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Re: http://lis.tumblr.com/post/59329143

jordan fowler — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:00:39 -0000

Sure but for the rental fee, my emotional pain and duress charge for my separation from it and shipping you could buy one for yourself...hahah.
Seriously, it is so worth it.

Re: Michael Jordan and Iraq

jordan fowler — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:14:39 -0000

I disagree a bit with the separation of the movements into distinct parts which founds the basis for the metaphor to function. Those were not subsequent plans but simultaneous plans that were not communicated until their time was come.

You honestly believe that we first intended to go in and remove WMD but let Sadaam stay in power and not use to opportunity to try to gain a ME friend? That is a bit far fetched.

Was it prudent...I am not so sure. Were they farsighted in the post-invasion environment? Definitely.

This is an oversimplification based upon the observers perception and not the agent's intentionality. Michael Jordan from day one intended to "play to 100" whether Michael Jordan/USA stated it or not.

Re: May I Have This Dance?

jordan fowler — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:18:33 -0000

As a dad of three (two girls and one mischevious boy who will probably and hopefully get lectured by his date's dads strongly), have you considered starting your own Protestant Convent?

Re: Go Back in Time for Encouragement

jordan fowler — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:13:13 -0000

If I did old enough workouts, I would weep. I used to run like the wind. I found a workout log the other day on a bookshelf that had stupid stuff like 12x400 meters at <65 sec with equal recovery. One of those would make me go see Jesus today! So, go back a few months, never go back 10 years...yikes!

Re: Let’s Go To The Fair…

jordan fowler — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:09:17 -0000

Ahhh twitter, the biggest Kingdom time waster ever invented. Hahaha.

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Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Ragamuffin Soul

jordan fowler — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:30:42 -0000

It makes me think that I am like that stale, 2 day old blueberry muffin that is all crumbly and stuff without God's provision of grace to moisten me back up. Okay, kidding about that first metaphor.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » Cracked

jordan fowler — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:16:30 -0000

I HATE cell phones. When I want to be alone and think I want to be alone and think (even if you turn it off and people know you have one they think you are rude). I finally managed to answer mine so poorly that work and wife said, "we aren't wasting our money to pay for your cell phone." YES YES YES. (that was about 6 years ago).

Then this year my wife got a special "deal" where she got two phones and I got one as a "present." CRUD CRUD CRUD....

but now you guys gave me some great ways to get rid of it forever. thanks.

Re: Ragamuffin Soul » SHUT UP!!!!!!!

jordan fowler — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:10:55 -0000

We have done a corporate poetic reading of entire service using worship songs sans melody. It was powerful. However I would not dissuade the vitality of music as a gift of God towards our worship. To paraphrase J. Edwards in a modernizing sense:

We sing in worship to engage and express our affections. There is no other reason to sing. If we aren’t dealing with our affections in worship, we might as well just read the lines of the songs dryly together in paragraph form without any music. We worship with music to because God has created music with a certain nature where it tends to move our affections deeply.

Re: America’s got (no) Talent

jordan fowler — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:17:23 -0000

The girl from Austin who used to have palsy could flat out get after it vocally though (okay she could have left off the growl technique, but other than that).

Re: Media Tip: Make those screens Pop! part 1 of 3

jordan fowler — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:07:35 -0000

sometimes punctuation is needed for clarity especially when quotation marks are used or a question mark reveals that a line is not stating but questioning

(start slide two)
as a graphics designer i would kill the centering if you look in applied arts or communicative arts at all the winning layouts the trend of moment is to not center very often

(start slide 3)
i would use a subtle non-moving background to reinforce the metaphor that will be communicated through the word preached very subtle of course

(start slide 4)
mix it up. we did an ancient feeling series and so we used a reformational printing pressed look including large initial cap on each slide and press fonts

(have i made the case to sometimes use punctuation sometimes at least)

www.worshiptrench.com
crawl in. get dirty. serve the body.

