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Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:00:47 -0000

You're hopeless, Guest. Time will prove me right, provided you believers don't ruin our economy in the meantime.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:49:16 -0000

What citations do you want, Guest? You acknowledged the earth has cooled the past eleven years, but how could that be given the human induced CO2?

I'm not complaining about anyone "stepping up and being active in the community", I merely raised the mis-guided notion that you could change the weather by planting a few trees.

I admit not reading any of the links you listed - I've found lot's of opinion offered as fact, or fact based on faulty data, but nothing proving humans are responsible for the warming period just prior to 1998, but none of the other warming periods the earth has cycled through.

I just want you to tell me what caused the Vashon Glacier to melt and why that force could not possibly be responsible for the warming the earth saw just prior to 1998.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:32:59 -0000

Name - you may have missed my original post on this site - I have no problem with people like you planting trees for asthetics, shade, maybe to harvest in a few years, but the premise from the article was planting these trees was going to help us change the weather, and that is crazy talk.

Much like, Guest, I really don't understand why you need to ruin your post with the lazy-boy recliner and watch TV comment. It makes no sense.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:21:58 -0000

Guest –

I’m curious to know, from the standpoint of a believer, why the earth cooling over the past eleven years is insignificant in your mind?

I assume you believe man’s evil habits with fossil fuels account for close to 100% of the most recent warming trend. These evil habits haven’t diminished over the past number of years, yet the earth has been cooling. Why?

What happened to the massive increase in hurricanes predicted by Al Gore? Why are we getting all these cold/snow records broken this year? How did the Vashon Glacier that carved Puget Sound melt 10,000 years ago (i.e. before the evil SUV) and why couldn’t that force be responsible for the most recent warming trend? Why do you believe the Medieval Warming period never happened, yet there is a trove of evidence, including first-hand accounts, supporting it?

CO2 accounts for such a small portion of greenhouse gases (which by the way haven’t been proven responsible for warming trends), yet people like you want to mandate draconian social engineering schemes on unwilling participants to limit only the fossil fuel portion of CO2 emissions?

Can’t wait for your reply.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:58:33 -0000

I'm glad you finally agree the earth has been cooling the past eleven years.

With respect to the remainder of your reply, I find it amusingly one-sided and consider it as evidence that the science isn't as settled as some desire.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:12:08 -0000

1. The Medieval Warming Period AD 800-1300 was MUCH warmer than the years you cite,
2. Humans have been contributing CO2 to the atmosphere since they started knuckle dragging on earth. The amount humans add is an insignificant amount, and you CANNOT prove otherwise,
3. Who says 380 ppm is above average, and who are you to tell the world what the "perfect" amount is?
4. All current publication point to cooling over the past eleven years. Read something more current.

Re: Tree planting in Discovery Park Saturday

magres — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:00:53 -0000

I looked at the Sustainable website after reading this notice and I am amazed there continues to be groups like this given the news of the earth’s cooling over the past eleven years.

If you believe there is a direct correlation between CO2 and global temperatures, there can only be three reasons: 1. varying levels of CO2 causes temperature fluctuations, 2. varying global temperatures causes changes in the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere, or, 3. something else causes the changes in both temperatures and CO2 levels.

NONE of the above has been proven. Human contribution to CO2 levels in the atmosphere is insignificant.

Go plant a tree if you think it’s going to look nice, provide shade or will be fun to climb in a few years, but to plant a tree thinking you are controlling the weather is lunacy.