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Re: Couple nabbed for murder of former US Navy man

jose_ndc — Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:08:17 -0000

Joe,

"But the victim's racial background has nothing to do with supporting this story."

Sure it does, Americans are more often associated with being White or Caucasian. In fact over 63% of Americans are White while only 12% are Black or African-American. By omitting and not reporting that an African-American was the victim, readers would have been more likely to believe the victim was White or Caucasian.

Would it be acceptable to report that "A light-skinned Filipino was arrested for allegedly killing a dark-skinned Filipino last night"? If these are clear and identifying visual facts, no court or jury would argue about that.

Perhaps, you'd prefer to read something completely censored in this manner: "A person was arrested for allegedly killing another person last night"

How much more uninformative and useless would you like news to be presented in your world?

I'm not sure what you fear, but most readers who are interested in news articles would like to know the truth regardless of what race, what color, what former occupation, how old, what gender, what religion, etc.. are involved. That's what journalism is about, facts and answers not censorship to promote ignorance.

Re: Couple nabbed for murder of former US Navy man

jose_ndc — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:38:34 -0000

Perhaps it is necessary to include specific details and facts that support the story. Is it discrimination to specify that the victim was a former US Navy serviceman, rather than simply a former serviceman? No. Specific details are important to readers especially in this 21st century, and Inquirer delivers...nothing reckless about that.

Re: The ‘Check Engine’ Light Should Be Banned

jose_ndc — Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:34:41 -0000

I agree, it should be banned for new cars and should be replaced with a built-in check engine light code reader. Just tag another $100 or so to the cost of the vehicle. I'd prefer more instant information about a problem with the car rather than having to stop, find my obd code reader and plugging it in. So whether I decide to research and fix it myself or present the problem to a mechanic, I know exactly what is going on...and don't have to pay any dumb fees for having a mechanic read the error code.

Re: Pinoy Linux flavor stirs ripple in OS community | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere

jose_ndc — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 18:35:52 -0000

How is the development and support for KahelOS funded today and it's plans in the future? Will it always be free?

Re: Google+ Service May Have 400 Million Users by End of 2012 - Businessweek

jose_ndc — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:30:36 -0000

In just a year or so, Google+ has already achieved about half the number of users Facebook currently has?! That is impressive indeed. I'd better open up an account and see what I'm missing.

Re: Sprint disables Carrier IQ software on its handsets

jose_ndc — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:56:17 -0000

andersonalex,

You're completely naive of how programming in the Android mobile environment works.

Of course all applications must listen to keystroke events in order to respond accordingly and execute the next set of functions and subroutines.

However, you seem to be demonstrating the same common mistake most developers, who have no experience in programming in a mobile environment, assume: believing that the Android debug log files normally produce and displays keystroke keycodes.

No, they DON'T. Stop embarassing yourself. The Debug Log File is NOT a real-time status indicator of CPU registers, Event Handler messages, etc. Android debug log files normally do not contain any information. Especially keystroke keycode events "unless" the programmer decides to code and pass these events into the debug log file from within the application.

Of course, this may be necessary to test and troubleshoot situations within a Development environment. However, every programmer understands that before releasing into a Live Production environment, it is critical to remove these codes from writing to the debug log file for security and legal reasons.

That's how Mobile Developers work.

You're treating information you read through the media as the only evidence that will be used during the trials. But you don't understand that no one has a duty to show Carrier IQ is logging keystrokes or storing data until they are asked by the judge during the time the real litigation proceedings take place.

Don't waste your time waiting and expecting more evidence of Carrier IQ being a "keylogger" to pop up in the media. All you need to understand is that Sprint is removing Carrier IQ because their professional legal advisors believe Google's professional legal advisors are correct. And that is, Carrier IQ is a "keylogger".

And by assuming Google simply are going off of the video would be an INSULT to Google's team of professional legal advisors and professional technical experts. Google is well aware of the consequences for "libel" and false accusations that could put their company in jeapardy and have sufficient experience in many legal battles over many years to know how to make a claim and how to defend their claim in a court of justice.

