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Cedric Lynch • 10 years ago

One of the most suspicious things about the crash is that on one of the busiest days of the year the 360-seater aircraft, which media reports at the time said had been fully booked, had fewer than 250 passengers on board. This tends to imply that some people knew that something bad was likely to happen to this aircraft.

sandythescot • 10 years ago

Try looking up the name of Oliver "Buck" Revelle who was a high ranking CIA operative who was in the area at the time who pulled his son and daughter-in-law "off" the plane an hour before the flight and you are correct. Many people did not turn up for that flight

perthite • 10 years ago

Do you mean like all those hundreds of Jews who allegedly took the day off from their jobs in the Twin Towers on 9/11, but were never seen again or, if they were, then only in very small pieces?

When I was living in Israel in 1978, a couple I knew, a bus driver and his wife, rescheduled at the last moment their trip on the bus that was hijacked by PLO terrorists as part of the Coastal Road Massacre. None of the passengers on that bus survived. Are you telling me that my acquaintances had been tipped off? Some people are just lucky!

sandythescot • 10 years ago

Awe Perthite.! Touchy the day Aye.?..Who is talking about Jews in this thread. Who is talking about 911. I have argued for years on these threads here and elsewhere that all the answers lie in the US. They have all the info on what happened. The plane only crashed in Scotland. Stay with the thread Perthite and forget about Jews and Israel and come up with an answer why the two brother witnesses were paid $1,200,000 and $600,000 dollars respectively for giving evidence. This was paid by the US\UK govs.

Sharyn Bovat • 10 years ago

Buck Revell was FBI - I believe his son cancelled his flight on Pan Am because he was lucky and got advance warning. The Lebanese told people at the Moscow Embassy- those that knew of CIA drug trafficking. After the report was issued on the crash by Pan Am I was asked to go to the USSR (winter 1990) I was taken from my hotel room and detained by KGB - when I did not say anything "except" my country knows i'm here I was released and got taken to American consulate office in Leningrad. I got to have dinner with the consulate general and stayed in the same room Nixon stayed in on his Russia trip. When I got back to the states I was told "someone" thought I'd appreciate sleeping in an historic room... i thought it was CREEPY!!!

FYI- My cousin flew that route and my grandfather wanted her NOT to fly during the holidays. My Uncle was Chief Pilot of Pan Am and testified at Senate Intelligence committee. I do not know what he said. I do know that I've been terrorized by ex CIA linked due to my knowledge. That & twice I met Oliver North. One time he gave me a lecture while standing in a driveway on loyalty to my country and to "whom" I worked for. OK.....tmi.... The fact is there's a Russian link to the Lockerbie Cover Up and I want to know what it is. i have PTSD from being taken from my hotel room in the middle of the night - strapped to a board. I was driven around for hours and taken to an abandon hospital. All this was vetted by Gannett. The former Ben Bradlee winner knows I'm telling the truth.... Google Me... Sharyn Bovat

sandythescot • 10 years ago

Well Sharyn thank you for your interesting reply. I will google your name when I get back in tonight. The Scottish Law system came under a lot off bad press in the trial mainly because the US\UK Govs "paid" the two brother witnesses a lot off money to testify against a man who they said bought cloths from them 10 years earlier.??
Meghrahi was released on medical grounds but for me the main reason was he was about to appeal again with new evidence so it was more convenient for the UK to release him. I am so glad his family are still persuing his appeal so as more light will be shed on this tragedy. You know Meghrahi was in a Scottish Jail (Barlinnie) which is quite brutal and not a finger was raised against him by the prisoners because they knew he was innocent. You cant fool prisoners.

perthite • 10 years ago

"Meghrahi was in a Scottish Jail (Barlinnie) which is quite brutal and not a finger was raised against him by the prisoners because they knew he was innocent".

