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davet • 11 years ago

I just watched Reich's video. I didn't like it so I voted it down. So the fact that there are no dislikes means the numbers are not updated and for some unknown reason they disabled comments. How idiotic and unreasonable. Are they afraid on the American people showing its distaste for this evil immoral president.

disqus_mEKrzDjtSx • 11 years ago

So, let me see if I understand. The figure of an increase in private production of 30% in 1946, that number serves your purposes, so you'll keep that one. All the other numbers (GDP during the war, etc.), they weaken your thesis so there must be something wrong with them. That, plus your appeal to common sense, which has nothing whatever to do with science, makes your argument extremely unconvincing.

Tom Woods • 11 years ago

So you're saying it's plausible that the US would have set all-time production records under conditions of sudden and extreme resource constraints? My questioning of this absurdity is "extremely unconvincing"?

You then propose that I am merely choosing statistics that I like, even though I actually explained what was wrong with the ludicrous numbers that more and more economists today are themselves challenging. The kinds of problems that arise from formulating GDP out of a controlled economy do not arise when dealing with the private economy, which is why the private figure is OK.

disqus_mEKrzDjtSx • 11 years ago

I'm not an economist and no doubt will abuse the terminology horribly, but it seems to me that those who claim that WWII "jump-started" the economy are NOT claiming that consumer prosperity reigned during the war. Of course people were faced with rationing. And they're certainly not claiming that therefore war is a moral good. They seem simply to be saying that the idle labor and machinery of the economy was put in motion again, if only by the grace of central planning. Goods were manufactured again (yes, tanks and bombers) and people were paid again (yes, there was little they could buy but they earned salary and presumably banked it for later). Further, entire industries like aerospace were launched by government financing and went on to help power the post-war boom.
http://www.bloomberg.com/ne...
And a quick (and admittedly lazy) Google search seems to show the challenges to this theory coming only from the right, which makes me skeptical that "more and more" economists are challenging this theory.

Luca Panico • 11 years ago

Paul Ryan keynesian? What???

apollonian • 11 years ago

Okay, good prof., I do believe I follow u, far as u go. But didn't we already know Keynesians are liars, that Keynesianism is lies for liars, socialists, and genocidal tyrants now working for "Agenda-21" mass-murder?

But, overall, wasn't WWII an attack, specifically against Germany?--which state had been built-up by the Western (and zionist) bankers w. loans, not only to Hitler and his pol. party, to help get them in power (according to "Who Financed Hitler," by the Pooles), chase Jew refugees to Palestine, but also to build their war-machine?--all this as same bankers were actively and enthusiastically building, funding, and supplying the bolshevist mass-murderers who'd already killed MILLIONS of Russians and Ukrainians, preparing to do more in China, etc.?

And the purpose of WWII was to (a) bolster the Soviets and socialism, along w. (b) UN world gov., and not to be left-out, (c) none other than dear little Israel?

jp • 11 years ago

Enough with the Zionists crap. Saying they're behind everything. This is not infowars or davidicke.com. You sound childish.

Mike • 11 years ago

Agreed. Enough with the paranoid conspiracy theories. Seems like people think either the Jesuits or Zionists are behind every single event. NOBODY can possibly do that.

wrothbard • 11 years ago

No no no, don't you get it, guys? The obvious reason why that Archduke and his wife got shot in serbia by the black hand gang after the european powers had consolidated themselves into several giant blocs of different alliances is because the League of nations, which didn't exist, and israel, which didn't exist, and the soviet union, which didn't exist, got together and meticulously planned it all in order to cause the 1st world war, the biggest reason behind the 2nd world war. /sarcasm

apollonian • 11 years ago

Yes, indeed--"several giant blocs of diff. alliances"--all financed by what and who?--central banking conspirators, run and directed by the Rothschilds, eh? And is it true that Jacob Schiff of Kuhn Loeb financed Japan to attack Russia very early in 20th cent.? Ho ho ho

wrothbard • 11 years ago

> all financed by what and who?

War bonds sold to private individuals and special taxes, as well as increased government control over the nation's resources. (Total war.)

>central banking conspirators, run and directed by the Rothschilds, eh?

Nope.

> And is it true that Jacob Schiff of Kuhn Loeb financed Japan to attack Russia very early in 20th cent.?

Oh, I see, so Russia was both zionist and anti-zionist at the same time? (Since they were generally on the british pro-zionist side during both wars and had a central bank... but had Jacob Schiff give japan war loans against them due to excessive anti-jewish sentiment within its borders...)

For masters of intrigue and the world, the Rothschilds seem remarkably incompetent.

apollonian • 11 years ago

"Wroth...": u just lie, that's all, as usual for ur sort and tribe. "Ye are of ur father the devil.... He was a murderer fm the beginning, and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it" (Christ speaking to Pharisees, Gosp. JOHN 8:44).

It's no mystery or un-known fact that Rothschilds master-minded the central-banking of Europe, Nathan in London, then his descendents, and working through the fractional-reserve B. of England; Jacob in France (and then his descendents); and Salomon in Vienna (Salomon may not have had any descendents, but Rothschilds had other agents); they also had agents in Germany. And Czarist Russia was no exception to such central-banking criminal enterprise.

Central-banking (legalized COUNTERFEITING) thereupon controls EVERYTHING else, including all the bond-sales and taxation and financing--just as it does in USA presently.

wrothbard • 11 years ago

Hahaha. Where did the pompous laughter go? I don't believe the wild ramblings of some internet conspiracy theorist with a hard-on for jews and bankers, obviously I'm part of the conspiracy!

If I was jewish, why would I be intimated by your paltry new testament quotations?

>It's no mystery or un-known fact that Rothschilds master-minded the central-banking of Europe, Nathan in London, then his descendents, and working through the fractional-reserve B. of England; Jacob in France (and then his descendents); and Salomon in Vienna (Salomon may not have had any descendents, but Rothschilds had other agents); they also had agents in Germany. And Czarist Russia was no exception to such central-banking criminal enterprise.

Oh, I'm sure. Is this the secret knowledge your illuminati masters told you when you were admitted into the inner circle of over-wizards? Whose game are you playing here?

>Central-banking (legalized COUNTERFEITING) thereupon controls EVERYTHING else, including all the bond-sales and taxation and financing--just as it does in USA presently.

I'm sure it's what pulls you out of bed in the morning, and feeds you your breakfast cereal. How could you possibly move that spoon without the great Central Bank pulling the strings. It is not drunkeness or a momentary loss of balance that made you miss the toilet-bowl, it's those damnable jews and their insidious central banking!

apollonian • 11 years ago

Ho ho hoo, got the zionist stooges up in arms (again)--struck a nerve, eh? Well, well, well, so is "central banking" (COUNTERFEITING) a conspiracy?--yes or no? And weren't the Rothschilds buying land in Palestine in the mid-19th cent.?--gee, but I wonder why?

jp • 11 years ago

He probably thinks I'm a shape shifting reptilian for calling him out.

apollonian • 11 years ago

no, u're just a zionist stooge, as I noted, that's all