Re: Media Tip: Make those screens Pop! part 1 of 3

jordan fowler — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:09:26 -0000

oh yeah (slide 5) and if you have not removed comic sans from your font list you should

it is the first thing all designers do and they mock layouts using that dreaded font

Re: Need Your Input

jordan fowler — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:44:13 -0000

Get an albino iguana from any street side pet vendor that sells South American exotics. Carefully hold the iguana by the tale and gently swing it, head down, to where the crown of its head orbits your computer monitor seven times in a CLOCKWISE (that is important) direction. We've found that this solves almost all of our wordpress problems AND there is nothing like a nice iguana sandwich amongst the boys as we stand back and admire our blogs functionality.

(seriously, i'll ask Cristian, our Chilean Web Guru...he should know).

Re: Media Tip: Make those screens Pop! part 1 of 3

jordan fowler — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:52:05 -0000

There are reasons books are not centered...legibility. Just try it once on a layout...you might like it. I'll try to throw up some samples

In the total antithesis and to get really freaky, you'll lose some legibility LEFT justify a week...very nice.

Re: We’re the Best Church Ever (Worship Confessional 20)

jordan fowler — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:37:25 -0000

You should make that guy play a POD...oh that would be sooooo wrong. As a guy who did church plants with portable systems, you'll love the day you get array's.
But then worship IS more than technical achievement. It's an achievement of the realization that through the cross, God is present and initiating His worship. But I think He likes it at about 103db.

Re: Recording Church

jordan fowler — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:21:32 -0000

We use a cd recorder (tascam) and finalize them in the deck so we can immediately run them out to a duplicator and have a 5 minute turnaround for instant availability by the time people walk out of service. Then we edit it down and fly it up on the webpage. Never had a failure yet with the Tascam unless we got a bad disk. Since we record both service and are going to tape we got some kind of way to get it to the computer as it is highly doubtful all four recording attempts could fail.

Re: Graphic Design Confessional

jordan fowler — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:13:15 -0000

Hey, love the concept behind the first two. Very clean yet the metaphor really works. Good insight.

jordan fowlers last blog post..Shift Happens. An Amazing Video.

Re: My First MLS Game!

jordan fowler — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:05:23 -0000

You need to try a World Cup game if you really want to see crazy. I went in 94 when it was in the US. I have also been to a couple of matches in England. Be warned and bring a spiked bat and some mace, but be ready for some serious fun. GO FC DALLAS!

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Re: Bryan McLaren writes on Evangelism

jordan fowler — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:10:28 -0000

Here are a few more...

1. actually believe there are some objective answers to some questions.
2. affirm the substitutionary atonement

Bryan is a cool hang. I've eaten at a Vegan restaurant with him and Andrew Jones in St. Louis at a conference we both spoke/lead worship at. I just really have disagreement with some of his conclusions. Try reading, Why We are Not Emergent By Two Guys Who Should Be as a nice (and really funny) counter read.

jordan fowlers last blog post..Why is my self worth so tied to my technorati rating?

Re: Not so Random Video: Beer Run

jordan fowler — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:40:45 -0000

My fav part is when they are playing the lyric I Can't Drive 55 and do the very subtle shot of the speedometer at barely breaking 40.

Oh yeah, and who sings the beer run song, gotta get me some of that on itunes....very texan of me.

jordans last blog post..A Great Below the Radar Worship Project From Sovereign Grace

Re: Oops, I Don’t Have Terminal Cancer!

jordan fowler — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:26:44 -0000

copied over from my post:

There are days I am grateful that God designed me a little more “head-wired” than “heart-wired.” I don’t mean that faith is all mental with no heart, but I tend to live more out of a “biblical rationality” (ala the Puritans and Westminster Confession) than the buzz of current experience, though I do have experiences with God. Sometimes I hear of other’s ever present mountaintop or mystical experiences and get a bit jealous God didn’t wire me differently. Then day’s like this, I don’t. Steady, obedient and even keel, even if it is a bit less glamorous…

As to the song itself, one thing is always true. We ALL get healed in the Resurrection….PERIOD!!!

jordan fowlers last blog post..Healer Song Story Possibly a Fraud? Michael Guglielmucci Lied About Cancer?

Re: Shhhhhhh!

jordan fowler — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:14:37 -0000

Run the Star Wars theme into the restroom usage...Lincoln Brewster told me he did that.

One was called C3PeeHole
I just had an idea, the other one you could call Poobaca.

