If you notice it is a mixed race parents of Zimmermans, and the thug Trayvon got what he deserved.

Exactly why they don't want them in the courtroom.

Zimmerman's mom must not be white-hispanic enough

I might point out that Zimmerman's maternal grandmother is black. So, I guess that makes him a white-black-Hispanic.

Rhetorical question? Simply put, Zimmerman is as black as, and more Hispanic than, obama. But the press got it wrong, labeling him as 'white', so off to the racial witch hunt they rode!

Communist red I think.

If Obama had a father he wouldn't look like George Zimmerman's dad.

And he wouldn't be banned from the courtroom.

Because they are listed as witnesses. Witnesses listening to other testimony may be influenced by that testimony. They don't want to potentially taint the witness pool so they aren't allowed in until after their testimony.

Then why aren't Trayvon's parents possible witnesses? If they aren't, possible cause for mistrial, if they ARE, and allowed to watch the trial, another possible cause for a mistrial or at the very least an appeal. Something doesn't jibe here...

I don't think dear little Trayvon went to his parent's house or spoke to them after the shooting, but that's just a guess.

They didn't even know their son was the shooting victim down the street for 24 hours. How is that for keeping an eye on your kid.

Not to mention Skittleboy was suspended from school, his "parents" had no problem with him running around, etc. Disgraceful family.

poor baby - and parents that truly now care -

When this is over - the real trial begins - the "civil suit" for wrongful death.

That's where the attorneys and Trayvon's parents get to make their $$$$$$$$$$.

That's right - this is all about getting money for Trayvon's failed parents, and their lawyers of course.

The parasitic parents already cashed in from the home owners association..notice how nice the clothes are now, and the jewelry. Probably a cool million...that's usually the minimum umbrella policy. And I bet the block watch organization is now disbanded so the gang-bangers can come and go with impunity.

Guaranteed!!!

They're the same ones who ran out almost immediately to get "justice for trayvon" and "i am trayvon" trademarked because that's the very first thing all parents in mourning do.

Yeah, they're concerned about the early expiration of their wannabe gang-banger pothead alright.... They're concerned about the best possible marketing strategy they can run with.

Typical ignorant statement from a Texan.

probably not, he was already on his way to the dead...

CNN coverage of the trial today had just one headline under their trial coverage "Zimmerman's attorney makes joke."

There was probably more substance to cover than that, but hey, we are talking CNN.

I saw that on one of the news shows. Were I Zimmerman, I'd be worried about my lawyer.

Oh, that is funny, but It probably wouldn't be a good idea to give up your day job. ;~)

Because no one requested them as witnesses. it's all very simple.

If that's true (that they weren't asked to serve as witnesses), then they won't be able to testify that the voice on the phone begging for help is their son, Trayvon. Right? But if they do testify to that, then something is very wrong here.

Zimmerman was let go the day the shooting took place because the officers at the time thought he was obviously innocent via self defense.
Political whores and cowards have dragged this man back to face trumped up charges about 6 months after the incident because they want to make an example of Zimmerman and discourage self defense use of firearms, or because they see this incident as provocative for the black community and see political opportunity.
Either way, something very wrong has been true of this case from the very beginning.

Great post, except nothing you wrote is actually true. Zimmerman was not initially arrested because of the "stand your ground law", which is legally different than a claim of self defense. In fact, after Zimmerman was finally charged, the defense has decided not to use the "stand your ground law" (which certainly calls into question the original decision of the police dept. not to charge Zimmerman). Martin's family never agreed with the decision of the police dept. not to press charges, and they have worked hard (and yes, helped to draw national attention to their son's death) from day one to have charges brought against Zimmerman. You may call them "political whores" (whatever that means), but the irony here is, had the police originally pressed charges, than you would never have heard of this case. These kinds of shootings go on everyday in the US. The only reason this case received national attention was because the police refused to make an arrest. So yes, somthing was very wrong with this case from the very beginning.