Re: Sprint disables Carrier IQ software on its handsets

jose_ndc — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:57:14 -0000

andersonalex,Did you miss the news? Google, creator and inventor of Android OS, defends Trever's findings in that the Android app, Carrier IQ, is a "keylogger". And you better believe, Google doesn't mess around with their facts...they have been in a handful of legal battles for years and will not take any risk in making false statement to the public.Trevor posted a video that demonstrates virtual keylogging from the Dial Pad app. Everyone believes and agrees with that.And when you call your Bank through your Dial Pad app, aren't you required to enter your Bank Account Numbers through the Dial Pad? And aren't you required to enter your Security Pin for verification?Why would over 150 million users not be fearful about an unknown company has access to discovering their Bank Account Numbers, their Security Pins, their Balance, their Purchases/Payment information...private information that was NOT agreed upon within the Consumer Agreement Contract?And if this unknown company is so small, wouldn't they be the perfect target for private, secret, and powerful organizations to buy out or blackmail, in order to control the extremely valuable financial information they have access to without the knowledge of 150 million users?That's the critical security risk you're ignoring.

Re: Sprint disables Carrier IQ software on its handsets

jose_ndc — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:37:36 -0000

andersonalex,

You're completely naive of how programming in the Android mobile environment works.

Of course all applications must listen to keystroke events in order to respond accordingly and execute the next set of functions and subroutines.

No, they DON'T. Stop embarrassing yourself. The Debug Log File is NOT a real-time status indicator of CPU registers, Event Handler messages, etc. Android debug log files normally DO NOT contain ANY information. Especially keystroke keycode events "unless" the programmer decides to code and pass these event messages into the Debug Log File from within the application.

That's how Mobile Developers work.

Google isn't that foolish to normally allow event handler messages, keycodes, text messages, etc. to be accessible and readable through their Debug Log File. Why? Because it would slow down the performance of mobile applications and it could get them sued for security breaches, and violating privacy laws.

Don't waste your time waiting and expecting more evidence of Carrier IQ being a "keylogger" to pop up in the media. All you need to understand is that Sprint is removing Carrier IQ because their professional legal advisers believe Google's professional legal advisers are correct. And that is, Carrier IQ is a "keylogger".

And by assuming Google simply are going off of the video would be an INSULT to Google's team of professional legal advisers and professional technical experts. Google is well aware of the consequences for "libel" and false accusations that could put their company in jeopardy and have sufficient experience in many legal battles over many years to know how to make a claim and how to defend their claim in a court of justice.

Re: Sprint disables Carrier IQ software on its handsets

jose_ndc — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:32:07 -0000

Where are their findings? It's sitting in a secured binder at the Google compound to serve as an exhibit for any prosecutor or judge who requests to see them.

Google doesn't have an obligation to publish them for the public or for the lots of people who want to see them. Part of winning a legal battle is keeping the defendants in the dark while they scramble around worrying about how to defend themselves.

And during the trials when all of these so-called Security Researchers present their findings about how Carrier IQ "is not" a keylogger based on their limited expertise with Android OS, Google shall present their findings about how Carrier IQ "is" a keylogger based on their extensive expertise with Android OS.

So now who would you put your faith on? The folks with "Limited" or "Extensive" expertise in the Android programming environment?

PS...You sound nervous yourself.

Re: Sprint disables Carrier IQ software on its handsets

jose_ndc — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:16:03 -0000

Looks like not even Sprint could trust and believe Dan Rosenberg and all of the prepaid Security Researchers defending Carrier IQ.

Sprint believes Google, the folks who built the Android OS. And if Google discovers and says Carrier IQ is a "Key Logger", then by supreme authority of the Android OS, It IS!

Pretty soon AT&T and Verizon shall also trust Google's assessment of Carrier IQ, the app that bypassed and never went through Google's Android Market consumer verification eligibility process.

