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Re: Steve Eller - Worship Leading, Web Design - San Diego, CA› Catalina Triathalon

bobby — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:34:48 -0000

Ahh man! You were there during that? I'm sorta jealous. Looks fun. If I had a free weekend there that weekend I'd so be racing that! Glad you had a good time away!

Re: Steve Eller - Worship Leading, Web Design - San Diego, CA› From Above The Catalina Casino

bobby — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:35:21 -0000

Did SCUBA right there. Pretty sweet.

Re: Your Hired!!!

bobby — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:01:45 -0000

Congrats dude!!

Re: The Church is Greener on the Other Side

bobby — Fri, 23 May 2008 09:48:54 -0000

So, not gonna lie. Have kinda been slow gettin too excited about the whole green thing.

But in a place like Santa Cruz, jumping onboard would go a long way to reach our community. Might have to think about stealing an idea or two from ya. Good stuff.

Re: Hirsch on Church

bobby — Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:02:20 -0000

I'm reading The Shaping Of Things To Come right now. I just read that first line you quoted last week in the book. Christology should create our missiology which then shapes our ecclesiology.

It really hit me hard and I have had it on my mind non stop. Good stuff.

Re: L O S T is Like Doing my Taxes

bobby — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:52:50 -0000

Dude. Hilarious!

Re: New Westwinds Ad

bobby — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:24:41 -0000

Sweet dude. Good stuff.
Where will this be played?

Re: Celebrity Pastor Restoration Part 2

bobby — Fri, 08 May 2009 14:02:03 -0000

Amen. Thanks JVo. Especially that first post for me. But "celebrity" is a relative term. I'm watching it happen to some degree with much less of a "celebrity", but same story.

Seems like we want to talk a LOT about second chances these days. And on one hand we should. Grace is VITALLY important. But it seems like the pendulum has swung the other way sometimes. Second chances means no consequences.

Unfortunately, it says a lot about those leaders who refuse to come under the authority/accountability of a local church at all for a time after making large mistakes.

Re: Wearing Shorts: Rules for Men Over 35

bobby — Tue, 26 May 2009 18:01:23 -0000

I agree with most of those. However I think I do see a slight cultural difference in terms of geographic location. Board shorts are probably much more acceptable in communities where there is at least an ocean nearby, such as mine.

And BTW, I'm not saying this cause I wanna wear speedos, but if you can wear bike shorts if you're on a good bike, and sports shorts if you play the sport, shouldn't you be able to wear speedos if you play waterpolo or swim competitively?

Re: Time to Pay the Piper (My Response to John Piper's Blogpost on Twitter in Church)

bobby — Sat, 30 May 2009 17:12:53 -0000

Well put JVo. Thanks for your thoughts. Interesting conversation as I have mad respect for you as a friend and inspiration, and Piper has become a bit of a hero because of stuff like Desiring God and soul shaping messages from Passion stuff.

Is listening to a sermon really the only way we hear from God? Yeah, that is a bit narrow. While I agree with Pat that you will be distracted anyway if it's a poor presentation, I also think we should question if we have perhaps missed the boat in elevating the presentation of the pastor/teacher above everything else in the process of spiritual growth and community gatherings.

Let's try and be more holistic in how we approach gatherings and discipleship. I don't think we should do away with teaching and preaching by any means, but there is also something to be said about the collective knowledge of everyone else in the room that at some point probably far outweighs the talking head.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 150,000 Visitor Contest!!!

bobby — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:44:05 -0000

Sure...why not? I'm game. See ya again tomorrow!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 150,000 Contest Entry 2!!!

bobby — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:01:13 -0000

Sure...in again.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » ANGRY PARENT EDIT* Parades, PreSchool, and Polish Penguins

bobby — Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:55:25 -0000

Yeah...wow. Man, all I know to say right now is some people can be real jerks sometimes. You don't have to agree with everything on a persons blog. Truth is, I haven't agreed with everything I've ever read from Carlos, and I realize that it's ok to disagree. Heck, even post a comment sharing your disagreement. I've been around here long enough to know Los is cool with that.

But malicious personal attacks...come on people. Be civil for crying out loud. I love a good discussion, but name calling and rudeness is uncalled for. If you really have that big of a problem with Carlos personally (ahem...MIke M.), just don't stop by. Or feel free not to be a jerk.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Who Are You? Everybody Now.

bobby — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:47:59 -0000

bobby
Santa Cruz, CA
24!!! (Best show on TV...EVER)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Sandals Next Sermon Series

bobby — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:38:31 -0000

Hey! I think I saw that chick in downtown Santa Cruz today! This place is a little different than SoCal.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Sandals Next Sermon Series

bobby — Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:39:06 -0000

Or maybe it was a dude...I'm actually not sure.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Dan Sutherland on A Church in Crisis

bobby — Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:27:27 -0000

Thanks for the sharing that info. That was a message I needed to listen to this morning.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Sanjaya

bobby — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:31:27 -0000

I said the same thing to my wife last night. I'm really pretty bummed he left because he was the most entertaining thing about the show. Unfortunately though, she would have been ticked if I voted for him, so I couldn't really help the kid out!

maybe he, William Hung, and that Chicken Little kid can go on tour together.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » NBC News May Soon Have Blood Stained Hands

bobby — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:02:21 -0000

Hmmm. Quite a conversation.

Sorry Clay, but i think that unfortunately, most of those headlines would be found regardless. It's the jacked up world we live in. I do remember hearing things on Columbine anniversaries. If a guy had an explosive device that powerful, he probably didn't plan his attack in the past two days. There are bomb threats made regularly in our society.

Both sides make some good points. I tend to lean toward Anne's camp, though. (Now that it's kind become Los' camp vs. Anne's camp. ;) ) I think the thing that scares me the most, is who is the person or the people deciding what is and isn't appropriate for us to see/hear and at what point does it cross the line? Don't have an answer on that, just a fear.

As far as focusing on victims, I've seen more coverage overall on the sadness of the event, on the effect of the community, and the loss of the student than I have about the killer over the past week.

To be honest, maybe I need to watch more news, but I hadn't even heard about this til I read this post, so I went to MSNBC to see what we're talkin about here. I guess it just didn't seem that horrible to me. To be honest, I'd be really interested to hear a point of view from someone who had family involved. I wonder how much it really does add to their pain. Of course, their probably way to busy grieving and taking care of each other to let us know about this. If anyone sees anything though, let us know.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Ragamuffin Soulcast 19

bobby — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:55:01 -0000

No W.C. shout out for a brotha in Norcal? I've been keepin up, now. :(

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » The Sun Came Out…

bobby — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:30:49 -0000

Dude...you even shaved for the role, huh? Now that's dedication. Lookin slick there moneybags!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Worship Confessional 29

bobby — Tue, 01 May 2007 01:53:24 -0000

Good stuff. Enjoyed your version of Everlasting God.

And thanks for pimpin my confession. Does that make you my pimp? And what does that make me. Never mind.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Jake Smith - What I Plan To Do

bobby — Thu, 03 May 2007 23:09:12 -0000

Wow. Good stuff man. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Sandals Church Worship Intern Application and Job Description

bobby — Fri, 04 May 2007 22:28:47 -0000

I spread the news on my blog, but if someone gets the job as a result, I want some commission! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Not So Amazing Grace

bobby — Mon, 07 May 2007 13:21:56 -0000

I think he should go on tour opening for Sanjaya and William Hung.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Christian Book Stores

bobby — Tue, 08 May 2007 19:55:06 -0000

1. Anointing oil
2. Cause black represents satan, white would be too stark, pink too girly, baby blue...just right.
3. Sadly, yes. If it was done well it might be cool. But it's the homeschool mom giving it a weird voice and making it look like it's entire head is folding in half when it talks.
4. Duh...why would Christians read anything but a Bible?
5. Only the prosperity followers who can afford it cause they gave to TBN.
6. Would you be happy to be there all day? They probably give up their salvation by the time their done working there.
7. You haven't been there in over a year. Who would buy the magazines? Those customers are all at Borders acting happy.
8. Too hang boxes of cheesy crap on with the metal hook things that fit in the cracks, like testamints and pins.
9. You just say thank you cause complaining or demanding excellence would be very unspiritual.
10. Anointing oil. Oh yeah, and those Jesus candles, and hair products in the customers heads, too.

