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Mike Millan • 7 years ago

The guns are pointed at the wrong people. Stop corporate terrorism.

aeonpi • 7 years ago

Agreed and this is happening more often than not

dale ruff • 7 years ago

This is a siege, an act of war against American citizens and the native people from whom the land was originally stolen: Let this be the beginning of a national worldwide resistance.

siege
sēj/Submit
noun
a military operation in which enemy forces surround a town or building, cutting off essential supplies, with the aim of compelling the surrender of those inside.

When those assigned to protect our rights are used to deny them, we invoke the right of revolution, as justified in our founding document, the Declaration of Independence.

BIOLYNX49@GMAIL.COM • 7 years ago

This is exactly what President Bush signed into law, in the patriot Act, shortly after that bogus 9/11.

nochipforme • 7 years ago

This entire story is an operation. Just like the Bundy, Oregon, yellowcake provocation. How many times does AP have to put like stories up multiple times before people realize that the "Activist Post" is an agency.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Evidence? Source? Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

nochipforme • 7 years ago

Interesting, I posted links to some "evidence" and AP has moderation enabled. Even though the links will probably be approved, censorship should always be a red flag to anyone that uses rational thinking.

debilee • 7 years ago

Hmm strange that. Censorship is rife ATM dale ruff has been here for years pouncing on anyone who speaks Truth then demands peer reviewed bullshit as evidence.

blue579 • 7 years ago

Harvard and Berkeley educations in political science and not a peep about the research of Carroll Quigley and Antony Sutton, or the steady march towards a global authoritarian technocracy (which Eisenhower warned us of in the same well known speech he spoke about the rise of a M.I.C.). Instead of helping us connect the dots, he calls us uninformed and paranoid "right wing" conspiracy theorists.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Provide the information I am lacking and I will thank you. I have written dozens of articles about creeping fascism, now full-blown with Trump. See my recent articles at Quora and opednews. I ask for evidence and leave the name calling to you.

blue579 • 7 years ago

We've had this waltz before, Dale, and it always leaves something to be desired knowing full well that you have the "world class education" (as you refer to your Harvard days) to dig deeply into all that I touched on in my short paragraph. One would think intellectual curiosity would have compelled you to do so many years ago. That's your choice, but to pretend there isn't important context there is disingenuous, imo.

aeonpi • 7 years ago

Look I am not sure what this public Spectacle is about but I DO KNOW ITS not about STANDING ROCK!

blue579 • 7 years ago

You're exactly right, which is one reason I tried to limit my responses here even though D.R. sent another 10 long replies to me. Although, the Infowar and what Standing Rock represents is very much a part of a powerful organized undercurrent being actively exposed by in-depth researchers and some people are sensitized to and pro-active in heading off sources of disinfo that appear to side step the Big Picture.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Did you read the Berkeley Earth Project and the Exxon studies, as I recommended? No..hmnnnn. I only mention my education when someone says I am obviously uneducated. That's fair, isn't it.

As for the people you mention, I have read them and I have railed for all my life against the MIC. " all that I touched on in my short paragraph."

Mentioning a name is not evidence: evidence is historical examples or data that can be checked. I have read your sources (long before you) and found them right on some issues, wrong on others. I use critical skills to separate the speculative from the empirical. What particular ideas, since both men wrote on many subjects, do you claim I denounce?

I can't respond to a name....give me the information and I will respond. Otherwise, you are just throwing out names with no context, and I refuse to descend to your level of name-calling. Instead of telling me (and you are usually wrong) what I think, ask me. I am asking you to provide evidence of disinformation I spread with sources and what part of Quigley and Sutton ( I studied with the late Samuel Huntington who wrote The Clash of Civilizations turned him down when he asked me to be his research assistant) do you want me to respond to. I am looking for civil intelligent discussion of issues.....so just ask or provide the info you want to know my views of. And please read the Earth Project and Exxon studies......no intelligent conversation is possible without dealing with these critical studies, funded by the fossil fuel industry. Ok?

