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1 week ago
in Making Flash The Console For The Web on CoderHump
Oh. When reading the post, I didn't know you were affiliated with PushButtonEngine. (For the future, it's good to clealry disclose... provides context to readers.)
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Ben Garney
Good call. I allude to it at the end but I could probably be clearer.
1 week ago
in Making Flash The Console For The Web on CoderHump
Thanks, Ben. So, would I be on-track here, with this list of requests?
o no further rights-management offered by Adobe;
o less hardware acceleration, to keep devices more equivalent to each other;
o no gaming frameworks from Adobe;
o no per-pixel collision detection (which is in Player already, see Mike Chambers this week);
o consistent cross-device performance (without options for hardware acceleration);
o some additional type of tooling.
Did I summarize accurately? If so, I think I'd get pushback like "Don't use acceleration or frameworks or services if these are not desired." How can I better get across the idea?
tx, jd/adobe
o no further rights-management offered by Adobe;
o less hardware acceleration, to keep devices more equivalent to each other;
o no gaming frameworks from Adobe;
o no per-pixel collision detection (which is in Player already, see Mike Chambers this week);
o consistent cross-device performance (without options for hardware acceleration);
o some additional type of tooling.
Did I summarize accurately? If so, I think I'd get pushback like "Don't use acceleration or frameworks or services if these are not desired." How can I better get across the idea?
tx, jd/adobe
2 replies
Troy Gilbert
I think Ben's main idea is "don't spend resources on these items *until* these other items are fixed/improved." Sure, in an ideal world we wouldn't turn up our nose at more hardware acceleration or frameworks or services, but we all know engineering resources are limited. Don't spend those precious resources on things the community can provide (even if it doesn't currently). Spend the resources on things that are *impossible* for the community to provide.
Jeff Johnson
Mr. Dowdell,
I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to ask for OpenGL 1.4 or 1.5 hardware acceleration capabilities from Flash Player. I would venture that at least 80% of your userbase can support this, probably more. I know that it would be a massive benefit for me (not doing games, doing online training for the military and utilizing basic 3D models for teaching how military hardware works would be a huge boon). Right now, my IT manager is pushing Silverlight over Flash and we are doggedly going back and forth about which is better. My argument is for ubiquity, his is for speed of coding and features. Cmon...even the playing field a bit :).
I don't think it would be too much of a stretch to ask for OpenGL 1.4 or 1.5 hardware acceleration capabilities from Flash Player. I would venture that at least 80% of your userbase can support this, probably more. I know that it would be a massive benefit for me (not doing games, doing online training for the military and utilizing basic 3D models for teaching how military hardware works would be a huge boon). Right now, my IT manager is pushing Silverlight over Flash and we are doggedly going back and forth about which is better. My argument is for ubiquity, his is for speed of coding and features. Cmon...even the playing field a bit :).
1 week ago
in Making Flash The Console For The Web on CoderHump
Sorry, I'm not sure I can yet summarize this accurately to others.
First you said "Please make Flash into the ultimate console for the web and mobile devices," but instead of learning what you think that might be, there were a number of things you didn't want. There was a request for "consistent performance", but I'm not sure in what environments, with what metrics you saw the key difference. There was a request for "excellent tools", but all I know of what you're seeking is "Flex Builder is not that great". I'm not yet sure how to persuade others to help work to what you want.
Maybe I'm tired, sorry, but can you summarize, into something others can unequivocally understand in a sentence or two? Thanks.
jd/adobe
First you said "Please make Flash into the ultimate console for the web and mobile devices," but instead of learning what you think that might be, there were a number of things you didn't want. There was a request for "consistent performance", but I'm not sure in what environments, with what metrics you saw the key difference. There was a request for "excellent tools", but all I know of what you're seeking is "Flex Builder is not that great". I'm not yet sure how to persuade others to help work to what you want.
Maybe I'm tired, sorry, but can you summarize, into something others can unequivocally understand in a sentence or two? Thanks.
jd/adobe
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Ben Garney
Thanks for coming by. It's good to see Adobe folk participating.