I'm not really that cynical...I think. Just my thoughts.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Christian Book Stores

bobby — Tue, 08 May 2007 19:57:07 -0000

PS - no offense to homeschool mom on #3. I know some of you are very cool. Just who it tends to be.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Touché

bobby — Mon, 14 May 2007 23:29:39 -0000

Something inside me says it was pretty fun, but my closed mindedness won and I refused to allow a chuckle to come out. Sorry. ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 91 Year Old Vet, Beaten

bobby — Tue, 15 May 2007 12:54:15 -0000

Aw man. I can't even think of a heavy enough punishment for that punk. That's just ridiculous. And I'm sorry, while I hope I never come across a situation like that, I am ticked at all the bystanders.

You guys are partially right, I may be afraid in the situation. And Robin, I agree that as a mother, jumping in wouldn't have been wise. But as for myself, I'd be ashamed of myself if I hadn't jumped in and stopped this, even if it meant getting hurt in the process. I just hate the idea of not doing something when someone defenseless is being hurt, especially elderly, ladies and children.

My biggest fear after seeing him wail on that guy, is if I did manage to somehow get the upper hand on that guy, that I might not stop myself when I should. Again, here's to hoping I never have to make the call.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 91 Year Old Vet, Beaten

bobby — Tue, 15 May 2007 22:59:03 -0000

"This guys crime is no worse than my lusting or your gluttony."

I beg to differ big time. In regard to "sin" they may all have the same weight as far as our spiritual state, but to live in this world there are levels of crimes. My gluttony hasn't left another person lying on the ground bleeding recently while I took off in their car.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Pessimist’s Mug

bobby — Fri, 18 May 2007 22:19:48 -0000

Well, I guess i need it, cause if you're a pessimist, you don't need anything to make everything taste bitter. But for an ultra optimist like myself, maybe it would be just enough to bring me into reality!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Wanna Go to Church? ONLINE?

bobby — Mon, 21 May 2007 01:19:51 -0000

The whole idea that if one erson is saved it's worth the money - sorry, I don't buy it. There is always a good or bad return on investment and you got to think about where the most effective place is for a particular church to spend their money. Otherwise we can start throwing money all over the place and as long as one person is saved with each investment, no matter how big, it was worth it.

That being said, I say that if this is reaching people that I can't, and they feel it is a good use of resources, go for it. And it is reaching people. There was a great story shared recently on their blog of a guy who's life was transformed as a result. I agree that people should be involved in community beyond a computer screen, but you'll never reach em if you won't try until they go for that. Meet them where they are, like Jesus did, and then help guide them to healthy relationships and community.

And can you serve in the church there? Just wondering, cause if so, one of the ushers should really have a talk with the squirrel being about being less distracting.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » John Rambo

bobby — Tue, 22 May 2007 15:35:53 -0000

Dude...I have to see this movie.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Only Slightly Gay

bobby — Wed, 23 May 2007 19:52:41 -0000

How did you guys ever get the answer? I gave up after 10 minutes of scrolling through all their sponsors offers!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » It’s Forbidden to…?

bobby — Fri, 25 May 2007 16:34:41 -0000

Where was this sign located?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » OH CRAP!!! I CLOSED THAT TAB!!!

bobby — Fri, 25 May 2007 22:11:10 -0000

DUDE!! You are the bomb! I have needed that SO many times. Now, until I remember it, I'll just have to come here every time I accidentally close a tab. Good way to up your stats I guess.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » The So Show

bobby — Mon, 28 May 2007 13:48:45 -0000

I love it. your daughter has already learned to video blog. A true Whittaker.

(Sidenote): So that's the wrong side of the tracks in Riverside? Looked kinda nice, from the window anyway. Makes me wanna see what the right side is like! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » The Praize Helmet

bobby — Mon, 28 May 2007 15:04:16 -0000

I'm not sure exactly how those pictures really came to be, but I love that everyone else in your band and in the pictures look as if nothing is out of the ordinary at all.
Maybe it really does work...

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Flowerdust Scandal

bobby — Thu, 31 May 2007 19:40:30 -0000

When did you get a new Blackberry? Did I miss something? I thought yours got washed and you were using the RAZR in the meantime.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » OK…OK…OK…OK!!!

bobby — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 11:50:41 -0000

I wonder what Toby Mac thinks when he sees this now.

I'm glad I became a Christ follower late enough to miss this stage.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Big Wave

bobby — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:09:06 -0000

Ah, c'mon now...I know that's not a SoCal wave. Another reason?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I Can Appreciate

bobby — Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:20:34 -0000

Gnice...Balboa Park in SD I think. Love it.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » To Pay or Play or Maybe Just Pray

bobby — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:43:26 -0000

There's a lot of good points on both sides here. For me though, I just don't feel real comfortable paying the worship band. I won't say I'll never do it, cause as soon as I do I'll be forced to eat my words, but I can't imagine taking that step.

Part of it is I know of at least 2 churches in SoCal (Sandals being one) that fall into the mega-church category, don't pay their bands, and have awesome worship experiences.

To the point that there are some paid position, ie. pastor, worship pastor, etc. - true. However, I do think there is a discussion as to what those people are paid to do. Yes I am paid, full time at my church. Yes, I do lead worship among other responsibilities every Sunday morning, and I do consider this part of what I get paid to do. However, I don't see that as my primary reason for being paid. Biblically, I feel like I am here ful-time with the goal of equipping others to do ministry. I'm not sure where this discussion goes or how it effects the issue exactly, but it seemed worth bringing up to me.

At the risk of sounding uncaring or un-understanding, I'd rather have a slightly lower quality of music with a higher quality of worship due to hearts of service. I think if you have a church the size of Saddleback, or Willow, and are in an area where there are lots of artists, and you can't find enough quality musicians who want to volunteer their time for worship, could there be a deeper issue there? Either you don't have enough musicians and you have to ask yourself why, or they are unwilling to give of themselves for the mission and vision of the church (within reason, of course) and you have to ask yourself why.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » To Pay or Play or Maybe Just Pray

bobby — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:14:16 -0000

Rodge - it's easy to sit back and call people Christian tightwads with a poverty mentality. Then try looking at the percentage of people who tithe, the amount that comes in, and the number of things churches have as expenses. Let's also keep in mind that a vast majority of churches across the country are under 200 people.

It becomes tougher than you think.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » SiCKO

bobby — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:56:28 -0000

Sorry, but for me it just comes down to this - I won't give Moore a dime of my money. Reform may be needed, I don't know enough, I admit that. But when it comes to Moore, I don't trust him, I don't like him, wont support him.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Worship Confessional 35

bobby — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:39:32 -0000

Dude...I just happened to be at Sandals the first time you introduced What The World Will Never Take. And that's what introduced me to the greatness that is United. I love that song! Anyway, nice confessions.

And P.S. - I've been confessin for a while now, but no linkage in the sidebar. :(

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Please Explain

bobby — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:03:14 -0000

"Wow Paul...errr...Pauline. That surgery turned out better than I thought it would. i think you should probably go to the other toilet now."

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Click Comments Stink

bobby — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:17:58 -0000

You know what bugs me about them? Well, actually it's the exact reason Cole put em on. (Sorry Cole!) Where are the negative options. Hey, if you disagree with somthing on my blog, feel free to let me know, just don't do it anonymously.

Maybe I'll make my own that has a few extra options like, "Are you kidding me?", or "That's ridiculous", or "that post kinda sucked."

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Game Over Part 2

bobby — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:28:33 -0000

Dude, after reading all those comments, it just re-enforces the idea that I would rather have 18 kids and no money than do that. End of story. We get our pets fixed, not dad.

Here's hoping for the best for ya. Now I got to go find a way to get all those images out of my head!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » If You Are Male, And Have Children, You May Watch This…

bobby — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:16:42 -0000

Did you intentionally shake that camera, or was it just sitting on your lap?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Patty The Intern

bobby — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:00:31 -0000

You gotta have that video online after you use it. Now I wanna see it! And beside the fact that I work too on Sundays, Riverside is a bit far.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Marvelous Light and You?

bobby — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:14:21 -0000

Believe it or not, I don't really know the song so well. But lyrically, the first verse gets me the most. A father to the fatherless. Yeah. Enough said.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » One…

bobby — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:13:48 -0000

Hope you have a good day at Sandals tomorrow bro. My family has been praying for you, too. You are one heck of a blessed dude with all this prayer! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Thank You Sandals Church And Hello…

bobby — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:36:18 -0000

Congrats bro. I'm stoked for you. Lots of transition among several worship leaders I know in this past year. I can't wait to hear about it and join you on the journey via your blog.