Re: Mobile Carriers Claim Consumers Consent to Carrier IQ Spying

jose_ndc — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:19 -0000

The Consumer Contract Agreement consents to Carriers with acquiring and managing certain private consumer information. Not by some unknown 3rd party, Carrier IQ.

Furthermore, the Consumer Contract Agreement consents to Carriers with acquiring and managing certain private consumer information, particularly private consumer information listed on billing statements. Not "every" private consumer information entered into the mobile phone and "keylogged" by the secret Carrier IQ software app as identified by Google, maker and inventor of the Android OS.

If Carriers lose millions/billions from all these lawsuits, Carriers are likely to sue the pants off of Carrier IQ to recover from financial damages.

Re: Google chief Eric Schmidt condemns Carrier IQ

jose_ndc — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:10:07 -0000

What I'm saying is, you're question is rhetorical.

Again..who invented and built the Android OS? Was it Kaspersky Labs, trend Micro, Dan Rosenberg, or Google?

Re: Google chief Eric Schmidt condemns Carrier IQ

jose_ndc — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 18:12:42 -0000

Here you write:

"While I agree that google labs should look at it, There is no mention in the article or any official statement from Google that they have done any backwards testing. I am sure if they chose to do any testing it would be verified and then a press statement released."

Eric Schmidt doesn't run some small mom and pop shop down the corner with 2 employees. He runs one of the strongest corporations popular worldwide for being the largest Search Engine on the planet. And as Chief Executive Officer of the corporation, it's standard policy to work with the legal department who will work with the Google Labs department to ensure that whatever the CEO releases to the public will not bite them back so that they can protect the corporation from being sued for libel or for any statement that does not represent the Facts.

And based on their statement about Carrier IQ being a keylogger, it's obvious that they are confident about their findings and have one of the best legal and technical teams that can back it up and prove it in a court of law. They have a responsibility to provide the evidence if a judge asks for it, not because you, the media, or the public asks for it.

Here you write:

"It is like any application. It might listen to a lot but doesn't mean it doesn't do a thing with it, and the log in question is a debug log, so it is in volatile memory, and temporary as it is used for debug purposes only."

No, you are under the misconception that all Android Debug Logs always contain every action and event that an application encounters. You are mistaking logcat for a sophisticated debug analyzer for desktop applications. Consider logcat as nothing more than just a notepad or text file reader. Only then will you understand that Android Debug log files "normally" DO NOT contain any information or "event-handler" messages.

Programmers are the one's responsible for creating code that can be "passed" as messages and values that are written to the debug log file. Why do you suppose Google engineers are so confident? Because every Android developer knows that the Android system doesn't provide those keylogged messages to be passed to the log files, the application programmer did.

Volatile memory? Contents in a debug log file can last for many days, weeks, and months...enough time for someone or some other hidden routine to send it off somewhere thousands of miles remotely...that's hardly considered volatile.

Here you write:

"Also when you get a phone you sign an end user agreement. I know in many cases there is print in there about gathering information and monitoring usage."

Yes, there is always a contract agreement between the network carrier and the consumer. However, the contract only identifies personal information, such as everything available to them through your Billing Profile, address, name, ssn, phone number, call usage, balance, etc.

This contract does not identify an agreement for 3rd party entities, such as Carrier IQ, having access to your username and password credentials to home and office secured systems (via https) or banking account numbers and pin numbers (via phone dialer).

What else would you like to advocate as a devil?

Re: Google’s Schmidt: Carrier IQ is unacceptable keylogger

jose_ndc — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:51:45 -0000

Game Over: Google's Technology Research Labs has uncovered more evidence of their own that confirms Carrier IQ is a keylogger app trying to hide in their Android OS.

Re: Google chief Eric Schmidt condemns Carrier IQ

jose_ndc — Fri, 09 Dec 2011 13:00:17 -0000

I'm sorry, but there's very little argument now that the real Security experts and top Programmers at Google have examined and revealed to the public about what Carrier IQ is doing under the hood:

"Carrier IQ is a keylogger"

Don't blame Eric Schmidt for being misinformed, challenge the Programmers, Troubleshooters, and Experts at Google who ARE the creators, designers, and inventors of the Android Mobile operating system.