You're totally right, I focused on negatives more than positives. At root what I am asking for is "make sure that the basics work really well, because once you have those 3rd parties can build user-friendly libraries on top of you." Like, when you develop for the XBox 360, you don't get a game engine, but you do get a graphics API that is reliable, you get a minimal sound playback system, you get some very minimal input routines, you get a great compiler and IDE, and some other tools. And on top of that people build lots and lots of great games.
So in each category I touch I am trying to say, don't do a bunch of fancy stuff, just give me something basic that works really well and that I (and others) can build on. Or in some cases, don't do it at all, it's not worth a lot of brain cells.
If you want me to go deeper, please drop me an e-mail and we can have a longer more detailed conversation. ben dot garney at gmail dot com. I want to work with you guys to make things better.
You're totally right, I focused on negatives more than positives. At root what I am asking for is "make sure that the basics work really well, because once you have those 3rd parties can build user-friendly libraries on top of you." Like, when you develop for the XBox 360, you don't get a game engine, but you do get a graphics API that is reliable, you get a minimal sound playback system, you get some very minimal input routines, you get a great compiler and IDE, and some other tools. And on top of that people build lots and lots of great games.
So in each category I touch I am trying to say, don't do a bunch of fancy stuff, just give me something basic that works really well and that I (and others) can build on. Or in some cases, don't do it at all, it's not worth a lot of brain cells.
If you want me to go deeper, please drop me an e-mail and we can have a longer more detailed conversation. ben dot garney at gmail dot com. I want to work with you guys to make things better.
1 week ago
in Untitled Document on the evolving ultrasaurus
Hi Sarah, uh, I've got a dumb question... what is it? ;-)
My best guess is that it's a JavaScript library to more easily communicate and control webcams via Flash... set up your logic in JavaScript, and invoking the bridge routines handles all the Flash-specific stuff. True, or did I guess wrong...?
tx, jd/adobe
My best guess is that it's a JavaScript library to more easily communicate and control webcams via Flash... set up your logic in JavaScript, and invoking the bridge routines handles all the Flash-specific stuff. True, or did I guess wrong...?
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1 reply
ultrasaurus
Well, its not that yet, but the plan is for it to have Javascript interfaces. The idea is that people should be able to record a short video segment on their website without knowing Flash (or OpenLaszlo or Flex or whatever). I was thinking about making a rails view helper for it, so the rails folk don't even need to know Javascript :)
3 weeks ago
in http://eaves.ca/2009/06/08/1342/ on eaves.ca
Thanks for recognizing the dynamic balance between the needs of creators and the needs of consumers:
"The ultimate conclusion however is that JetPack continues to tilt power away from the website creators to viewers. Webpage owners will have still less control over how their websites get viewed, used and understood...."
Sometimes a content creator wants a predictable presentation layer. Sometimes a consumer wants to change that presentation layer. Both needs are valid. The more options we have, the greater the chances that creators and consumers can find a mutually-acceptable contract.
(The alternative -- "everything must be greasmonkeyable, nothing else must be permitted!" -- creates an imbalance, and would deter many creative efforts. Choices help.)
jd/adobe
"The ultimate conclusion however is that JetPack continues to tilt power away from the website creators to viewers. Webpage owners will have still less control over how their websites get viewed, used and understood...."
Sometimes a content creator wants a predictable presentation layer. Sometimes a consumer wants to change that presentation layer. Both needs are valid. The more options we have, the greater the chances that creators and consumers can find a mutually-acceptable contract.
(The alternative -- "everything must be greasmonkeyable, nothing else must be permitted!" -- creates an imbalance, and would deter many creative efforts. Choices help.)
jd/adobe
1 month ago
in How the web was won: Google’s five features to build killer web apps on VentureBeat
"Canvas is designed to work with HTML and JavaScript, without requiring a browser add-on as Flash does. "
But it would require either browser-profiling or asking the visitor to switch browsers... far less friendly than just using a cross-browser capability already in their browser.
