I'l miss you DotF.

Thanks much Mike.

We have several potential staters next year with little or no track record. Despite that, I am against trading several high end prospects for a pitcher.

Obtaining a middle of the rotation starter, perhaps, but I suspect the cost will still be quite high considering the free agent market.

Sanchez "could become an All Star"? Yeah, no fucking shit. How about Sanchez is playing like a surefire first ballot Hall of Famer and one of the best catchers of all time. And please don't tell me how he's gonna come down to earth. Maybe he will and maybe he won't.

And whichever nitwit Tiger said this is a hot streak. No, you fucking moron, .327 with 17 home runs and an OPS of 1.100 across 6 weeks and more than a quarter of the season is a FUCKING PHENOMENON.

Before we all start exchanging hand jobs here...

http://www.tradingcarddb.co...

Come on baby, I thought you were better than raising the specter of old Kevin Maas. For many reasons, specially his ability to catch, and catch well, even if Sanchez loses 1/3 of his current value, he's STILL way more valuable than Maas. Who I liked, so no offense to him.

The point is that what Sanchez is doing now is historical and is not a mere hot streak, and to say he "could be an All Star" is such a ridiculously safe thing to say that it's rendered absolutely meaningless.

Maas also a dead pull hitter. Gary has shown power to all fields.

Time for a burrito to start the day right.

Axisa might need one. Where's our 9:30, MIKE?!??!?! ;)

Next year's AAA rotation should be killer.
Montgomery, Adams, Enns, Sheffield (2nd half).

If Enns is protected. Could include Lail also, and one of Cessa, Green, or Mitchell if they don't stick on the 25. Still a very good AAA rotation with all prospects.

Hoping Kaprelian makes it to the AZFL and does well.
It will be good to see him healthy having thus far avoided the knife.

agree. If he proves he is healthy, then with him, Adams and Montgomery to go along with Green, Cessa,, Mitchell and Severino, quite a young staff to potentially build assuming no big trade for a starter

There is not a ton of upside there. You can get enough bodies to fill out a ho-him rotation there, but I don't see how this org can say, "we're just going to rely on those guys" moving forward. No way.

Yes way,Jose

Fernandez? The haul needed there wouldn't be worth just having two years of him.

I agree that there's not a ton of upside outside of Adams, Sheffield, Severino and Kap...those four could be legitimate front of the rotation starters whereas Montgomery, Green, Cessa and Mitchell are likely 3, 4, 5 guys if they pan out.

Having said that, given the free agent market and the trickle down effect that its general sucktitude is going to have on the trade market for starters who represent a clear upgrade over what the Yankees currently have, I would probably just go with in-house options.

I'm choosing to be optimistic and say that Severino will bounce back and open the season as one of the Yankees 4 starters along with Pineda, Tanaka and Sabathia. I think you can get by with some mix of the other guys in that 5th spot for at least a couple of months. By then Adams and/or Sheffield, who should likely both open in AAA, may be ready to contribute.

Sheffield has only 1 start above Single A. He probably opens at AA and is not an option next year. Montgomery, Adams and Enns all have a chance to have some impact next year though. I do agree about going with the inhouse options though given the weak FA pitching market and the exhorbitant price of SP on the trade market. Cash is gonna have to get very creative this offseason.

I think he's going to look to do the same thing he's been doing - bring in guys who should be doing better than they are based on former prospect status or where they were picked in the draft.

Montgomery, Adams, and Enns are the three I'm counting on seeing.

I think we may be overstating the trade market right now. We have little way of knowing how things are going to shake out, who becomes available, etc.

I'm basing my pessimism on the fact that the Yankees got two pretty good prospects for 2 months of a sub-par pitcher. I shudder to think about what a full year of someone better than Ivan Nova will be worth.

I left Sheffield out of that, only because Posada_20 either didn't include him, or I just accidentally skimmed over his name. Yes, we should be very excited about Sheffield and, hell, let's add Ian Clarkin to that.

With Clarkin, although probably a bit unfair, at this point, I have the same trepidation with him that I now have with Kaprielian.

I'm not with you on Adams just yet. I want to see him to do this again, and over the course of an entire season in AAA.

Depends on how they develop. Mitchell missed most of the year so I give him a pass. Green, depends on if he can develop another pitch. Cessa needs better command of his secondary pitches. Gonna take time and patience but the potential is there

I don't see most of those names having more than, if you squint hard enough, back-end potential.

Severino and Kaps, obviously interest me, and in that order. I glad they're here. Montgomery, from a potential innings-eater perspective, interests me.

To me, though, this offseason has to be about starting pitching first and foremost.

Red Sox are going to win the division and be a favorite for the WS with a staff headlined by Porcello, crummy Price and scrubs..

I rather we keep focusing on position players in order to build a big time offense and ace relievers.. SP is just so volatile.

How they do things is irrelevant to me. Keys to the kingdom, baby.

I'd also wager that their starting pitching right now is much better than most of the best-case scenarios for the pitchers Posada_20 listed.

Yup.
Some vitamin fortification will be needed.

Yankees need to insist that guys master an OS pitch before being brought up to the bigs.
No more 2 pitch pitchers.
Unless they are slated to be RP's.

I think there is likely to be a trade but yeah.
We need front end types.
Sevy, Kaps, and maybe others have that potential at least.

Love the tidbits on Frazier, Mike. Sucks we didn't have Miller for that Boston series, but I think we'll be happier in the long run.

Frazier will rebound next year and be up midseason. Also, McKinney came on strong at the end and in the playoffs and should be at AAA next year. Future looks bright

rebound implies he's not doing well. he's 21 in AAA with like, 40 games.

Exactly. There not much to rebound from.

which implies ne will be much better next year with more experience there.

Our Farm system generally had a really good year.
Hoping for an even better one next season.

Tanaka has a really strong case for the CYA.
A few more good starts he might just get there.

Cant see him beating out Porcello or Happ

This is a really interesting argument b/t Tanaka and Porcello. I'm fine with Porcello getting it because of the wins and being on a division winner, but if you look at it as: where would their teams be without them? (which you wouldn't, this isn't the MVP) The Yankees may be under .500, where as some one else on the Red Sox staff gets that run support and the Sox are probably still in the race.

unless your ERA is 0.6 lower than the next, it doesn't matter.

In this instance the difference is just over .1

Only because he hasn't won as many games.
He compares favorably w either in other metrics.
Especially if he finishes strong.
But you are probably right.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/fea...

Historically this is usually not far off. He isn't even in the top 10.

After his last start, I don't think he is in the conversation anymore.

His last start, where he went 7 innings with just 1 run?
If anything that helped his case

Thanks to Joe.

So tonight he will pulled after 6 unless he has a no hitter and is under 90 pitches.

Binder

We love hyperbole now!

Sev for the 7th!

6 pitches last night.

Joe is excited!

Didn't he say he was tired after 93 pitches?

Porcello has 21 wins and a 3.08 ERA. Tanaka has 13 wins and a 2.97. Its not all about wins, but you would really have to make up for those wins somewhere.

Also, Happ won his 20th last night. Has been outstanding as well