Also, when I was going through m transition recently, another worship leader/blogger mentioned in passing that God seems to speak to us more during those periods in our lives. For some reason that stuck with me. He doesn't even remember saying it. And I'm not sure if God really talks more, or we just listen more. Anyway, enough rambling. The point is, I hope to and look forward to hearing what it is that God is saying to you in this season as he stretches you...before you get a little more comfortable again.

And I hope for the next month you get to experience an outpouring of love from your Sandals community that you could never imagine. After nine years of service, you definitely deserve it. Congrats again. And God bless the journey.
OK. I'm out.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 250,000 Visits!!!!!

bobby — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:20:47 -0000

I think Mr. Police Man is right. Unless you're just a step ahead and already moving on to the next goal, in which case it's all good.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A Note On Church Transition

bobby — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:04:07 -0000

True dat.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Stretching Scrim Simply Seems Slightly Sucky

bobby — Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:06:50 -0000

Sorry. Gotta disagree. Haven't done it et, but want to sometime. I think it can actually look kinda cool sometimes, especially if it's lit well. It's a whole lot better the bland nothingness that lots of churches do.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Sandals Staff Goodbye Party

bobby — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 17:38:08 -0000

Whoa. Who was that guy singing "I Could Sing Of Your Love Forever." Quite the evolution of Los. Were those corduroy pants?

Very cool vid man.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » LA Ink Update #13

bobby — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:50:23 -0000

Geez. Not a bad way to get footage to commemorate your final day at Sandals, eh?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Snap Went The Lens At Sandals Church

bobby — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:33:04 -0000

Dude...part of me wishes I were at Sandals just for the cool pictures to put on my blog alone! Can't wait to see the video footage on LA Ink!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Happy Birthday to Me

bobby — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:01:57 -0000

Happy Belated Birthday! Hope it rocked.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » So Cal to Buckhead #6 - My New Office Space

bobby — Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:36:54 -0000

Very nice. I have like a quarter of that space to work with, but I'm inspired nonetheless. I need to get to decoratin!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Can’t Think Of A Title

bobby — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:27:04 -0000

Why do I have the feeling it wouldn't go over very well if I created the White College Football Experience computer game. Given, it wouldn't be all that fun since you'd only have quarterbacks and kickers to play the game with, but I think you get my point.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Can’t Think Of A Title

bobby — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:31:21 -0000

Haha. Hey now. Touche.
You might be surprised though. There's more than just white people in Santa Cruz. The football teams are probably a little more diverse than that last staff team photo I saw here. ;)

And don't pin me as KKK or nothing. Hopefully you heard that last comment as a joke, as I did yours too.
If anything, I hate seeing any group lack diversity. Just in case anyone took that first comment differently. But I think I'm getting a little more serious now than this post was meant to be.
Oops.
Sorry.
Done.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Church…?

bobby — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 17:06:56 -0000

Christian Life Center Santa Cruz
First experience in Assemblies of God.

Janie-
That may not be far off! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Welcome To Atlanta Where the Playas Play #1- You Work Where?

bobby — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:08:24 -0000

Actually, just for the record, I've recently learned that giving freeways their own identity isn't a West Coast thang, it's actually just a SoCal thang. I get laughed at regularly up here in NorCal for using the vernacular. But I keep it going anyways. Keepin true to the roots!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Production Team - Pimped

bobby — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:55:46 -0000

The jackets are hot one. Heck, I want one.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Buckhead Restoration Promo

bobby — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:44:21 -0000

Wow. Yeah. That was sic. What software is used to create/edit that?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » It’s Official

bobby — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:25:53 -0000

Right on! Congrats bro!
It's been way cool being able to follow the whole process here, from announcement, to picking him up, to this. Looking forward to years of more stories of what God is doing in your lives!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » LA Ink - Did You Watch?

bobby — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:18:26 -0000

In Cali. No cable.
Going to a friends house right now to catch it.
Paying him with Sam Adams.
I can't wait.
And of course I get to share it with him.
;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » My LA Ink Segment

bobby — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:32:06 -0000

Actually, there is a cheaper way to own you digitally.
www.videodl.org

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Space Time

bobby — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:07:40 -0000

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 10 Reasons Why Being Authentic Sucks

bobby — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:16:24 -0000

16. Stuffy Christians on your church board (in a fairly traditional church) see authenticity on your blog and email the entire board and staff to call a meeting because of links to trash like YouTube and MySpace by a pastor.

(he must not know that all the pastors on staff have their own MySpace.)

Sorry. Still a bad taste from that one. Hope he doesn't come here and see this comment. Not worried though. There's plenty here to tweak him here before he ever gets to the clicking on "comments" part.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 10 Reasons Why Being Authentic Sucks

bobby — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:17:38 -0000

Sorry. That last one just kinda spewed outta me. Maybe i should have just lumped it into #10 instead of spewing on your blog. My bad. ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Welcome To Atlanta Where The Players Play #4 - Tyler Tuesdays

bobby — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:43:28 -0000

I aint gonna lie...I'm way jealous that you get to sit there with Andy Stanley with a few other people every week. Gnice!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Grrrrrs, Shouts, and If I Were In Chargeof’s

bobby — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:58:53 -0000

I like what John mentioned earlier. I think it's a great point you make Los. Just complaining and being angry without movement or solutions is just destructive. But where is the balance? I think the question is what are we doing with our dissatisfaction?

There are times that a little "complaint" is warranted and is a spark from an actual issue needing to be solved that can then ignite a fire inside of us to "start living."

I wonder how many great revolutions have been started as a result of dissatisfaction with the status quo. The one that comes to mind the most is Martin Luther. What if he hadn't gotten angry and challenged the direction of his modern church?

Given, we're nowhere near the state they were in then. Thus the need for balance. So I don't disagree AT ALL, just makes me think about the flip side as well.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » “What’s this right here?”

bobby — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 23:00:49 -0000

Oh my goodness. That's hilarious. I am so laughing like an immature Jr. High Kid, but that was funny!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Good Morning, Good Morning

bobby — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:33:47 -0000

Went to bed just as late as usual. Got up the same time as usual. Which means I actually got into the office early like I usually am wanting to and was able to get ready for some meetings. Now back to preppin!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Fashion or Fleece?

bobby — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:14:48 -0000

Maybe I'm just not nearly "cool" enough, but it really doesn't seem that deep.

Just let Andy know that you are so cool, you can wear a fleece and make it look a whole lot cooler than he can. Heck maybe you'll be a trendsetter. Throw up a couple of posts about how cool fleeces are and maybe people will start buying them in LA.

Hey, ya never know.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » My Production Team Can Beat Up Your Production Team

bobby — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:24:43 -0000

Just wondering...are those all staff there? Or were a few of those production guys volunteers there on a Thursday afternoon?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Bringin’ LA to the ATL - The Pictures

bobby — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:28:31 -0000

OK, so I've never really been a fan of the faux-hawk, but I absolutely love that your son is sportin one. He definitely makes it look good!

Those are sick pictures man. I'm jealous. I want a Daley.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Obama On My Mind

bobby — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:16:58 -0000

Jarrett, sorry to disagree, but so far I think the election sucks. And sorry I can't get all excited about a woman and an african-american running. I think it's great on one hand, but honestly, I could care less what color the person in the white house is, I care more about their politics and character and for me neither one of those candidates does it. And I aint votin for em so we can have a historic year.

I admit, I need to get more educated on the republican candidates. I know I don't like Guilianni, but I don't know much about the others. Unfortunately, I'm finding that I don't think I like anyone running so far. But we'll see what happens.

And I'm with Adam S. If those 2 are the option...dang.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Who’s Going To Dinner With the Governor?

bobby — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:45:11 -0000

Texas stole my pray for rain response. Caught that on the news and wondered how close it was to you. then I see this. Crazy.

Do share more soon. And nice threads.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Worship Confessional 40, Cuarenta, Four Zero, Coming Tonight

bobby — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:21:07 -0000

Why yes, I still am. Took a bit of a break, but been back for a few weeks. Hopefully this weeks will be up tomorrow. Kinda slammed this week.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Ragamuffin Soul Goes Green

bobby — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:14:32 -0000

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one that couldn't comment. i was afraid something was wrong with my browser.

It's lookin good, man!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Buckhead Church Christmas Opener

bobby — Sun, 23 Dec 2007 23:15:51 -0000

Very cool idea. Nicely done. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Looks Like I Might Not Have To Move To Canada

bobby — Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:47:02 -0000

Pleasantly.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Fat Ragamuffin Returns - ‘08…Day 1

bobby — Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:00:38 -0000

Yup. I hear ya. I lost almost 20 last year. And I'm back up 11 last I checked. Wife and I are starting South Beach again this week.