"With the video tag in HTML 5, things become much easier. Instead of complex, error-prone embed codes, developers can point to the video in their code much as they now do to images. The video is much more likely to show up and play."
This is the main part I'd ask you to reconsider and investigate further, Anthony. Try visiting some sites which do use this "only in FF3.5" feature, and look at the markup they use to satisfy their visitors. It's _much_ more fragile.
There's a subtler issue with codecs. Right now Mozilla pre-releases play back video encoded as Ogg Theora. Apple seems to be pushing for a VIDEO tag so they can provide H.264 video to mobile. What will happen to that simple VIDEO tag when a Mozilla browser meets Apple content?
jd/adobe
But it would require either browser-profiling or asking the visitor to switch browsers... far less friendly than just using a cross-browser capability already in their browser.
"With the video tag in HTML 5, things become much easier. Instead of complex, error-prone embed codes, developers can point to the video in their code much as they now do to images. The video is much more likely to show up and play."
This is the main part I'd ask you to reconsider and investigate further, Anthony. Try visiting some sites which do use this "only in FF3.5" feature, and look at the markup they use to satisfy their visitors. It's _much_ more fragile.
There's a subtler issue with codecs. Right now Mozilla pre-releases play back video encoded as Ogg Theora. Apple seems to be pushing for a VIDEO tag so they can provide H.264 video to mobile. What will happen to that simple VIDEO tag when a Mozilla browser meets Apple content?
jd/adobe
1 month ago
in Pulling the plug. on the martini shaker*
I like diversity in transport channels. During 9/11 the web locked up, but broadcast was still efficient.
"Single point of failure" becomes your network connection. That's a little scary to me.
jd/adobe
"Single point of failure" becomes your network connection. That's a little scary to me.
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3rdmartini
At this point, we're pretty much "single point of failure" anyway. We're AT&T U-Verse subscribers, so all our programming is IPTV-based anyway.
And, really, by adding a sufficient antenna to pick up local ATSC transmissions, we're kind of better off in that respect than we are now. :)
And, really, by adding a sufficient antenna to pick up local ATSC transmissions, we're kind of better off in that respect than we are now. :)
1 month ago
in Rich mobile browser Skyfire launches version 1.0 on VentureBeat
Hi, Skyfire isn't so much "a browser" as a web service which translates webpages into another format that their clientside software can read, true?
tx, jd/adobe
tx, jd/adobe
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Ned
Then neither SkyFire, IE, Mozilla, Chrome, nor Opera is so much "a browser" because all of them does the same job, which is rendering webpages (oftenly with layout engine support) into something that the platform can understand. Does that return true?
1 month ago
in Vector Entertainment to launch 3-D Flash racing game site on VentureBeat
Hi Dean, I also appreciate the work Vector Entertainment is doing, but to say that graphics in other games "almost always suck" sounds bizarre. Could I persuade you to write a clarification that gets across your idea more clearly...?
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tx, jd/adobe
2 months ago
in Dinosaur Adobe Manually Reviews Download Purchases - louisgray.com on louisgray.com
Hi Louis, if you needed it tonight, you could use it... software's functional before purchase.
That "order needs review" is unusual... I've seen it before when ordering across borders... could be other reasons too.
Sorry for any hassle, but I trust it'll work through without significant incident.
jd/adobe
That "order needs review" is unusual... I've seen it before when ordering across borders... could be other reasons too.
Sorry for any hassle, but I trust it'll work through without significant incident.
jd/adobe
1 reply
Louis Gray
JD, thanks for the note. My concern with trial vs. buy is there are often hassles, such as big watermarks or not being able to save (effectively crippleware). Given Adobe product is well known, I didn't expect to have to try before buying. I'd rather just get instant access.
Of note, we do have CS4 now. It took two orders and a few calls to Adobe, my credit card company and a few live chats, but all should be well now - 24 hours after expected. Just an odd loop we were in for a while.
