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1 week ago
in Subtlety – on danielmiessler.com | grep understanding
So what you're an evangelical Muslim, good for you. It doesn't matter to me.
What DOES matter is your obvious (yet pathetic) attempt to troll a group of rather smart people that have likely been troll baitin' and killin' since long before you failed basic spelling and Grammar classes. Now, go away troll, else you may get replaced by a small shell script.
What DOES matter is your obvious (yet pathetic) attempt to troll a group of rather smart people that have likely been troll baitin' and killin' since long before you failed basic spelling and Grammar classes. Now, go away troll, else you may get replaced by a small shell script.
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ozzy
replace me !
2 months ago
in Insanity vs. Christianity on dmiessler.com | grep understanding
OK, I've avoided this for a bit, but seriously Carl, you are applying an inordinate amount of logic to defend religion, when the average lay person of almost ANY region has practically NO knowledge or understanding of the "higher mysteries" other than vague ideas. Use Kaballah in Judaism, or Sufiism in Islam as examples.
You CAN NOT argue faith with logic...while not mutually exclusive, they do not follow the same strictures of thought.
I know of many devout people who will agree the world is NOT 6-7 thousand years old, that GOD did not create everything as a fixed setting, etc.. YET will still say Jesus died, was buried and rose from the DEAD.
to rebut the example of Hell though, ALMOST all religions have a hell, it's just many of them do not refer to it as hell though. MOST of the time, it is the dissolution of the spirit or removal of the deity's blessing that could be considered hell, not a specific plane/place/state...
Oh and for the record, I do not consider myself atheist or agnostic. I am a devout worshipper of my religion, it just took me 24 years and traveling to over 40 countries to find it. I have danced with Sufi's...It is an experience I would greatly recommend, even if the entire judeo-Christian mythology is ludicrously complex and just wrong.
You CAN NOT argue faith with logic...while not mutually exclusive, they do not follow the same strictures of thought.
I know of many devout people who will agree the world is NOT 6-7 thousand years old, that GOD did not create everything as a fixed setting, etc.. YET will still say Jesus died, was buried and rose from the DEAD.
to rebut the example of Hell though, ALMOST all religions have a hell, it's just many of them do not refer to it as hell though. MOST of the time, it is the dissolution of the spirit or removal of the deity's blessing that could be considered hell, not a specific plane/place/state...
Oh and for the record, I do not consider myself atheist or agnostic. I am a devout worshipper of my religion, it just took me 24 years and traveling to over 40 countries to find it. I have danced with Sufi's...It is an experience I would greatly recommend, even if the entire judeo-Christian mythology is ludicrously complex and just wrong.
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CarlM
Michael, I didn't say that religions didn't have a Hell. I said that they didn't have the hell that was implied in the cartoon. (I'm usually pretty careful about how I phrase things.) I think that your description of how religions often view "hell" is accurate.
For the record, I DO consider myself agnostic. My arguments here have been intended to show flaws in the reasoning of the arguments being used. I believe that science is the appropriate way of looking at the structure of the physical world and the universe and that religion and/or religious ideas should not be a part of science education.
I do NOT believe that religion is the threat to civilization that Daniel believes it to be and I have been trying merely to argue that point. Like most things in this world, religion is not purely good or purely evil. Many people believe in religion as a story and don't believe in their literal truth. As you say, there are many who choose to believe that some parts are story and other parts are truth. I am not one of those people, but I don't see them as a threat to civilization. THIS was my argument. Daniel perceives religion as a threat to civilization. I find this absurd and I find his arguments lacking. That's all I've been saying.
In THIS thread, I was simply pointing out that the cartoon was a straw man argument.
For the record, I DO consider myself agnostic. My arguments here have been intended to show flaws in the reasoning of the arguments being used. I believe that science is the appropriate way of looking at the structure of the physical world and the universe and that religion and/or religious ideas should not be a part of science education.
I do NOT believe that religion is the threat to civilization that Daniel believes it to be and I have been trying merely to argue that point. Like most things in this world, religion is not purely good or purely evil. Many people believe in religion as a story and don't believe in their literal truth. As you say, there are many who choose to believe that some parts are story and other parts are truth. I am not one of those people, but I don't see them as a threat to civilization. THIS was my argument. Daniel perceives religion as a threat to civilization. I find this absurd and I find his arguments lacking. That's all I've been saying.
In THIS thread, I was simply pointing out that the cartoon was a straw man argument.
5 months ago
in The Economics of the NYT: This Can’t Be True on dmiessler.com | grep understanding
favorite part "And here's the thing: a source with knowledge of the real numbers tells us we're so low in our estimate of the Times's printing costs that we're not even in the ballpark."
Wow....Bump the costs to 500 and you could send every subscriber a decent netbook...
Wow....Bump the costs to 500 and you could send every subscriber a decent netbook...
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Daniel Miessler
Yeah, so this is just evolution telling the print industry that it's time.