But if any of us are in, that doesn't require we shake it, does it? ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A Waste Of Time

bobby — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:03:19 -0000

Tim - I'm kinda hoping you were joking with the "because I questioned Los" part. I've been around this blog for a while, and have at times disagreed with Los, and have found that differing thoughts and opinions are usually welcomed and respected.

I think they may have misunderstood your post because the vibe of it seemed to lead one in the direction of Christian or Worship music. But regardless, I still have to disagree with some of what you said.

I think most of us here would agree that only God's spirit ultimately brings people to that place of facedown worship. But it goes way too far, in my opinion, to say that nothing "we do has an outcome on our worship." The fact is, God uses us to do that. Otherwise, why put any effort at all into how we present our worship. And where is the line of what we do and don't do? Should we stop using video projectors and go back to transparencies? Or are projectors ok when we don't use video backgrounds, because those are trying too much to be "attractional."

I understand that a cool opener doesn't "automatically" bring people into worship. NOTHING "automatically" brings people into worship. Let's be honest...there's been times where God's presence is thick in a room for everybody but me, and I resist even Him drawing me into worship. But I would go so far as to say that a cool opener can draw many into worship. In our human state it creates an atmosphere that opens us up or allows us to focus more fully on Christ.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A Waste Of Time

bobby — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:57:33 -0000

That's fair Tim. I'll just leave it at agreeing to disagree. We agree that the song was sweet. We disagree on the statement Los made. In this case, I choose to agree with him. That opener has the ability to draw people in, and to prepare them in a way that they will worship even louder. Hopefully that speaks directly to the statement you disagree with.

I guess I thought all the other stuff you wrote and we were responding to had to do with why you felt that way.

I didn't suggest that YOU wanted transparencies. Just asking where the line is of what we should or shouldn't do if we have nothing to do with drawing people in, close, tight. I don't know about you, but that's the only reason I do all the things I do. To draw people in, close, tight, so their worship will be amplified. Creating an atmosphere that breaks down the walls around people so they are more open to God's spirit and their worship becomes that much louder.

Did I twist anything? Was that too far away from that one statement?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Wrecked - Blogging For Change

bobby — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:58:44 -0000

Not gonna lie. Jealous.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » You Ask…I’ll Answer

bobby — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:47:18 -0000

Good idea. You have enough blogging material to last you the rest of the year now. And all these people will wanna hear it. Smart you are my friend. Here's a few more:

Can I have some free drum loops to sample and try at our church from North Point?
What does the training/execution of your host teams look like at Buckhead?
Why is there braille on drive up ATM's?
What is the actual definition and role of holy spirit baptism and when does it happen in the life of a Christ-follower? How does one know they have received it? (A slightly controversial one that might dip into that 14yr degree there.)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » My Hero

bobby — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:27:51 -0000

Remember Ultimate Warrior. WWF baby. Thanks for the YouTube trip down memory lane.

Oh yeah, and Michael Jackson too.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » All North Point Campuses Services Cancelled

bobby — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:53:40 -0000

Hopefully on their way there to get beat by my Chargers! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » WE ARE STAYING!!! WE HAVE A HOUSE!!!

bobby — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:16:05 -0000

Congrats dude! That's awesome! Can't wait to visit the ATL some day! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Waste of Time?

bobby — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:37:59 -0000

both

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Compassion Video Update 1

bobby — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:58:02 -0000

present

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Brussels or Bust

bobby — Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:20:46 -0000

Repalle, India. About 8785.7 miles.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Compassion Video Update 2

bobby — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:47:30 -0000

Freaking awesome. Not sure if I enjoy taking the trip with you via blog or if watching just makes me wanna be there even more with all those fun people!

Prayin for ya man!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » “Do You Know What It Means To Adopt?”

bobby — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 12:28:05 -0000

Dude, how did you possibly hold it together. I read a couple words and my eyes teared up instantly. Geez.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » In Your Honest Opinion…

bobby — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:26:29 -0000

I think Obama took over the edge for a few reasons. The number one being his charisma and ability to speak, and think that's ridiculous to only chalk that up to "American Idol" president. There is something to be said for a leader who can cast vision and motivate people. Part of the reason I've seen this be such a strong factor is my onw outlook. I don't care for either one of these candidates when it comes to their politics. But Obama is such a great motivator that I have to remind myself that because I find myself liking him and being caught up at times in his positive vision for a better future.

That being said, I also wonder if a lot of Democrats aren't also realizing that he has a way better shot (in my opinion) at actually winning the presidency against probably McCain. I know I could get crucified for saying this, but dare I suggest, that as much as some of y'all wanna think it wouldn't matter, perhaps a majority of the U.S. isn't actually ready to vote for a female president? Just a thought.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I Cried A Good Cry

bobby — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:43:18 -0000

I hear ya bro. I don't know how to describe some of the ways I miss Revolution in Long Beach and our family there at times. You do a great job expressing it for you, and it kinda frees me up a little to feel the way I do. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Last Night I Dreamed…

bobby — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:23:07 -0000

OK...after last night, I HAD to come back and revisit this post.

I had this dream last night that I visited Buckhead. (Seriously, this is the first time you have ever appeared in a dream.) I was hanging out in the tech booth with this guy and the service starts and the mic isn't up. Several more times cues are missed and the sound sucks. Some technical director or something comes in all pissed and the tech guy blamed me for the mistakes.

"I'm just here to watch!" I say.
"You're the professional, you should know what you're doing." the tech guy says to me.

Then I want to run sound for the second service so I can do it better than the guy who was supposed to cause I'm really irritated with him.

Then a friend of mine from years ago who was number 2 golfer in the state of Utah his Senior year of high school pops his head in to say hi to people and notices me. We chat and he's dressed in golf gear and a little sweaty. Turns out he plays PGA now and he's there for the Augusta National which, in my dream, is right outside the church. I wanted to go but felt bad asking him for free passes. Then I woke up.

Really weird. And random.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » The Myth Of The Creative Leadership Lid

bobby — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:11:51 -0000

Good stuff. Lots to chew on there. I'm gonna keep this post up for a few days and click on some of the links as I have time. Us creatives are the worst with time management, ya know. ;)

On the strengths and weaknesses point, a tool that I have really appreciated is strengthfinders. You have to buy the book to take the onlne test, but I think it is well worth it. It gives you your top 5 strengths in order from a list of like 34 and it nailed me pretty well.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Pray For Revolution Church

bobby — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:04:03 -0000

Thanks for everyone's prayers. And thanks for posting Los.

As said above, please pray for the other family involved as well. They are young Christians and are going through hell right now as well.

Being with some of the people from Revolution the past couple of days was pretty heartbreaking and encouraging all at the same time. The leadership is already handling it so great, and so many people in the church are already focusing on Christ and praying like they never have before. God is already at work.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Untrain the Old and Train the Young

bobby — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:02:26 -0000

Nice post dude.
I can't wait for the day I get to see Caleb do that on his own. I'll probably lose it, and I hate doing that, but I still can't wait.
Way to go.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Untrain the Old and Train the Young

bobby — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:27:37 -0000

By the way...being that you did lead worship on Easter, are you ever going to post another confessional, or are you done with those? We miss you! ;)

C'mon Los...confess yourself.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Worship Confessional 43

bobby — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:40:22 -0000

Nice bro. Thanks for sharing. Fun to see some footage of you leading again!

Re: Ragamuffin Readers…What’s Your Day Job?

bobby — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:57:42 -0000

Worship/Connections Pastor in Santa Cruz.

One of those creative guys, but hopefully not TOO churchy.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Buckhead Ping Pong Finals Live - NOW

bobby — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:44:01 -0000

Dang. I keep missing these things.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Buckhead Ping Pong Finals Live - NOW

bobby — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:16:29 -0000

Do you use your Macbook Pro camera to broadcast live, or do you use a different camera. Can't get my iSight camera to work on Mogulus and wondering if it should.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Buckhead Ping Pong Finals Live - NOW

bobby — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:18:08 -0000

Figured it out. Working.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I’m Unplugging

bobby — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:39:25 -0000

Nice. Good for you man. I am impressed.

Hope you enjoyed it. I should try that sometime. Or should I? let us know.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » My Right Arm Is Longer Than Yours

bobby — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:53:31 -0000

I was hoping to be the first to actually ask to get one free if they sponsor you, but Travis beat me to it. But I still want one if you get em. I like free stuff, especially free cool useful stuff. Yes, this qualifies as useful.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Bit The Bullet

bobby — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:53:30 -0000

Nice. I enjoy reading Ben's blog, but wasn't so sure about the conference. Then again, even if I were, I couldn't afford to go anyway.