Of note, we do have CS4 now. It took two orders and a few calls to Adobe, my credit card company and a few live chats, but all should be well now - 24 hours after expected. Just an odd loop we were in for a while.
4 months ago
in How to avoid getting run down by drivers walking around town (Scripting News) on Scripting News
I heard that, buried within the unread catacombs of The Stimulus Bill, is a clause that no pedestrians will be cited for shooting paintball guns at cars which don't use their turn signals or are otherwise hopeless bobos.... ;-)
4 months ago
in How to View Your Otherwise Invisible Flash Cookies on dmiessler.com | grep understanding
"if you use Flash in a standard way you are often sending websites information about the other Flash sites you’ve been to"
Hi, how do you see that as being true? The only way I can see it is if you're talking about third-party content requested across website domains, but there's still a per-domain basis on such third-party content.
Can you clarify? Thanks!
jd/adobe
Hi, how do you see that as being true? The only way I can see it is if you're talking about third-party content requested across website domains, but there's still a per-domain basis on such third-party content.
Can you clarify? Thanks!
jd/adobe
5 months ago
in Flash and AIR: Record downloads, winning platform race on VentureBeat
"Do Mozilla, Myspace or Facebook or similar independent organizations have any numbers that would give credibility to Dowdell's claims?"
huh? me? wha'd I say...? ;-)
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huh? me? wha'd I say...? ;-)
jd/adobe
5 months ago
in Flash and AIR: Record downloads, winning platform race on VentureBeat
"Adobe didn’t include any past adoption numbers for an apples-to-apples comparison"
Hi Anthony, there's some at the census link, and more at the Internet Archive:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/fla...
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.macrome...
Ted Patrick is in Japan, and has a photo of a slide with relative adoption rates:
http://onflash.org/ted/2009/01/flash-player-10-...
tx, jd/adobe
Hi Anthony, there's some at the census link, and more at the Internet Archive:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/fla...
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.macrome...
Ted Patrick is in Japan, and has a photo of a slide with relative adoption rates:
http://onflash.org/ted/2009/01/flash-player-10-...
tx, jd/adobe
1 reply
Anthony Ha
Thanks, John, I updated with your links and some of the other stuff Adobe just sent me.
6 months ago
in Adobe Flash Player on the iPhone would represent direct competition to Apple’s App Store? on Mobilitysite
Howdy, thanks for keeping the faith in the meantime.... ;-)
There's a bunch of questions in there. I'm not able to speak for Steve Jobs on Apple's reasoning.
For "Why was North America slow?", I don't know, but I do know it's real... when I first visited Australia in the mid-90s I was shocked at how prevalent voice-mobiles were, and later in Japan I was shocked at how many people looked at their mobiles. San Francisco is finally starting to catch up. I don't know why, but I do know that Japan, Korea, Asia-Pacific, and Europe were all faster to go to handheld networks, and all faster to move beyond feature-phones to smartphones. This was a prerequisite for mobile Flash use, obviously.
For "current roadmap", Adobe wants to provide predictable interactivity upon any screen... doing for electronic displays what PostScript did for printers, what PDF did for documents. The response to the Open Screen Project has been very strong. Adobe doesn't ship devices itself, so device announcements always come from the people shipping them. This makes specific roadmaps difficult, but the general roadmap is looking pretty good. We're going to do what it takes to establish predictable screen-rendering, across any capable device.
jd/adobe
There's a bunch of questions in there. I'm not able to speak for Steve Jobs on Apple's reasoning.
For "Why was North America slow?", I don't know, but I do know it's real... when I first visited Australia in the mid-90s I was shocked at how prevalent voice-mobiles were, and later in Japan I was shocked at how many people looked at their mobiles. San Francisco is finally starting to catch up. I don't know why, but I do know that Japan, Korea, Asia-Pacific, and Europe were all faster to go to handheld networks, and all faster to move beyond feature-phones to smartphones. This was a prerequisite for mobile Flash use, obviously.
