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Re: Scoble and his Facebook data (Scripting News)

william — Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:19:52 -0000

1. You are not a share cropper- Break the chains
2. Be a rebel
3. Change the game
4. Believe in the possibilities
5. Do good
6. At adelph.us "Open" means-
1. Whenever possible using Open Source applications
2. Whenever possible offering the hosted use of these applications free of charge to members
3. Always writing code using existing Open Source standards that are not proprietary or owned by a company ie (Face Book and the rest)
4. Empowering the community (Individuals, Groups, Non Profits, and Companies) with tools that help them to save time and resources
5. Evening the playing field
6. Giving back to the community
7. Giving back to Open Source
8. You control all access of your account
9. You control all access to your content
7. You have the right to control the conversations that you have with Companies
1. You have the right to choose the who, what, when, and where of this conversation
2. Companies must contribute to the community before they can be included in any conversation
3. Whenever possible the entire community should benefit from these conversations
8. You control your account -
1. We will never give your personal data to any third parties without your permission
2. You have control over who has access to your profile information
3. You have control over who has access to your content
4. At anytime you are free to delete your account
5. When you delete your account it is cleared from our Database

Re: The UGC limb, day 2 (Scripting News)

william — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:57:22 -0000

I agree with all of your points. I think that one of the biggest use of share UGC share cropping to increase a companies value without giving any back to the community that has give it value are facebook and myspace.

How come the user that have contributed to the success of facebook and myspace do not share in any of the companies real or potential economic wealth ?

I think that very soon there will be an opensource model that will tip all of this on its head

Re: Early notes on GoogleApps (Scripting News)

william — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:46:42 -0000

This seems so very much like dark days of the Microsoft OS monopoly. Who can forget the memories of; stifled competition, and price fixing. In this case Google does the arm twisting AND knuckle cracking by dropping the pricing of a service to free. Goolge is using the advantage of massive scale built on the backs of consumers and media to choke the life out of them and any competitor.

Do we now face a world where all apps are run on the google platform and coded to their specifications. Have we forgotten what happened to Borland, Netscape, and Novel.

Make no bones about it; Google is trying to be the next OS at any cost. If they go on this path unchallenged we will see the snuffing out of a vibrant industry that was once the home of rebels that believed in the possibilities and the freedom of choice.

It is also clear that Google is the biggest danger to Open Source software that we have ever seen.
Where is the cloud/OS for those of us that want a choice and don't think its a good idea for one company to own the very life of the internet.

We at adelph.us will be launching an alternative

"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe."

"You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. Remember -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."

from the Matrix written by Andy Wachowski & Larry Wachowski

Re: How will Twitter make money? (Scripting News)

william — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:07:56 -0000

To me twitter still has vestiges of a share cropping. Members work and plow Twitterville; bringing to life abundant crops of actions and content that raise the value of twitter. And in return for the hard work that allows Twitter to raise funds and gain value the workers receive the right to be charged for using the very application that they have made valuable. This is Share Cropping at its best.

When there is a revenue model will Twitter give any of this revenue that is generated from the works of members back to the Twitter "Community" or to the "Community" at large ?

What is the revenue model for the "Community" that adds value ?
If the "Community" adds value and Twitter is acquired; the "Community" will receive no benefit other that the privilege of working the fields for the new boss

Re: Is Twitter journalism? (Scripting News)

william — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:05:45 -0000

Twitter can be used as a news service. However because this is done as a second thought it is not well organized as there is no systematic way to enter news so that it can be easily found and separated from the noise.
Because of this there is no easy and fast way to search for this information.

We have built have integrated a news posting service into our micro blog “Conversations” This ability to post news to the microblog is also integrated into our feed reader and both services post to twitter.
We you search on adelph.us for a news story you will receive results that are from both main stream media as well as from related micro blogs.

Re: Yes, Twitter is a source of journalism

william — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:12:22 -0000

Re: Social network Moli raises another $29.6 million, to take on Facebook, LinkedIn

william — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:16:27 -0000

hmmmmm
I think that openid can handle most of what MOLI is trying to do....and I dont think any closed source solution can give a user control of their content.....also what about allowing a user to export their info....

Re: Google’s Social Graph API: Take your friends anywhere on the web

william — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:56:04 -0000

So this is a goog initiative to take control of all individuals private relationships on the web ?

If they are so good and relay want users and developers to be in control; why not open source the project ?....oh that would mean that they would no longer be in control....so its not going to happen

Re: Facebook changes invite process for apps — latest step in refining the platform

william — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 06:17:47 -0000

Facebook forces developers to use a propitiatory language (fbhtml) to create there applications. Why dont they use an open source standard ?

It was not long ago that a developer would would think twice about porting there work to a closed propitiatory application (FB is not a platfrom, it is a silo)

What if FB changes the rules or the code for an application. Who loses then. The developers lose.

