DISQUS

Happy Birthday to you! I'm 1 older than you, which I figured as much from the high school reunion that you declined to go to recently! :) I went to mine and other than not recognizing a lot of people, I quite enjoyed.

Here's to your special day!
@elliottng

Actually, the real question is: if Twitter would shut off my account, how much would I pay to get back on? Or if someone wanted to buy my account, how much would I sell it for?

Shall we conduct a little hedonic pricing experiment? i'll start: I'd pay $50-100/year to get my account back. But I wouldn't sell it for less than $500.

Sorry I met these guys in 2006 but I will try to track it down...they were introduced to me through China Growth Capital. But representative of the morphing that goes on in virtually every deal I've looked at. Nice "handle" too : "Adaptive Creativity"...I'll start using that.

Sorry I met these guys in 2006 but I will try to track it down...they were introduced to me through China Growth Capital. But representative of the morphing that goes on in virtually every deal I've looked at. Nice "handle" too : "Adaptive Creativity"...I'll start using that.

Heard Shenzhen is also way down. but still sounds very expensive. Still more to drop you think? Be interested in when you think there is a buying opportunity...probably not for a while.

Heard Shenzhen is also way down. but still sounds very expensive. Still more to drop you think? Be interested in when you think there is a buying opportunity...probably not for a while.

Thanks for posting this Thomas. I'm not sure I said anything coherent but it was fun to meet up with you and Tariq. Hope to talk again soon.

Thanks for posting this Thomas. I'm not sure I said anything coherent but it was fun to meet up with you and Tariq. Hope to talk again soon.

I think its time that we learn from the Chinese. They are pragmatic, technocratic, long-term in perspective and highly protective of their national interests. We should do the same. Pragmaticism means abandoning our free-market deregulation doctrine and embracing industrial policy that works with capitalism. How about learning from the Japanese and Koreans in how their government supported the development of key industries? Or look at our own example of US defense spending spinning out innovation in Silicon Valley?

I also think the Chinese government is highly protective of its national interest. We have to do the same. This might mean providing support to key industries like clean tech and yes, the auto industry. These companies need to shrink and need to be reformed and floating them a lot of bailout cash make not make the changes happen. But investing in important industries to make sure they are competitive is absolutely something we can do.

Robert,

Sorry we won't see each other until CNBloggerCon. My itinerary here: http://is.gd/5boW

My fellow CN Reviews blogger Kai Pan would be a good person to party with Sat night 11/8 in Shanghai. He knows the restaurant scene and the club scene. We went club hopping with him last time I was in Shanghai. His email is firstname dot lastname at geemail. Or @neokai on Twitter.

We'll be in touch! Glad you're doing this!

Interesting comment Daniel. I'm co-sponsoring the tour with The China Business Network (TCBN). Let me offer a response:

1. Christine heartily admits that TCBN is really "China 101" So what? That's what people want. Why should China knowledge be confined to an elite priesthood of China hands? The Western world, especially the US, desperately needs to get World 101 not just China 101 in order to just stay competitive with the world economy. So are you against American competitiveness in the face of globalization?

2. Social climbing wannabes? So what? The entire country of China is social climbing wannabes. And that is yielding sustained GDP growth of 10% a year. I'll take that any day vs. complaisance, which I'm sure you're not advocating.

3. Not surprised that some "experienced China experts" wince at the popularization of anything related to their important and serious field. That's fine, but other experts will profit from the lead generation provided by a network like TCBN.

4. By "shopgirl" you probably mean "exuberant use of social media." Yes, its a different style that probably doesn't fit with the world of government relations and SOE negotiations. But China is changing, and there will be many approaches will work in the future.

The sentiments expressed feels like the commenter is living in 90s era China. Well, things are changing, and keep an open mind. We all have to continuously reinvent our way of seeing China. Good luck to you with that!

Thomas, since you're cross-posting to Danwei, can I cross-post to ThomasCrampton? :)

Thomas, since you're cross-posting to Danwei, can I cross-post to ThomasCrampton? :)

Congrats Juha on your launch. I posted my own take on the launch here:

http://bit.ly/1zvgMk

We think the Groups feature is the best place to build interest-based, destination-oriented, or activity-based communities that can help people discover hidden gems through this social approach toward discovery.

