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David Marolda • 7 years ago

The gutter nature of manny of the comments hers has turned me off enough to leave... as in now.

Anthony Papagallo • 8 years ago

when the shooting starts its very likely the sight of a U.S carrier up-ended sinking and in flames with its compliment of 5000 sailors drowning and burning alive after it has been hit by a phalanx of Chinese anti-ship missiles, being broadcast live on CNN, will have a polarising effect on millions of angry disenfranchised armed Americans who's leaders will suddenly find themselves in a 'Go Nuclear or Go Home' confrontation.
China needs only to make the U.S military 'bleed' for the streets of Provincial America to erupt into flames as ordinary Americans realise they are, once again, being royally screwed by their leaders who are asking the mothers and fathers of America to send more of their children to their deaths so vietnamese market traders and filipino taxi drivers can get a better deal?

Just how stupid are you America?

Jacke • 8 years ago

The U.S. cannot win a war economically with China and sanctions would hurt America lots more than China.
Our Wall Street pigs cringe now every time China loses a few points in their stock market and the bankers will not allow the politicians they control that push endless war to lose money for them.
America has no right to try and play dictator in the South China sea it'[s just more endless war mongering to ensure a conflict is on the horizon.

China, Japan and Korea need to work this out without the threat of war by the West.
The West created the Chinese economy out of pure greed and is stuck with it for the foreseeable future.

Sarastro92 • 8 years ago

Kaziantis insinuates that a US war with China will be a set-piece battle. That's childish. War between nuclear powers rapidly escalates to thermonuclear exchanges. Measured, half-hearted tactics will not be employed by the belligerents.

Once war seems inevitable satellite communications will be taken out and with the most Command and Control capabilities. China has hypervelocity weapons and swarms of cruise missile that will take out US aircraft carriers.

The US likely will escalate until the whole confrontation goes nuclear.

stefanstackhouse • 8 years ago

Oceania has always been at war with EastAsia.

The Dead Rabbits • 8 years ago

Amazing how completely the case for abetting the "Peaceful Rise" of China has collapsed. All those charlatans (Barshefsky, Medieros, Nye, Greenert etc) who kept the concessions coming Beijing's way over the years should now line up and take a mouthful of crow, then promptly shut up and sit back down, thank you.

Guest • 8 years ago
fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

in 1979,there are 3 women vietnamese women militia who fight in the trench that killed almost 100 PLA in the night,when PLA got them,PLA cut these women to pieces of meat

Guest • 8 years ago
Springfire • 8 years ago

If Vietnam was as powerful as you said, you won't be screaming as ridiculously as you are now.

fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

the unit of PLA that fight in vietnam in 1979 is the same troop that went to TIANAMEN SQUARE to killed 300,000 chineses student

Guest • 8 years ago
fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

chineses PLA has show thoughout their history,they are perfect at killing people with no gun,when they kill they say these people can not shoot back????the same with chinese student-----kmer rouge-----they kill 2,000,000 cambodian with no gun'
in TIANAMEN SQUARE,midnight PLA is not hesitate to shoot straight into chineses student and T54 tank run over chineses student
in conclusion,it take a criminal mind to kill innocence person with no remorse feeling or a serial killer perhap????

fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

red china PLA is a perfect killing machine at killing innocence chineses citizen-----1,000,000 chineses FALONGONG(these are chineses born and raised in china) all these rambo action taked place in china from 1986----1990,also red china selling human body part of FALONGONG too,the whole package
PLA master piece are 1989 TIANAMEN SQUARE at midight,chineses PLA shoot straight,directly,direcho into chineses student,PLA aimed and shoot staIght into chineses student whom don't has gun to shoot back,
later PLA say----IT IS FUN AND SAFE TO SHOOT AT CHINESES STUDENT----UH,THEY CAN NOT SHOOT BACK?????
funny is THE PLA WHO KILLED CHINESES STUDENT WAS THE SAME UNIT THAT INVADED VIETNAM IN 1979
so, now the world known how dangerously PLA is?????

fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

please,if you curiuos then see the document video of TIANAMEN SQUARE where PLA aimed and shoot straight into chinese student,EXECUTION STYLE,COUP DETACH,AIMED STRAIGHT INTO THE FACES,it take a a very cold heart to kill and murder somebody you dont known(shooting at someone who can not shoot back is declared as murder)
a normal person dont has the gut to shoot at someone you dont known
in the army,they teach you to kill in 6 months,yes but as a fighting force not murder,please

Sinbad2 • 8 years ago

An escalation of tensions in the South China Sea will be good for Russia.
Not only will China accelerate the New Silk Road project, but China will want some of those gizmo's that shut down US weapons systems. How much would that kind of technology be worth?

fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

russian weapon are liked toy for us,iraq war,all russian tank,truck,artillary are destroy and baking by the 10,000 in the desert,also mig29 drop liked fly so is sukoi 27

shark • 8 years ago

It is possible because US is a war mongering nation and its citizen dont have democratic right.

nvtncs • 8 years ago

"Marco Rubio Needs To Go

...Nowhere is this more obvious than in East Asia, where I lived for 27 years. In infrastructure alone the contrast is stunning. As nations like China, Japan, and South Korea have forged ahead with ever-more impressive subway lines, fast-rail systems, state-of-the-art airports, record-breaking suspension bridges, and quick-as-a-flash optical fiber networks, the United States has allowed its once world-leading infrastructure quietly to moulder.