Careful, you'll confuse the house bigots with all those "facts". LOL!

Dear Lefty Loons: Zimmerman was not arrested because the police somehow invoked the "stand your ground" law. He was not arrested because he was bloody and beaten and had obviously shot Martin in self-defense, as witnessed by the bystander who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman banging his head into the concrete.

"...as witnessed by the bystander who saw Martin on top of Zimmerman banging his head into the concrete."
Accept that witness is not saying he did not see any of that, so explain to me how "obviously" Zimmerman shot Martin in self defense. And not to confuse matters even more, but you might look up the legal terms of the "stand your ground" laws and the "self defense" laws, because in legal terms they are not the same. Initially, the police did not make an arrest because Zimmerman claimed "stand your ground" (not self defense). Since his arrest, the defense is now claiming self defense, and not the stand your ground law. So my point was, perhaps the police were initially wrong.

Great post Verbanc, except that you lied all the way through it.
I never said that Zimmerman was arrested "because of the stand your ground law", and that does not in any way call into question the very sound decision the cops made to not charge a man who had obviously been assaulted and had a broken nose, a concussion, etc.
And you really think no one thinks you really do completely understand the phrase "political whore?" lol, sure, whatever.
The cops made the best decision at the time to not prosecute, but political whores/liars/sellouts dragged him back into to be charged for the crime of daring to defend himself.
As to his parents, they got their real break when anti-gun groups decided to make the Zimmerman case their show trial on self defense of any kind, not just gun defense. Only problem is, Zimmerman didn't turn out to fit their pre-programmed criteria of a white racist man who deliberately hunted down an innocent black teen, and neither does Martin which is why the Prosecution fought to keep all relevant information of Martin's thuggery out of the court.

"I never said that Zimmerman was arrested "because of the stand your ground law"

Reading comprehension is not really your strong suit is it? I understand you clearly stated that Zimmerman was not initially arrested because he claimed self-defense. I countered that by saying you were not correct. He was not claiming "self-defense", he was claiming the "stand your ground law". Do you understand now?

"...to not charge a man who had obviously been assaulted and had a broken nose, a concussion, etc."

So let me ask you, how many police departments would let an "assault victim" who suffered "a broken nose, a concussion, etc." to go home without being taken to a hospital and/or checked by a doctor? My point being, you do not know what injuries were suffered, and I am sure that will come out during the trial, but I will tell you this. If the police ever suspected anything more than superficial scratches, you bet they would have had Zimmerman seen by a doctor. You are the first person to suggest Zimmerman had a concussion. Try sticking to the facts.

"And you really think no one thinks you really do completely understand the phrase "political whore?"

"No one thinks"...? Who are you talking about? What are you talking about? Are you hearing voices again? And no, I have no idea what you mean by your phrase "political whore". What do your voices tell you?

"The cops made the best decision at the time to not prosecute.." Well, apparently not everyone agrees with you, or the "the cops" decision, and there have been consequences (i.e., disciplinary action and firings) because of it.

"...but political whores/liars/sellouts dragged him back into to be charged for the crime of daring to defend himself."

So let me ask you... What if Zimmerman had actually died from injuries that night. Would you have been ok with the police letting Martin go after he told them he killed Zimmerman because he feared for his life?

"As to his parents, they got their real break when anti-gun groups decided to make the Zimmerman case their show trial on self defense of any kind, not just gun defense."
Or maybe they just could not understand how their 17 year old son could be shot simply for walking home from a 7-eleven...

"which is why the Prosecution fought to keep all relevant information of Martin's thuggery out of the court."

Care to expound?

Again, back to your lies. Zimmerman never used the stand your ground laws as a defense. It was considered at various times but he never entered such a plea.
Zimmerman was checked out by EMTs at the scene, and he had a concussion. Stop trying to change the facts.