Have you read the sources I have recommended who come from the skeptical side and so ought to interest you????No?????

blue579 • 7 years ago

You didn't reveal your education to me because I accused you of being uneducated. That's not my style. You were cozying up to compare academic interests...you intimated as a much younger man, you knew about the Trilateral Commission and their long term agenda.

Focusing exclusively on the MIC is a form of a limited hangout, and a dangerous one at that. We can see the end game coming into view observing China's Social Credit Score system. All dissent silenced in an uber Orwellian control grid.

From the WSJ 11/28/16: "The national social-credit system’s aim, according to a slogan repeated in planning documents, is to “allow the trustworthy to roam everywhere under heaven while making it hard for the discredited to take a single step.”

dale ruff • 7 years ago

You may be lying but someone said I was uneducated and so I shared my top rate education, which I earned, since both parents only graduated 8th grade. What is your education background and science resume?

eddysaxx • 7 years ago

Blue 579 is straight goods & does NOT Lie ...or even embellish...watch your mouth DR!....I can guarantee you don't want me on your case!

debilee • 7 years ago

I know right, all the while spreading disinformation, dale ruff is a cancer to the Truth.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

That's a kind thing to say to a 75 yr old with cancer, who spends his time studying and reporting on objective truth. You have yet to provide evidence of my disinformtion and continue to libel me. Why are you so filled with hatred?

debilee • 7 years ago

I have just posted your quote about the shill dale ruff. I hope you don't mind.

blue579 • 7 years ago

Open source knowledge, that's my passion. ;-)

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Hey, let's gang up on shill Dale. We have no evidence to refute him so lets mug him! Whoopeee. Thank you for the entertainment.

debilee • 7 years ago

You are welcome.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Those who spread hatred are the first to die from it, as hatred is a poison.

debilee • 7 years ago

It says there is a comment but I am unable to see it.... Censorship of Truth.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Lies are also censored it is called the libel law.

debilee • 7 years ago

It must have been your comment then.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

I do not lie. I report on science and scholarship and so I have no reason to lie or resort to insults.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

And when I ask for evidence, I am always told: I already gave it. I applaud anyone who backs their comments with evidence and urge you to provide evidence and stop claiming you been there done that. I recall you gave a scientist as a source, and I looked her up, and she totally refuted you, since she said I believe in Global Warming and human contribution but don't know how much. When your own sources contradict your claims, that is not Truth and it is not evidence. So I await credible evidence, tho since you have none, you will find an excuse (I gave it to you!).....now I base my thinking on evidence so clearly, your failed efforts don't count. I would like an intelligent discussion...you prefer to call names and find reasons not to support your assertions.

What is better than peer-reviewed studies? Why do you call something of which you are totally ignorant bullshit. Could that be fear of the Truth?

Bad science in time gets cought. Peer review is not just at publication, but young scientists and scholars all over the world know they can make their careers by finding flaw in accepted research...and this is why science has worked, without a central committee or centralized control, for hundreds of years, giving , the internet, cures for diseases, space flights, etc, all built on peer-reviewed studies.

Anyone who hates science will condemn it. That makes you a perfect useful idiot for the corporate propagandists as well as anti-science politicians bought by the corporations. Bad government science has been the result of corporate take over of agencies like USDA .

You can choose peer-reviewed information or propaganda. Your choice.

I wait your answer to better sources of information than peer-reviewed. I expect you will find an excuse.............you always do. Prove me wrong.

blue579 • 7 years ago

"What is better than peer-reviewed studies?" Peer reviewing is flawed just as humanity is flawed - profit motives, group think, and institutional inertia are not immune to the peer review circle-jerk distortion process. Vioxx anyone?

nochipforme • 7 years ago

I can't like your comment twice

blue579 • 7 years ago

Thanks.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Peer-review is not perfect but it is self-correcting. What is better?

blue579 • 7 years ago

It's not self correcting when the foundation is corrupt, it perpetuates myths. Transparency of all manner, the brightest lights and no blind worship of "experts" - they should be benevolent guides, not self-delusional snobs.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

That's a non sequitur; clearly self-correction is not instant and sometimes takes many years, as young scientists pour over "established science" looking for errors. Sooner or later, bad science is exposed by good science.