The FB developer application program can only be looked at for what it is; a way to enslave developers to innovate for them....and because the used a closed language and own the rules...FB can decide that the developers ideas is good and they can decide to do it on their own....leaving the developer with nothing for their innovation....Facebook will not use open standadrs because this would keep them honest....With an Open Standards program If FB decided to steal/kill off an application that developers had created...The application could live on and be easily ported to other applications....But FB will never do this....They are only in it to generate revenue on the backs of developers and members that are content creators

Re: Early Twine review: Twitter meets Wikipedia

william — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:08:09 -0000

Twine seems to me to be a very good idea, and the appear to be executing on their vision.

One thing that I m wondering about is do I want to give information to a semantic product that is not open source.
What will happen if Twine does something that allows advertisers to have access to my information with out my approval. Are there any access rules in Twine that would allow me to say who can and cannot have my information.
What would happen if Twine were about to be purchased by Microsoft or Google and because of this I wanted to leave the service......I could leave the service....but because it is not Open Source I would not have anywhere to go....Open Source keeps companies honest and gives developers and members the possibility of having another option....

Re: Steve Jobs is writing checks that iTunes can't cash

william — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:24:21 -0000

I think that if you burn a cd of the music that you purchased on itunes that you can then play the music on another device.

If this is the case then the music you purchase from itunes is interoperable.

.....hmmmm....ipods, ipod touch, iphone....Thanks for the music Amazon...to bad you cant design a player

Re: Wetpaint to bring wikis and more to any website

william — Mon, 19 May 2008 01:29:56 -0000

There are many open source solutions that are easy to use and that are free and much more customizable.

Re: FriendFeed spices up its iPhone interface, integration with Mail2FF begins

william — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:19:18 -0000

I think that Friend Feed is a Google Proxy in the life streaming space. I look for them to be purchased by google before the fall.

Re: MySpace’s self-serve advertising program has been off to a promising start

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:42:14 -0000

This is a nice move by myspace; but it continues to follow their stale old act of creating large amounts of revenue on the backs of members and their content.

myspace is easily worth at least a billion, and where is the value coming from other than members/the communities content and activities.

How much ad revenue is myspace sharing with members that generate ad revenue for them ? Are they giving anything back to the community that has put them where they are ?

I am technology consultant, and this summer I became so feed up with the share cropper mentality of sites like myspace that I decided to build an application that shares the wealth that is created with the community.

We also have a stand alone ad service and we have a granular micro revenue sharing service that allows members to share their revenue with Friends, Groups, or Causes.

And unlike myspace and the rest we will be releasing most of the service to the open source community because we know we are not the smartest guys in the room.

Re: MySpace on target to do $1B in sales this year, defies downturn

william — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:40:33 -0000

This is great. Myspace makes 1 billion in sales on the backs of members actions and content.....And in return we are give "Free" use of their technology.

Maybe it is time that members realize that being a part of the myspace community is very much like being a share cropper. You grow the food, but you cant own the land that you cultivate. You are only allowed a few crumbs to survive until your hard labor produces the next crop.

It is time for the community to take back their content and to receive a benefit for the fruits of their content an actions.

At adelph.us we believe that members that are selling products and members that build a strong community following can work hand in hand. We belive that giving all members of the community the ability to earn revenue and build intrest is a key to having a community where there always exist an opportunity to create and share.

All products that are added to a members adelph.us store are automatically available for resell by any other members of the community. The default affiliate rate for all products in adelph.us stores is 5% of the product sale price. Sellers can opt to change this to a higher rate.

All members have the option of sharing the revenue from product sells with; friends, or groups.

In addition to this adelph.us will donate a portion of its revenue to the adelph.us community bank each time a product is sold.

When a member sees a product on adelph.us that the would like to sell; all they need to do to is click the “Resell This” link that is at the bottom of all product details pages. Once this is done the product is added to the members store where it is available for purchase by other members.

Re: FriendFeed goes where Twitter can’t: IM

william — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:00:33 -0000

Laconi.ca has had this feature since they launched; so friend feed has not done anything new....they only added/copied an existing feature of a competitor; something the seem to do well.

Friend Feed is not Open Source and therefore in my view is not "Open"....in this case they are "Open" in a myspace or facebook style...They want your actions and your content to raise their valuation in in return they will give you nothing; not even the source code to the application that you have given value. To me Friend Feed as nothing more than web 2.0 Share cropping system.

We are going to take on Friend Feed as well as Twitter. Our Application is Open Source and we also give part of our revenue back the community....

The site is here http://www.adelph.us
The blog is here http://adelph.us/alpha/the-blog/

Re: Revenue search continues, as Facebook (and LinkedIn) employee stock sale begins

william — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:01:44 -0000

Facebook is the grinch that stole christmas

What about stock option for members/content creators that have given Facebook their Value ?

