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6 months ago

in The Martyrs Den on The Martyrs Den
Let me guess...

Then one of the disciples stabbed Jesus and he struck them down with lightning. At which point, the Roman's called in their army choppers to nepalm them, but Jesus - who was also a Ninja - jumped up to the plane and knocked them all out...

No? ;-)

7 months ago

in The Martyrs Den on The Martyrs Den
I love how I get blamed for this! :-D

'Following Christ is well beyond the idea of "It's better than Hell." You live the Kingdom of God. You do the Kingdom of God. If there is no Hell than we see more clearly how the way of Christ is mobile, active, participatory, engaging, growing, moving. There is no room for apathy. There is no place for idle bickering.'

My goodness, that's good! You can't blame me for that one.

'We can see the way of Christ as a way to bring people peace and freedom. The Kingdom of God then becomes a true Kingdom: all encompassing, all powerful, fearless and hopeful. With no Hell, Christ reigns not on the threat of wrath or eternal damnation, but on grace and love.'

Excellent thoughts, Eddie. Thanks.

9 months ago

in The Wilderness: Random transparency on The Wilderness
Good stuff, mate.

So, were Tuff and I the chosen two? :-)
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Clint So now you want me to name names, eh Graham? Never! :p

11 months ago

in The Wilderness : Thought For Today on The Wilderness
That's because they're all judgemental jerks! ;-)
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Clint Is that to be read in light of your latest post, Graham? Or in the
"spirit" of this comment? ;-)

1 year ago

in Calling all web designers… on the Jesus Manifesto
Mark, my suggestion would be *not* to change the design. As an end-user, I'd say it does perfectly what it is intended for.

Having said that, if you are going to move away from Wordpress, choose Drupal, not EE.

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Mark, my suggestion would be *not* to change the design. As an end-user, I'd say it does perfectly what it is intended for.


Having said that, if you are going to move away from Wordpress, choose Drupal, not EE.

1 year ago

in Co-Editor Position on the Jesus Manifesto
As an uninvolved reader, I just wanted to congratulate Mike on a great job.

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
As an uninvolved reader, I just wanted to congratulate Mike on a great job.

1 year ago

in The Jesus Legend on the Jesus Manifesto
Very nice review. Thanks.

1 year ago

in The Jesus Legend on the Jesus Manifesto
Very nice review. Thanks.

1 year ago

in Buddhist Follower of Jesus? on the Jesus Manifesto
'It takes nine months to be born of water, from conception to birth. it may take a lifetime to be born of the Spirit.'

What a wonderful line! Thanks, Ricky.

1 year ago

in Buddhist Follower of Jesus? on the Jesus Manifesto
'It takes nine months to be born of water, from conception to birth. it may take a lifetime to be born of the Spirit.'


What a wonderful line! Thanks, Ricky.

1 year ago

in Buddhist Follower of Jesus? on the Jesus Manifesto
Hi Mark,

I'm not sure I've got anything of any value to add. However, I have to confess that - without meaning to belittle anyone's views - I actually find it hard to believe that some people still think and act as if Christianity is "the right religion."

Cochs, I found this comment intriguing:

'A Buddhist is one who follows Gautama Buddha and a Christian is one who follows Jesus Christ.'

Is it accurate that Buddhists think of themselves as followers of The Buddha? I've also got to say that I know far, far too many Christians who don't strike me as followers of Jesus. So, I'm not sure that approaching questions like this in terms of the major world religions really sheds that much light.
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Orrin Just quickly,
though if cornered and asked to qualify my doxis/praxis pragmatism in this culture in this society I-i may eventually say I-i am a Buddhist follower of Christ however I-i am a Bodhisattva the Ethno/Scocio-centrism prerequisite to that path leads me to stay on what feel more comfortable ground of being for me. I-Am all things in Christ. Who am not to be you or Buddha or your grandmother and so on et al.... ? Who am I-I to not speak wisdom and compassion? Who am I-i not?

So here where we always already are Orrin is not a Buddhist or a Christian but a Body of all things God given and Mind of all things God given and here in the present I will sweep another season through my lungs right here with Christ with Buddha with Mark and with with all of you.
Love has no opposite.