Google knows better than Carrier IQ and non-Google Security Researchers about how the Android OS system works. They know how to backwards engineer the various versions of Carrier IQ apps released on hundreds of Android phones they have sitting in their Research Labs. And you certainly have no qualification against their knowledge about how the debug log file function works with your assumptions of how the verbose tag behaves.

Google Lab experts don't have to to rely on Trevor Eckhart's video, they can run their own multiple experiments and tests in their Labs to confirm many things Trever hasn't even learned or discovered.

Bottom line is, No Security Researcher or Carrier IQ programmer knows better about the Android OS than the "real" experts, professionals, and geniuses at Google Labs that represent Eric Schmidt. I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

Re: What's really going on with Carrier IQ on your phone

jose_ndc — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:31:43 -0000

It's ironic to see that you would prefer to trust someone who doesn't even know much about Android OS.

Meanwhile, Google, inventor of the Android Mobile Operating System shall educate YOU and Mr.Rosenberg on what Carrier IQ is:

Speaking at a Internet freedom conference at The Hague, Netherlands,
Eric Schmidt said Carrier IQ the “keylogger” software DID record keystrokes, and: “We
certainly don’t work with them, and we certainly DON'T support it”.

Read the latest news and weep.

Re: What's really going on with Carrier IQ on your phone

jose_ndc — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 14:41:09 -0000

Poor Dan Rosenberg. There goes his credibility as a trusted Security Researcher right out the window.

In this article, Dan admits that the Carrier IQ app "does" record virtual keystrokes performed through the Phone Dialer app. But then wants to convince everyone that the "Hello World" message recorded through SMS from Eckhart's video was generated from an app made by HTC and not by the Carrier IQ app?!

But when ANYONE returns to Eckhart's video and returns to the virtual keystroke recorded in realtime at 11:42, and compares it to the SMS Message captured at 12:37, it is clear that they were BOTH generated by the same Android app source tag:

"HTC_SUBMITTER_C"

Dan goes on to say, "HTC's failure to disable the display of the debug statements constitutes a legitimate potential security threat to user information. These are a "risk to privacy," Rosenberg says, and HTC should mitigate that risk by disabling these debugging messages.

I guess one thing is clear. Dan Rosenberg admits that private information sent through the Android debug log files constitute a legitimate potential security threat to user information!

Looks like "someone" will NOT be off the hook.

Re: Carrier IQ security risks overblown?

jose_ndc — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 20:03:36 -0000

The YouTube video does not confirm that it records virtual keystrokes from the perspective of anyone who has "lacks" the background and understanding of mobile programming in the Android Development environment.

However, the YouTube video DOES confirm and implies that it records virtual keystrokes
from the perspective of anyone who DOES have the background and
understanding of mobile programming in the Android Development
environment.

Anytime the Debug Log File is used within an Android app, it implies that messages being passed through the Debug Log File are being collectively "WRITTEN" to file at /var/log directory:

http://developer.android.co...

Sorry Michael, it is apparent that you have NO background and understanding of mobile programming in the Android Development environment which makes you an unqualified source of determining what evidence will or will not be available during the court hearings that will come about from the mounting lawsuits piling against Carrier IQ.

Re: Carrier IQ security risks overblown?

jose_ndc — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:12:41 -0000

The Carrier IQ app that has been confirmed to record the virtual keystrokes within the Phone Dialer app to a debug log file containing dialed Bank Account Numbers, SSN, Pins, etc. and an app that cannot be uninstalled, removed, disabled, or stopped already suggests a major Security Risk in itself.

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:00:24 -0000

Equalizer2, now you're trying to tell everyone it's not new to you?

When in fact, all you ever knew and preached was to always subject one's self to the authority of the Church Administration?

Equalizer2, writes:

"It is important to subject one's self to the authority of those whom Christ entrusted to administer the Church, for the decision they make in behalf of the Church are affirmed by God in heaven."