America’s loss of position is even more astounding in manufacturing and trade. A fundamental problem is that Washington has been almost effortlessly outsmarted by the East Asians in trade deal after trade deal. In truth the East Asians have had it easy because a corrupt American political establishment sells itself so cheap.

No nation has understood the stupidity of America’s trade policy more clearly than post-Mao China. On the one hand, American leaders have thrown the U.S. market wide open to Chinese exports. On the other, they have ignored Beijing’s in-your-face blocking of virtually all advanced American exports to China. The United States has been by far the most
serious victim of Chinese protectionism – far more serious even Japan, which allegedly the Chinese view with particular disfavor.

As soon as American corporations come up with a more efficient new production technology, they ship it overseas where it will boost the productivity of foreign workers. Any corporation that wants to sell in China must not only manufacture there but bring its best production technology. Then it is expected to export back to the United States.
Even apparently solid U.S. manufacturers like Boeing, Caterpillar, and Corning Glass have long since sourced many of their most advanced components and materials from Japan, Korea, Germany, and other manufacturing-focused nations..."

March 06, 2016
Eamonn Fingleton
Forbes

If China believed it had some kind of moral mandate to force its own sociopolitical beliefs on every country in the world, maybe there would be a war

Fortunately not every country acts like children on the world stage

Baltazar Mejia • 8 years ago

Interesting thought experiment of a possible scenario. Will Taiwan be the next Sudetenland? In the face of an expanding China military will Japan be given free reign towards militarization? It isn't like they don't have the technology nor tradition. They currently are only spending 1% of GDP compared to the 3.5% for US, 2.8% for S. Korea or 2% by China.

We speculate because it is a possibility. The worst result in a conflict comes when you are not prepared. Fires are pretty uncommon all things considered, but you wouldn't like to just ignore the possibility. It also comes from the idea that you face a threat while it is emerging and not after its out of control. Sudetenland remember?

My take, a trade war is much more likely, but even that is unlikely since I don't see a motive. Sure there is capability, but just like in a crime drama, where is the motive? Given that China is even more capitalistic than the US is now, where would be the gain to cover the cost? To me its a high stakes poker match for the possible annexation of Taiwan (or negotiated annex like Hong Kong), and gaining undersea resources in the waters China claims.

leighsydneychina • 8 years ago

The question is, is it avoidable? The US has obligations with its allies in the region. That is why it has allies. But the allies include Japan, South Korea and Philippines. India has a vested interest in Vietnam. The volitility is caused by china. This stupidity of the 9 dashes in the South china Sea is the cause. 5 years ago, china was looking to create a SE Asian free trade zone, similar to the EU. china and the region were looking at growth and working toward creating wealth and trade. eleven has put an end to all of this. He has created this tension by INVADING the regions and territories of neighbouring countries. What a fool.

Anyone remember Hitler and Czechoslovakia? This is exactly the same. When dictators such as Hitler, Pootin and Eleven push, it is up to the world to push back. Britain should have done this in 1938. US and its allies AND all of those involved need to push back against china.

china is a wonderful country with wonderful people. eleven is going to rain destruction upon them........

Springfire • 8 years ago

9 dash line was declared in 1947. No country in the world at that time objected (if you find any objection, please let us know). Philippines' claim only started in 1980's. If there is any invasion, it is US crony Philippines are doing it.

In fact, US government says that it does not take side on dispute. Are you lying or US government is lying?

leighsydneychina • 8 years ago

Neither. When you declare yourself the king of the world, should everyone be expected to rebuff your claim, or just look at it as the words of an arrogant and stupid fool?

Of course, the 9 dash line or 11 dash line is the historical evidences of its sovereignty provided by China unilaterally, which have never been accepted by most foreign countries. When China drew these dash lines, most neighboring countries were still colonized and there was no way for them to claim sovereignty like today. Furthermore, both KMT and CCP governments were the main culprits who shall be blamed for today's stalemate. At first they were indulging in Civil War instead of exercising effective controls when the US agreed to transfer the control of these islands to China after Japan's surrender.

Then after CCP seized the power, Mao Zedong was willing to sacrifice hundred thousands of solider to save Kim Il sung' s regime, but would not spare any resource to control these islands. His successor Deng Xiaoping would wage a war to take control Vietnam's barren mountains, but had no interest in occupying the islands. Only when there were oil and gas discovered in this area, China showed its enthusiasm and claimed sovereignty accordingly.