For "current roadmap", Adobe wants to provide predictable interactivity upon any screen... doing for electronic displays what PostScript did for printers, what PDF did for documents. The response to the Open Screen Project has been very strong. Adobe doesn't ship devices itself, so device announcements always come from the people shipping them. This makes specific roadmaps difficult, but the general roadmap is looking pretty good. We're going to do what it takes to establish predictable screen-rendering, across any capable device.
jd/adobe
7 months ago
in Little Shop of Adobe Horrors on They Suck: A Consumer Sounding Board
Sounds like you may be interested in Photoshop Elements, or Photoshop Express then. The Configurator in the new pro Photoshop may be of interest too.
(I liked the Hungry Hippo illustration, by the way, even though I had trouble understanding action games in contrast to strategy games.)
jd/adobe
(I liked the Hungry Hippo illustration, by the way, even though I had trouble understanding action games in contrast to strategy games.)
jd/adobe
11 months ago
in NBC, NFL Deal Puts Adobe One More Step Back on Technosailor
Rule of thumb: If you don't see a Microsoft press release for a high-profile project, then odds are it's not a Silverlight deal.... ;-)
http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section...
jd/adobe
http://www.contentinople.com/author.asp?section...
jd/adobe
12 months ago
in Are blogs still relevant? on the martini shaker*
While reading your post, I realized that one of the big reasons I started blogging was to be able to efficiently respond to a hot issue popping up on a dozen mailing lists or newsgroups.
But now the same dynamic is working against blogging. That "Flash Lite ported to iPhone!" story this week is a good example. There are too many bloggers out there who don't read the issues they're earning ad-revenue from, and who screen out comments which don't match their desired narrative. I'm chasing new iterations of old issues across weblogs, just like I used to chase across mailing lists. PITA.
Twitter is useful for microblogging... a good 140 characters is more readable than some multi-screenful of text in a blog essay. Lots of tweets I see in summize.com are still incomprehensible, though, particularly when set up in a conversational chain. Blog essays are still useful, but they're not the daily habit they were a few years ago.
Maybe keep your weblog, but just change its focus? You've already got your Twitter stream in there, which helps for immediacy. One medium doesn't replace the other, true...?
But now the same dynamic is working against blogging. That "Flash Lite ported to iPhone!" story this week is a good example. There are too many bloggers out there who don't read the issues they're earning ad-revenue from, and who screen out comments which don't match their desired narrative. I'm chasing new iterations of old issues across weblogs, just like I used to chase across mailing lists. PITA.
Twitter is useful for microblogging... a good 140 characters is more readable than some multi-screenful of text in a blog essay. Lots of tweets I see in summize.com are still incomprehensible, though, particularly when set up in a conversational chain. Blog essays are still useful, but they're not the daily habit they were a few years ago.
Maybe keep your weblog, but just change its focus? You've already got your Twitter stream in there, which helps for immediacy. One medium doesn't replace the other, true...?
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3rdmartini
I agree, one doesn't necessarily replace the other - at least for the foreseeable future. See my clarification below.
12 months ago
in Adobe® FAILS Twice in One Day on DygiScape
"I would consider resolution when FreshAIRApps.com can keep their domain without threats from Adobe’s legal team."
Well, that's actually between the other two parties, not you and me, but I do understand Legal's general goal of keeping brandnames out of external products (a web domain location being the product here).
What I'll be working for inside Adobe is a better communication process... the info is public, but when a reminder is necessary, I think we need to handle it more persuasively.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com...
jd/adobe
Well, that's actually between the other two parties, not you and me, but I do understand Legal's general goal of keeping brandnames out of external products (a web domain location being the product here).
What I'll be working for inside Adobe is a better communication process... the info is public, but when a reminder is necessary, I think we need to handle it more persuasively.
