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1 month ago
in Coal, Electric Industries Big Winners in Climate Bill Deal on The Washington Independent
Trends are trends, and the 10 year trend matches what I wrote. And whatever the economy has been doing (until the last 6 months) it wasn't limping! Note that I'm not denying AGW, just not happy with the recent data. You didn't answer my question, however: what data would constitute a falsification?
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1 month ago
in Coal, Electric Industries Big Winners in Climate Bill Deal on The Washington Independent
While it's true that temps since the late 90's have not reverted to their long-term average, it's also true that they haven't continued to increase. That seems bizarre, given that the level of GHG emissions has exploded since then, significantly exceeding the IPCC's pessimistic hypothesis. It's also true that the error bars on GCM's are so broad that even a ten-year long kink in the curve doesn't disprove the AGW hypothesis. However, it does raise the question - what data WOULD it take to disprove AGW?
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Bob
Yes, they have increased.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2...
Except for 1998, which was unusually warm because of "the El Nino of the Century", note that all the temperatures in this decade (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008) have been warmer than all the temperatures of the 1990's. Can you follow along so far ?
The CO2 levels, which are the bulk of GHG's, are rising inexorably. They only exceed the IPCC's 'worst case scenario' because the IPCC thought the planet would react more rationally to the problem and start to limit the increase by now, not *increase* the rate of increase. The science remains solid: more CO2 will inexorably force warming of the climate. Which is measured, every decade. Arctic ice cover: measured, every decade, melting away. The models are just there to predict what *will* happen so we have time to take corrective action.
If you plot your annual average of the time it takes you to run 1 mile, vs. your age, it does not necessarily rise linearly, smoothly. One year you might be injured, you have to limp. Another year, you might be training every week, it goes down. But make no mistake, you are getting older every year, your times will rise, and when you hit your 60's, 70's, 80's they will get longer and longer. Eventually you will die. But the curve need not be smooth and linearly rising; that doesn't change the underlying *facts*. Welcome to the messy world of data.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2...
Except for 1998, which was unusually warm because of "the El Nino of the Century", note that all the temperatures in this decade (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008) have been warmer than all the temperatures of the 1990's. Can you follow along so far ?
The CO2 levels, which are the bulk of GHG's, are rising inexorably. They only exceed the IPCC's 'worst case scenario' because the IPCC thought the planet would react more rationally to the problem and start to limit the increase by now, not *increase* the rate of increase. The science remains solid: more CO2 will inexorably force warming of the climate. Which is measured, every decade. Arctic ice cover: measured, every decade, melting away. The models are just there to predict what *will* happen so we have time to take corrective action.
If you plot your annual average of the time it takes you to run 1 mile, vs. your age, it does not necessarily rise linearly, smoothly. One year you might be injured, you have to limp. Another year, you might be training every week, it goes down. But make no mistake, you are getting older every year, your times will rise, and when you hit your 60's, 70's, 80's they will get longer and longer. Eventually you will die. But the curve need not be smooth and linearly rising; that doesn't change the underlying *facts*. Welcome to the messy world of data.
1 month ago
in Coal, Electric Industries Big Winners in Climate Bill Deal on The Washington Independent
The US isn't ready to significantly cut its carbon usage. As this article describes, effective legislation, even under a filibuster-proof Democrat majority, is unpassable.
The only way to substantially cut carbon is to go with renewables that are cheaper than carbon. The closest in time and scalability appears to be next-gen nuclear. The others are a few breakthroughs away. Washington should be dumping a lot more money into research. My favorite project that could use a lot more money is the Polywell fusion research that's living on crumbs, even though it might (or might not, TBD) allow us effectively unlimited energy with 0 pollution of any kind.
The only way to substantially cut carbon is to go with renewables that are cheaper than carbon. The closest in time and scalability appears to be next-gen nuclear. The others are a few breakthroughs away. Washington should be dumping a lot more money into research. My favorite project that could use a lot more money is the Polywell fusion research that's living on crumbs, even though it might (or might not, TBD) allow us effectively unlimited energy with 0 pollution of any kind.
10 months ago
in Debating Global Warming Policy on Will Wilkinson
I hate it when arguers don't respond to each other's points; that is, when they bring up other points. That is a signal failing of the Cato discussion (and so many others).
Give me closure!
Give me closure!
11 months ago
in The “Annually Appropriated/Authorized Until Revised” Spending Distinction on Will Wilkinson
If seniors will consume approximately the same amount of goods and services whether they are spending money we forced them to save or spending money that is taken from the next generation of earners, how much does the financing really matter? We aren't stuffing medicine under our mattresses for when we're old and can't afford it.
Isn't the primary concern about incentives? I.e. that workers today will somehow mess up the economy by spending too much/investing too little? Or that workers tomorrow will not work hard because their taxes are too high? Or that seniors tomorrow will waste resources that they don't have to pay for directly?
Isn't the primary concern about incentives? I.e. that workers today will somehow mess up the economy by spending too much/investing too little? Or that workers tomorrow will not work hard because their taxes are too high? Or that seniors tomorrow will waste resources that they don't have to pay for directly?
11 months ago
in After Heller on Will Wilkinson
The question is whether Heller neutralizes the political potency of the issue. I don't see a dramatic change, but if the regulators don't overstep, I see it fading.
12 months ago
in Tim Lee on Patriotism on Will Wilkinson
I feel incredibly lucky to live in the place that best (albeit imperfectly) embodies my ideals and that does so better than any country in history.
Note that Bush has said over and over that "that liberty is not an American invention but the common heritage of mankind" and he is right.
Note that Bush has said over and over that "that liberty is not an American invention but the common heritage of mankind" and he is right.
So you could talk about evidence refuting a hypothesis that the true sensitivity exceeds 2 C, for instance. Because it is early in the warming process, it would take many years for statistically compelling evidence to emerge if it were true. See:
http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2008/05/fals...
In particular, the ten year record starting in 1998 is simply cherry picked. A fair look at the data rather than one based in wishful thinking shows that the "cooling phase" is simply an artifact. The world warmed from 1997-2007 in exactly the sense that it "cooled" from 1998-2008; this shows that ten year intervals are not a good way to look at the data. See:
http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2009/03/and-...