Maybe in these hard financial times Facebook should be thinking about how it can help its members and users; save, time, money, and maybe even generate revenue.

I think that this is only fair since Facebook has generated a 15 Billion dollar valuations on the back of members content and actions.

At adelph.us we think its time to turn the web 2.0 share cropper model on its head.

Demand something in exchange for your content. It has value.

At adelph.us we put the community first and bring the main street web into reality.

Re: Windows Live becomes more social network-like — but who’s going to use it?

william — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:32:11 -0000

This is great...All we need are more closed source giants (Goolge, MicroSoft, Facebook, MySpace) creating new ways to make billions on the backs of members/content creators and developers.

Free your mind and the Rest will follow

Some things about www.adelph.us

1. You are not a share cropper- Break the chains
2. Be a rebel
3. Change the game
4. Believe in the possibilities
5. Do good

At adelph.us "Open" means :

1. Whenever possible using Open Source applications
2. Whenever possible offering the hosted use of applications free of charge to members
3. Always writing code using existing Open Source standards that are not proprietary or owned by a company ie (Face Book and the rest)
4. Empowering the community (Individuals, Groups, Non Profits, and Companies) with tools that help them to save time and resources
5. Evening the playing field
6. Giving back to the community
7. Giving back to Open Source
8. You control all access of your account
9. You control all access to your content

Re: Monetizing social networks: The good, bad and ugly

william — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:51:02 -0000

Great Article
We have built a Social Network that generates revenue for members through "Conversations" that members have with one another.
Many of the service on adelph.us were built around concepts from the" Clue Train Manifesto" as well as Marshall McLuhan "The medium is the message"

We understand that the value is in members "Conversations" with one another and that advertisements are an interruption.

Some things about www.adelph.us

1. You are not a share cropper- Break the chains
2. Be a rebel
3. Change the game
4. Believe in the possibilities
5. Do good

At adelph.us "Open" means :

1. Whenever possible using Open Source applications
2. Whenever possible offering the hosted use of applications free of charge to members
3. Always writing code using existing Open Source standards that are not proprietary or owned by a company ie (Face Book and the rest)
4. Empowering the community (Individuals, Groups, Non Profits, and Companies) with tools that help them to save time and resources
5. Evening the playing field
6. Giving back to the community
7. Giving back to Open Source
8. You control all access of your account
9. You control all access to your conte

Re: Report: Facebook not in trouble, still planning world domination

william — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:37:27 -0000

Great
Just what the world needs is another closed source technology monopoly.
Facebook's ability to raise funds and to have a high valuation is built on the backs of members content and actions. And for this members receive the free use of a closed source application that could be built in less than 6 months for under 100,000 euros, and that exist somewhere in Open Source at no cost.

Maybe it would be a bit fair to the members if they could at least have a copy of the software that their content has help to give a value to ? Maybe this way if Facebook decides to pull another Beacon; members have the choice of building a service that they want without having to be forced into being revenue Guinea Pigs for FaceBook.

Re: CNN quakes as Twitter rapid fires Mumbai news

william — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:28:43 -0000

Twitter can be used as a news service. However because this is done as a second thought it is not well organized as there is no systematic way to enter news so that it can be easily found and separated from the noise.
Because of this there is no easy and fast way to search for this information.

We have built have integrated a news posting service into our micro blog “Conversations” This ability to post news to the microblog is also integrated into our feed reader and both services post to twitter.
When you search on adelph.us for a news story you will receive results that are from both main stream media as well as from related micro blogs.

Re: Google Friend Connect tries to sneak up on Facebook Connect (again)

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:42:21 -0000

Hail to the Thieves

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have give users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding or Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

Re: Redesigned Google Reader is prettier, less guilt-inducing

william — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:42:47 -0000

Nice.
A closed source reader that could have many more features if it were Open Source.

We also have a reader. It has most of the same features that the big Google pr machine is pushing and a few that they do not have but will probably copy.

We are going to release our reader into Open Source.

Some adelph.us Reader Features

* Feed Reader tightly integrated into adelph.us social communication platform
* Easy to use and intuitive user interface
* Add feeds from an existing OPML file
* Add rss/atom feeds as well as feeds from existing social services
* Share feed items with a note ( Public, Private, Friend (s), Group(s) )
* Email feed items with a note
* Tag feed item
* Tag Feed
* Re Publish feed item to blog
* Re Publish entire feed to blog
* Tabbed feed viewing
* Feed viewing options (Bottom, Right, Hide)
* Integrated feed search
* Latest feeds section (Shows feeds from the last 1 hour, 2 hours, 5 hours)
* Full integration with “Conversations” micro blogging service.
* Feeds can be pushed to member created channels
* Push Feeds to twitter

Re: Confused yet? Fighting Facebook (and Google), MySpace updates data-sharing service

william — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:18:41 -0000

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have give users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies (Myspace,Facebook, Gog) in a race to become the "Standard" for holding or Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

Open Source developers, please do not write any code to extend the propitiatory services of Facebook. They are not your "Friend" When you write code for a company like Facebok you undermine the integrity of the Open Web.