Aye, as innocent as they were! You've got to be joking, Sawney. Not a finger was raised against him because he was kept apart from other prisoners in a specially-built unit, dubbed the Gaddafi Cafe after Libya's dictator. The other prisoners, who could only dream of the luxurious conditions in his roomy accommodations, were prepared to kill him for a 5-pound phone card, plus the notoriety of killing a high profile inmate who was also, coincidentally, the most hated man in Scotland on account of the crime for which he had been convicted. You romanticise the criminal classes, Sawney, probably because they are the only ones in Scotland who keep to the old brigandish Highland ways.

sandythescot • 10 years ago

Yes he did live in these conditions and had special priveledges and his family lived in a house in the better \ best part of Glasgow all the while he was in jail..Why.??? These are all part of the mystery and he did mix with the other prisoners and came through it unscathed. Dr Jim Swires who's daughter died on the flight claims Meghrahi was innocent from the very start of the investigation and sat through every day of the trial and the evidence does not stand up to proper scrutiny.
Have you ever heard of witnesses being paid to give evidence.I have given evidence in court as a witness in Scottish Court and you can hardly get your bus fares out of them never mind all that money the brothers got. Look into it Perthite and leave out the J word.

Sharyn Bovat • 10 years ago

I was given 2nd hand info that Megrahi was paid for each month he was jailed. Also if anything happened to him there would be "repercussions" I do not know details of what that meant. I do not know what role he played in the Lockerbie bombing. The CIA & FBI still today say 100% he did play a role - although the role could just be "scapegoat".... I did ask that specific question and got a shrug. People know the truth... All i know is there was a cover up. Only about 400 people worldwide ever knew what happened and they are getting older or are dead. Many people I knew that knew died mysterious deaths. Sonny Bono and Margaret Lesher are two of them..... OK again TMI. Thank you Sandy the Scot for wanting the truth.

declan • 10 years ago

in my on personal theory many of these so called terror attacks like this and in spain england ect are performed and instigated by the u.s in order to get its western allies and the people from those countrys to be distrustful and dislike muslims and middle eastern nations that way we will go to war with them. i have no evidence for this just a huntch

sandythescot • 10 years ago

Repercussions against the Glasgow prison fraternity, I dont think so .You obviously not been to Glasgow.I go through for the football and come straight home. Anyway Sharyn a very interesting post and thanks for replying. I think the push for the truth to come out is more prelevent over here than in the states since it is a stain on the Scottish Judicial system.The worst stain being witnesses being paid under our system.

declan • 10 years ago

he was in solitary in berlinnie prisoners got no where near him

Martin Gasman • 10 years ago

"tends to imply" If one were to attach a number to the value of those words that number would be 0. Isn't that suspicious that the number chosen was invented by Arabs? Coincidence? Not bloody likely.

Cedric Lynch • 10 years ago

The reason why I said "tends to imply" rather than "means" is that there could possibly be an innocent explanation that I am unaware of for the very large number of no-shows, for example if the airline had made a mistake in the departure time given to the passengers. With the much lower use of the Internet and mobile phones that there was at that time, it would have been much harder for the airline to contact all the passengers with a correction than it would be now.
The number zero was actually invented by Indians but was quickly adopted by Arabs also. Before mocking its invention please try performing a mathematical calculation with some numbers in a form, such as the Roman one, that does not use the zero.

Martin Gasman • 10 years ago

I was mocking your ridiculous pointing the finger at Israel without a shred of evidence that would lead someone in that direction.

Cedric Lynch • 10 years ago

Where did I say anything about Israel? I think it is quite unlikely that a country's secret agents would blow up a civilian aircraft belonging to another country that is its main political and military ally.

Alasdair Maciver • 10 years ago

I hope one day we not just find out the truth, but have the confidence in our investigators to believe it. I don't know the truth, but I think it is likely that Lockerbie was retaliation for the Americans shooting down an Iranian airliner over the Straits of Hormuz. If you compare the two events you will find America valued a western life at $10M and an arab life at $200k - they set the reparations for both atrocities.