After China became the signatory of UNCLOS, it is more difficult and impractical for China to claim sovereignty in South China Sea on the basis of 9 dash line as it acknowledges the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles,(i.e. China shall waive the rights to claim for sovereignty over those areas exceeding 12 nautical miles) unless China can prove and other countries agree it is the Archipelagic State under UNCLOS.

springnick • 8 years ago

:), believe me, if that happen, China will ensure PH...., all the US little accessories nuked more than 2 times, they deserve that. Hope you last one to be burned so that you can see all the fireworks.

BroccoliRob • 8 years ago

This comment shows why the US must slap China down right now. Let's see how brave China is, now that the Stennis Strike Group has arrived. TRY SOMETHING! Please bring out that Russian-reject carrier. We need some entertainment.

springnick • 8 years ago

You are only qulified to say things like this if you are in service, China is here to wait you to bring down, right now.

leighsydneychina • 8 years ago

I am sorry? What are you trying to say? I don't understand. Are you saying that china will nuke the US 2 times? Really? Do you have any understanding of the American nuclear arsenal? If I am reading this wrong, please correct me. But I do not know what PH is supposed to me.

As for buring me? Why? Do you know what country I am from? You appear to be a moron.

springnick • 8 years ago

I don't believe you are from US, you are a robot , don't sleep?

Crom! • 8 years ago

wumaos running their mouths like diarrhea. Once your pathetic rubber ducky wuamo navy is sunk, what garbage will you speak of next?

takedat • 8 years ago

It's all about America not wanting to give up its stranglehold on the region since the end of WWII. The U.S. took over where bloody old England left off, thinking they alone control this planet.

Astrotraveler • 8 years ago

Wasn't the USSR in Afghanistan for a while too, but then ejected by hostile pajama wearing locals?

"The Soviet Union, ending a long silence about the exact number of its casualties in the war in Afghanistan, said today that 13,310 soldiers had been killed, 35,478 wounded and 311 are missing."

And they LOST, badly. Pathetic, really.

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

They are. And nobody asked for it, but over zealous China.

Tianhe • 8 years ago

Since the US has only defeated Grenada and Panama since WWII, it is a little ambitious to take on China.
First, your allies have greater economc ties with China rather than with US. If the US attacks China the rest of the world will avoid the conflict.

Secondly a country under attack rallies around the government. Even if the CP is overthrown. any Chinese govt will continue to pursue the same economic and military goals.Indeed, ifthe overthrow of Imperial Germany given in the article as an example, a defeated China may end up with an even more militaristic and aggressive regime.

Lastly, it is easier to start a war than finish it, An occupation of China is far too costly, conventional bombing not devastating enough, and China has nukes. If the Chinese continue building more weapons including an enormous nuclear arsenal, how do you stop them?

Crom! • 8 years ago

No nation has any interest in invading a sick populated country like china. The chinese can keep china, but they can't own the south china sea. The US's only interest is to ensure it's 5 trillion dollar zone of trade is not violated by bogus chinese claims of sovereignty made from crayola crayons.

fu-yu-chin • 8 years ago

if it is not for american ,china today speak japanese----HONDA,SUZUKI,TOYOTA,KAWAZAKI, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yun • 8 years ago

said an idiotic Philipino under a decent comment from a smart person.....

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

" US has only defeated Grenada and Panama since WWII" ???

There you go for that indecent proposal of communication.

Learn to read this

Yun • 8 years ago

Who said this dude? Surely it's not me, though I kind of agree.

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

you should be, like your comments, only for the ghost of your ancestors.

"Yun" >>another Mao's Cutural Revolution Great Leap Backwards by product.

Yun • 8 years ago

said a philoy whom we just think is a joke.....

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

you chinese is the JOKE! live with it and move on!
like this kind of chinese

springnick • 8 years ago

Low carbon life is practicing by Chinese,

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

ya a good chinese knows how to reduce his carbon footprints, unlike his masters at CCP destroying reefs for selfish alleged BOGUS rights.

Or maybe your this dude reporting an errand for your masters at CCP.

Yun • 8 years ago

Is he Chinese? hmmm, smart! Philoys can't make this.
It's not us to blame if Chinese Ghosts scare the crap out of you and make you insane....

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

Well you might become one, if you are hard headed like commie china.

Yun • 8 years ago

You philoys can never be smart enough to make anything that runs........
But who cares? philoys fulfill people's expectation selling bananas..

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

ask them why, go visit it.

springnick • 8 years ago

They are forced to live in this ghost ship for purpose of grabbing China's island, this ghost ship will be eventually be bombed. They will be put into jail because they violated Chinese Law.

ferdinand marcos • 8 years ago

ya, tell your master CCP what's holding them, are they afraid of a Ghost?

hahahaha hohohohohhhoh............yellow balls!