DISQUS

@Jonathan:

I think the most important thing is, that the change comes somehow from the inside. Take the very extreme, you cordon off whole streets, sweep them clean, put up plants and cycle lanes, do all the fancy cleaning stuff, maybe even far into the houses, cleaning floors for free. And afterwards maybe you even invest in some guards, policemen, for patrolling the streets. I bet it would become some kind of sports in that area to litter.

On the other hand, give the inhabitants the opportunity to clean their surroundings themselves, maybe give them to decide on whether some cleaning should be done or a new playground should be bought. If you can get some kind of agreement in the population of the area, I think this would last longer. But then, "giving the opportunity" includes stuff like education, work, and generally enough "lazy" time and income-safety to having time to worry about litter on the street.

Actually this sounds a lot like a hen-and-egg-problem, but realistically you can't have one without the other.

@Jonathan:

I think the most important thing is, that the change comes somehow from the inside. Take the very extreme, you cordon off whole streets, sweep them clean, put up plants and cycle lanes, do all the fancy cleaning stuff, maybe even far into the houses, cleaning floors for free. And afterwards maybe you even invest in some guards, policemen, for patrolling the streets. I bet it would become some kind of sports in that area to litter.

On the other hand, give the inhabitants the opportunity to clean their surroundings themselves, maybe give them to decide on whether some cleaning should be done or a new playground should be bought. If you can get some kind of agreement in the population of the area, I think this would last longer. But then, "giving the opportunity" includes stuff like education, work, and generally enough "lazy" time and income-safety to having time to worry about litter on the street.

Actually this sounds a lot like a hen-and-egg-problem, but realistically you can't have one without the other.

On the Karma thingy: And then all the cool places are overrun by a horde of n00bs eventually none of the cool guys will go to any cool places anymore. Effect: another cool place destroyed. Secondary effect: everybody who has a high cool-rating would turn of his device for the right to be alone (at least when he visits a "cool place" because he wants this place to stay cool). Tertiary effect: the whole karma system goes down in mediocrity at best because the only ones gaining from the system are the non-cool. After all coolness is defined by being the one defining the cool places, isn't it? Thus the cool do not need the system.

Same on the Wuffie paragraph. If you need to know my wuffie score, then you definitely are not the one I need to let my wuffie score known.

Imagine the difficulty to follow any conversation if something is constantly ringing in your ear. The gaydar, the movie-dar, the hobby-dar, or the potential-employer-approaching-dar. I'd be happy to be left alone if it only takes so much as flipping a switch to "off".

On the Karma thingy: And then all the cool places are overrun by a horde of n00bs eventually none of the cool guys will go to any cool places anymore. Effect: another cool place destroyed. Secondary effect: everybody who has a high cool-rating would turn of his device for the right to be alone (at least when he visits a "cool place" because he wants this place to stay cool). Tertiary effect: the whole karma system goes down in mediocrity at best because the only ones gaining from the system are the non-cool. After all coolness is defined by being the one defining the cool places, isn't it? Thus the cool do not need the system.

Same on the Wuffie paragraph. If you need to know my wuffie score, then you definitely are not the one I need to let my wuffie score known.

Imagine the difficulty to follow any conversation if something is constantly ringing in your ear. The gaydar, the movie-dar, the hobby-dar, or the potential-employer-approaching-dar. I'd be happy to be left alone if it only takes so much as flipping a switch to "off".

Maybe you should start with what hereabouts is used as a handy refresher: lemonade and beer mixed together. Worked quite well for a lot of friends of mine. (And why should one not learn from the success of all those funny alcopops with which the industry is getting the youngelings connected to alcohol very successful.)

Maybe you should start with what hereabouts is used as a handy refresher: lemonade and beer mixed together. Worked quite well for a lot of friends of mine. (And why should one not learn from the success of all those funny alcopops with which the industry is getting the youngelings connected to alcohol very successful.)