DISQUS

Now you're claiming that no one with any experience hacks on Rails? And your example isn't someone who actually hacks on Catalyst, but on Perl modules? Wow, now who's the fanboi?.

It may surprise you, but there are plenty of experienced developers/engineering types writing ruby (and rails) code! Amazing, huh? Another amazing fact is that there half-baked former php'rs writing Perl code too! There just isn't quite as many of them since Perl hasn't been the 'cool new thing' for quite some time.

@Uncle Jesse:

"I’m speaking as an outsider here - maybe you Rails people can listen and learn, rather than making fun of us and your own who criticize"

Listen and learn what? Great insights like "Ruby on Rails is weak right now, it’s breaking apart from the inside.". You've written nothing of substance, you decree that Catalyst is "much more Robust, more scalable package" with nothing to back it up.

Your writing remind me of those people who Zed was criticizing. How ironic.

@Uncle Jesse:

Perl + CPAN is not unique in this regard. Many ruby gems come with a full suite of functional + unit tests.

If you want your patch to Rails to be accepted, you must provide tests in your patch or it will be rejected. It also needs at least 3 people to peer review and approve your patch, and a core contributor has the final say if it gets accepted or not.

"Ruby on Rails is weak right now, it’s breaking apart from the inside."

Not at all. Zed has not gotten along with some members of the core team for quite a while now. He just went public with it in his usual over-dramatic fashion (note: zed has never been a part of the core team)

"My message to the Perl community is this - step in, do something! Promote the heck out of Catalyst now"

Ok, you totally missed the point of the article. Zed's rant was largely to do about how 'promoting the heck' out of Rails has attracted all sorts of newbies to the platform (thus turning it into a ghetto). It has also attracted all of the wannabe entrepreneurs who are looking for a silver bullet to solve their development problem. Would you want the same to happen to Catalyst?