Elliott Ng
Co-Founder
UpTake Travel Search

Congrats on your launch Juha.

Elliott Ng
Co-Founder
UpTake Networks Inc.

Jaiku just doesn't even care anymore. I tried to sign up and have been waiting for my invite for over 4-5 months!

Well, I don't care and I'm entrenched in Twitter cause that is where my social graph is most fully expressed/developed.

Funny we are on the same wavelength. Except we have no love and no recognition from Wikio. Ah well.

Technorati Authority I think is just for a 6 month window. So your older links will fall off over time.

Google however values those links. Here's my speculation on this: In fact, the value of the links grow as the links age. And the value of the links is driven by the authority of the sites linking to you. However, as those blogs bury the older posts that have your links, if they don't flow PageRank to those posts, then less PageRank consequently flows to you. So that counterbalances the increased value of the aged links.

Bottom line: links = good.

But RSS readers and comments = engagement, community, and relationships. Much more important than Technorati Authority!

Funny we are on the same wavelength. Except we have no love and no recognition from Wikio. Ah well.

Technorati Authority I think is just for a 6 month window. So your older links will fall off over time.

Google however values those links. Here's my speculation on this: In fact, the value of the links grow as the links age. And the value of the links is driven by the authority of the sites linking to you. However, as those blogs bury the older posts that have your links, if they don't flow PageRank to those posts, then less PageRank consequently flows to you. So that counterbalances the increased value of the aged links.

Bottom line: links = good.

But RSS readers and comments = engagement, community, and relationships. Much more important than Technorati Authority!

Robert,

Here's my response. Thanks for forcing me to blog out my opinions rather than just ranting. Look forward to your thoughts back.

http://is.gd/ioZ

@scobleizer you are totally right that we live in a late adopter Google world. That's why I think businesses optimized for Google are much better than those optimized for FriendFeed. I'm as addicted to social media as the next guy so I'll keep learning and having fun. But with the recession coming I'm sure glad I'm targeting lots of late adopters with money in their pockets. Still want the pitch on Twitter? ;) enjoy maker faire!

This post worries me. Does this mean that it is impossible to be a great blogger and a great entrepreneur?

Tough choice.

This post worries me. Does this mean that it is impossible to be a great blogger and a great entrepreneur?

Tough choice.

@chrisbrogan this is excellent! It helps by meeting people who don't understand social media where they are--an understanding of traditional media--and bringing them to a better understanding of bloggers.

I also liked the Pitching ME section. Idea: what if every blogger maintained a Pitching ME post, tagged it as such, and it was aggregated to PR people can use it to filter who to pitch to? Pull instead of push...

I'd love to help make that happen...

I had asked you to move from your Tom-rant from earlier today to concrete advice and you did. Props!

Twitter: @elliottng

@chrisbrogan,

Thanks for your contribution to the recent "pitchmeme" of bagging on PR people that don't get it. If you tell them to "understand their audience" and "tailor their pitch" they will say "we already do this" but in fact they might not know how bloggers are different from journalists. So people like @briansolis have been trying to explain. Maybe you could follow up on this post with a 5 step program for PR people and companies to do the right thing. I think "don't fart on my face" is a good start but could be more detailed for people who don't get it.

disclosure: I follow your Tweets (and like your Tweetstream) but don't really read your blog so don't flame me if you already wrote about this, and I'm not even going to bother to pitch you on my business. :) I'll keep my flatulence to myself!

BTW, Mr CellSpin just made himself look foolish by getting all defensive on the comments he left hehe.

-E

@elliottng (on Twitter)

During the Twitterverse splintering incident of 2 weeks ago I just stood by the sidelines but I was maaad at twitter for being flaky and even madder at myself for being so dependent on Twitter. I set up twirl with friendFeed support so I could use friendFeed as a hotswappable backup if the splintering effect happened again. I think there would need to be some important mods to FriendFeed to maki it a twitter substitute, like more control over the hide settings...a world without twitter would be...weird! For my heavy collaborators it would be back toGoogle groups, Im, and email.