Conor McMenemie • 10 years ago

You have a point - when such an attack is made on the USA they have to be seen to retaliate otherwise they are seen as soft and an easy target - but attacking iran would be waaaay to much trouble for everybody. Ghadafi on the other hand is everybodys favourite bad guy - easy solution to a difficult problem.

daniel • 10 years ago

YOU SHALL NOT OPPRESS YOUR NEIGHBOR NOR ROB HIM,THE WAGES OF A HIRED MAN ARE NOT TO REMAIN WITH YOU ALL NIGHT UNTIL MORNING

Rubita • 10 years ago

Didn´t the US bomb kah Daffy Duck in retaliation for the Lockerbie bombing? Wasn´t his daughter [kah Daisy Duck] fake killed in that retaliatory strike? Didn´t the US then take kah Daffy´s side and conspire in an oil for torture operation against kah Daffy´s political opposition? Didn´t the US then support US client states to overthrow kah Daffy?

So the US knew it was kah Daffy Duck. Then they didn´t know. Then they knew again.... Now a complete change of government in Libya hasn´t changed anyone´s testimony??? America needs to tell mankind who to hate without constantly changing their minds.

Hey America!!! Should we hate the refugees that are fleeing this fiasco?

Edit: Ten million dollars a victim? The 9-11 victims received one million each. Meanwhile, your life and my life have a negative value to the US government.

Conor McMenemie • 10 years ago

despite the demerits its a good post - happy christmas

José María Petrosino • 9 years ago

As Argentinian and a private investigator of the bombings in Buenos Aires of Israel embassy in 1992 and AMIA building in 1994, that Israel and US attributed instantaneously to Iran/Hezbollah, I can say that the Lockerbie bombing was the same fakeness.
Iran and Jibril were the original false culprit, and thus false evidence was planted to point to them.
But then(first Irak war) Iran and Syria passed to be "necessary" to the US, and CIA change de false culprit on the fly and accuse to Megrahi and Fimah and indirectly to the regime of Kadafy, with the same fake evidences.
Is for this reason, that the accusation to Megrahi y Fimah was not sustained on trial, although Megrahi was convicted anyway.

A H • 10 years ago

Twenty-five years after the Lockerbie bombing, Al Jazeera has uncovered
evidence which casts doubt over the entire investigation and trial into
what was the biggest case of mass murder ever seen in Scotland. .................................... NOW AJ is being used by West just as Al Qaeda ............ Top secret documents after 25 years. Any pretext of harming any Muslim country will not be tolerated.

Sinbad2 • 10 years ago

Whilst it is an open secret that the Lockerbie bombing was retaliation for the USS Vincennes shooting down Iran air flight 655 and giving the Captain a commendation for killing 290 people, I'm not sure the US wants to reopen this wound. At the time there were allegations of the FBI fabricating evidence against Libya. The US bombed Libya sanctioned the country and extracted 3 billion in compensation, for something Libya never did.

This could leave the US open to multi trillion dollar law suits. The relatives who received compensation would have to return the money, and the US Government and many US agencies would be seen to be criminals. I'm surprised this story hasn't been squashed by the US.

SUNDON • 10 years ago

this is a norm you kill your own people and create new reasons to become more powerful. Law of politics! Anyways The contract expires after 50 years so will only get to know the truth after another 25 years, only if the the signatory is alive..alas!!!

Guest • 10 years ago

""Who was really behind the Lockerbie bombing?"

The man who was eventually sodomized by his own people.

Guest • 10 years ago
Dar Jeeling • 10 years ago

Ha ..Ha ... you remind me of when a tourist on an Egyptian beach was bitten by a shark.
The Egyptians said it must have been a Mossad trained shark.

Vkhodyashchiy • 10 years ago

a goatboy conspiracist

Guest • 10 years ago
guest • 10 years ago

maybe your real father is also mossad agent. thats what all the evidence points to

Vkhodyashchiy • 10 years ago

No his real father was a Mossad goat. The Mossad agent tuned out the lights while the goat did his mom

Martin Gasman • 10 years ago

How much did the MOSSAD pay me to read what you wrote, convert it to the Japanese Purple Code to aid Indiana Jones cure his well-known fear of snakes? We'll never know because it was a rogue MOSSAD operation reporting only to the police department official banging Bill O'Reilly's wife in the never-ending "War On Christmas".