Re: Twitter disses Nasza Klasa (Poland’s social network)

william — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:21:54 -0000

Great to hear that Twitter (Closed Source) and Facebook and Google (All Closed Sourced) are all working together to keep users content locked into each others silos.

Also great to hear that members who give value to all of these companies will receive nothing in return.

Re: Twitter has made Dell $1 million in revenue

william — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:27:18 -0000

1 milllion for dell and 0 for members that give twitter there content.

Re: Twitter: Google Friend Connect’s social hub for the web?

william — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:07:09 -0000

Hail to the Thieves

Facebook Connect, Google Open Social, and twitter the closed source content trap are all a slap in the face to the Open Principals of the internet.

Any developer and proponent of a truly Open web must take an active roll in pushing for the success of Laconica and OpenID and should not help to extend any closed source application.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and creates. These companies will leverage our content to create revenue; giving nothing back to the content owners or to the community.

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

Open Source developers, please do not write any code to extend the propitiatory services of closed source applications . They are not your "Friend" When you write code for these companies you undermine the integrity of the Open Web.

Re: Google Reader quietly launches a “What’s hot” area. Where’s the “most shared” area?

william — Sat, 20 Dec 2008 11:10:44 -0000

This is amazing... We have a better feature set in our reader than google reader and we give something back to community projects and open source.....

http://adelph.us/the-blog/

Re: Google Reader quietly launches a “What’s hot” area. Where’s the “most shared” area?

william — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:44:53 -0000

We have this at adelph.us....Do you work for GoG ?

Re: Hitwise: Facebook growing, rivals shrinking in U.S.

william — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:26:27 -0000

Developers and content creators of the world, it is time to free yourselves from the share cropping model that is Facebook and web 2.0.

What will face book give back to the developer community for their efforts ?
Will face book share a percentage of the value that is created in their company with the developers and content creators that have added most of the companies value

The value that the content creators and the developers add is something that is measurable. I doubt Microsoft invested close to a billion dollars in face book for their technology.

How does developing for facebook help anyone but facebook ?

Why does developing for facebook involve using non standard development methods when there are well known open source standards that could be used ? Because facebook wants to be the standard and they want you to develop for their platform so that you can help them become the standard. I think we have seen this before; and we are still living with the repercussions.

Developers you have choices to make. I understand if you develop apps for facebook or any other non open standard platform. But please understand that there are ramifications for the choices that you make that go far beyond the facebook silo

Re: Stop chatting! Meebo forced to remove Facebook IM integration

william — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:28:13 -0000

Hail to the Thieves

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have given users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. Unlike Facebook we also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 share cropping model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from r identity,relationships, content,or code

Re: Custom tags to make Facebook apps faster, more interesting and ubiquitous

william — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:34:37 -0000

The Elephant in the room

If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook.

By using Facebook you are essentially raising the value of their company and their application Facebook is a closed source content silos that does not allow you to control the content that you create.

Facebook does not put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Facebook puts their Facebook first above the members and communities that have given them value and revenue.

If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook ; but I do not believe that Facebook will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because Facebook is a closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with.

As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebooks propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet.

Content owners and Developers do not help closed source companies (Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return.

Re: CNN, Facebook win presidential inauguration live-streaming contest (kinda)

william — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:50:28 -0000

If they win we all lose.

I think that it is very ironic that CNN an old mono directional media company and Facebook a web 2.0 closed source content sharecropping silo have teamed up on a day that we should associate with freedom and fairness.

Re: louisgray.com: I'm Evangelizing RSS With Google Reader's E-mail Function

william — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:38:22 -0000

Great Post....But Google Should not have the only reader with cred, especially since it is not open source...
I m also a feed junky, and because I wanted to have some features not available in most feed readers; I have designed a feed reader that matches and best Google reader in many areas. To make sure that the adelph.us feed reader can continue to evolve with the best features in the near future we will be releasing it with an Open Source license.

Re: louisgray.com: With Facebook Connect, Google Has Unique Integration Opportunity

william — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:31:33 -0000

There is noting "Open" about "Open" Social. It can only been seen for what it is; a plan by Facebook to continue to raise their revenue and values on backs of other sites content and members.

Developers and content creators of the world, it is time to free yourselves from the share cropping model that is web 2.0.

What will facebook give back to the developer community for their efforts ?

Will face book share a percentage of the value that is created in their company with the developers and content creators that have added the most value.