Hahaha.

jordan fowlers last blog post..Jonathan Edwards Quote on Music

Re: More Spiders…

jordan fowler — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:32:35 -0000

Dude, that looks very brown recluse -ish. Careful. I was bitten by one in Cross Country meet in High School and had ramifications for weeks (fever, wound rot, etc.).

Re: What Kind of Leader Are You?

jordan fowler — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:57:59 -0000

Their are also inherent problems with each style....

The relational leader can struggle to lead beyond the relationships he/she can maintain.

The visionary leader has the least trouble as long as he/she can communicate the vision clearly. I have seen them struggle here being a Van Gogh or Picasso in a Rembrandt world.

The administrative leader may get so entrenched in systems and processes that they lose the larger question of "What do we do next and how many resources do we apply to it?"

I don't know if I would separate out innovative leaders as a true style. Mintzberg (in Drucker's Leading for Innovation) deems "innovation" by its very definition does not mean doing an old thing a new way. That is merely "adaption." (Example: a wenkal engine is still a gas powered engine, not innovative, just adaptive.)

Most people we would deem great adaptive leaders are also managerial/systems types with merely a different methodology. Most innovators are really visionaries. In that sense, I don't see it innovative as a separate "style." (Plus, our egos also always want to deem ourselves innovative,when most of us are just good adapters.)

Re: Blog Bottleneck

jordan fowler — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:43:43 -0000

As a guy who shifted from hard core dispensationalist, to after a NT eschatology emphasis in my Masters, an amillenialist I would agree. But no theology is irrelevant. In fact when Corinth is in a mess, Paul doesn't give them how-to's but theology.

As to the bottleneck issue, just pray and God will allow you to get the flu like me and then you can go back and comment on everyone's blog you haven't had time to in a while...ala me.

Re: Robots

jordan fowler — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:43:46 -0000

This is hilarious....now you just need to go watch the Flight of the Conchords robots video.

Re: Procrastination…

jordan fowler — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:08:42 -0000

Dude you so need to discover GTD system (getting things done..the best system we've seen and I've tried them all). It has been a life saver for all my staff, some who are TYPE A wired like me and others who struggle with the motivation thing. There are several posts covering it on worshiptrench.com (search GTD). We also love a program called vitalist so much so that we give them free ad's (unheard of for me...hhaha).

Re: Another rare political post… | Consuming Worship

jordan fowler — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:20:51 -0000

With all the world issues we face, why is the legislative branch instead of the justice branch spending so much time on hearings on pro-sports? Hmmm It seems there are bigger fish to fry in terms of "lives saved" issues. So far, basketball (ref scandal), football (Bellicheck Gate & thank God the he sometimes works His judgment this side of eternity even using evil ones such as the Giants...Go Cowboys!) and baseball (steroids). Boxing, of which I am a huge fan, has seen its controversies in the past in front of congress. Soccer (again a huge fan) appears to be clean in the US but had quite a fiasco in Italy. Maybe we ought to invade Italy to make sure they get their soccer thing right. Arlen Specter could head up the congressional commission.

Re: David Crowder Band: House of Blues - Dallas | Consuming Worship

jordan fowler — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 18:29:36 -0000

My lil brother was good friends with Jack in the Baylor days. We got to eat birthday cake backstage in the greenroom. I've known Dave since the days he played backup keys for Dan Carson playing booger songs (Carson's son now plays for Chris T.) These guys are the real deal and humble. We heard the hilarious story of their recording session with Ted Nugent. Quite funny. And then we headed into the night where I made my brother nervous as I continually screamed out "Hook em Horns, Kill all Sooners." Hahahahaha.

Re: Idiot’s Guide To Surviving Worship Team

jordan fowler — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:03:22 -0000

"If, on average, there are 10 other people there waiting on the late person to show up that’s 10 minutes x 10 people’s time = 100 minutes of wasted time." That's nice...someone REALLY smart must have passed on that tidbit...hahaha

Re: Behind the Scenes: Who’s in my Reader?

jordan fowler — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:33:54 -0000

Thanks man. When I first read the title, for a second I was having flashbacks to 6th grade kickball lined up on the Gym wall as the captain's picked teams.

Still trying to simply be the "lifehacker" for worship leaders offering tips, tools and best practices for those in the worship trenches.

