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7 months ago
in Semantic Series of Tubes on Oracle AppsLab
1) Bilton's use case presupposes the capabilities I outline. The key part of his post for realization of the use case is this: "Why not build out an advertising or search API that delivers the latest micro level tags or ad links of users interests?" Delivery of the microformat tags (or ad links) is crucial before the tubes can understand enough of the data to make the vision a reality. This *is* the baby step. Before that can happen, the info must be aggregated (ok RSS is good enough for that) but then the extraction API's (like OpenCalais or ClearForest or even what Oracle SES does) need to be implemented to extract/create the tags. Then the machines can start processing to drive ads or fuzzy search results or whatever. Barring that you still have google algorithm based pattern matching.
2)guilty
3)look at the first result here: http://tinyurl.com/5u3lf5
4)trackback issue fixed
2)guilty
3)look at the first result here: http://tinyurl.com/5u3lf5
4)trackback issue fixed
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Jake
Damn your comment moderating!
I need more use cases to make this real, so we should chat about ways to do this in Connect and OraTweet.
I need more use cases to make this real, so we should chat about ways to do this in Connect and OraTweet.
7 months ago
in Semantic Series of Tubes on Oracle AppsLab
Reply became a blog post here:
http://blogs.oracle.com/fusionecm/2008/12/oracl...
If you're interested in the confluence of Web 2.0, Social Computing (FOAF specifically) and the Semantic web, you should read "Linking Social Networks on the Web with FOAF: A Semantic Web Case Study. " by Dr. Jennifer Golbeck from UMD. here's the link: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~golbeck/publications.shtml
http://blogs.oracle.com/fusionecm/2008/12/oracl...
If you're interested in the confluence of Web 2.0, Social Computing (FOAF specifically) and the Semantic web, you should read "Linking Social Networks on the Web with FOAF: A Semantic Web Case Study. " by Dr. Jennifer Golbeck from UMD. here's the link: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~golbeck/publications.shtml
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Jake
Sure, I get that semantic web is better what than what is described, but there are a couple problems natch:
1) Does the consumer web care about what's better right now? Meh, I think Bilton's use cases appeal to the now, not to the what could be better. It's baby stepping.
2) Your post sounds like the mad scientist stuff that makes semantic web too heady for my taste.
3) Does all that stuff you mention support MySQL? Me doubts that. Most of the consumer web data out there are not stored in Oracle. The LAMP stack types won't buy Oracle Spatial and all those other great products. There's no capital for that, especially now. So, how can you realize all that potential?
And hey thanks for the trackback, while you leave one here :)
1) Does the consumer web care about what's better right now? Meh, I think Bilton's use cases appeal to the now, not to the what could be better. It's baby stepping.
2) Your post sounds like the mad scientist stuff that makes semantic web too heady for my taste.
3) Does all that stuff you mention support MySQL? Me doubts that. Most of the consumer web data out there are not stored in Oracle. The LAMP stack types won't buy Oracle Spatial and all those other great products. There's no capital for that, especially now. So, how can you realize all that potential?
And hey thanks for the trackback, while you leave one here :)
7 months ago
in I Got ID on Oracle AppsLab
the advantage I see to the OpenID play over the FB play is with the profile portability. I want to own my network (and it's sub sets - work friends, old HighSchool and College Friends, Family etc) and bring that anywhere I go rather than rebuilding it each time I find something interesting. FB doesn't want me to do that and that's one way the keep me in their walled garden.
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Jake
You're talking about data portability, which is another major component of the open web. Google has been pretty supportive of the open web so far with OpenSocial, Friend Connect, OpenID support. As you say, FB is not and won't be.
The problem is that FB has critical mass, and the average user doesn't care about open vs. closed web, walled gardens, any of that crap. Look at AOL and Microsoft for examples.
There's room for both, but for how long?
The problem is that FB has critical mass, and the average user doesn't care about open vs. closed web, walled gardens, any of that crap. Look at AOL and Microsoft for examples.
There's room for both, but for how long?
2) Refer to 1.
3) Great, that's not Oracle Spatial though. Are they equivalent? What about all the other products you list? Just wondering how the gap closes between the really useful data and the products.
4) Not an issue, just something I noticed. I like to rattle your cage.
Bonus points for using letmegooglethatforyou.