So, I look forward to hearing about it via you. Maybe you could Mogulus without getting busted! ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A New Day At Ragamuffin Soul - The Conversation Grows

bobby — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:02:35 -0000

Nice feature Los {seesmic_video:{"url_thumbnail":{"value":"http://t.seesmic.com/thumbnail/2cmPVzwfF6_th1.jpg"}"title":{"value":"Nice feature Los "}"videoUri":{"value":"http://www.seesmic.com/video/AiAGUrM2ZP"}}}

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A Day In The Life…

bobby — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:30:39 -0000

Sweet. I really could have used that a few weeks ago when I built our play structure. Instead I have like 15 hours of footage on Mogulus that I need to try and figure out how to get off to speed up.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Average Age Of My Readers

bobby — Fri, 02 May 2008 17:25:03 -0000

Very close. Gimme about a month and you'll be dead on.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » From the Blogging Basement

bobby — Thu, 08 May 2008 11:29:47 -0000

I posted a comment on the original post, and thought it only fair to update my status and those of my family in the world of blogging.

I have now moved comfortably and deep into the evangelist camp. I think I can almost claim Greg Laurie status now, only hindered by perhaps not having the same popularity and audience. So maybe I'm now more like one of the listings in that horrible evangelists directory we got at the last denominational meeting we were at. Don't know still that I will ever hit Billy Graham status, but that is only out of lack of audience, not fervor.

The best part is, my wife has since moved through the believer stage and, dare I say, joined me in ministry as an evangelist. No more blog arguments. It's so great serving together. We have seen most of our immediate and extended families begin to blog and continue to spread the good news among our communities of influence.

Maybe we should all start organizing some blog crusades to get people "saved!" You in?

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Creative Chaos // 10

bobby — Thu, 08 May 2008 11:36:48 -0000

Los:

1. Definitely gonna have to "borrow" some of those ideas/terminology.

2. At some point I'd love to hear you expand on how you've done those successfully over the past 6 months. What has meeting with secular leaders looked like? How have you disturbed those career Christians and is it working? Stuff like that.

Thanks for sharing.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Your POWER Song…

bobby — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:14:08 -0000

So I've been at Spin class every Thursday and a song that kinda gets me pumpin each time, oddly enough-

Avril Lavigne - Girlfriend

I know. Embarassing, but true.

The other one is Low - Flo Rida.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » This Friday Night

bobby — Fri, 09 May 2008 22:27:36 -0000

Midnight movie. Goonies. Scavenger hunt through downtown before hand. Not as meaningful, but should be a whole lot of fun!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Your 6 Word Memoir

bobby — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:23:47 -0000

Worshipper, husband, father, living passionately, community

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Your 6 Word Memoir

bobby — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:28:02 -0000

And I think a few people sound like they may have confused memoir with epitaph. Kinda funny.

Maybe you should have made us all say our six words on Seesmic.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I Ain’t In So Cal No More

bobby — Thu, 15 May 2008 01:27:04 -0000

I'm with Randy up there. It took me about a full minute of thinking about it to figure out the slur.

Until I was 18 and toured with a performing group, I didn't even know the KKK still existed. Thought it was just part of history class. I'm glad I grew up around diversity.

And I have lots of friends from the south, so I know not everyone is like that. But when I was in the south on tour, it was a huge eye opener and made me REALLY angry at the outright racism I saw.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I Ain’t In So Cal No More

bobby — Thu, 15 May 2008 11:26:13 -0000

pinkcamojeep (Karen)-

I guess the biggest question I have about buying the "I didn't mean it that way" from the bar owner is this: if that is the truth, and he's realized that people have taken it as a racial slur, then why is he still selling it? If he doesn't take it off the "shelf", I don't buy it. If he doesn't stop selling, apparently he's ok with the type of publicity. If I'm wrong and he has stopped selling it, then maybe we are wrong and you have a great point.

Interesting sidenote: at a local coffee shop right now and the people behind me are having an interesting conversation about Barack, the presidential race, and racism.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Ragamuffin Soul - The Journalist

bobby — Mon, 19 May 2008 00:22:39 -0000

My question is for Los. Need an assistant? Note taker? Video editor? ;)

Have fun dude. Looking forward to the posts. There's a couple names on there I'd love to just sit down for lunch and hang out with. Not sure what all I'd ask em yet though.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Where’s Home?

bobby — Tue, 20 May 2008 10:50:17 -0000

SoCal. No question.

Especially North Orange and South LA counties.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Rick Warren Is My Friend

bobby — Tue, 20 May 2008 10:57:27 -0000

Is that like being able to say we knew you before you got 50+ comments on most posts? And were part of the Technorati elite? ;)

I think the best thing about relationships like the one you mentioned is being able to appreciate the relationship with the person because they're a great person, not because you want them to get you somewhere because they have connections or a name. I imagine those relationships are few and far between at that level.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » LIVE Summit Team

bobby — Tue, 20 May 2008 10:59:53 -0000

Plannin to get to the office early now to watch that. Can't wait. Thanks Los!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Are We Fat?

bobby — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:13:54 -0000

5'7
168 lbs

Although I just got a new license and it says 155. Soon enough. ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Dear Worship Dude

bobby — Fri, 30 May 2008 19:45:21 -0000

Good reminder.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » If Jesus walked up to you…

bobby — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:08:19 -0000

I'd say the "church" is doing fine. It's us leaders who see how much better it could be and are trying to get them to feel like it's not always fine.

But he's probably been hearing that a lot over the past 2000 years. ;)

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » If Jesus walked up to you…

bobby — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:09:25 -0000

Or maybe it would be more accurate to say we're trying to show them there's something way better than "fine."

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » DEATH and YOU

bobby — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:21:53 -0000

Not afraid of the end game of death. Can genuinely say once I'm good things will be so much better.

But the idea of how I might die, of going through pain, and worse yet the idea of getting old and my body breaking down, that thought scares the crap out of me regularly. I just don't want to deal with the actual going through the process part.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Kill It

bobby — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:51:30 -0000

Adult Sunday School

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » A Defining Moment For Our Church

bobby — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:41:45 -0000

Humbling and frustrating in a way. You guys are willing to end something that by most of our standards is REALLY "working" in order to do the right things. On the other hand, most of our churches are unwilling to change or end the programs that aren't even "working" in the first place because it's really a preferance.

Ouch.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » The Renewed Mind Is The Key To Christ In Me

bobby — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:42:50 -0000

Ya know, the great dance break kinda reminds me of John Travolta trying to dance like Michael Jackson. Just a thought.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Caption Please

bobby — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:40:19 -0000

Discipline by iChat.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » I’ve NEVER Closed Comments On A Post

bobby — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:33:05 -0000

Yeah...wow.

The "funniest" part to me is when it really looks like a certain someone was completely clueless to what some others felt about her comments.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » From The Vault

bobby — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:14:05 -0000

I went with a couple of friends up near Santa Barbara and one of them was just a couple pounds over the limit. He spent an hour or two walking around the parking lot smoking cigarettes and was able to go up.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » My 3 Day Information and Technology Fast

bobby — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:09:18 -0000

Very cool dude, I've been wanting to take even a one day silent retreat for a few years now since my college professor mentioned it. Totally against my nature to be in solitude. I hate it, but I need it.

Looking forward to seeing how God uses it for you. And hopefully one of these days, I'll get around to that personal retreat!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » 10 Reasons I Am Sad To Be In California This Week // C-A-T-A-L-Y-S-T-0-8

bobby — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:46:26 -0000

I'll be there. Would have been cool to catch ya there. And I won't be at Recreate next year, so see ya when I see ya.

Maybe you should just roll out here for Catalyst Cali in April as I have a feeling we'll be finding a way out to that!

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » How Annoying Will It Be To Follow @_____?

bobby — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:29:06 -0000

2.51/4.43
@bmarch

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Who’s Your Randy?

bobby — Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:57:49 -0000

Kinda wish I had one. Not really so much.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » To Catch A Racist

bobby — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:51:26 -0000

I grew up in SoCal. I had biracial friends. 80% of my high school was Philipino. You wouldn't know it by looking at me, but my grandma was 100% hispanic. I never really thought about racism much. When I did, we spoke theoretically. What we thought was racism was really hardly close.