The value of that content creators and the developers add is something that is measurable. I doubt Microsoft invested close to a billion dollars in face book for their technology.

How does developing for face book or integrating "Open" Social help anyone but facebook ?

Why does developing for face book involve using non standard development methods when there are well known open source standards that could be used ? Because facebook like Microsoft and Google wants to be the standard and they want you to develop for their platform so that you can help them become the standard. I think we have seen this before; and we are still living with the repercussions.

Re: louisgray.com: FriendFeed and Enjit: Open Up the Firehose to the Entire Social Web

william — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:54:13 -0000

Cooool Service !!!!
We have been doing this for a while with our micro blogging service "Conversations"
At adelph.us we believe that "Conversations" is the new command line
We also have many more features that push items from our top of the line news reader to "Conversations" and then to IM/SMS
We are also using "Conversations" to allow members to let other members know their buying intentions by simply typing in <$ product name $>
In the coming weeks we will also be rolling out several very viable ways for user of "Conversations" to generate some revenue using the service

Re: louisgray.com: FriendFeed Launches Instant Messaging Client

william — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:50:02 -0000

Loius
Laconi.ca has had this feature since they launched; so friend feed has not done anything new....they only added/copied an existing feature of a competitor; something the seem to do well.

Friend Feed is not Open Source and therefore in my view is not "Open"....in this case they are "Open" in a myspace or facebook style...They want your actions and your content to raise their valuation in in return they will give you nothing; not even the source code to the application that you have given value. To me Friend Feed as nothing more than web 2.0 Share cropping system.

Re: louisgray.com: FriendFeed Launches Instant Messaging Client

william — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:55:19 -0000

Our Social Communication platform also allows for updates via IM, and SMS.
We are going to take on Friend Feed as well as Twitter. Our Application is Open Source and we also give part of our revenue back the community....

The site is here http://www.adelph.us
The blog is here http://adelph.us/alpha/the-blog/

Re: louisgray.com: It's Not About the Technology, Stupid

william — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:47:41 -0000

Loius
Great Post !!!!
I think that your points about addressing the needs of regular "main street" users in language that we understand.

Re: louisgray.com: Twitter Withdraws Plans for Supporting OpenMicroblogging

william — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:37:15 -0000

Re: louisgray.com: Every Time I Try To Embrace Twitter, They Push Us Away

william — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:49:38 -0000

The Elephant in the room

If you are an Open Source Developer or Content creator (If you are a member of either service you are a content creator) you should not use Facebook or Twitter.

By using Facebook or Twitter you are essentially raising the value of their companies and applications. Both Facebook and Twitter are closed source content silos that do not allow you to control the content that you create. Neither Facebook or Twitter put the content creator/members at the top of their pyramids when thinking about revenue models. Each of these companies puts their Companies first above the members and communities that have given them value and money.

If you are a developer you may be able to make some money by creating applications for Facebook or Twitter ; but I do not believe that Facebook or Twitter will ever allow your application to eat into their user base or their revenue. Because they are both closed source companies that have the ability to literally cut you off by changing the code/api or by using their proprietary knowledge to build an application that you can not possibly compete with. As a coder understand that when you build and extend Facebook or Twitters propitiatory platforms that you undermine the longevity of the Open Internet.

Content owners and Developers do not help these closed source companies (Twitter and Facebook) in their goal of creating another closed source content trap that will extract hundreds of Millions on dollars from their member and developer communities and give nothing back in return.

Re: The “Community Wordpress Facebook Plugin” - Why You Should Contribute

william — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:43:35 -0000

Jesse
I ageee with on all of your points. It seems very sad that we are in a time where developer and content contributors are no more than share croppers. Bringing users and revenue to the like of Facebook and receiving nothing in return for their contribution. No respect for the hard work of the communities that have generated revenue interest and money for them.

Developers and content contributors should not give there time to create apps for companies that pretend to support them but in the end compete against them, and give none of the value created by contributors back to the community.

Re: Twitter News Network? You’ve got to be kidding

william — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:43:53 -0000

Twitter can be used as a news service. However because this is done as a second thought it is not well organized as there is no systematic way to enter news so that it can be easily found and separated from the noise.
Because of this there is no easy and fast way to search for this information.

We have built have integrated a news posting service into our micro blog “Conversations” This ability to post news to the microblog is also integrated into our feed reader and both services post to twitter.
When you search on adelph.us for a news story you will receive results that are from both main stream media as well as from related micro blogs.

Re: Fail: Twitter now not going to support OpenMicroblogging

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:06:11 -0000

Open Source Developers and users, Break the chains of web 2.0 share cropping. Understand that Twitter is a closed source application.

Twitter the friendly little bird wants to become a closed source monopoly. Twitter wants to lock you and your content into their closed silo and they want to generate millions in revenue off of your content, and for this they will give nothing back to you or your community .