The cops initial decision would have been enough had the whores stayed out of it, but no, some votes and contributions might be snagged, so they pushed to have him tried anyway.

And if Martin did kill Zimmerman, Martin should have gone to jail for ASSAULT, because HE INITIATED THE VIOLENCE.

Martins gangsta pics, pics with him smoking dope and posing with guns and being a lot older than the innocent kid the media keeps throwing out to the public.

"It was considered at various times but he never entered such a plea."

Of course he did not enter it as a plea... He was not arrested (initially). He was not arrested because he claimed to have stood his ground. As it turned out, the police were wrong to not have arrested him, and even the person (Jeb Bush) that signed this measure into law in Florida came out with a statement that the stand your ground law should not apply to this case.

"Zimmerman was checked out by EMTs at the scene, and he had a concussion."

Sorry, but you are going to have to prove this one. Care to include a link or show a report stating that? I have not seen any proof of that, and will again state, that it would be hard for me to believe that Zimmerman would not have been taken to the hospital if it was thought that he suffered a concussion, but I am willing to check out any link or proof you can provide.

"The cops initial decision would have been enough had the whores stayed out of it.."

Oh, those damn "whores"... Always getting in the way of a good old fashion shooting of a wannabe thug...

"Martin should have gone to jail for ASSAULT, because HE INITIATED THE VIOLENCE."
First of all, I think if you kill someone you would be (or should be) charged with more than assault. Second, you just basically made my case for me and is why Zimmerman should have been arrested the night he shot Martin. But lastly, your comment shows that you do not understand the stand your ground law. This law allows someone to shoot first and ask questions later, as long as they can prove they were in fear for their lives. And shooting first is "initiating violence". The problem that has evolved in Florida, and the other states that have initiated the stand your ground law, is that it was suppose to be only used on your own property (it was also called the "defend your castle" law). The law was intended to allow someone to use deadly force to protect their home and property. However, it is now being used by anyone with a gun who claims they were in fear for their lives, thus they are allowed to shoot first and asked questions later.
Were you trying to make a point with your last paragraph?

Good point,

good luck with thinking anything would be legiy with this case...something very wrong has already happened with the last judge tampering with the jury pool and demonizing the zimmermans..I do not give a fukk that the zimmermans didn't divulge the money normal people were raising for this innocent man as the money was notthe governments to fukk with it was soley for helping Zimmerman's future legal and social issues,not for a crooked judge to steal and make to be used for a purpose it was not for! bs on them trying to take the money for bail...The point was they had little for cail and the other money was given to be used afterwords ,again not for the crooked judge to steal! The bigoted judge and this administration wanted to steal the money with much of it raised even afyer they asked Zimmerman about finances so fukk them! Again it was not for and would have been fraud for them to steal as it was given for a specific reason and allowed to be used for that cause only...I can guarantee anyone that gave money did not give permission for it to be used but exactly what it was intended to be used for..Anything else would be fraud and if was on my credit card I would have made fraud charges on it and everyone else should have too!! Obama needs to be in jail for his poisoning of the jury pool and using our tax dollars again to spew hate and create racial attacks by his racist speech..people were murdered because of his words.

Yo Racist Dumbo, when setting bail the judge needs know what assets the person has, regardless what that money was meant for.

Doesn't that seem just a little wrong? Why should the amount of bail have anything to do with what monies one already possesses? If it is the case that a "rich" person would face a higher bail payment than a "poor" person would, then where is our "equal protection under the law"?

This entire situation is a racial and political slug fest. And you know what? Both sides are wrong.

Trayvon Martin should have called 911 and ran home to his daddy's house. He made a bad decision and decided to confront Zimmerman.

George Zimmerman should have kept his butt in his truck. Instead, he made a bad decision. He got out of the truck. He could have stayed in the truck and kept a visual on the guy. He could have driven behind him. Moved the truck up every half block of travel. Hind sight is 20/20. Coulda Shoulda Woulda. Instead he decided to follow Zimmerman on foot.