Self-correction is over time, after pre-publication peer-review; it may takes months or years, sooner or later, the errors are exposed....and that is why science has been so successful for so long and why we are able to communicate over the internet.

Corrupt foundations like Monsanto try to control research but note that recently, they have been losing the argument and the IARC of WHO totally refutes their biased research...this is self-correction, not by the corporation but by scientists outside: the UN study of glyphohosate as carcinogenic was done by 18 scientists from 11 nations, with no vested interest in making Monsanto Happy for a bright pay day.

Peer review and self-correction eliminate blind worship of experts as science is filled with examples of experts being proved wrong and better science replacing bad science. What better system has ever been devised that continuous peer review and self-correction.????? Cynnicism is not a system. What better system exists or has been more successful? That's a simple question and since you so disagree with me, you must have the system at hand.

debilee • 7 years ago

"Please note that Dale Ruff trolls Activist Post to aggressively shout down skeptics of the Establishment's position on climate change. He thinks mandatory vaccinations are fine and criticizes skeptics of official vaccine scientism. He also harasses threads on Geoengineering, saying there is no such thing as a chemtrail, we are all delusional. He believes the UN blueprint for human rights (which emphasizes collectivism over individual liberties) is perfect and he never ever criticizes the globalist Rockefellers but the globalist Kochs are fair game (see the dialectic here?). Notice how he attacks generally held understandings of Putin's past that are not recorded in the official academic record but he COMPLETELY ignores the far more important work done by Sutton. Just as not many Americans know about Antony Sutton's critically important research, few will dig even deeper to understand the Deep State here or anywhere else. Using Dale's logic, we all should accept the official fairy tale of 9/11 because the "experts" in almighty government and academia don't challenge the Big Lies."

dale ruff • 7 years ago

I would like to see individuals respond to me instead of making comments about me to your gang. I am a student of the Deep State. See my critical essays a opednews.
Even when I agree with you, you denounce me to your comrades. I suggest we work together with civility and standards of intellectual honesty to find the truth rather than throwing word bombs even when I am on your side.

There is no "official academic record" of Putin. I have been away from the university for 50 years and in that time have used the entire universe of knowledge as my library.

What would you like to tell me about the Rockefellers that I didn't learn years ago.

I write much longer and detailed posts than anyone and yet what I write is misunderstood or ignored and I am criticized for not writing about.............everything.
That is why I urge you to read my articles since that will give you an an accurate view of my views.

I reject the lies about 9/11 and have written about it if you care. I ask you to read my articles so you don't make such blunders....but I judge you are afraid to find the truth so you proclaim you already have it, tho you present no evidence and thus can be dismissed without further ado. I oppose global capitalism from Columbus to Trump. I write against it. I study it. And yet you accuse me of being an apologist.

That, if anything, would indicate that you are being paid to lash out.........or are you just poorly educated? At any rate, you are wrong about me.......time after time.

debilee • 7 years ago

We cant all be wrong dale. I have had issues with you in the past regarding Geoengineering where you refuse to admit its existence. You call Me a Liar for using my own eyes ? quoting "peer reviewed" (paid for) science as if that Trumps my own eyesight ! Where I live do you know we had only TWO WEEKS of Sunshine in 2016 Is that normal ? Is it "normal" to watch plane after plane white out an Entire sky ? Or to rain so heavy every single day that the ground is flooded - except for Two weeks in August ? Or what about growing food, that should be doable right ? Wrong NOTHING is growing here I have tried and failed to grow anything in this engineered climate. what about the poor birds, is it "normal" to see dead birds everywhere ? Dying trees ? I am not getting into this with you - been there done that - And I am Autistic Not "poorly educated"

dale ruff • 7 years ago

Who is We? I accept the findings of 99.9% of the world's climate scientists. The only We that matters in science is not the public, or leaders, but scientiists who review each other's work. I report that geo-engineering is a proposal with some limited experiments beyond seeding clouds. It has nothing to do with contrails, and I based this on what a atmospheric scients say. When you see trails in the sky, you may believe they are poisoning you, and that is paranoia, not lying. You are believe liars who have spent tens of millions to confuse the scientifically untrained. I have limited training which is why I accept the word of real researchers.