With an Open Source solution you at least have a copy of the application that you have given value. With Open Source you have a choice. If you want to do things differently you are “Free” to take the software and do so. This kind of Freedom also keeps any ideas of vendor/data/content lock in out of the picture.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. We also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust the our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from you

Re: I Get My News on Twitter and How to do it Better

william — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:25:56 -0000

Twitter can be used as a news service. However because this is done as a second thought it is not well organized as there is no systematic way to enter news so that it can be easily found and separated from the noise.
Because of this there is no easy and fast way to search for this information.

We have built have integrated a news posting service into our micro blog “Conversations” This ability to post news to the microblog is also integrated into our feed reader and both services post to twitter.
When you search on adelph.us for a news story you will receive results that are from both main stream media as well as from related micro blogs.

Re: MoMB: MySpace MyAds

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:20:23 -0000

Re: Will OpenID Lose to Facebook Connect?

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:23:28 -0000

Re: Google Friend Connect Makes a Hard Push

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:35:39 -0000

Hail to the Thieves

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have give users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding or Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. We also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust the our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from you

Re: MySpace Renames Data Availability to MySpace ID

william — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:37:11 -0000

Hail to the thieves

There is already an Open standard for identity on the internet.
OpenID allows users to control their online identity without have any vendor lock on.
OpenID works and allows for user control. We do not need any other vendor driven proprietary online identity solutions. In this area it seems that if the solution starts with the name of a company you can be fairly certain it is proprietary and is a one sided relationship that is tilted to the vendor

The Myspace and Facebook ID initiatives are a slap in the face to the Open Principals of the internet.

Any developer and proponent of a truly Open web must take an active roll in pushing for the success of OpenID.

In my view this is an area where one cannot be on the side lines, we have to take an active roll in making sure that members identities and their data are owned by members and not companies that want to lock in with proprietary solutions.

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have give users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content. Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding or Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

Re: Why Facebook?

william — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:38:28 -0000

Great Post. I think that something that is missed in many of the discussions about FaceBook abd other social networks is that they owe much of their high valuation (In the case of Facebook the valuation is in the billions) to members created content and actions.

We have also just launched an alpha of our hybrid Social Network.
Unlike Microsoft and Facebook and Myspace and Ning; we are Open Source and we also give back to our "Community"

adelph.us can be found here http://www.adelph.us
Some of the feature of adelph.us are:

A top of the line Read/Write/Re Publish feed reader.
A stand alone advertising Network
Integrated Classifieds Service
Integrated Music Store (Using SongBird)
Integrated Application Store
Integrated Products sells and Product affiliate sells service
Integrated e-commerce service (Handles Micro Payments and Revenue Sharing)
Super Distributed Micro Blogging Service "Conversations"

We are also in the process of launching a hosted service

Re: Microsoft turns Live.com into a social network leveraging their IM social graph

william — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:59:28 -0000

We have also just launched an alpha of our hybrid Social Network.
Unlike Microsoft and Facebook and Myspace and Ning; we are Open Source and we also give back to our "Community"

The social network that can be found here http://www.adelph.us
Some of the feature of adelph.us are:

A top of the line Read/Write/Re Publish feed reader.
A stand alone advertising Network
Integrated Classifieds Service
Integrated Music Store (Using SongBird)
Integrated Application Store
Integrated Products sells and Product affiliate sells service
Integrated e-commerce service (Handles Micro Payments and Revenue Sharing)
Super Distributed Micro Blogging Service "Conversations"

We are also in the process of launching a hosted service

Re: Private: Twitter Apps Can Only Grow so Far

william — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 03:45:54 -0000

Re: 2008/10/12/myads/

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:16:47 -0000

Re: 2008/10/19/facebook-developer-garage-ny/

william — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:52:53 -0000

Developers and content creators of the world, it is time to free yourselves from the share cropping model that is web 2.0.

What will face book give back to the developer community for their efforts ?
Will face book share a percentage of the value that is created in their company with the developers and content creators that have add the most value.

The value of that content creators and the developers add is something that is measurable. I doubt Microsoft invested close to a billion dollars in face book for their technology.

How does developing for face book help anyone but facebook ?
Once you do the development work for facebook your app will not work easily outside of the face book plantation. This means that Face Book owns your application as well as the data of members that you have helped them capture.

Why does developing for face book involve using non standard development methods when there are well known open source standards that could be used ? Because facebook wants to be the standard and they want you to develop for their platform so that you can help them become the standard. I think we have seen this before; and we are still living with the repercussions.

Developers you have choices to make. I understand if you develop apps for facebook or any other non open standard platform. But please understand that their are ramifications for the choices that you make that go far beyond the facbook and myspace silos.