Re: Spiderman 3 - less than 1 hour

jordan fowler — Fri, 04 May 2007 11:53:37 -0000

Well how was it? a review por favor.

Re: Worship Leader Pitfalls #1

jordan fowler — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 17:10:19 -0000

The company you mentioned is 3M and the beloved post it note was invented in a guys mandatory creative time (every leader ought to read those two Jim Collins books. Be sure to check out the monograph follow up he did for non-profits on Good to Great. You can get it at amazon. Little single chapter soft-cover.)

Here is my advice. You will never see creative time just drop in your lap. For context, Friday is my one day off a week (and I ain't complaining about that at all, better than planting rice all day long 7 days a week like some of my Vietnamese friends. Plus, one day was good enough for God, so what's my gripe and technically I have my Saturday mornings until 2 PM). I schedule Thursday afternoons for creative time, so I have to pace Monday-Wednesday like that is all I the time I have. My goal is to keep delegating more until I get all day Thursday as creative time. Then two years from now, add Wednesday afternoons and so forth. It all comes from the base of raising up leaders whom you can delegate effectively to. Once again, raising up leaders should 51+% of ever persons job in ministry.

Re: Worship Leader Pitfalls #1

jordan fowler — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:41:35 -0000

Hey, no problem. I threw these up on www.worshiptrench.com as well. here is:

1. sometimes I walk and reflect on key decisions

2. a trip to Barnes and Nobles or Borders to see a) what is selling b) titles of books for creative metaphors c) perusing periodicals on various topics

3. blog reading of sites on worship, theology, technology, and design of various sorts and types.

4. an occasional trip to the museums in Fort Worth (The Modern especially)

5. listening through all the new release samples on Itunes, Urge etc.

Re: Sunday Stats, August 26

jordan fowler — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:07:35 -0000

Wow, now if I can only wipe out the big boyz I'll be #1. I gotta make sure myspace doesn't run up my back. hahaha

Re: On Leadership: Budgeting Time, Pt. 1

jordan fowler — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:49:03 -0000

Call me TODAY after 3pm and the goodness of Vitalist shall be yours. I'll show you behind the curtain of the greatest GTD system ever invented as I let you and you alone hack my account. Get my number at www.northwoodchurch.org

Re: On Leadership: Budgeting Time, Pt. 2

jordan fowler — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:00:53 -0000

Fred, did you not get the beautiful contexts comment i sent yesterday? Your contexts are too close to projects.

Contexts should be more of what realm or tool do you need to accomplish the next action:

example
@phone, @email, @errands, @home, @desk, @meeting

That way when you run errands, regardless of projects, you can see which ones you can kill with one stone. You can jump on the phone and knock a zillion out.

I also highly recommend @travis, @chris, etc. so you can see whom you have delegated what to...if they get on vitalist you can even "share contexts." Beautiful. I like vitalist.com but I even more mancrush the Getting Things Done system.

Re: On Leadership: Budgeting Time, Pt. 2

jordan fowler — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:07:25 -0000

I've posted all my contexts with explanations at http://www.worshiptrench.com/?p=213.

Now I am getting convicted I am evangelizing on behalf of GTD and vitalist more than Jesus. I gotta work on that. "Excuse me, would you like to accept GTD as your Lord and Savior?"

I convince you yet, Fred McKinnon.

Re: On Leadership: Budgeting Time, Pt. 3

jordan fowler — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:13:24 -0000

Ohhh Fred, "all wrong" is such strong language. How about "needs refining"

As to the Time Audit, we are down the road on a web2,0 on that so we can either race to finish (and may the best product win) or combine efforts and BOTH retire to Tahiti. Technically, I wouldn't retire. I would just be 100% delegating through vitalist. HA!

Re: McKinnon Blog goes XXX

jordan fowler — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:45:14 -0000

Two things:
1- I mandate Covenant Eyes on all my guys' PC's. Their Mac product should be ready to. The XXX Church reporting system is good and free but can be beat and doesn't support Mozilla Firefox last time I checked.

2-We did a sermon series called PorNO. It was fantastic and ended with almost 25 guys in a support group and one for their spouses as well who then folded into our Celebrate Recovery groups. BTW, this isn't only a male issue anymore as statisically more women are becoming users. If anyone would like to hear the series, just contact me thru NorthWood and we'll get you a copy at cost.