As for abnornal weather, that is what the climate scientists have been saying about the disruptions caused by global warming. It is normal if you viewing a flight path to see trails when the planes are above 30,000 in freezing temps where the moisture of jet emissions (which is polluted) freezes. I asked you to do your own research and compare the planes you see with the flight plan maps. Did you do that? I also asked you to see if you ever saw contrails lower than the cirrus cloud level, such as at or below the cumulous or rain cloud altitude, which would be used for targeting. Did you do that?

Do you understand that pollution is easily explained as the cause of poisoning the soil, the water, and the atmosphere; it kills tens of millions a year. You are begging the question assuming and "seeing" what you want to see rather than educating yourself by studying climate and atmospheric science and understanding the empirical basis for their conclusions based on research.

Dead birs, dying trees: ask the Koch brothers, Exxon, the coal companies who have been poisoning for centuries. They are not only poisoning us but they are creating myths like chemtrails and AWG is hoax to block regulation of the poison they spew and the results of which you see. They also charge you, in terms of more polluted air and water and soil, for the damage they do through higher insurance costs and higher taxes.

You say you are not poorly educated but you said peer-review is bullshit. Only a poorly educated, with no background in science, would make such a comment, a kind of admission of willful ignorance. I have taught the autistic: that is no excuse for insulting me or denying science. All this stuff in your head is not autism but junk science you have learned off junk science websites.

debilee • 7 years ago

WE are ALL the people who have been unfortunate in trying to get any sense out of you. Thats it. I refuse to read anymore of your Books/Lies because I value my time. As for you being a 75 year old with Cancer AND ? Your point is what ? You ARE a cancer to the Truth WEAR IT.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

This We is a handful of haters, like you. Your ugly lies that my evidence-based claims are a cancer is cruel to someone who has cancer. Your hatred now bounds.
It will kill you. You are a sadist. It will kill you.

When you direct hate at those who are suffering, you show your true colors. I have agreed with you but even that brings your lies and hatred. I wish you better. I am a kind person, and I hope you will see the light of how much evil your hatred is spreading. Please leave me alone, as you are making me sick.

nochipforme • 7 years ago

Dale, you seem like a reasonable person, so I will appeal to your ability to understand how corporations and institutions get their funding and consider that there really is criminal corruption that takes place at all levels of institutions, public and private. The easiest way to get to the bottom of almost every crime, is to "follow the money." The love of money motivates people much more than truth or integrity.

Science, by definition is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

The single most common, unobservable and non-reproducible "fact" that come from the academic halls of "science" is evolution. I want to ad links here, but Activist Post has censored them many times before, so if you are willing to search out these documentaries and investigate the claims that are presented, you would be noble and show objectivity in your worldview. Critical thinking and reasonable educated discussions are welcomed.

Here is what I would ask you to search on YouTube :"The Genesis theory part one" by White Rabbit; "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" by Ben Stein;

If you are brave enough and really wanting to get into the deeper subjects to "debunk" accusations of criminal corruption at the highest levels of governments and corporations, check out "9/11 Masterminds: Explosive Connections"

In this world where deception takes place at every level of society, it is a wise and noble venture to investigate and discover the truth behind every single thing that a person believes, because what we believe directly effects our worldview and how we make decisions.

That is IF you are noble and brave enough to spend half the time investigating as your spend typing. :)

Please do check out my channel "Church: A Not-For-Prophet Corporation" I also have many discussions specifically targeting the direct lies that are commonly believed by religious people. I am a man of science, facts and truth. I have discovered that emotions have a lot to do with a person believing lies, so it is difficult for most people to lay aside their emotions and their beliefs to investigate the facts.

Cheers.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

I have written about corporate fascism and the hijacking of government in many articles. Are you suggest evolution is not an observable fact? Biologists observe it mutating and a good example was when the coal fired factories in 19th century England turned the whitish tree bark black with soot. The moths mutated and the white moths (for camoflage on white bark turned black; when the pollution was cleaned up. they mutated back to white to hide on the white bark. Evolution as a process is an empirical fact.