Re: MySpace!

william — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:11:27 -0000

Myspace sucks the life out of members and communities, stop feeding Rupert money, he does not need it...and it is your content...Maybe the revenue model should put members and communities first....Myspace continues to follow their stale old act of creating large amounts of revenue on the backs of members and their content.

myspace is easily worth at least a billion, and where is the value coming from other than members/the communities content and activities.

How much ad revenue is myspace sharing with members that generate ad revenue for them ? Are they giving anything back to the community that has put them where they are ?

I am technology consultant, and this summer I became so feed up with the share cropper mentality of sites like myspace that I decided to build an application that shares the wealth that is created with the community.

We also have a stand alone ad service and we have a granular micro revenue sharing service that allows members to share their revenue with Friends, Groups, or Causes.

And unlike myspace and the rest we will be releasing most of the service to the open source community because we know we are not the smartest guys in the room.

Re: 2008/10/22/myspace-music-ioda/

william — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:25:48 -0000

This is a nice move by myspace; but it continues to follow their stale old act of creating large amounts of revenue on the backs of independent artist and their content.

myspace is easily worth at least a billion, and where is the value coming from other than artist and memberscontent and activities.

How much ad revenue is myspace sharing with members that generate ad revenue for them ? Are they giving anything back to the community that has put them where they are ?

I am technology consultant, and this summer I became so feed up with the share cropper mentality of sites like myspace that I decided to build an application that shares the wealth that is created with the community.

At adelph.us we believe that Artist should have the best tools available to connect with their fans and to distribute and sell their music. We think that artist should have an easy way to build a fan base and to allow their fans to also be rewarded for spreading the word and the music.

With adelph.us the artist owns the content. With adelph.us the artist controls the price. With adelph.us the artist can generate interest as well as sells.

Re: How Can Facebook Crack its Advertising Problem?

william — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:58:31 -0000

Re: 2008/12/16/twitter-dell-million/

william — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:31:32 -0000

Re: 2009/01/21/twitter-api-gets-limited/

william — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:46:49 -0000

Re: MyAds Officially Launches on MySpace

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:23:21 -0000

Re: MyAds Officially Launches on MySpace

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:23:21 -0000

Re: Twitter Needs Two Channels

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:17:29 -0000

Hail to the Thief

Open Source Developers and users, Break the chains of web 2.0 share cropping. Understand that Twitter is a closed source application.

Twitter the friendly little bird wants to become a closed source monopoly. Twitter wants to lock you and your content into their closed silo and they want to generate millions in revenue off of your content, and for this they will give nothing back to you or your community .

With an Open Source solution you at least have a copy of the application that you have given value. With Open Source you have a choice. If you want to do things differently you are “Free” to take the software and do so. This kind of Freedom also keeps any ideas of vendor/data/content lock in out of the picture.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. We also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust the our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from you

Re: Google starts linking social networks

william — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 13:15:34 -0000

If Microsoft would have done this we would up in arms….
Google does not control the relationships or the api……Just like they dont control any of the content that they spider that does not belong to them…..and turn this content that they dont own into billons of dollars for Google and very little for the original creators of the content….If goog is so good….why don’t they open source the entire project and create a non profit to run “Open” Social….They will not do this because they want to corner the market on the indexing of relationships that should be owned and controlled by the end users and not Google…Will Google ask me for permission to crawl my relationships ?

Can I delete my relationships from the Google servers…The data is on Google’s servers….and they are a company…so they do own the data…
....How is this better than facebook ?

Did Google contact any of the other companies that have social networks to ask them for their input ?
No….

Will there be a standards committee that allows end users and companies other than Google to have some input into “Open” Social..Dont hold your breath….its not going to happen…

Any initiative to deal with a “Social” Graph should not be run by anyone company…Google is a company and we should stop fooling ourselves that they are in business for the public “Good”.
Google is in Business to make money and this means that by their nature they will try to dominate with little to no regard to any notion of an open standard that would even the playing field for their competitors.

Re: Breaking: MySpace MyAds Enters Public Beta

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:14:37 -0000

Re: Facebook Connect: Why and how to use it on your website

william — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:25:40 -0000

Re: Facebook not on the friends list as Microsoft rolls out new Windows Live

william — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:30:00 -0000

We have also just launched an alpha of our hybrid Social Network.
Unlike Microsoft and Facebook and Myspace and Ning; we are Open Source and we also give back to our "Community"

adelph.us can be found here http://www.adelph.us
Some of the feature of adelph.us are:

A top of the line Read/Write/Re Publish feed reader.
A stand alone advertising Network
Integrated Classifieds Service
Integrated Music Store (Using SongBird)
Integrated Application Store
Integrated Products sells and Product affiliate sells service
Integrated e-commerce service (Handles Micro Payments and Revenue Sharing)
Super Distributed Micro Blogging Service "Conversations"

We are also in the process of launching a hosted service

Re: Facebook fails to acquire Twitter!

william — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:48:43 -0000

Open Source Developers and users, Break the chains of web 2.0 share cropping. Understand that Twitter is a closed source application and more than likely will want any Open Source competitor to their service to fail.

