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Yeah too much money for one and for two.. This..
"They never saw Puig play in a game" haha
schweet.
That's alot of money for a unproven player.
overpay.
Considering the Dodgers weren't the highest bidder, a lot of teams were looking to overpay.
which doesn't change the fact that it was an overpay.
The total dollars may sound like an overpay but when you consider it's $6 million/year, that doesn't seem to be all that much.
And Soler got $3.3M/yr, and is widely considered the better player...
I think if he was widely considered the better player, he would have been offered more money.
Thats why this is an overpay
"overpay" good call
40+!?!?!?!?!?
That's pretty much what I was getting at with "wow." I thought this guy wasn't supposed to be as good as Soler?
He's not
Doesn't have the same upside, but he's closer and has a higher floor. But wow - guess July 2nd looming close adds a (dozen) million or two.
I don't know that he actually has a higher floor (both of them essentially have a floor of flaming out and being a career minor leaguer), but he's closer to 'ready' so he's more likely to reach his ceiling.
he's better than Soler now and the floor would be never improving. So if they both hit their floors, Puig's will be higher.
And they'd both be career minor leaguers. Hooray that one is a career A ball guy and the other is a career AA guy I guess.
Higher floor? Good call. I bet you never saw this guy play once. Just repeating the internets.
Since you've seen both play, how about a scouting report?
"I thought this guy wasn't supposed to be as good as Soler?"
"He's not" as in "he's not supposed to be." But you knew that already. I clearly haven't seen either of them play, but according to scouts who have he's not supposed to be as good. But you probably already knew that too.
40MM?
For a guy which scouting reports had as with less polish and upside than Cespedes and less upside than Soler?
I'm waiting for this report to be refuted.
I think it was less polish than Cespedes and less upside than Soler, wasn't it? (I think he's supposed to have more upside than Cespedes, but he's not supposed to be major league ready yet)
Yeah, you're right on that.
I don't think he's worth $40m. But the Dodgers look quite confident on him.
The Rockies looked quite confident in Mike Hampton.
+1
WOW! That's a lot of money!
You have heard of the Paining "The Silent Scream". Well I am willing to bet there was a silent "Groan" amongst all Dodger minor league outfielders, it just got that much tougher to make the "Bigs".
If I am the Orioles, I would gladly take Tyler Henson back! He's stuck in a log jam now with the Puig signing.
Do you guys think its the overpay because it was the last good player before the caps go into effect, they must have though someone else was in on him bigtime.
Could be, I know it's been suggested that some teams might go that route.
Cole Hamels is very happy right now.
An unproven Cuban position player has nothing to do with Cole Hamels. Cole Hamels is happy because his career work at the MLB level is going to make him a ton of money as a free agent.
Or it does because this proves the dodgers are gonna pay lots of money to players they want. And one of those players people seem to think they will want is Cole Hamels.
Yeah, I have to agree here. His hopeful biggest bidder just showed that they're willing to open the wallet BIG TIME.
I guess I can understand that argument but I still don't think that Puig has any real connection to Hamels. If the point is that the Dodgers have proven they will spend big I'm fairly certain we already knew that irregardless of this signing. There are a few big market clubs that can and will spend big big money in free agency. I would count the Dodgers among them and bankruptcy/sale of the team not withstanding we all knew that already. Nice to see the kid make some money before the new rules take effect but Hamels is going to make a ton of money anyway based off of his past performance in MLB.
Everyone seems to be missing this point. Under McCourt, they would have been brushed off as pseudo-contenders for whoever this guy may be. It's a good sign that new ownership is willing to pay. At this rate, they might be willing to even pass the luxury tax.
I don't think this guy really had them over that much of a barrel. He was the one that needed to sign to avoid getting stuck with a 2.9MM ceiling.
Anybody know how he performed in the Cuban League? B-REF only has the stats up through 2008.
EDIT: Apparently this guy hit .330 17HR in 327 AB.
The Cuban league isn't even as challenging as A level ball, stats from there mean next to nothing.
I've heard the Cuban league described as around AA level competition. Considering American college ball is around A level, I find it hard to believe that a league stocked full of players coming up through a regimented and rigorous State athletic program wouldn't be able to match amateur college ball.
With all the reports on him I say that theres still a very very slim chance he ever hits at the MLB level, he's still a ways away from the MLB.
Thats not true.
Which isnt true? That the Cuban league isn't close to MLB level? That Puig doesn't have that good of a hit tool? or that he's still too raw for the MLB?
The Cuban league is far far off from MLB level.
Multiple websites have Puig lacking a great hit tool in their write ups of him, pretty much the only team who have said he's a 5 tool player is the Dodgers who saw 1 workout of him.
He's at least 1 or 2 years off still, he isn't Cespedes.
This is a good sign for Dodger fans as it marks the Dodgers getting aggressively back into the international market.
Apparently, the Dodgers offer wasn't even the biggest offer for Puig.
I fully expect to see the Dodgers continue that trend going forward.
Boston has done real well following that trend
Agree, and now the Dodgers seem to look to be getting back to being players on the international market.
For that much money, Dodgers' fans better hope he is not a Puig in a poke.....
You cant predict someone ceiling every player is different once they get to the
If this is true, then Theo and the Cubs really got a steal for signing Soler for 9 years and 30MM. Especially since Puig's ceiling is lower!
The word "wow" comes to mind...