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joetroyer2 • 8 years ago

Well I do not have all the rules of law. It is definitely awful and ugly. I am sure GW and Obama have committed war crimes. Going back to illegal wars, torture and the slaughter of 1000's of civilians. Maybe the better question is how much does the church need to own for our compliance in these atrocities? We have worshipped at the feet of safety and security. we stood quietly by or even vocally supported our govt acts of violence. How have we, the church, supported war crimes by our silence no matter our political party? That might be a better discussion in my opinion.

Berry Friesen • 8 years ago

Joe, of course we pay for it with our FIT. That's one obvious way we are complicit.

A second is our cheering for either a Republican or a Democrat for President every four years. At least since GW and Obama's first term, we know both major parties will use unlawful means (including war crimes) to achieve imperial goals.

Paul Krugman calls the US invasion of Irag "a crime" (NYT, May 18). IMO, what the US has done to the Lybian, Syrian and Ukrainian peoples are three more crimes of similar magnitude to the crime in Iraq. By "crime" I mean deliberate actions to cause widespread death and the destruction of civil society without any justifying claim of self-defense.

Increasingly, evidence suggests that even Daesh (AKA ISIS) fits the category of a US crime. Read the May 21 report in MoonOfAlabama dot org for details.

President Bush and President Obama should be put on trial for their crimes. Instead, most people I know continue to say that despite their many faults, our recent presidents have done the best they can to do good in a chaotic world. That is our point of greatest moral complicity with evil; we refuse to admit what a horror our nation has become.