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aadobe.com...
jd/adobe
12 months ago
in Adobe® FAILS Twice in One Day on DygiScape
If you'll read the original conversations on the domain-branding issue you'll see it's already under resolution through other channels. (Your "Adobe has yet to publically acknowlege or respond" could use a correction or two.)
And yes, Adobe Reader is a big app. It's far more than just a document-viewing tool. If you think Ben's post turned it into "EPIC FAIL", then I guess I'm glad you didn't pick up on Mark Pilgrim or John Welch yet.... ;-)
jd/adobe
And yes, Adobe Reader is a big app. It's far more than just a document-viewing tool. If you think Ben's post turned it into "EPIC FAIL", then I guess I'm glad you didn't pick up on Mark Pilgrim or John Welch yet.... ;-)
jd/adobe
1 year ago
in Curl, the new RIA Platform, am I missing something? on ExpertRIA
If they can offer something useful, that benefits all of us.
But this exchange sort of colored my view:
http://developers.curl.com/blogs/community_blog...
jd/adobe
But this exchange sort of colored my view:
http://developers.curl.com/blogs/community_blog...
jd/adobe
1 reply
Richard Monson-Haefel
Hi John,
I understand how you feel. We made a mistake publishing that article and we regret it. You can read more about our commitment positive marketing at my blog;
http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/06/fai...
As can happen sometimes, we (Curl) got carried away in the heat of competition. That won't happen again.
All the best,
Richard Monson-Haefel
VP of Developer Relations
Curl, Inc.
I understand how you feel. We made a mistake publishing that article and we regret it. You can read more about our commitment positive marketing at my blog;
http://theclevermonkey.blogspot.com/2008/06/fai...
As can happen sometimes, we (Curl) got carried away in the heat of competition. That won't happen again.
All the best,
Richard Monson-Haefel
VP of Developer Relations
Curl, Inc.
1 year ago
in louisgray.com: Smart People, Stupid Tweets. Fake News Spreads Fast on Twitter. on louisgray.com
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re: "Smart People, Stupid Tweets. Fake News Spreads Fast on Twitter"
That headline reads strangely to me. Smart people don't believe things just on someone else's say-so.
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re: "Smart People, Stupid Tweets. Fake News Spreads Fast on Twitter"
That headline reads strangely to me. Smart people don't believe things just on someone else's say-so.
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1 year ago
in IPhone rumors: Could Adobe lose out on its slice of the Apple pie? on VentureBeat
A pseudonymous commenter said: "I understand that Adobe and Microsoft would like the web locked in to licenses for Flash and/or Silverlight so they can charge for the services and increase their revenue. In general, I distrust these companies in their quest for proprietary control of the web, and their greed."
Maybe we should meet for coffee some day. I'd like to better understand such surprising certainty of belief. ;-)
(An analyst asked Shantanu for news with Apple's iPhone, and he just confirmed the prior quarter's report that technical research was proceeding. I might expect blogospheric tremors if there was something actually shipping, but so many column-inches on so little news almost makes the paparazzi seem genteel.)
jd/adobe
Maybe we should meet for coffee some day. I'd like to better understand such surprising certainty of belief. ;-)
(An analyst asked Shantanu for news with Apple's iPhone, and he just confirmed the prior quarter's report that technical research was proceeding. I might expect blogospheric tremors if there was something actually shipping, but so many column-inches on so little news almost makes the paparazzi seem genteel.)
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1 reply
Anthony Ha
John, I think the iPhone is the tech blogosphere equivalent of Brad and Angelina.
1 year ago
in New Technique for Optimizing Flash Sites for Search and Usability on Marketing Pilgrim
Yes, I didn't go back to 2002 for links, just showed that the links exist. I figured anyone would be able to confirm the info, once they know it exists.
Google has provided mixed and untimely public info on what they do, but if you're part of the two-way conversation, you'll have read about the SEO mythologies for years.
jd/adobe
Google has provided mixed and untimely public info on what they do, but if you're part of the two-way conversation, you'll have read about the SEO mythologies for years.
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