Then you go off and point out the verse recorded in Matthew 18:18 and recklessly use this as the commandment and justification for Church members to subject one's self to the authority of the Church Administration?

You are wrong Equalizer2, that verse in Matthew 18:18 refers to the method of handling disagreements between two Church members.

It is not a verse that has anything to do with the Church Administration. Next time, don't just read the verse you are interested in presenting, read as much context as possible. In other words, go read before it....at Matthew 18:15.

Here recorded in the Holy Bible, we can read:

"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over."

Equalizer2, you wrote:

"It is not clear enough for you?"

Baliktad at baluktot ang tanong mo kagaya ng isip mo. I shall correct you Equalizer2...

"Is it not clear enough for you?"

Speaking of baliktad, I don't think it is clear enough for you. But if we reverse the order of your statement, you will come to realize your contradiction.

Here is the normal order of your original statement:

1. Even Moses made mistakes but God did not allow his people to go against moses, its God who punish MOSES and also punish those who go against moses.
2. Church leaders are accountable to God because its God who put them there that's why we trust our administration because God is with them

Now, if we reverse the order of your outline, you shall be surprised with what you have confessed:

1. Church leaders are accountable to God because its God who put them there that's why we trust our administration because God is with them
2. Even Moses made mistakes but God did not allow his people to go against moses, its God who punish MOSES and also punish those who go against moses.

Notice now? At first, you insist trusting the Church Administration because God entrusted them.

Then, you admit even Church Administrators make mistakes against God. And when Church Administrators anger God, they cannot be entrusted anymore. In other words, those Church Administrators can NO LONGER be TRUSTED because they have betrayed God.

Is THAT not clear enough for YOU?

Show us the verses in the Holy Bible where God is angered with the Church Administration, thereby losing God's trust. And within the same passages in the verse, instructs Church members to continue to TRUST those whom God no longer TRUSTS?

You sure are in deep trouble now, diba?

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 02:46:33 -0000

Where did I write in my previous response anything referring to "God takes care of his church administration"?

Are you lost? Or are you having difficulty with comprehending my previous response?

The point being made in the Holy Bible in Isaiah 3:12 is that God WILL destroy Church Administrations that ANGER him.

Now that you have learned something you never knew before, that even God will punish his Church Administration, let us learn what are some of the ways the Church Administration can anger God to begin with?

"Mistreating the poor members of the Church."

When God becomes angry against the Church Administration, what does he do?

Let us read the answer recorded in Job 20:22:

"In the midst of plenty, they will run into trouble and be overcome by misery. May God give them a bellyful of trouble. May God rain down his anger upon them. When they try to escape an iron weapon, a bronze-tipped arrow will pierce them. The arrow is pulled from their back, and the arrowhead glistens with blood. The terrors of death are upon them. Their treasures will be thrown into deepest darkness. A wildfire will devour their goods, consuming all they have left. The heavens will reveal their guilt, and the earth will testify against them. A flood will sweep away their house. God's anger will descend on them in torrents. This is the reward that God gives the wicked. It is the inheritance decreed by God"

It takes a whole lot to anger God. But when the Church Administration angers god, what does God call the Church Administration? God says, "This is the reward for the WICKED!"

And what are the instructions recorded in the Holy Bible against the Wicked?

Let us read the answer recorded in Psalm 68:2:

"Blow them away like smoke. Melt them like wax in a fire. Let the wicked perish in the presence of God."

Sounds like the Holy Bible gives God's people clear instructions for severe punishment against Church Administration that anger Him, don't you think?

So, as you were saying? God does not allow the members to punish the Church Administraion...? WRONG.

And by the way, it is not about mistrusting leadership. It is about obeying the Holy Bible. You can learn something new again recorded in 1 Corinthians 5:12:

"It isn't my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning."

You don't get it Equalizer2. You see, the moment you ANGER God Almighty, a Church Administration no longer qualifies to be a Church Administrator. They simply have become wicked and an enemy of God. This gives the Church members the permission to do as they please against the wicked enemies of God.

Equalizer2, congratulations, you have learned something new again and have reached another level of biblical knowledge!