What happens beyond that to both of them is only known by 2.5 people. They are Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman, and the resident of the home located right by the incident. Go watch the YouTube video interviews. I doubt the resident saw the initial interaction between Zimmerman and Martin. I do believe he believes he saw what he described.

But the next time you go out, hold up your phone and snap a picture of whatever is around you. Now look at that picture for 20 seconds. Turn the phone over and write down EVERYTHING you remember in that picture under this format: Object, Position, Color. Now flip your phone over. Compare your list to reality. 100%? Nope. Take a picture of a brick wall. Close your eyes and visualize the wall. Count the bricks. Open your eyes, look at the picture. 100%? Nope.

Our recollection of any event is skewed to some degree by interpretation, emotion, ability to comprehend, and distraction. Ask a police officer how many times the eye witnesses get it wrong. It's pretty amazing that anyone is convicted of anything in this country based upon eye witness testimony. We are not computers. We are human and flawed from a memory perspective.

It appears the liberal side of our country wants the facts to be Zimmerman attacked a virginal alter boy.

It appears the conservative side of our country wants the facts to be Martin attacked Zimmerman who defended himself lawfully.

And the truth? It probably lies somewhere in the middle. But everyone just has to be right don't they? It's so much better to promote divisiveness, hate, and animosity right? We are all just so superior to the any opposition of our all mighty egos and opinions that we all might fall down and die of massive coronaries en masse should ANYONE develop a modicum of humility?

This is what we have all evolved to?

Have ANY of you idiots heard of reverse evolution?

Look around it. We are all participants.

Congratulations.

Really.

SMH.

I appreciate your even handed approach, and especially your analysis of the effects of perspective, emotional state, and individual level of skill at observation, on the value of eye-witness testimony.
I think this is why in the Old Testament, the Scripture repeatedly set down the law that no one could be convicted of a capital crime without *at least two* eye-witnesses whose testimony corroborates each other.

The very nature of capital crimes requires a very high standard of evidence. I think that our standard of evidence today is far too low, and has been for decades.
Better that a guilty man go free than that an innocent man suffer.
A guilty man will do one of two things:
a) Repent, change his life, and try to make amends, or
b) continue on his destructive way, and eventually incriminate himself beyond doubt.
Domestically, it is not the job of government to provide 100% security, only to provide for equal justice under the law.
Only on the borders, should 100% security be a goal.

Well, Reagan learned in the eighties not to trust the Democrats on anything, let alone on any promise of border security. He signed the amnesty bill believing the Democrats when they told him they would move to insecure the border. The result is well known and was a disaster for the country with millions of relatives illegally following their relatives here.

The second of only two times he ever believed the lying Democrats.

We seem to have some lying Republicans pushing this crapola as hard as Shumer, Menendez, etc.. Rubio, Graham, McCain, Flake, et al, must be primaried.

FINALLY SHE SAID SOMETHING RIGHT! Whoo-hoo!

Try & do the same sometime.

And the rest of the country learned to not trust Ronnie again after he committed a felony by selling arms to our enemy IRAN! And don't forget how he made a deal with IRAN to hold the hostages until he was sworn in as part of a deal to make him look presidential!

That is awesome! Love your point! Always challenge anyone who think they know how to define truth or reality, and if they tell you they know what it is you can tell them they are full of sh+t!

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

When he states that Zimmerman did this, but should have done that, and Martin did this, but should have done that, and we're all doing this, but ought to be doing that, how is he not defining truth or reality? You are both full of sh+t! Hypocritical as well.

Your a perfect example of a person who blurs the lines of Semantics! I suggest you read again, he is not trying to define truth or reality! There is no reason for you to insult, you can debate this topic like an adult. Why waste my time, you just don't get it!

Add obtuse to the list!

What are you so angry about? What is your cause? What do you stand for?