DISQUS

Ok Anon - create a name for yourself and stop being lazy. If you want to have a REAL conversation don't do it in an underhanded manner. You've brought this up in several threads and ignored the fact that we have discussed this issue in previous posts. Your entire premise is faulty when you've written more than once that people don't want to discuss your issues. Either you want to have a conversation - which you will then need to respect the differing opinions of others that come here OR you're here acting as a troll trying to spread dissent. Either way your questions and comments have been replied to. Now move on. You can be part of a group but you need to approach us here with respect. You do not have all the answers and you're not going to come here with an air of superiority. Start your own blog!

But spouting a lot of rhetoric that has no substance is.

Yeah I think there's a purpose behind Obama's handling of this most recent FISA legislation. Perhaps there's a bait and switch plan at play that will be revealed. Would everyone who reacted so negatively then 'apologize'? Or Obama could just be making a 'bad' choice, but I still think the entire foundation is cracked and filling a few sandbags on top of it won't change that.

Obama might surprise everyone with someone that has not been considered. I don't want Edwards and Clarke is not even being considered. I was watching CNN for the first time in 3 weeks and they were trying to push that Clinton as VP bs. NO!!!!!

Yeah, but the ease with which people get guns who SHOULD NOT HAVE THEM makes this ruling very dangerous!

You know I think a surgical strike is necessary. Beef up the FCC and start pulling the plug. Well heavy sanctions and souring all brand names associated with the products advertised during these segments. Clinton helped put it into play but Bush had all these years let his cronies run amuck. I used to watch Bill O'Reilly in 2000 and I don't remember him being the ass he is now. Don't leave weeds unattended and they won't grow.

Obama has the patience of a saint. Diane Watson was the same person who claimed Hillary was going to emerge the Democratic nominee in a backroom deal at Denver, that Obama and his contemporaries could WAIT because it was Hill time now, and how once she gives you her word and loyalty that's it. We all know quite a few of those CBC hacks need to GO! And I'm watching CNN right now. I am sick of hearing about Billy Jeff's whining and temper tantrums. The symbolism of the Clinton era has been exposed as the fraud it has always been and nothing he does will get it back. It is not Obama's responsibility to do jack! And if Clinton thinks that Obama owes him anything it just shows how wrong he is. Wow I'm counting all the Black panelists between the King and Cooper and it's 3-4 in one night!!! Should I break out some champagne? And where has Amy Holmes been hiding?

OT - I'm watching Larry King right now and....let's see... he has a panel of women discussing the Obama Clinton fundraising event. There's this one segment that was just on and I'll call it 'racist white bitchfest'. A woman who claims to have been a Clinton supporter and works for a woman's group that solely focuses on sexism is supporting McCain. King asked her if she was pro-choice and against the war. Yes. Did she think Obama was guilty of sexism? 'Some of his surrogates were' was her reply. And she threw in the 'he's not qualified'. Ugh. At least the main panelists [both Dems & Repubs] disputed her tomfoolery. She was just trying to get participation in her group. Oh and she said she got a promise from McCain that he would appoint more women in his administration than any other previous one! Don't hold your breath, sweetie! Unless he means cleaning staff.

I'm being silly but since I have a subscription to the mag - looking up close his lips look really glossy and now I can't the Lil' Mama song out of my head.


Will Smith and Theresa Randall for Obama: The Movie!

Rikyrah -


I'd be surprised that they have a problem with Obama's parentage by race alone. The earliest Black socialites did have white parentage - hence the paper bag test. I think Obama might just get it...Michelle DEFINITELY does not. So there you go. It's funny how Barack managed to have enough desire to get in touch with Black consciousness while some other politicians who've 'always' been Black and are his peers are not really 'down for the people'.

Oh you weren't the only one that emailed about that, but I get it! They're common folk. I also noticed how the comments are turned off now. I did comment once about socialites attending the BET awards back in Feb and got so much hateration about how it was an escape for them and they didn't want to talk politics, blah blah. Yet..there had been a photo of Mayor Kilpatrick and his wife the week before...before the texts came out, so oh well. When you are uber-rich your assets are so well insulated, especially when it's multi-generational that it kinda doesn't matter who's elected [or selected] President. You're covered.

Nader got so many people engaged in what was to have been a progressive movement but after the 2000 and 2004 elections he just walked away. He didn't want to build a coalition, he wanted to be head guy in charge. He has done a lot of good things like with getting auto safety standards upgraded - but that was years ago! I didn't want to label him an election spoiler but he is certainly trying to fit the bill.