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 12:16:17 -0000

"shenanigans"?! wow Disraeli, you really are an old timer. Welcome to the Information Age of the 21st century where real shenanigans reach their maturity for dementia and amnesia.

But gran papa, glad ya still tryin' to hang in theyr. Now leme find ya readn' glasses so ya vision ain't so blurry n makin mistakes doin switcharoos wit ya words "like" for ya word "demand".

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:59:42 -0000

Tawa ka diyan pero mali ka parin. Nakakahiya sobra.

Sabi mo pa:

"Siguro maiintindihan mo kung bakit hindi applicable ang tanong mo kung babaguhin natin ang sitwasyon."

Lightsource1000 answered YES and Disraeli answered NO. It seems applicable to lightsource1000 and Disraeli who attend the same INC worship services you do, why is it not applicable to you Equalizer2?

Because in the back of your mind, you're scared the Church Administration will find out and punish you? Make you cry and then expel you?

Sabi mo pa:

"Meron halimbawang fund raising para sa pagpapatayo ng simbahan ninyo ... ngayon iapply mo ang tanong mo sa mga pari."

Okay, what if for example there is fund raising to build a church? Would I like the funds to go to build the church? Well, before we go and blindly spend funds to build another church, are there millions of poor members of the church dwelling in poor living conditions?

If there are MILLIONS of poor members of the church dwelling in poor living conditions, then NO. I would want the funds to go help God's people first and foremost.

Sabi mo pa:

"o kaya merong namatayan at humihingi ng abuloy iapply mo ang tanong mo sa mga naulila ... "

Same thing applies brethren. If there are MILLIONS of poor members of the church dwelling in poor
living conditions, then NO. I would want the funds to go help God's
people first and foremost.

All of your examples cannot defeat the same endeavor that God Almighty and Jesus Christ want us to do while here on earth. And that is to defend, to be generous, compassionate, caring, and giving to the POOR members of God's people.

Equalizer2, congratulations, you've just been re-educated again with the proper mindset and morals that God Almighty and Jesus Christ want you to preach and practice. Welcome back!

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:31:17 -0000

Is that the word "demand" I see here written by Disraeli? It appears to be so. Another attempt to inject his own exaggerated words that were never included in the original question....one false act of deception and the rest becomes garbage.

Not worth reading from there on, but Disraeli did score here for his repeated attempt of deception once again..kaching! :-)

Re: Report: Iglesia ni Cristo buys town in South Dakota - World - GMA News Online - Latest Philippine News

jose_ndc — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 10:25:08 -0000

Not only does Jose suggest that the Church Administration does not ALWAYS follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, but even God Almighty in Heaven has scolded Church Administrations recorded in the holy scriptures for mistreating the poor members of the Church and filling their homes with STOLEN things from the poor members of the Church.

In Isaiah 3:12 we can read the following recording in the Holy Scriptures:

{{ Childish leaders oppress my people, and women rule over them. O my people, your leaders mislead you; they send you down the wrong road.

The LORD takes his place in court and presents his case against his people!

The LORD comes forward to pronounce judgment on the elders and rulers of his people: "You have ruined Israel, my vineyard. Your houses are filled with things stolen from the poor.

How dare you crush my people, grinding the faces of the poor into the dust?" demands the Lord, the LORD of Heaven's Armies. }}

Equalizer2, did someone really misled you to believe any man or woman appointed by the Lord Jesus Christ to administer the Church after His ascension to heaven are IMMUNE to sin and temptation? Who taught you this fallacy?

Did you really think that God Almighty in Heaven would never unleash his wrath, anger, criticism, disunification, denouncement of authority, denouncement of decision making, against ANY man or woman appointed in the Church Administration? Who sent you down the wrong road?

Think again Equalizer2, Christian brothers, sisters, and readers have now armed themselves from your false teachings through the holy scriptures recorded in the Holy Bible in Isaiah 3:12.

Equalizer2, congratulations, your level of biblical education has now been increased - ding dong!