Heh. Shitstorm.

*sniff*

I can smell it! Let's get out of here!

I'm right behind you.

Is that the new Burger King soft-serve dessert?

just the aftermath

Ayuh.

No, that's the McSplatters.

For me, it's a little from colon A, and a little from colon B.

Too soon for me, I have a colonoscopy in the next few weeks. Just another reminder to all you kids, don't get old.

Best nap I've had in years. That anesthesiologist for my colonoscopy was a virtuoso.

Also, you get a really nice buzz for about 10 seconds before you're out.

Thanks for the advice, old man!

*swallows entire bottle of pills*

*chokes to death*

Sometimes you don't have to get old. I had some colon related medical problems I won't go into, but spent a year in and out of hospitals hearing, "you're too young to have this" about 3000 times a day.

Sorry they made it weird.

Here come the comments about the comments about the comments about the comments about the comments about the comments.

Brace Yourself, Shitstorms coming

Everyone is saying "Shitstorm this" and "Shitstorm that." But no-one is saying "Worship this" and "Jericho that."

If only triggering thousands of survivors and contributing further to rape culture was all it took to change the minds of every apologist on earth!

But no, if he really has taken a lesson from that and had a change of heart and had it turn out to be a way to confront and work on his trauma, good on him I guess. What he said was REALLY awful, though.

ETA: Upon rereading the article a few times, nah, the guy sounds like a real prick and this "apology" sounds utterly insincere.

Has he apologized for being a horrible person?

It seemed like he more or less avoided an apology by simply offering a new opinion and segueing into his own past abuse. Maybe that's just me, though.

I don't like hamburgers, and anyone who says that they like hamburgers is a piece of shit and a fucking liar.

[a week later]

Actually hamburgers are pretty good. My dad used to make them.

on his podcast he apologized effusively and repeatedly while also trying to keep the nuance he was originally attempting to get across before - to paraphrase him- being an idiot and totally fucking it up

Well, he's kind of in the same position as Trimp. He has to play to his base, but he still needs to acknowledge the mainstream.

Tramp, Tremp, Trimp, Tromp, Trump, and sometimes Trymp.

What is a cross between a Chimp and The Donald? Ok, I will take Zoolitics for $400 Alex.

Screw nuance or trying to understand his position. The pile on is infinitely more fun. Kurt Metzger is an an irredeemably terrible person and I know that because reasons.

On the other hand, does someone who would make sweeping and hurtful assertions about probable victims based on very thin information really expect to get the benefit of the doubt about his own behavior? If there was ever a situation where you reap what you sow...

I saw a comedian I really like, Barry Crimmins, apparently called in to the podcast and I was contemplating listening, but then I saw Kurt Metzger on Twitter pretty much bragging about how many listens the new podcast would get and figured he could go fuck himself trying to turn all this controversy into new listeners.

He stood by his statement that people are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law or otherwise, but qualified it by saying that having spoken to several victims and the culprit himself that so far as he was personally concerned proof had been rendered.

It's reasonable enough. I experienced the same thing the night before he did his about face when I asked a friend associated with the UCB about it and she told me the guy was infamous.

Yeah, but you hate women.

Yeah, you got my number there. When my friend told me details about what she knew about the situation my first instinct was to disregard everything she told me because how can you trust something that bleeds out for days and doesn't die?

It is possible to look at these cases individually rather than dogmatically, you know. I quarreled with you and lots of other people on here about the Amber Heard thing and I still consider you a bunch of rubes for accepting her narrative.

But the other day when I belatedly found out what happened with Anthony Cumia - someone i've been a fan of for years - and the girlfriend he'd been terrorizing I accepted that he had become a despicable and pathetic person and probably has been for a long time.

And you're accepting the narrative that she bruised her own face for money that she promptly gave to charity. Lol.

That seven million pittance is nothing but a tax deduction, multiple witnesses attest that she looked just fine in the days following the alleged assault and if you think that someone isn't capable of light self-flagellation in pursuit of a net worth equivalent to the GDP of a small nation you are terribly naive. We've been over this I believe.

I like the fact that you've launched into such flailing, frothing fury that you can basically post a comment that says "the money was a pittance, but it was still SO MUCH money that it was worth faking abuse over!"

You know what, I didn't get laid in high school either. But at least I got over it.

She was originally seeking much much more.

But witnesses and photographic evidence contradicting her narrative, showing up late and intoxicated for court, fumbling her initial deposition and the specter of perjury all forced her to compromise.

Yes, she compromised so much she gave away every sent of the money she got! That's gonna be some tax deduction. And I like that through your psychic powers, you've divined that faking bruises was no weight on her conscience but the "specter of perjury" was a bridge too far for our villainess. But this is what I get for arguing with someone with "Bukowski" in their username.

Well, yeah. People go to prison for that you see.

And they don't go to prison for making false police reports?? Lol bye.

She was unlikely to be charged with that and wasn't.

But if she tried to put the state of California through the expense of a trial, things might have gone differently.

Thanks, Atticus!

No problem, Boo.

you can listen to it

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

as weak as his apology is it's even more frustrating that the other two hosts were completely trying to explain away what little apology he was trying to do.

To expand further, if he truly does take this to heart and stop saying awful things about rape, I'm impressed and I hold him no ill will, especially since he's a survivor of abuse himself. I'm wary because I have seen far too many men like this walk back their awful opinions about one victim once they hear the story but still hold terrible opinions about other accusers, because they've just become convinced that their acquaintance is "one of the good/real ones". Or seen people say "I've learned my lesson and I'm a better person now" but continue to contribute to toxic sexism and rape culture as soon as they feel people have forgotten.

Let's just say if he were my friend I would probably still consider the friendship over until he had truly proven himself trustworthy on this subject.

I'm sure I've harped on this before, but it's really hard for many men not to second-guess accusers. There's an instinct (for lack of a better word) to be paranoid about this topic, and it takes a lot of introspection and rational thought to get over it. But I feel like it can be done. Unfortunately, this guy's a "celebrity", and a professional performer, and we'll probably never know if he's for real or not.

It's not actually that hard.

It really isn't. I'm a dude. I was sexually abused as a child. This has, as you might expect, created some challenges. Respecting victims has never been one of them.

To be fair there have been quite a few high profile false rape allegations from Tawana Brawley to Kobe Bryant to the UVA debacle in the national media over the years. It seems we get one pretty reliably every 5 years or so.

....the lack of self-awareness is stunning.

How many real rapes do you think happened while those few reports "every five years or so" happened?