Did they photoshop some of the purple out of his lips? He looks like he's wearing lip balm. His eyes are downcast and I'd prefer a direct eye contact photo.

Hmmm so does Rush like the rent boys or the doms? You know I really hope these fools get pulled off the air. Stop watering the weeds and they'll die off.

Too bad they don't give out Emmy awards for this post. I can see you posting this as a video on youtube. I wish you would - you'd get 100K hits for sure! That would be a nice feature to add to JJP. "The JJP Quote of the Day" segment.

Town - Barack & Michelle are NOT the Bill & Hill show. If you recall she was always jockeying for power for herself and declared it a co-presidency. I really think that's what set the Rethugs after her as well. And don't forget all the extra-marital activity was already there and they had to explain it away. If Bill had run now I'm not sure he would've won. All of those women he assaulted and messed around with would have been front page and center. Personally I think the Obamas have more integrity. I'm not sure how much more, but I think some of their early struggles and having to spend years paying off their debts grounded them a bit more than the Clintons were at their age.


Obama needs to tell Billy Jeff what he told Rep Watson: get over it!

Ralph Nader is one to talk. Shouldn't he be grateful the corporate media doesn't tie his Lebanese heritage with Hamas?

I honestly have no idea. As long as there is profit to be made by inflicting pain on other people will things ever stop? They have lessened in many aspects but while the changes have elevated us it has encouraged a coordinated pushback. It's the same corporations that will take our money but use others to denigrate us. We don't have an established infrastructure set up to bypass them either. Also I think hindsight is 20/20 and Civil Rights fought for integration but not for equality. Or at least all of the assassinations discouraged a continued dialog, those that we left began looking out for themselves, got used to having a little bit of power for becoming overseers, people were left behind and here we are.

Dobson is trying to stir up trouble since Obama is going after the evangelical vote. This 'preacher' would have used the Bible to justify enslaving Blacks back in the day. This just shows how threatened they are.

Please. I gave it 6 months before he started showing his ass again. And ding, right on schedule! So now what? Is he going to get fired - again? Doubt it. It's time to start calling advertisers. His hateration does nothing to add to society.

Perhaps the hypocrisy will turn from a murmur to a roar. All I know is they won't have a leg to stand on anymore with their selfish my way or the highway act. The phoniness is there for all to so. Except the ones that are willfully obstinate about ignoring it.

bigassbelle - why leave? It's a marathon not a sprint. You were so engaged to the nth degree and I felt your anger very strongly. We need differing views but we need to align ourselves to reach for an agreeable goal as well. If you remove yourself then that process gets stunted. It's no good if you let yourself be brought to the brink...and fizzle out. So please come back. I still think people need to stop using the service of the companies that violated FISA.


D- What parents? They offered a child up to a man who they KNEW liked young girls for a few thousand dollars! He has paid off dozens of them. There is no excuse. They should be in prison right next to him. It does not in any way absolve him from his actions though. Child molesters do not change. Until people decide they all should be punished and locked away forever this will continue to happen. Until enough Black people value the life and health of a black girl this will continue to happen.

Welcome!

I guess part of the reason I am not as engaged in this is I have always believed the gov't was spying on people because of COINTELPRO and the McCarthy witch hunts and having a father who was a Black Panther and some relatives that work for the Federal Gov't. There have always been inroads for gov't officials to get around things when they want to do something. The difference now is that it's more obvious. I still see it as a natural progression in response to what has been happening in this country the past 30 years. Historically every world power implodes on itself and the time for the USA is coming.

Bigassbelle -


You have been very clear about your feelings about Senator Obama, crying over the FISA rulings. Personally if I'm going to cry over something it is the treatment of women and children in peril in this country and Africa. If you want to engage in an emotional pissing contest to get your point across it isn't necessary. We all have our opinions and the right to express them but isn't there a point where we need to disengage instead of continually raising the stakes? Everyone clearly will not agree with each other. Your comment to Michelle sounded sarcastic and it detracts from having a more thorough discussion of issues. Do you have a blog that you can use as an outlet for expression? I'm not sure the comment section will satisfy you on this issue. Finally, what do you plan to do? I wrote in the comments yesterday about people disengaging from financially supporting the companies the violated FISA. Have you done that? Are you more invested in taking action or in arguing differences of opinions? We need to form alliances and agree on a course of action whether we share fundamental viewpoints or not.



And D- R Kelly has hardly been thrown under the bus. He may be have found innocent but he was guilty. If people valued the lives of Black women and girls the verdict would have reflected that. Some of his staunchest supporters have been other Black women. In no circumstances should a man in his 30's be allowed to have sex with a 14 year old. The end!