Re: God Speaking (Mandisa)

jordan fowler — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:28:49 -0000

Biblically, God is not the direct causative agent of sin though, to use an analogy, He does have to give evil a hallpass (ex. Satan's permission and boundaries on Job's suffering). That is why the song is a bit dangerous just sung as is. My decision would be based on how the listener would interpret the word "invovled" with no subsequent explanation. Before a message where the teaching pastor would make reference to that and clarify and I'd roll with it. In a sense He is involved, allowing permissions and "working it for good for those who believe." As a stand alone entity with no other explanation and I'd shrink from it.

Several other quotes need light shed on them.

As to Calvinism. With Calvin sovereignty and God's election dealt with sotieriology, not God as the causitive agent of everything though many have since gone there with it. If God causes everything then He caused me to think the thought "He is the causitive agent of everything" and then any sense of rationality goes out the window because I can never be sure I if am thinking rationally but there is a puppet master (God) in my brain arranging all my thoughts. I call myself a Pauline Doctrine of Electionist to separate myself from common connotations of others toward Calvinists. It at least makes them stop and ask me, "Now what?"

"Please understand that Iâ€™m not suggesting that everyone leading worship get a Ph.D. in Bible or Theology." I am suggesting that they should strongly consider it and if not, at least be highly educated in Systematic and Biblical theology. We should know the God we lead people to subjectively (experientially) and objectively (factually). Every worship leader ought to have a sound theology on the nature of Christ (vs. heretical views), the Trinity (one of the largest churches in Dallas' Pastor refuses to use the word or espouse it..historically speaking they are no then a Church by Nicene Standards), and the atonement.

Re: On Leadership: 3 Nuggets, Pt. 2

jordan fowler — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:21:27 -0000

Yes, whenever momentum/attendance drops I can ALWAYS track it to a lack of casting vision and purpose. I have found even doing a study of the content of a new song and tying it to a theological perspective on our or purpose tends to ignite their leadership of the song that weekend. Sure there are times we need to do a fellowship to lift moral, but if worship leaders think that will overcome a lack of vision they are nuts.

Here are ways we've tried to cast our vision that we exist to bridge others into God's presence.
1. theologically....tie in thru a bible study in rehearsal, mp3's we email out, etc.
2. metaphorically...through using word picture and visual pictures (we have a huge banner size print of a bridge in our green room)
3. testimonial-- from both people on the team and from congregational members who gave us positive feedback that they met God.

Re: On Leadership: 3 Nuggets, Pt. 3

jordan fowler — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:55:39 -0000

We have found one thing that helps momentum is "fresh blood" particularly in regards to our bridge team. To have new people come in because they are excited about a vision makes your long-timers think, "Wow, people are wanting to be a part of this and I now I remember why I joined the team." So I am on Brent and Missy all the time asking them, "When is our next Get-to-know-you time and how many are scheduled?"

Re: The Stand … Love it, Leave it, Lose it

jordan fowler — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:05:04 -0000

we have three 47" cheat flat screens around the perimeter of our horseshoe stage. i would never not have these as vocals are confident, stage is clear and it simply rocks. brent ..as he has shifted from assoc to a full-fledged WL that is leading about 70% as I exec and work on oversight, design, experiences and communication more... went cold turkey on a stand in january when we entered the new building. it has gone well most of the time...once we were co-leading and he forget and held a chord an extra bar which freaked out one turnaround a bit but no one but he, I and the band knew. i haven't b/c i cannot devote as much time to song rehearsal/memorization. and besides i just watched Sting use a music stand in concert. if someone as "perfect" as Sting can...so can i ..hahaha

Re: 1-Thing - 4:30 of Peace?

jordan fowler — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 17:40:58 -0000

Good to know you are finally getting paid to do a quiet time...hahahah, maybe now you'll do one. Kidding of course. Good stuff on the blog and like the tune...very tasteful.

Re: Dear Worship Team

jordan fowler — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:19:04 -0000

Ahhhh. Parking. So not glamorous and so expensive. Our city is very strict on paved parking space per car. Fortunately we learned our lesson before the newest addition of a building. Parking space is usually the determining factor of people per hour your campus can handle our architects told us. Are you guys land locked, Fred, or do you have room to do more? The thing that stinks is that the money usually follows the new building spike in attendance at about a nine month lag. My prayers are with you guys.