Then I left high school, joined a performing group, and toured the midwest and the south. I was blown away. I seriously never knew the KKK still existed til I was in Ohio. I remember being in Louisianna and my homestay sharing that it was the first year they didn't have a segregated prom. My heart broke as I looked at the way people were treated and viewed, especially in the south.

That just to say I can imagine the difference for you from Riverside to Buckhead. Thanks for sharing your heart. And sure, people can say how we also need to be connected to our culture and everything else. OK, fine. When we can figure out how to treat everyone fairly regardless of culture, then I'll start to worry about whether or not we lost our cultures. Somehow, I doubt it will be a problem.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Praying Backwards // The Streaming Prayer Box

bobby — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:59:26 -0000

Was able to pop in right at the end, just in time to see you drying your eyes. Sorry I wasn't able to be there for the shingig, but I could tell y'all had a pretty awesome time. Good stuff man.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Everything’s Amazing, Nobody’s Happy

bobby — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:28:23 -0000

Dude...that's freaking awesome!! I'm gonna have to repost that!

Re: Can you see?

bobby — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:57:52 -0000

Nice trick to get lots of comments. Maybe I'll try that one too.
;)

Looks like it's holding up so far!

Re: Signs of a Lukewarm Worship Leader

bobby — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:25:37 -0000

I'm kinda with Christopher on this one. The realit is there are lots of great songs out there that often say what needs to be said where we're at. the way it plays out in the current local church is much different in my opinion that the sermon. We're not comparing apples and apples there, imho.

Don't get me wrong. I have been challenged by the call to write songs. i think it can be a great thing and some great songs come out of a need to express a thought that isn't already written into a song. But I don't think it's fair to call that person luke warm.

And I'm not sure about the lazy part either. I think smaller churches are at 2 disadvantages when it comes to wrenching out songs. One is simply amount of people. In a congregation of 100 people, it's very possible that there is not yet a gifted songwriter. Then the question comes in balancing the beauty of personalized worship for the congregation with quality writing and music that will we are often aiming for. That's could be a tough balance on both ends.

The other one is less staffing. It may not be a matter of laziness as much as time. As much as I'd like to be more involved in looking for songs from people and really pushing artists, it does become harder when Worship isn't a pastor's sole responsibility. I don't want to make excuses, but just recognize the time that gets eaten up for me when I am practicing my craft, putting together sets, running life groups, overseeing tech teams, preaching on occasion, organizing events, and leading a short terms mission trip. I'm not trying to whin, I just am always wishing I could do more. But if I do, I will get luke worm cause there's no margin for my own soul. kinda make sense? Or am I just rambling?

Re: Purpose Driven Lunch

bobby — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:32:33 -0000

Aww, cmon now Vic, you got a free lunch! ;) And Rich and the guys didn't join us Thursday. The glass is half full my friend!

Alex - Glad you all made it out! It was great to hang out.

Re: Journey to the Darkside is Complete

bobby — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:11:12 -0000

Please note: "Designed by Apple in [Northern] California". (Cupertino) ;)

Very nice. Congrats. Is it the 2.2G or the 2.4G?

Re: Journey to the Darkside is Complete

bobby — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:57:28 -0000

Click the Apple -> About this Mac

Re: Aviom is here!

bobby — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:17:17 -0000

I'm jealous. I have a quote on some, but I'm still trying to sell the stinkin board on them Someday...

Re: Mac vs. PC: Round 2

bobby — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:55:03 -0000

At my last church I had a Macbook Pro and an iMac video editing station in my office. My lead pastor had a Macbook Pro too. Try using that little remote when you have more than one computer in an office. They both read it, and who knows what you'll end up playing from the other computer!

Re: Wife Swap

bobby — Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:19:30 -0000

Saw that episode. They all kinda run together in my head, but I definitely remember the crazy fairy lady worshiping the tree.

As a sidenote, I saw online just last week that they are casting families for that right now. C'mon Alex! It's all you! ;)

Re: Re-Branding

bobby — Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:28:50 -0000

Well, honestly, I think I'm just not a huge fan of those leaves. The rest is cool. I like the burnt orange and what not. But with the leaves, it doesn't look nearly as current in my opinion. It makes me think of a bit more conservative crowd than what I know you have there.

Maybe if the "plant look" were a little more rugged or textured. Maybe using something similar to the floral pattern in the first one. Just some thoughts. But remember, I'm not a graphic designer at all!

Re: Pet Peeve

bobby — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:17:05 -0000

Ok...they're hardly "hogging." I guess it used to bug me a little, then I started riding my bike to work. You can handle waiting a minute or two to go around them. ;)

Re: Pet Peeve

bobby — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:05:07 -0000

From what I see un the video, there is no bike lane. If there is, by all means use it. As far as the sidewalk, I believe that's technically illegal. Bikers are upposed to use the road.

Man, maybe this environmentally friendly, hippie filled, share the road town of Santa Cruz has changed me a little already! ;)

Re: Pet Peeve

bobby — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:33:21 -0000

Dude!! I just watched the video again and all of a sudden I realize what you were talking about. I agree with you totally! Spandex is definitely a pet peeve of mine. Especially on fat people. ;)

Re: A couple projects I’m working on

bobby — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:31:13 -0000

Yeah...thanks for the sketches. I'm actually in the process of revamping our welcome gift/kits. That gives me some thoughts. We should iChat or somethin.

And BTW...when are you going to get your lead pastor blogging?

Re: Preaching this Weekend

bobby — Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:23:28 -0000

Yeah, I always feel that same pressure to go really, really good. I always feel like I shouls be one of the best at everything for some reason. Same way with sports.

But why do we expect to be so great when we only do it once in awhile? I don't expect someone would become a really "great" Worship leader doing it only once every 2 or 3 months either. The more you get to do it, the better you typically are, eh?

So relax and have a great time being used by God this weekend. At least for me, I know God always does good stuff in those mornings and each time I learn a lot to make it even better next time!

Re: Life Church got Served!

bobby — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:48:47 -0000

I don't really have a problem with reviewing churches necessarily, but we should keep in mind the source. I read his review of you guys and Sunridge, and the good news is, he doesn't really sound like your target.

Personally, I prefer going to the church with the louder music. And he (or she) sounds pretty "Calvary Chapel" if you know what I mean...which would kinda make sense in that valley.

Re: Countdown Creator

bobby — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:56:02 -0000

I think we're gonna give this a try. Thanks for the resource.

Re: Life Church got Served!

bobby — Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:10:09 -0000

OK, I looked at the site a bit, and I've changed my mind about not really having a problem with reviewing. In this case I do. I'm not usually one to be a jerk, but I will be for a sec. This guy seems like a bit of a tool and pretty judgmental really.

I say guy because unfortunately we are usually worse about this. Probably a Bible College student or something. ;) (I decided I can make that generalization as I did a short stint there.)

Re: Life Church got Served!

bobby — Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:59:39 -0000

Gnice. And the dude's a pastor at a church in Temecula. Great Oak Church. How did you know that Vince?

Re: The Office: Dunder Mifflen Infinity

bobby — Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:51:44 -0000

You know what was kinda funny and kinda weird about this episode? I saw these odd parallels to our church in a way. We're in the process of sharing vision and moving forward. And I think some of the older people worry that it's like we're going against anything traditional at times.

I know. Too deep for a comedy. Just found it interesting. made me think.

Re: 25 Skills Every Man Should Know

bobby — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:52:57 -0000

1. Patch a radiator hose - ha. No way.
2. Protect your computer - sure
3. Rescue a boater who has capsized - I think so.
4. Frame a wall - Psshh...no.
5. Retouch digital photos - Umm...kinda, sure.
6. Back up a trailer - yeah (didn't say without hitting something on occasion)
7. Build a campfire - heck yeah.
8. Fix a dead outlet - maybe? i'll say yes.
9. Navigate with a map and compass - I was a boy scout...yeah.
10. Use a torque wrench - sure
11. Sharpen a knife - I guess so
12. Perform CPR - Yes...I was a lifeguard
13. Filet a fish - Nope
14. Maneuver a car out of a skid - Done it before
15. Get a car unstuck - Done that too, with help.
16. Back up data - I don't, I can, I should.
17. Paint a room -Well? Yeah, I can do that.
18. Mix concrete - Don't they have machines for that? i could follow directions. OK - no.
19. Clean a bolt-action rifle - no
20. Change oil and filter - Someone showed me how in high school. no.
21. Hook up an HDTV - Haven't, but I'm sure I could.
22. Bleed brakes - didn't know they had veins
23. Paddle a canoe - Oh yeah...had my canoing merit badge
24. Fix a bike flat - Shoot I need to do that. So I'll learn soon. So in advance, yes.
25. Extend your wireless network - sure

A shaky 18 of 25.
Please don't revoke my man card.
I'll kick your a&$ if you do. Hey, why isn't that on the list?

