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1 year ago
in Obama and Faith Based Initiatives on Jack and Jill Politics
Damn! I didnt see it that way, but thanks for bringing me into the light. BO did say that he was going to bring people together! Cant be mad at him for doing what he said he was going to do.
1 year ago
in Tuesday Open Thread on Jack and Jill Politics
Is it too much to ask that he NOT turn into something worse than Bill Kristol? Or that as a constitutional scholar he respects the constitution? Is it too much to ask that respect the separation of Church and State? That he stands with those who supported him before? Maybe my understanding of "Change" and "Hope" are very different from his. He should've told us as much before we bought the line and hook.
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1 year ago
in Tuesday Open Thread on Jack and Jill Politics
I may still vote for him (though I'm seriously thinking about voting for Cynthia McKinney), but Barack has taken all the exciment out of my support for his candidacy. At this point, I have no other reason to vote for him other than he's not john mccain. The audacity of politics.
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Rhondacoca
I agree with you, I began feeling like that back in March.
afroacademic
That's why I check my enthusiasm at the door so the speak. Politicians will always disappoint you. From the start I knew Obama was to my right, after accepting that I've been a much happier political junkie. However, being a pragmatist I have many reasons to vote for him: Energy policy, full elimination of sentencing disparities, civil rights enforcement, more early childhood education, more government transparency, etc. So, as long as he's got better policies on many (I know not all) of the issues I care about then I'll vote for the guy.
CPL
McKinney's looking good to me, too. I simply cannot bring myself to vote for McCain, under any circumstances.
And Obama is giving me heartburn, especially with the flip-flop on FISA.
My colleagues at Black Agenda Report has been singing the "Obama-Ain't-What-He-Appears-To-Be" theme song since 2003. Maybe we need to start listening to the lyrics, so we won't keep singing "Obama done done Me Wrong" anthem once he gets the White House.
However, if Cynthia McKinney gets 2% of the National vote, it's enough to send a message to Obama, and one he won't like receiving, either.
Where's Bruce Dixon when I need him?
And Obama is giving me heartburn, especially with the flip-flop on FISA.
My colleagues at Black Agenda Report has been singing the "Obama-Ain't-What-He-Appears-To-Be" theme song since 2003. Maybe we need to start listening to the lyrics, so we won't keep singing "Obama done done Me Wrong" anthem once he gets the White House.
However, if Cynthia McKinney gets 2% of the National vote, it's enough to send a message to Obama, and one he won't like receiving, either.
Where's Bruce Dixon when I need him?
1 year ago
in Keith Sees FISA Loophole for Criminal Prosecution on Jack and Jill Politics
Barack cant run away from this! he's going to have to take some difficult stances every once in a while.
1 year ago
in Obama Speaks of Patriotism on Jack and Jill Politics
All I am saying is, let's not act like the Republicans with Bush! If BO does the wrong thing he must catch the heat for it. Just saying that "hey What are you going to do? Vote McCain" isnt enough to motivate folks. Barack has to be more than "be scared of John McCain."
is that too much to ask?
is that too much to ask?
1 year ago
in Obama Speaks of Patriotism on Jack and Jill Politics
I dont care about narrow social issues! I care about ending the war; I care about the returning the rule of law in this country. Now, are you saying that his position on FISA is principled? Come on!
Obviously, he's better than McCain or even Hillary, but he's proving to be more of the same.
Obviously, he's better than McCain or even Hillary, but he's proving to be more of the same.
1 year ago
in Obama Speaks of Patriotism on Jack and Jill Politics
And I understand that. But when the main theme of your campaign is "CHANGE" you must live up to that. I mean, before being in the senate he spoke about the humanity of the Palestinians; then last year he spoke about NOT letting the Likud party dictate american's relations to israel to now, the brother is farther to the right of Bill Kristol when it comes to Israel. He even called Israel's security "Sacrosant"; Not even Bush talks like that! How did he get there? Not only that, but he has a Pro-Walmart man running his economic team, he's got the same awful clinton people on foreign policy (including Madeline "I dont care about Iraqi children" Albright), he's changed his position on FISA, public campaign finance, his Cuba/Latin America speech is more American imperialism (I'm beginning to call it Manifest Destiny with a Black face on it), and that's without mentioning his reaction to the two latest supreme court decision (the death penalty one and the 2nd ammendment one), and the fact that his Iraq withdraw plan leaves all the Blackwater mercenaries intact!
I understand that certain things must be done in order to achieve power, but at what price? By the time he'll get there we wont know him or what he stands for!
I understand that certain things must be done in order to achieve power, but at what price? By the time he'll get there we wont know him or what he stands for!
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CraigHickman
I've read this comment in about 10 other places.
Copy and pasting is so, well, unoriginal.
Copy and pasting is so, well, unoriginal.
1 year ago
in Obama Speaks of Patriotism on Jack and Jill Politics
Huh, and of course, the Obama camp didnt disappoint! They went and threw Wes Clark under the bus! What did WC said that was sooooooo wrong and needed to be denounce? Will BO ever take a controversial stand? Boy, these last three weeks have revealed a whole lot of things about BO (reversing on public financing, his postring before AIPAC, his approval of the SC's 2nd Amendment case, the fact that he's now in favor of the School of the Americas (please google it), his horrendous and barbaric support for the Death Penalty). This new Barack?? I barely knew you!
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heartsandflowers
You can forget about any politician trying to run a campaign in either party going up against AIPAC. And Wes Clarke is a Hillary surrogate. He has no excuse for dissing McCain about his service record. It is an unspoken code of honor amongst military personnel that you do NOT do that! Obama has a no drama policy and Gen Clarke's speech is a lot of drama.
But I'll say it again:
I'd rather win than be right. If one takes that to mean I have no principles, so be it.
Winning doesn't happen without compromise, not in politics, not it marriage, not in life.