Re: Effective Leading

jordan fowler — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:40:42 -0000

Communication = most people are terrorized and live in fear of clarifying things with other people before they get infected. "Pull the thistle, man." I am amazed at how many people on a forum say, "Man I wish I could tell so in so X or Y." I am screaming at the post, "Tell them, tell them."

80% of leadership is knowing
1. what to do next
2. when to do it
3. how many resources (People/$) to bring to bear upon 1 and 2.

Re: I Thought We Were SUPPOSED To Sing?

jordan fowler — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:54:33 -0000

Wow. Great dialogue.

1. We run a little on the loud side at A weighted 100 with peaks in 102. But it does tend to foster energy.

2. We constantly teach on "place your mind's attention and heart:s affection on God."

3. We challenge our people not to spell check the bulletin during worship and reinforce the worship equation: itty-bitty worship = itty bitty view of God

As I preach 50% of the time, I get to do what you do a great deal. Sometimes it does get frustrating. Sometimes it lack of singing is due to design production issues like volume, too many new songs, or no "sound byte" challenges to focus. Other times, there are other reasons. We tend to preach the bigness of God during such times. (see http://www.worshiptrench.com/?p=131 for more on how to enlarge peoples views of God).

jordan fowlers last blog post..Why I Adore Annoucements in Worship and How to Stop Them

Re: What Makes a Great Worship Song?

jordan fowler — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:22:05 -0000

Solid doctrine that says something beyond " I want to praise you, I want to worship you ..." and declares why.

How Deep the Father's Love is still one of the pinnacle songs in this regard. The more Cross and Resurrection the better for me.

jordans last blog post..A Great Below the Radar Worship Project From Sovereign Grace

Re: Healer - Mike Guglielmucci Exposed

jordan fowler — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:44:19 -0000

Sad news but again a reminder to us. Experience is not foundational. God's movement in the present nor its accompanying buzz is either. Only the historical salvific activity of Christ crucified, buried and risen is Gospel in its truest sense. I would pray this would allow the charismatic movement to regain some lost filters (not all but the buzz/bentley chasers) but still retain their freshness they bring to the Body. Not every story is "of God" nor even true. Yet, as a non-charismatic in the classic sense, I would say to you charismatics, don't lose your freshness, just filter it. The body needs all of us.

jordans last blog post..Healer Song Story Possibly a Fraud? Michael Guglielmucci Lied About Cancer?

Re: Healer - Mike Guglielmucci Exposed

jordan fowler — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:59:15 -0000

Fred, I wasn't relating this back to all charismatics. My whole in-law family comes from a charismatic background and many of them have a great filter. I came out of a childhood charismatic church. It might be presumptive but in our church with tons of charismatics and tons not, it seems to my humble observation like I sometimes can't get the non-charismatics to believe much in regards that God does anything actively today, the contra- of our NorthWood charismatics to whom I often want to say, "Make sure you check that out..." when I hear a wilder (in my own mind) story of God's activity. The assessment is not meant to be pejorative and is only a reflection of how people tend to react in our half-n-half congregation, which I wouldn't trade for anything. There are several charismatics who tend to look back at God's historic activity more than His present and non-charismatics who do the opposite. I am not trying to put anyone in a box. I think it is okay at times to recognize patterns and trends I see within our particular body.

jordans last blog post..A Great Question to Ask People

Re: Healer - Mike Guglielmucci Exposed

jordan fowler — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:38:12 -0000

When reading some of the comments, I started wondering what if some of this is tied to the (not always bad) subjectivity of our worship songs. A lot of this songs power/favor/anointing (or whatever word you want to use) was tied to the story behind it. I wonder if some of the more objective hymnody of the past would have taken such a hit? Would O Sacred Head Now Wounded, A Mighty Fortress, Fairest Lord Jesus and others taken the beating this song is taking if their composer's had such a public failure? Thoughts anyone.

jordans last blog post..Are We Voyeurs? The Guglielmucci Controversy and Culture

Re: iTunes Shuffle - Whatcha Got?

jordan fowler — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:58:11 -0000

Genuis IDEA!

