity. And there's plenty of people across the nation being killed by illegal aliens.
They litter all over my yard and our park, throwing cigarette butts & empty packs and broken beer bottles for my kids to play with.
I go to CVS, and I'm forced to hear Spanish commercials over the loudspeaker. They're destroying our economy by running up credit cards and never paying them, by taking our jobs, and sending our money to THEIR country, for starters. I haven't even touched on what illegal immigration doing to our schools, hospitals and legal systems--all paid for by American CITIZENS!
Outsourcing all of our goods is a completely separate issue, that makes ALL of us slaves, and destroys ALL of our economies.
Illegal immigration just makes it worse.
You want illegals here? ADOPT a family!
I can't afford to buy school lunch for MY kids, but I'm FORCED to buy it for them.
I have nothing against people wanting a better way of life, but I can't support them all.
I know many people against illegal immigration, but I don't know a single person against it because of race.
It's just a convenient excuse when you want to win an arguement.