Re: Physical Appearance & Hiring

bobby — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:09:04 -0000

Dude, you're kinda hittin a sore subject for me. I can fill you in on the details personally sometime if you want.

Point is, I think there is a line in what matters about appearance and how important it is. And above all, there is a need to be honest up front. I agree with Matthew that they should come to an interview presentable. But as far as "style", that's where I think it gets shady.

I want to do my best to look good in front of people. But for me, I want to be able to be myself. When I look at Chris' situation, it made sense not hiring someone who didn't fit in. But I don't think that is a poor reflection of his heart as was insinuated. God has given him the giftings and personality to reach people as the person he is. Hopefully he walked away not wanting to work there as well.

So I guess it all depends on the culture of your church. I could go on, but I'll stop there. you get the gist.

Re: Can/Should a Woman Lead Worship?

bobby — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:04:17 -0000

Back to Matthews comment, the second one. Sometimes, when I hear Shout To The Lord, I do wish someone had told Darlene she shouldn't lead worship. ;)

That was a joke. Please don't take me too seriously.

Re: Goose Egg!

bobby — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:18:07 -0000

I am not looking forward to when Caleb starts getting those. I'm gonna be the lamest dad always worrying about my son getting hurt. I already freak out more than my wife if I think he could hurt himself doing something. Kinda embarassing actually.

Re: Vocabulary

bobby — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:29:27 -0000

Not too much with that one, but with other churchy words. Like I always feel weird referring to our body as the congregation. I don't give the sermon. I share the message for that morning. And should I call it a bulleitin? Program feels too performancy. How about worship guide?

But oddly enough, the one I hate the most is when I hear other people refer to me as "Pastor Bobby." I'm just Bobby darn it. I don't go around calling other people, "stay at home mom Janet" or "student Katie" or "Dental Hygenist John." Random. Done.

Re: The Best of Halloween

bobby — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:52:24 -0000

We had fun going to a couple different city events. But after a little sugar, Caleb was up screaming like every hour or so!

Thanks for the posts you referenced. Really good thoughts there. May need to reciprocate some love from my blog.

Re: Google Reader Kicked my Butt!

bobby — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:53:39 -0000

I must say...I'm honored to have the 100% read mark. ;)

Re: Confrontation & Hot Buttons

bobby — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 22:56:59 -0000

Yeah, I've heard about those red-headed Irishman tempers. ;)

Re: The Season of Giving is upon Me

bobby — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:24:24 -0000

Got Guitar Hero 3...oh yeah!

Re: Joel from Survivor: Micronesia - Fans Vs. Favorites

bobby — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:52:38 -0000

Dude! I said the EXACT same thing to my friend last night as we watched Survivor!

Re: Lazy Sunday

bobby — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:24:04 -0000

Dude, that is pretty sic. I like.

Re: Christian School, Public School, or Home School?

bobby — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:52:05 -0000

You said kids "should" get their morals and ideas from home. I'd go a step further and say that one way or another, they will. Even if their in a school all day, the home is the greatest reality they know.

I think public school is in fact more work for parents than the other two options. It means sitting down regularly to find out what their learning and help them to see what their doing from a Christian worldview. But I just can't see the benefit in removing all the Christ followers from public schools and removing all the salt and light, parent involvement included.

Re: I got hit by a Truck!

bobby — Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:44:08 -0000

How you feel?

Re: We’re Unplugged!

bobby — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:54:06 -0000

We've been back to just the rabbit ears on the tv for a while now. It's actually kinda nice. You'll find out you don't really need it nearly as much as you think.

And no worries, we watch LOST every Friday online.

Re: Weekend Rewind Easter 08

bobby — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:28:13 -0000

Thanks for the linkage bro...glad you enjoyed the vid.

And glad you had a great Easter! Now take a break - I'm sure you earned it!!! ;)

Re: Church Offices

bobby — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:36:13 -0000

I agree with em. We had offices at Revolution, and the truth is I would get more done there than when I stayed home. Maybe that's just me.

But it also created a synergy among the staff that couldn't have been there without being in the trenches right next to each other every day. What got really crazy was when there were four of us sharing half of a single wide trailer. Thanks goodness we finally got a real office with some space!

Re: National Day of Prayer

bobby — Fri, 02 May 2008 23:43:41 -0000

Good stuff. Monty married Rachel and I. He has been a mentor of mine and is a pretty incredible guy. I attribute me going back into ministry to his encouragement. Hope the rest enjoyed him!

Re: Chapman Family Tragedy

bobby — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:56:03 -0000

Thanks for the link. Rough situation man. Definitely praying for that family. Can't imagine being in their shoes.

Re: Will Jesus Come back to ATL First?

bobby — Sun, 25 May 2008 17:06:57 -0000

Well these guys both used to be at Northpoint a lot. So my question is, according to Ed Young, would they be church pirates?? Arrrr!

Re: Church Planters = Church Pirates?

bobby — Sun, 25 May 2008 17:18:07 -0000

OK, truly, that video just tweaked me like no other. like you said, it definitely came out of some of his own pain, but I agreed with very little of what he said.

And sorry to say it, but it's hard to hear it from a guy with a church as big as his. He talks about people building their own kingdoms within a church, but is his kingdom so important that a group can't go out in the area and do something else of God that they feel is of The Kingdom? Maybe if pastors were able to see more of the need around them and the fact that we don't need to limit the number of churches in area, since we're really not in competition (this isn't the corporate world in many ways) then they would bless these people and send them out.

And by the way, I get so irritated at the whole "sheep stealing" mentality. Yes we are called shepherds. Yes people are referred to as sheep. But they aren't quite as stupid. Last time I check, people had their own brains and were able to decide for themselves where Christ is leading them.

And just for the record, yes Ed, I have been a part of an experience that would qualify.

Re: Macy Update 6.12.08

bobby — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:24:13 -0000

Oh man. tough. I'm praying for you guys.

Re: Arrrgh Maties!

bobby — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:06:00 -0000

Still not a fan of the video, but I did think he was much better spoken here. Less catch phrases that really turned me off and what not. Maybe it was less emotional in writing and so it didn't come off quite as sour. I dunno.

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Re: PDWC, I was There (sort of)

bobby — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:25:00 -0000

Dude...get your freaking ear out of my face!!

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Re: Pastors & Homosexuality

bobby — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:45:30 -0000

Hmmm. Interesting I guess. Not sure what category he wants to box me into. What about those of us who have no problem fighting for and standing for biblical truth, but aren't convinced yet that legislating my beliefs onto others through a ballot is the way to do that.

A bit different that Peter and John in Acts if you ask me. I still just struggle with the fact that it really is a legal issue the way I see it more than a spiritual issue. As of now, no authorities will come knock down our doors cause we refuse to marry homosexuals in our church. That would be a different story.

Click on my name here for an interesting discussion on the issue over at my blog.

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Re: What Makes a Great Sing-a-long?

bobby — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:05:48 -0000

Hmm. I think I have too many thoughts to share! Let me try quickly.
Billy-agree. Tom Petty plays it every night, but it is for a different crowd every night.
Billy-disagree. "Fact: If church was less frequent, people would participate more." I don't think it really translates over the same way.
Timothy - disagree. I've seen worship leaders who go there without a problem, but they don't bring anyone else with them. You gotta do more. It's not a private worship time. It's just different.
Rich - Amen. It is worth it.

This concept is part of why I actually try to do hymns more often than I used to now. Our church is multigenerational. The hymns are updated, but people where I'm at love them. They aren't my #1 choice, but it isn't all about me. That's actually been a tough one to get past.

But I don't think the pendulum can swing the other way either. I have seen leaders do a song so often that people in the church wanted to puke when they heard it after a while. Open The Eyes is a good example for some people I know. God does say to sing a new song as well. I dont want to get stuck playing mid 90's "choruses" every week when there are so many great new expressions out there to share also. As with everything, balance.

And I think you could probably write a whole other post on...wait...nevermind. Maybe I'll do that! ;)

Thanks for the great thought provoking posts!

Re: No More Bernie Mac?

bobby — Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:22:41 -0000

What? Bernie Mac is dead? how did that happen? Time to swing by Google. And we just watched Pride the other night. Great movie. Bummer.