1. Gonna Take It John Butler Trio (funny my fave band comes up first)
2. Aliens Ripped My Face Off Karizma (Vinnie Vinnie Coualita, drummer of all drummers' group)
3. Bela Celso Fonseca (Brasilian singer-smooth great date music!)
4. Knuckle Down Ani Difranco (the lil aggressive folk singer is golden)
5. The Firebird Suite: VIII. Stravinsky (who cannot like heavy Russian composers)
6. Pretend that You are Alone Keane (new album a little different but grows on you)
7. Puncha Puncha Avishai Cohen Trio (burningest jazzers out there)

(Yes I do have worship on the pod, just nothing came up in the first 7).

Re: FreePlay Friday - And We’re Off

jordan fowler — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:58:38 -0000

in re: to-
1. should be using a PC and see how easy your week would have gone. hahaha. i am the last pc holdout in the worship comm office i think.
4. did you use the leadership star for conflict talks....???? I slave and slave away giving you free tools to be used and yet I hear of a possible bad conversation. hahaha

I always laugh when my traveling WL friends arereally idealistic and say, "well, if i worked at a church I would do X or Y." I would think--because I had done their role for years--"Dude, you unload, play you setlist of 8 songs, sell cd's and roll onto the next place, you ain't gotta fat clue about a soloist calling you morning of saying, 'My kid is puking so I won't be there to lead the mass choir special.'" or even more pressing pastoral issues (addictions, divorces, etc). But man I wouldn't trade it, I love the trenches of the local church.Stay strong, bro, I know you will.

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Re: Worship Leader Praise Awards

jordan fowler — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:18:59 -0000

Yeah, I am a bit with James on this one. What if we celebrated the Source rather than the PVC pipe he delivered it through? If I ever got nominated for a Dove or Grammy (fat chance), I would pull a Woody Allen and decline. I know some writers in Asia writing some burning praise and they'll never even make the awards radar screen but they will get a huge crown in heaven for enduring persecution..

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Re: Sunday Setlists #20 - Worship Service Recaps

jordan fowler — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:16:51 -0000

This is a cool feature. Soon you shall have my header entry.

A question for the readers. I find a bit of vitriolic attitude toward Christmas music by many modern worship leaders. That concerns me as the Incarnation is the apex of God's revelation of Himself to us. And since worship both glorifies God and shapes our thinking on Him, shouldn't we want to declare with passion lines like...

No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;
He comes to make His blessings flow
Far as the curse is found,
Far as the curse is found,
Far as, far as, the curse is found.

As far as them being "story songs," is not our faith, as compared to almost every other, a historical faith thus it contains a story that should be preached AND sung. In this day of doing so many "how to" sermons, should we at least not do "story" one time per year in our musical worship?

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Re: Christmas Carols - To Sing or Not to Sing

jordan fowler — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:00:42 -0000

A question for the readers. I find a bit of vitriolic attitude toward Christmas music by many modern worship leaders. That concerns me as the Incarnation is the apex of God’s revelation of Himself to us. And since worship both glorifies God and shapes our thinking on Him, shouldn’t we want to declare with passion lines like…

No more let sins and sorrows grow,
Nor thorns infest the ground;
He comes to make His blessings flow
Far as the curse is found,
Far as the curse is found,
Far as, far as, the curse is found.

or

O holy night! The stars are brightly shining,
It is the night of the dear Saviour’s birth.
Long lay the world in sin and error pining.
Till He appeared and the Spirit felt its worth.
A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn.
Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices!
O night divine, the night when Christ was born;
O night, O holy night, O night divine!
O night, O holy night, O night divine!

As far as them being story songs, is not our faith, as compared to almost every other, a historical faith thus it contains a story that should be preached AND sung. In this day of doing so many “how-to” sermons, should we at least not do “story” one time per year in our musical worship? Otherwise, people do not gain the redemptive history narrative of God’s activity through Christ. At the least, it diminishes their understanding that the activity of God in Christ is central to our faith. Jesus was not just a guru with some great help tips (save your marriage, be successful, get a blessed bank account). For crying out loud folks, it is the INCARNATION. Let’s sing of it and not relegate Carols to Christmas Eve only.

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