I'll leave you with some fun and appropriately inappropriate lyrcs

Sugar Bullets
by Stuart Davis

all i ever wanted was
to get laid in a haunted house
all i ever wanted was
to punch out mickey mouse
all i ever wanted was
breath mints and cigarettes
all i ever wanted was
one blonde and one brunette, so
pull that pistol, tease that trigger
make that missile blow up bigger
sugar bullets
shoot off my
sugar bullets
shoot off, shoot off
all i ever wanted was
buddha without buddhism
all i ever wanted was
jesus christ without the christians
all i ever wanted was
peace and love without the pot smoke
all i ever wanted was
porno flicks without the plot, so
pull that pistol, tease that trigger
make that missile blow up bigger
sugar bullets,
shoot of my
sugar bullets
shoot off, shoot off
baby
sweet stigmatas stain the mattress
aren’t we
skin pinatas stuffed with plasma?
aren’t we
kundalini meets karate
knock me out of my own body
(chorus)
joet I agree - so what does it actually mean to be a follower of Christ?
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1 year ago

in Mammon, you cruel bastard! on the Jesus Manifesto
Thanks, Jonas.

I actually completely agree with all of that. However, I'm not sure that you're as primitivist as you think you are!

The reason I was asking for clarification is because I wasn't sure how that was relevant to what Mark is talking about here. He's not our pastor, after all.

Also, bearing in mind that I agree with your comment, I've always found the following quote insightful: "There is all the difference in the world between paying someone to do a job and releasing them to do a ministry." (Can't remember source.) Of course, why we assume that such 'releasing' must always be for the leaders is not clear to me!

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Thanks, Jonas.

I actually completely agree with all of that. However, I'm not sure that you're as primitivist as you think you are!

The reason I was asking for clarification is because I wasn't sure how that was relevant to what Mark is talking about here. He's not our pastor, after all.

Also, bearing in mind that I agree with your comment, I've always found the following quote insightful: "There is all the difference in the world between paying someone to do a job and releasing them to do a ministry." (Can't remember source.) Of course, why we assume that such 'releasing' must always be for the leaders is not clear to me!

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Thanks, Jonas.


I actually completely agree with all of that. However, I'm not sure that you're as primitivist as you think you are!



The reason I was asking for clarification is because I wasn't sure how that was relevant to what Mark is talking about here. He's not our pastor, after all.



Also, bearing in mind that I agree with your comment, I've always found the following quote insightful: "There is all the difference in the world between paying someone to do a job and releasing them to do a ministry." (Can't remember source.) Of course, why we assume that such 'releasing' must always be for the leaders is not clear to me!

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Jonas,

I'm not completely sure I understand your position here - and you'll recall that we've discussed this a couple of times before.

I would oppose pastors being paid a salary, but I have no problem with supporting other Christians for a ministry that could not otherwise take place. As Mark has suggested, both Paul and Jesus provide the model for this.

1 year ago

in Mammon, you cruel bastard! on the Jesus Manifesto
Jonas,

I'm not completely sure I understand your position here - and you'll recall that we've discussed this a couple of times before.

I would oppose pastors being paid a salary, but I have no problem with supporting other Christians for a ministry that could not otherwise take place. As Mark has suggested, both Paul and Jesus provide the model for this.

1 year ago

in Help Me Write a Christarchy Primer on the Jesus Manifesto
Would it be useful to have a chapter (or, at least, an appendix) that sets this in a larger eccleisal context? Perhaps discussing groups throughout Church history who have followed a similar path?

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Would it be useful to have a chapter (or, at least, an appendix) that sets this in a larger eccleisal context? Perhaps discussing groups throughout Church history who have followed a similar path?

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Jonas,


I'm not completely sure I understand your position here - and you'll recall that we've discussed this a couple of times before.



I would oppose pastors being paid a salary, but I have no problem with supporting other Christians for a ministry that could not otherwise take place. As Mark has suggested, both Paul and Jesus provide the model for this.

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Would it be useful to have a chapter (or, at least, an appendix) that sets this in a larger eccleisal context? Perhaps discussing groups throughout Church history who have followed a similar path?

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Mark, this question of whether or not a community is a church is vital to me. In fact, you statement that 'when these communities say they aren’t a church, but an addendum to the church that functions as a specialized community apart from the church, it does certainly support some sort of elitism', it reflects some of my concerns above.

1 year ago

in New Monasticism: Fringe Christianity? on the Jesus Manifesto
Mark, this question of whether or not a community is a church is vital to me. In fact, you statement that 'when these communities say they aren’t a church, but an addendum to the church that functions as a specialized community apart from the church, it does certainly support some sort of elitism', it reflects some of my concerns above.

1 year ago

in the Jesus Manifesto » Maintenance Mode on the Jesus Manifesto
Mark, this question of whether or not a community is a church is vital to me. In fact, you statement that 'when these communities say they aren’t a church, but an addendum to the church that functions as a specialized community apart from the church, it does certainly support some sort of elitism', it reflects some of my concerns above.
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