Evolution as a theory has become only stronger over the years. A theory is an explanation that fits all the facts and has no counter facts.

The higher level of evolution, according to Darwin, was co-operation. Animals and communities which co-operate have a higher chance of survival.

I studied physical anthropology with a Dr. Washburn, one of the great minds of his field. Where did you study evolution?

nochipforme • 7 years ago

I was wrong about the possibility that you are a reasonable person that would actually investigate opposing information. I gave you some documentaries to look up. If you find any proof that any of the information that is written therein is false, then please do share.

According to you, your great great great great grand dad was slime and he came from a rock, billions of years ago in a galaxy far far away.....
There is good and there is evil. every man has committed evil against God and against His creation. There is a coming judgment and no man can stand innocent of sin against the Almighty God. God is just and will not allow one evil work to go unpunished. Because He truly loves us, He provided a way in which we might escape the eternal penalty for our crimes. He gave His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ to come to the earth in the form of a man to walk perfectly without ever sinning. He became the sin of mankind so that the wrath of God that is due us, was satisfied upon HIM. He went to the grave and He did rise from the dead three days later. He ascended into heaven to make intercession for us unto the Father and to show mercy to all men that will but call upon His name. He is going to return soon and He shall indeed destroy the wickedness of mankind in a very dark day of destruction...coming soon to an earth near you;)

I recommend actually checking those videos out thoroughly and hopefully before you breathe your last breath, turn to the Lord with a contrite heart and really cry out to the Father. He forgives all sin, except blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Most atheists have not come to that point.

I saw that you mentioned that you have cancer. I am sorry to read that. I do not know what type or stage, I hope it is non aggressive and early. Please also look into Vitamin B17 and alkalinity in the body.

I personally met a senior professor of medicine at Purdue Lafayette that admitted that she was aware of B17 and many other natural things that not only prevent cancer, but fight it effectively. She is not allowed to have her staff teach the students about these things because it is injurious to the financial capital of the "Industry." Cancer is the largest money maker.

I hope you look into all things that I have claimed here and hopefully, at the very least, kick the cancer through the means which God provided, because He really does love us.

debilee • 7 years ago

Cannabis is also a cure for Cancer but dale doesn't believe in all that. I know for a fact it works, I have seen it with my own eyes, but dale will still dispute that because its the Truth and that hurts him.

dale ruff • 7 years ago

I am the only non-aggressive person here using logic and evidence, questions, and standard English, while others call me names, shout, etc etc. I do not shout down: I present evidence and ask for yours. I sense you might be projecting your anger at me for refusing to be crude or aggressive.....

debilee • 7 years ago

Take a look at dale ruffs comments, just type in Google dale ruff and watch what happens. "I am the only non-aggressive person here using logic and evidence" - says dale. Google says otherwise.

debilee • 7 years ago

You can stop talking to me now I really don't want to talk to a Liar like yourself, you are contaminating my brain with your NonSense. Goodbye.

nochipforme • 7 years ago

This comment was addressed to yourself...just so you know. LOL

dale ruff • 7 years ago

I have been asking all of you to read my articles. Google says nothing but lists my articles, which are attacks on globalism, racism, etc. You are adding lie upon lie: those who live by lies die by lies. I am assertive in my views, because they are based on evidence and 55 years of study and reflection. I am not aggressive, as that is using force, which I reject in my life, refusing even to eat meat and have spent a life opposing racial injustice, criminal wars, and globalist exploitation. Assertion is a right; aggression is unethical. The 50 times you have called me a shill are 50 cases of aggression thru the crime of libel.

You are seeking to humiliate me because you feel humiliated by being exposed as a liar.......you pile hatred on hatred......seeking to rally your tiny group of haters to attack me more. This is an admission of failure as an intellectual and human being.
You can be helped but not until you stop hating. I have offered common ground and you have responded not with joy in finding agreement but in hatred because you seem to need to hate..................."Paranoia runs deep; it starts when your home isn't free..." CSNY

My philosophy is "unconditional compassion," which requires active resistance to evil.

Please stop hating and leave me alone. I do wish you well but ask you kindly not to address me again. Thank you.