Twitter the friendly little bird wants to become a closed source monopoly. Twitter wants to lock you and your content into their closed silo and they want to generate millions in revenue off of your content, and for this they will give you nothing back to you or your community in return.

With an Open Source solution you at least have a copy of the application that you have given value. With Open Source you have a choice. If you want to do things differently you are "Free" to take the software and do so. This kind of Freedom also keeps any ideas of vendor/data/content lock in out of the picture.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. We also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust the our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from your actions, and that give nothing back to you or to your communities.

Re: Facebook's Mantra: Use Facebook Connect or Don't Connect at All

william — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:28:55 -0000

Hail to the Thieves

So interesting that a short time ago Microsoft (A closed source company) wanted to push forward a standard (Passport) that would have given users the ability to have one log in that worked for many sites. At the time many in the tech and development community saw this as just another Microsoft Land Grab for our Identity and our Content.

Many people saw Passport as a Microsoft effort to finally gain control of the internet by becoming the standard for digital identity.

Today we have no less than 3 closed source companies in a race to become the "Standard" for holding our Identity and therefore having access to the content that we read and the content that we creates.

All of this at a time when there are many Open Source standards that could be used (Openid is just one that comes to mind) that if properly deployed would do the right thing by putting the user/member in charge of their log in as well as their relationships across many sites.

Have we forgotten the lesson of the not so distance past ?

Why do we not see a problem with the big 3 trying to become the proprietary standard in this very important area ?

Why do developers especially Open Source developers continue to build and extend applications for closed source companies that under mind open source standards and ideals ?

Why do users continue to view giving control of their identity and content to these companies as a win, when in fact the win is clearly on the side of the company that you have allowed to take control of your identity and to generate value and revenue from your content. In return for our compliance we do not even have a right to take our identity and our content where we want.

At adelph.us we believe in members freedom to control their accounts, and their content. Unlike Facebook we also believe that any revenue model should always put the members in the equation first. We believe in the Open Source community and ideals. We know we are not the smartest guys in the room and trust our community of members and developers.

Break the chains of the old web 2.0 share cropping model. Do not give your content or your software development work to closed source old world companies they only seek to profit from your identity,relationships, content,or code

Re: And Now, Windows Live Is a Social Network

william — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:58:45 -0000

Re: WSJ.com's Third Super-Premium Tier Coming?

william — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:53:35 -0000

This would be an interesting move by the WSJ. The point that Rupert misses is that all content consumers are also content creators.
We will be launching a service soon that will allow members to receive real time 24 hour subscription news/content. The platform will allow media companies and specialist to leverage their content and membership base to earn revenues per update

Re: MySpace Lets Users Upload Photos, Change Status Via Mobile

william — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:17:28 -0000

Re: MySpace Expands Self-Serve MyAds Display Ad Service

william — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:13:27 -0000

Re: Can Facebook Make Its 'Engagement Ads' Work?

william — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:37:06 -0000

I think that what facebook and myspace and the other social networks do not under stand is that members conversations have value and that ad/anything that seems like an ad is an interruption in the conversation.

This seemed to work for while in the old media world of television; where we had no way to escape the advertisement/interruption in the conversation. Now we have the ability to go around the interruption in the conversation. Now we have the ability to create and consume the conversation; and the conversation happens in real time and in man places. "Follow me:" :)

Re: EMI Launches Personalised Music Discovery Site For Direct-To-Fan Retail

william — Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:42:20 -0000

Nice to see that major labels are at again pretending to be the "friend" of the fan as well as the artist when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Where is the site that will allow independent artist to communicate with their fan base, and also sell and distribute their tracks.

Where is the site that will allow fans of the artist to also resell their favorites artist tracks.

adelph.us enables artist and levels the playing filed

Re: This Phantasmagoric Life: Acquisition Talks Between Facebook And Twitter Break Down

william — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:10:48 -0000

A match made in close source heaven. A joining together of web 2.0 content share croppers.

Do the members that give each service value have any say in this ?
What happens to members of Facebook and twitter that do not want to use the services if this acquisition happens ? Members and Communities have given both companies there value. Members should have a voice and if not they should be able take the code and create and extend the services that they have given value.

Re: WordPress.com, SocialVibe Partner To Let Bloggers Run Ads -- But Only For Charity

william — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:35:19 -0000

I think that bloggers and community members should have the ability to earn revenue from ads as well as the affiliate sales. I also think that bloggers/members should have the ability to passively or actively give back to non profits and community organizations.

At adelph.us bloggers/members have this ability and adelph.us always gives a portion of its revenue to non profits.