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Re: Who Should I Vote For?

bobby — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:08:29 -0000

I hate to say it, but the frustrating part to me is it doesn't REALLY matter who you vote for. California's electoral votes will all go to Obama. I know, kinda cynical. But true. I'll still vote for McCain though, just feels like I'm throwing a vote away, ya know?

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Re: New Study Bible & The Shack

bobby — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:12:47 -0000

Yeah dude. I haven't read it, but just take it for what it is I guess. The guy is an artist. We see things differently sometimes. That doesn't mean we call it theological truth. So quick we are sometimes to shout out heresy. It's an artistic expression of one guys experience. Lay off a bit.

And yeah, the bummer is, I have a lot of respect for Driscoll as well. Unfortunately I tend to hold less weight to any guy with a Calvary Chapel dove on the stage, but blame that on my own past experiences and perceptions. ;)

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Re: Apple Supports No on Prop 8 - betterthanblank

bobby — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:49:27 -0000

I've been pretty torn on the prop for a while. Both sides have a case from my point of view. The church because the reality is what it is from God's perspective, and gay marriage is wrong. However, so is marriage between two people who are not devoted to Christ for that matter. It's more of a religion issue than a state issue I think at times.

However, I do have a question about something you mentioned about your friend. You see, one of the things I have understood is that civil unions, which are currently legal, share all of the legal benefits of marriage. If that is so, it sounds like your friends could have made that step and he should receive some sort of benefit. So my question is, did they choose not to enter into civil union, or is what I have heard incorrect?

Re: Who I Should Vote for.

bobby — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:46:59 -0000

Hmmm. Interesting.

1. John McCain (72%)
2. Bob Barr (69%)
3. Barack Obama (53%)

I knew I was voting for McCain, but I'm surprised to agree with him that much. I saw him more as the much lesser of two evils, although I have liked him more and more as times gone on.

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Re: Let’s get ready to Rrrrrrrrrrummmmmble! - betterthanblank

bobby — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:48:46 -0000

Yo add one more link for people, here's a Google doc from a pastor who's blog I read: http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhhvvz9n_9dm9...

It's a small group of pastors from L.A. that got together to do some research and give some info on all the props.

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Re: A New Day - betterthanblank

bobby — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:01:45 -0000

Thanks for the link!

But can you do me a favor? Please put your entire posts in my RSS reader!! Because of that I only read like half the posts I used to. Just sayin. ;)

Re: CommentLuv or Disqus? - betterthanblank

bobby — Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:30:33 -0000

My vote is commentluv

Re: Blog Bottleneck

bobby — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:51:49 -0000

I'm with ya. Plenty to blog about, no time/energy to blog. But i'm falling behind on writing AND reading!

And I'm with James on eschatology. Not sure how important it really is to daily ministry. Jesus will come back. So live like it could be tomorrow. Or as a reformed friend told me years ago in the whole pretrib/posttrib debate - live for post, pray for pre!

Re: Blog Bottleneck

bobby — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 12:52:51 -0000

Oops. That reply to Rich was supposed to be a comment. Not used to the whole disqus thang. I still vote for comment luv.

Re: How long does it take 4 McLean’s to setup a Tree?

bobby — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:51:35 -0000

Fun. And no offense, but I still think fake trees are somehow unamerican. ;)

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=875

bobby — Wed, 23 May 2007 16:05:57 -0000

Ahh, bummer dude. Does that mean you owe your sponsors this week? ;)

And where's the video action man?

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=879

bobby — Thu, 24 May 2007 20:12:27 -0000

Makes sense to me! Enjoy the ride...and the exercise!

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=895

bobby — Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:58:16 -0000

I was thinking the same thing. You're almost past that big 200 you wanted to beat. Keep up the good work bro!

Looks like it's just the four of us raisin the funds at this point!

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=981

bobby — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:48:31 -0000

In case you wanna cheat, here ya go:
http://www.dabontv.com/game382cheats.html

I made it to 66 before googling that (and wasted way too much time). Even with it I still haven't made it through!

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=987

bobby — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:20:00 -0000

Dude, that rocks. It makes me wanna take a trip to VA!

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=1013

bobby — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:28:41 -0000

Ouch. Thanks a lot. I'm gonna go home early and read some Psalms with my wife.

Re: http://transitionpete.org/?p=1135

bobby — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:09:30 -0000

115...on the third.

Re: Worship Leader Wednesday #10 | Consuming Worship

bobby — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:27:42 -0000

Love Rich! Great interview!

Re: iTunes Top 25 | Consuming Worship

bobby — Wed, 21 May 2008 22:59:49 -0000

Nice. Thanks for joining!

And yay for United! ;)

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Re: Worship Pop Stars and a Celebrity Church Culture??

bobby — Sat, 09 Feb 2008 04:41:38 -0000

Thanks for hangin with us at Recreate this past week. It was great getting to share some time worshipping with you. Will definitely add you to my reader too.

As far as the celebrity thing, not much of an answer except to say yeah, it's an issue. First time I really noticed how much it bugged me was a YouTube video from a United concert. As the arena was going nuts before they started to even play, something inside me just didn't feel right. For some reason, it didn't seem like it was really directed toward Jesus.

Then again, maybe I was just really jealous cause I wasn't able to be there. ;)

Re: A Big British “Hooray” for the iPhone!!

bobby — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:45:59 -0000

I'm at an Assemblies of God church. Reason? I'm gonna sound so lame and shallow. Because that's the church that hired me. Fact is, I'm not really all that loyal to denomination. I've worked in an RCA church (Reformed Church In America), this church, and non-denominational/formerly vineyard church. I've attended Calvary chapel, non-denom, was baptized Catholic, and saved at United Methodist.

Value? I think denominations can be a good thing for support, and being a part of a "tribe" that you can do ministry with. The over-emphasis of denomination and fighting over non-essentials is an issue.

Beyond the value for doing ministry you get into a whole different ballgame. For the most part I don't think denominations are useful for the average church-goer today. People no longer move into a community and look for the church of their denomination I think. They move into a community and look for the church where God is at work and they can join that work, as I think is the best case scenario, or the church that just fits their preference regardless of denomination.

As a side-note, while denominations can be helpful for the most part for the church itself, too many denominations still operate with archaic structures of leadership and government. They have failed to contextualize over the years and I think this has caused the continuing decline of most mainline denominations.

Re: What Did The Fedex Truck Deliver Today??

bobby — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:42:07 -0000

I love James. Straight to the point. Not holding back any punches. Beginning is the best. life sucks sometimes. Endure.

And of course 1 Chronicles. I mean come on. It's got the prayer of Jabez!!! (That's facetious if you missed it, by the way!)

Re: Photos from Vacaville CA!

bobby — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:07:40 -0000

Bummer. Had I known you were playing in Norcal, I might have tried to make it out. Oh well. Hopefully next time.

Re: Encouraging Note from “My Worship Revolution”.com!

bobby — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:54:05 -0000

Thanks for the linkage, and thanks for stopping by!

Hopefully I'll catch a show next time you're in the NorCal area, or when I'm down in SD.

Re: American Idol - Shout to the Lord

bobby — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:48:03 -0000

My honest thoughts. Cool that they did a worship song, but at the same time, I really wish they had picked a better one! Sorry to all who love it, but it's a bit mid 90s and played out. But hey, better something than nothing I guess.

Although I also had this thought just occur to me for the first time. By having the song on there, on a network and show that definitely isn't "Christ-following", does it add to the idea that America is a "Christian" nation and if you believe in God, you're pretty much a Christian? Could it cheapen worship at all? Not saying that's my opinion, honestly, but could be an interesting point of discussion. Food for thought.

Re: It’s Official - Re:create 2009

bobby — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:46:04 -0000

I hate you all.
OK. Not really. Just would have been nice to be there and to finally get to meet you dude.

Been for the past 2 years. Having a baby this year. You'll love it. Can't wait to read about it here!

Re: Christmas Carols - To Sing or Not to Sing

bobby — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:57:12 -0000

well, I'm kinda with you. I hate Christmas carols, and I really don't care for them as worship. However, (1) people do like to hear them at Christmas services and (2) there are some that I have found to be more worshipful than others.

I guess the key for me is to try to find fresh arrangements of the songs, and also to pick the songs that are really Christ centered and put them in a place where they lend to the flow of worship. For me I have found some of those to be O Come All Ye Faithful, O Come Emmanuel, What Child Is This, and even some arrangements of Joy To The World.

Some of those also have really profound verses and choruses that we don't typically sing during the regular holiday caroling.

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